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President Commonwealth	Posted - 2010.01.12 02:18:00 - [1]
Hugo Lordmagnus Caldari Vexillari	Posted - 2010.01.12 02:29:00 - [2] Originally by: President Commonwealth Someone unplugged your mic.
President Commonwealth	Posted - 2010.01.12 02:42:00 - [3] Originally by: Hugo Lordmagnus Originally by: President Commonwealth Someone unplugged your mic. sorry when i hit enter in the tittle it actually created a post without anything in it. but i updated with the original though.
Hugo Lordmagnus Caldari Vexillari	Posted - 2010.01.12 03:02:00 - [4] Hehe, no worries; was just kiddin with ya. In regards to your post though, I've fallen head-first into the same kind of trap before. I lost a Raven not too long ago to a really clever trap. However, while I was **ed about losing the ship, I was more **ed at myself for falling into it. The guy who did it pulled off a good trick, and I lost the ship and learned a lesson. I know it's been said before, but EVE's tough--especially when you've got creative minds at the controls of your opposition. Nowhere in the EVE galaxy is safe. Play, learn, get even if you can.
President Commonwealth	Posted - 2010.01.12 03:41:00 - [5] Originally by: Hugo Lordmagnus Hehe, no worries; was just kiddin with ya. In regards to your post though, I've fallen head-first into the same kind of trap before. I lost a Raven not too long ago to a really clever trap. However, while I was **ed about losing the ship, I was more ed at myself for falling into it. The guy who did it pulled off a good trick, and I lost the ship and learned a lesson. I know it's been said before, but EVE's tough--especially when you've got creative minds at the controls of your opposition. Nowhere in the EVE galaxy is safe. Play, learn, get even if you can. i know what you mean. but the game dosnt allow you to get even like that. i think to get even it would be any ore thieft or can flippers or whatever litte discusting tricks they use to leave them falg for a month so they undock and you see them undocking and you have the opportunity to blow them off you can hunt them down . i am not saying they are the sor anything like that i am just saying they have the opportunity to grief. and i dont agree the game i paid tricked me into thinking i am in a safe enviroment when in fac** rewarded to grief. if i had fun doing things like that i think this would had been the game i play. it just needs people to think they are playing something you will actually have fun and it does a great job in desiving people into playing and then to get this kind of suprice specially if you playing hard and honest. anways it dosnt matter i think after all this is a free gameor i think it should be. if you going to have griefers i wouldnt care if its free. but when you pay and have this kind of results to loose your real money and time in this? no i will problably be mad for the next 3 days and forget i subscribe and let it to be cancel again. at least the 5 days was free i guess. but i have nothing to come back for.
Herschel Yamamoto Agent-Orange	Posted - 2010.01.12 04:21:00 - [6] Okay, three things. 1) The Enter key. 2) The Shift key. 3) You played Eve long enough to be flying a Golem, and you didn't know that if you shoot at someone they get the right to shoot back? You deserved to lose it. If you were in your nice new Vexor or Drake, I might feel pity, but a Golem pilot ought to know better. For that matter, you're flying a mission boat with utility highs and a tractor bonus - why was there anything left for them to steal? You have brought disgrace to carebears everywhere.
Ebeneser Scrooj	Posted - 2010.01.12 04:30:00 - [7] 1 thing. It's only the most obvious troll I've ever seen. OP: You don't even get 1/10. Weak as they come.
Mercenary Totenkopf 13Th Legion	Posted - 2010.01.12 05:08:00 - [8] i am just stating a fact in eve that make this possible. to be able to trick somebody that you are in a confort zone 0.9 and its allow to this guy to steal from me get taged fly away and he this with all the intention to ransom me and blow up my ship. my records should show i have never fought in pvp. no experience how it works. the guy got tagged with me he flew for 3 minutes without attacking i assumed that he was able to continue for those 3 minutes to steal from me becouse i didnt attack. in effect he left once i attack. no intention to blow him off i didnt care for a kill mail for a destroyer. if i knew what to do in that case when he left i would had finish salvage and left the area where he could had come back and not able to destroy my ship. ironic enough his corp is called yarr or something like that. i guess a pirate wannaby. so is safe to asume they like to grief. either way my proposal is to make a guide for pvp in the game not something you have to spend 2 hours to understand the mechanic and say eh it can be done. if they get taged should be a pop up saying for the next 15 minutes no matter where he is he can attack you if hyou attack him. that simple i lost my ship they lost my subscription threrethats behind but they could add that litte message in the future and i wouldnt call that griefing. laack of education in this game is my complain.
Drake Draconis Minmatar Shadow Cadre Looney Toons.	Posted - 2010.01.12 05:20:00 - [9] Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto Okay, three things. 1) The Enter key. 2) The Shift key. 3) You played Eve long enough to be flying a Golem, and you didn't know that if you shoot at someone they get the right to shoot back? You deserved to lose it. If you were in your nice new Vexor or Drake, I might feel pity, but a Golem pilot ought to know better. For that matter, you're flying a mission boat with utility highs and a tractor bonus - why was there anything left for them to steal? You have brought disgrace to carebears everywhere. THIS ========================= CEO of Shadow Cadre http://www.shadowcadre.com =========================
President Commonwealth	Posted - 2010.01.12 05:23:00 - [10] Originally by: Drake Draconis Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto Okay, three things. 1) The Enter key. 2) The Shift key. 3) You played Eve long enough to be flying a Golem, and you didn't know that if you shoot at someone they get the right to shoot back? You deserved to lose it. If you were in your nice new Vexor or Drake, I might feel pity, but a Golem pilot ought to know better. For that matter, you're flying a mission boat with utility highs and a tractor bonus - why was there anything left for them to steal? You have brought disgrace to carebears everywhere. THIS ok i dont understand what shift and enter does? and yes i did got a golem after 3 months of grinding missions not pirating for ransom or doing pvp. the pvp of the eve element is just perfect for 0.5 i assume becouse thats is what the game tells you that you leaving secure area. but in 0.9 there is no warning. well anyways i hope the points goes trhu and they put this warning hey you getting stealed dont defend yourself becouse they just want to tag you back and blow you for ransomson.period.

Drake Draconis Minmatar Shadow Cadre Looney Toons.	Posted - 2010.01.12 05:46:00 - [11] You mean to tell me that you've played through the game long enough to get a golem and you have no concept or understanding of combat mechanics? And you also claim to now understand the Shift Key and the Enter Key on your own keyboard? Ok... this is a troll... yep... definitely a troll. ========================= CEO of Shadow Cadre http://www.shadowcadre.com =========================
President Commonwealth	Posted - 2010.01.12 06:09:00 - [12] Originally by: Drake Draconis You mean to tell me that you've played through the game long enough to get a golem and you have no concept or understanding of combat mechanics? And you also claim to now understand the Shift Key and the Enter Key on your own keyboard? Ok... this is a troll... yep... definitely a troll. i am the victim and you guys call me a troll? oh well. my main language is not english. making fun of me dosnt get anywhere. shift and enter you guys problably means that i dont capitalise after periods and dont hit enter. if thats it . then it dosnt have anything to do with the issue. an yes i have not played pvp all my life in eve. the game you can train without playing it when i got the golem was the pinacle of my money. if i strive to build money i would problably invested in the tengu wich i can fly but dont have the money or a carrier but dont have the money. the game lets you advance without actually playing the game. i didnt know it was a sin not to log in everyday and not play pvp.i dont spect my ship back. hopefully my money i spend in the subscription would be nice but that will not happent. but if they add some features to the game so things like this dosnt happent is all i ask. any other comments not related directly to stop griefers i will ignore becouse dosnt make any sense.
Mrrilas Tiamath	Posted - 2010.01.12 06:17:00 - [13] Originally by: President Commonwealth i am the victim and you guys call me a troll? oh well. my main language is not english. making fun of me dosnt get anywhere. shift and enter you guys problably means that i dont capitalise after periods and dont hit enter. if thats it . then it dosnt have anything to do with the issue. an yes i have not played pvp all my life in eve. the game you can train without playing it when i got the golem was the pinacle of my money. if i strive to build money i would problably invested in the tengu wich i can fly but dont have the money or a carrier but dont have the money. the game lets you advance without actually playing the game. i didnt know it was a sin not to log in everyday and not play pvp.i dont spect my ship back. hopefully my money i spend in the subscription would be nice but that will not happent. but if they add some features to the game so things like this dosnt happent is all i ask. any other comments not related directly to stop griefers i will ignore becouse dosnt make any sense. They are referring to the fact that your post is one giant wall of text with no paragraph structure (the enter key) and no capitalization (the shift key). It is not unreadable that way but you are asking people to do extra work to read a post that is essentially you whining that you haven't learned anything about the game in three months. If you alienate people before you even present your argument, you aren't going to get a positive response.
Drake Draconis Minmatar Shadow Cadre Looney Toons.	Posted - 2010.01.12 06:21:00 - [14] Originally by: Mrrilas Tiamath Originally by: President Commonwealth snip They are referring to the fact that your post is one giant wall of text with no paragraph structure (the enter key) and no capitalization (the shift key). It is not unreadable that way but you are asking people to do extra work to read a post that is essentially you whining that you haven't learned anything about the game in three months. If you alienate people before you even present your argument, you aren't going to get a positive response. You left out the bit about flying a Golem... ========================= CEO of Shadow Cadre http://www.shadowcadre.com =========================
President Commonwealth	Posted - 2010.01.12 06:25:00 - [15] Originally by: Mrrilas Tiamath Originally by: President Commonwealth i am the victim and you guys call me a troll? oh well. my main language is not english. making fun of me dosnt get anywhere. shift and enter you guys problably means that i dont capitalise after periods and dont hit enter. if thats it . then it dosnt have anything to do with the issue. an yes i have not played pvp all my life in eve. the game you can train without playing it when i got the golem was the pinacle of my money. if i strive to build money i would problably invested in the tengu wich i can fly but dont have the money or a carrier but dont have the money. the game lets you advance without actually playing the game. i didnt know it was a sin not to log in everyday and not play pvp.i dont spect my ship back. hopefully my money i spend in the subscription would be nice but that will not happent. but if they add some features to the game so things like this dosnt happent is all i ask. any other comments not related directly to stop griefers i will ignore becouse dosnt make any sense. They are referring to the fact that your post is one giant wall of text with no paragraph structure (the enter key) and no capitalization (the shift key). It is not unreadable that way but you are asking people to do extra work to read a post that is essentially you whining that you haven't learned anything about the game in three months. If you alienate people before you even present your argument, you aren't going to get a positive response. ah. i understand. is no biggy. is just a game that can be improve or not.
Herschel Yamamoto Agent-Orange	Posted - 2010.01.12 06:35:00 - [16] Originally by: President Commonwealth ah. i understand. is no biggy. is just a game that can be improve or not. Most people who play Eve wouldn't consider it an improvement. You undocked, you agreed to the possibility of losing your stuff. I couldn't unravel whether you actually had a proposal, or what it was if you did, from that wall of text, but I'd imagine that any proposal you have would utterly destroy what most Eve players think is something that makes the game what it is. If you want a game where griefing is looked down upon, there's plenty on the market. Eve is a game where you're expected to be able to take care of yourself - either learn to do so better(and we will help with that, if you want it - the game may be cruel, but the players aren't generally), or decide that you can't and walk away.
President Commonwealth	Posted - 2010.01.12 06:45:00 - [17] Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto Originally by: President Commonwealth ah. i understand. is no biggy. is just a game that can be improve or not. Most people who play Eve wouldn't consider it an improvement. You undocked, you agreed to the possibility of losing your stuff. I couldn't unravel whether you actually had a proposal, or what it was if you did, from that wall of text, but I'd imagine that any proposal you have would utterly destroy what most Eve players think is something that makes the game what it is. If you want a game where griefing is looked down upon, there's plenty on the market. Eve is a game where you're expected to be able to take care of yourself - either learn to do so better(and we will help with that, if you want it - the game may be cruel, but the players aren't generally), or decide that you can't and walk away. actually you are right. now that i think about it. is the freedom to do anything you like in this game even the danger to encounter pirates. but then i again i was in a safe sector. 0.9 where the police is around i think if someone steals the police will come and get you but then again it wouldnt be fun for everybody. just a small warning should be great when pvp is about to engage is all i was thinking about. but i think after a shower and looking back to the game i feel like i was just grinding for money to buy better modules now i think have the opportunity to sit back and rethink what i would like to do next if i decide to play eve. thx guys for the ones were diplomatic enought to make the posting constructive.
Herschel Yamamoto Agent-Orange	Posted - 2010.01.12 07:38:00 - [18] Originally by: President Commonwealth actually you are right. now that i think about it. is the freedom to do anything you like in this game even the danger to encounter pirates. but then i again i was in a safe sector. 0.9 where the police is around i think if someone steals the police will come and get you but then again it wouldnt be fun for everybody. just a small warning should be great when pvp is about to engage is all i was thinking about. but i think after a shower and looking back to the game i feel like i was just grinding for money to buy better modules now i think have the opportunity to sit back and rethink what i would like to do next if i decide to play eve. thx guys for the ones were diplomatic enought to make the posting constructive. If all you want is better notifications, I don't think anyone will argue very strongly against you. Making sure that people have some way of knowing what they're getting into is important. You seemed to be asking for game mechanic changes, which is why we all jumped down your throat.
President Commonwealth	Posted - 2010.01.12 09:09:00 - [19] Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto Originally by: President Commonwealth actually you are right. now that i think about it. is the freedom to do anything you like in this game even the danger to encounter pirates. but then i again i was in a safe sector. 0.9 where the police is around i think if someone steals the police will come and get you but then again it wouldnt be fun for everybody. just a small warning should be great when pvp is about to engage is all i was thinking about. but i think after a shower and looking back to the game i feel like i was just grinding for money to buy better modules now i think have the opportunity to sit back and rethink what i would like to do next if i decide to play eve. thx guys for the ones were diplomatic enought to make the posting constructive. If all you want is better notifications, I don't think anyone will argue very strongly against you. Making sure that people have some way of knowing what they're getting into is important. You seemed to be asking for game mechanic changes, which is why we all jumped down your throat. i am sorry i think i feel i need a translator sometimes. i try my best to express myself. yes the idea is better notification to understand what i get into.specially if i am about to loose a pve ship my golem to a educated pvp player.i think i will subscribe to eve i am installing again the game. problably this time around i will be a miner. hoepfully there is not a big a surprice again.
PaulTheWise	Posted - 2010.01.12 13:15:00 - [20] Please, use the enter key, it's there for a reason ;) And, as a miner, depending on where you are, you will also encounter can flippers. Are you sure you want to attack them using the few medium drones in your paper thin Retriever? Carebear-EVE has 1 rule in large friendly letters: Don't engage in PvP in your PvE- or mining ship. You should know that by now :) The Golum was driving the message home hard, but you'll probably don't forget it now :)

Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2010.01.12 14:23:00 - [21] Originally by: President Commonwealth i think i will subscribe to eve i am installing again the game. problably this time around i will be a miner. hoepfully there is not a big a surprice again. Obvious troll is increasingly obvious.
Luminus Mallus	Posted - 2010.01.12 15:55:00 - [22] Edited by: Luminus Mallus on 12/01/2010 15:56:45 Commonwealth, let me tell you that you're being called a "troll", but in all honesty I haven't read a reply that's coherent or simply intelligent, to your original post, which by the way only an imbecile would not understand correctly, even if it's not correctly puntuated or in perfect english. In instead understand your point perfectly, since I too believe that if you like PVE, and every player has a right to enjoy it above all else, you shouldn't be shafted for it, just because. I already posted around about this, since we PVE players (called carebears) are the joke of many of the mongoloids that frequent the forums: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1249409&page=1#7 In simple words, I propose that deadspace pockets (pve rooms) become bookmarkable, since now you can't warp out and warp in without passing all the gates. When you see one of these griefers, you warp out and let them deal with the mob aggro. And then you warp back in when you believe it most suitable, this time, without the loss of time of going through all the gates. This way, you could quickly refit for PVP, get back into the action quickly, and duke it out with the looter, if you prefer. As of now, instead, you're only going to be shafted. Check the original post out: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1246777
President Commonwealth	Posted - 2010.01.14 07:11:00 - [23] Originally by: Luminus Mallus Edited by: Luminus Mallus on 12/01/2010 18:08:43 Commonwealth, let me tell you that you're being called a "troll", but in all honesty I haven't read a reply that's coherent or simply intelligent, to your original post, which by the way only an imbecile would not understand correctly, even if it's not correctly puntuated or in perfect english. In instead understand your point perfectly, since I too believe that if you like PVE, and every player has a right to enjoy it above all else, you shouldn't be shafted for it, just because. I already posted around about this, since we PVE players (called carebears) are the joke of some mongoloids that frequent the forums: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1249409&page=1#7 In simple words, I propose that deadspace pockets (pve rooms) become bookmarkable, since now you can't warp out and warp in without passing all the gates. When you see one of these griefers, you warp out and let them deal with the mob aggro. And then you warp back in when you believe it most suitable, this time, without the loss of time of going through all the gates. This way, you could quickly refit for PVP, get back into the action quickly, and duke it out with the looter, if you prefer. As of now, instead, you're only going to be shafted. Check the original post out: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1246777 my experience continues. after logging in to mine and ask some questions about mining. becouse i actually i did mine just a litte bit in my eve life. i have encounter that there is some players that have so much money they just go to high security and attack miners just waiting for them to blow up even if concord attack them. i cant open for some reason the links you put in your post it says error something. i want PVE action please specially if it shouws 10 BS agains me it was fun until i got blow up. i feel forced to PVP i feel like i need to learn some skills that dosnt give me no money at all. i find it a waste of time the pvp becouse you attack and loose your ship or they loose theyrs. i think that is why the miner got the best deal becouse that way they just provide the material for them to blow up each other. hehehe. sorry for my broken english.
Drake Draconis Minmatar Shadow Cadre Looney Toons.	Posted - 2010.01.14 16:06:00 - [24] You've experienced what is known as hulkageddon or suicide ganking... which is rampant. For some damn reason they think the cause of "inflation" (laughs) is due to high mineral prices.. never mind the main issue is/are prices are crashing these days (IE: trit). The solution to mining is you don't mine in and around main hubs... go find a system 5 to 10 jumps out.... some quiet dead end system where mission runners are few and between and gankers cant be arsed into coming out to find you unless you really upset them. An alternative is to move to WHS or 0.0... where the odds are balanced out and you have an alliance or good sized corp to back you up. Which is where I mine now. :) ========================= CEO of Shadow Cadre http://www.shadowcadre.com =========================
AnonyTerrorNinja Minmatar Buggers' Advanced Interstellar Transport	Posted - 2010.01.14 16:42:00 - [25] Edited by: AnonyTerrorNinja on 14/01/2010 16:47:36 Can someone repost this on somewhere like pastebin in a format that won't make my head explode when I try to read it? :( From the bits I could get read out of it... 1. Op got stolen from 2. Op shot at the person that stole from him 3. Person shot back, killed Op's 1bil+ ship 4. Op decided there was something wrong with this and that person shouldn't have been allowed to shoot back 5. Op came to walloftextattack the Assembly Hall forums with what I'm guessing is a proposal to have it that if someone gets shot at after they steal from you, CONCORD comes to tackle and perjam+neut them for you so you can pick away at them at your leisure Does this sum it up? edit wow, op's original post completely broke me for a moment there... ---
President Commonwealth	Posted - 2010.01.19 09:30:00 - [26] Originally by: AnonyTerrorNinja Edited by: AnonyTerrorNinja on 14/01/2010 16:47:36 Can someone repost this on somewhere like pastebin in a format that won't make my head explode when I try to read it? :( From the bits I could get read out of it... 1. Op got stolen from 2. Op shot at the person that stole from him 3. Person shot back, killed Op's 1bil+ ship 4. Op decided there was something wrong with this and that person shouldn't have been allowed to shoot back 5. Op came to walloftextattack the Assembly Hall forums with what I'm guessing is a proposal to have it that if someone gets shot at after they steal from you, CONCORD comes to tackle and perjam+neut them for you so you can pick away at them at your leisure Does this sum it up? edit wow, op's original post completely broke me for a moment there... no your name sums it up. terrorist in high space pretty much. if you dont want to read it, dont read it. thank youhave a pleasant day
AnonyTerrorNinja Minmatar Buggers' Advanced Interstellar Transport	Posted - 2010.01.19 10:20:00 - [27] 9. a state in which the supreme power is held by the people; a republican or democratic state. From dictionary.com's definition of 'commonwealth'. Y'know, while we're assuming peoples' names have anything to do with the way they play EVE. Though, I don't deny being a big ol' meaniehead in empire to those who shoot before they think. ---


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