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Scatim Helicon
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.13 11:15:00 -
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I am putting on my robe and wizard's hat
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Equinox Daedalus
Caldari The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.13 12:22:00 -
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Edited by: Equinox Daedalus on 13/01/2010 12:22:49 I believe I made CVA's position clear in an earlier post.
While I know some goons and some -a-, as well as several other people on both sides of the fight I can say that we wouldn't chose the lesser of two evils on any side. The only choice between the GooN's and IT sides is simply the amarrian side. I suppose Providence is at fault in never getting caught up in those 2 agendas and indeed following its own.
At the end of the day we make our own path, for the Amarrian Empire. We have the majority of both sides of the conflict marked as hostile and respond with force whenever needed, but that doesn't mean we don't seize strategic posiblities on the fly either.
Indeed over the long life of cva, there have been times we have been civil with -a-, even working with them back when they called IAC allies instead of enimies. Thou often times Short lived, it does seem that thru all of the ebbs and flow of life, little has changed in providence.
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Neena Valdi
Gallente The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.01.13 12:28:00 -
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Originally by: skularika Lets see:
- goons kissing CVA ass'es becouse they wanna try and escape anihilation - check - goons are so desperate that NC left them to die that dont even post on forums - check
Lets say CVA help them :
- IT/AAA/southers allies kill goons and send them to jita no matter what - CVA will be next on theyr list becouse they helped goons - CVA will allways be remembered a goon pet for ever (like PL is)
AAA is little smarter than that.
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Brummbull
Gallente Old Timers Guild Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2010.01.13 17:53:00 -
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wow, slimy your already out of UK? That didnt take long for them to relize who you are...
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Crispy Turtle
Minmatar Trigrams Edge
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Posted - 2010.01.13 18:07:00 -
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Theres more of a chance of IT working with Goons than CVA
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Antarans
Caldari Exile Consortium
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Posted - 2010.01.14 02:00:00 -
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As this post started as a troll, im amused how much talk has this got. As a former CVA I know that was only a tactical movement for just get some capital kills. We have seen it before, we will see it later on (on any alliance not blue each other tbh). At the end of the day, CVA is just securing amarrian laws around domain and providence. Some Catch/south skirmishes are just a way for telling our roaming neighbors that we can do it also. Just relax, get your political map off and enjoy the blobs and roams.
You gotta put those isk somewhere dont you?
for you: Centurion Antarans (= |
Slimy Worm
Amarr Vivicide Vivisection.
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Posted - 2010.01.15 09:58:00 -
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Originally by: Brummbull wow, slimy your already out of UK? That didnt take long for them to relize who you are...
No, I left because I got sick of blobbing. I like frigates and assault frigates. I also like nrds, and U'K is nbsi in most areas. Nothing against Ushra'Khan, but it wasn't my cup of tea.
Originally by: Equinox Daedalus Edited by: Equinox Daedalus on 13/01/2010 12:22:49 I believe I made CVA's position clear in an earlier post.
While I know some goons and some -a-, as well as several other people on both sides of the fight I can say that we wouldn't chose the lesser of two evils on any side. The only choice between the GooN's and IT sides is simply the amarrian side. I suppose Providence is at fault in never getting caught up in those 2 agendas and indeed following its own.
At the end of the day we make our own path, for the Amarrian Empire. We have the majority of both sides of the conflict marked as hostile and respond with force whenever needed, but that doesn't mean we don't seize strategic posiblities on the fly either.
Indeed over the long life of cva, there have been times we have been civil with -a-, even working with them back when they called IAC allies instead of enimies. Thou often times Short lived, it does seem that thru all of the ebbs and flow of life, little has changed in providence.
Thanks. I think I have a grasp on it now.
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Tierie
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.15 10:38:00 -
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Edited by: Tierie on 15/01/2010 10:39:05
Originally by: Dsan89 Edited by: Dsan89 on 12/01/2010 10:57:01
Originally by: Petar Quaresma The truth is we are currently blue with CVA and no fighting will commence between us until January 28th at midnight eastern US time. We currently have planned a two pronged invasion of our enemies space. The goons and ZAF will approach through Period Basis. Meanwhile, CVA and allies will take HED and FAT.
As a fleet commander of Goonfleet I am on temporary loan to assist the Providence alliances in combat against the barbarian hordes of AAA. If you require further information please ask.
Amarr victor.
P.Quaresma
why aren't you supporting CVA right now then ? recent news is that for the first time CVA is seing hostile caps on the field. and CVA is already outnumbered.
this must be one of those proofs that goons don't give a **** about CVA...
come on dude, get a clue. we're all busy ratting.
and i dunno, i hear CVA were giving out blue standings for alcohol tokens at fanfest.
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666Devious
Amarr Sinister Elite
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Posted - 2010.01.15 10:55:00 -
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Originally by: Equinox Daedalus Edited by: Equinox Daedalus on 13/01/2010 12:22:49 I believe I made CVA's position clear in an earlier post.
While I know some goons and some -a-, as well as several other people on both sides of the fight I can say that we wouldn't chose the lesser of two evils on any side. The only choice between the GooN's and IT sides is simply the amarrian side. I suppose Providence is at fault in never getting caught up in those 2 agendas and indeed following its own.
At the end of the day we make our own path, for the Amarrian Empire. We have the majority of both sides of the conflict marked as hostile and respond with force whenever needed, but that doesn't mean we don't seize strategic posiblities on the fly either.
Indeed over the long life of cva, there have been times we have been civil with -a-, even working with them back when they called IAC allies instead of enimies. Thou often times Short lived, it does seem that thru all of the ebbs and flow of life, little has changed in providence.
So funny you say this, I recall Aralis himself ordering people within the Cit channel not to engage an True Sansha goon tower around this time last year. You care to dispute that Equinox Daedalus?
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Dunn Idaho
Caldari Core Impulse
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Posted - 2010.01.18 02:13:00 -
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Originally by: 666Devious
Originally by: Equinox Daedalus Edited by: Equinox Daedalus on 13/01/2010 12:22:49 I believe I made CVA's position clear in an earlier post.
While I know some goons and some -a-, as well as several other people on both sides of the fight I can say that we wouldn't chose the lesser of two evils on any side. The only choice between the GooN's and IT sides is simply the amarrian side. I suppose Providence is at fault in never getting caught up in those 2 agendas and indeed following its own.
At the end of the day we make our own path, for the Amarrian Empire. We have the majority of both sides of the conflict marked as hostile and respond with force whenever needed, but that doesn't mean we don't seize strategic posiblities on the fly either.
Indeed over the long life of cva, there have been times we have been civil with -a-, even working with them back when they called IAC allies instead of enimies. Thou often times Short lived, it does seem that thru all of the ebbs and flow of life, little has changed in providence.
So funny you say this, I recall Aralis himself ordering people within the Cit channel not to engage an True Sansha goon tower around this time last year. You care to dispute that Equinox Daedalus?
You talking about that one goon tower in Yong ? Its dead now though |
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Wildcard Trek
Caldari Celestial Janissaries Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.18 09:48:00 -
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Originally by: 666Devious
Originally by: Equinox Daedalus Edited by: Equinox Daedalus on 13/01/2010 12:22:49 I believe I made CVA's position clear in an earlier post.
While I know some goons and some -a-, as well as several other people on both sides of the fight I can say that we wouldn't chose the lesser of two evils on any side. The only choice between the GooN's and IT sides is simply the amarrian side. I suppose Providence is at fault in never getting caught up in those 2 agendas and indeed following its own.
At the end of the day we make our own path, for the Amarrian Empire. We have the majority of both sides of the conflict marked as hostile and respond with force whenever needed, but that doesn't mean we don't seize strategic posiblities on the fly either.
Indeed over the long life of cva, there have been times we have been civil with -a-, even working with them back when they called IAC allies instead of enimies. Thou often times Short lived, it does seem that thru all of the ebbs and flow of life, little has changed in providence.
So funny you say this, I recall Aralis himself ordering people within the Cit channel not to engage an True Sansha goon tower around this time last year. You care to dispute that Equinox Daedalus?
I am not Equinox Traitor Terrorist but I can confirm that we left the Goons POS alone, along with G-A I think it was or maybe ZQ, I cant remember exactly, they had a JB POS there and some deal with Sylph, so Sylph being our Allies asked us to not do anything about it or something along those lines I dont know the exact details.
But I have to say out of all of our KOS listed target of hostile entities that visit Providence Goons and Morsus Mihi are probably the only Alliances in New Eden that dont actively come to Providence to pad their Killboards with newer pod pilot ratters when they take a serious beating somewhere else in New Eden.
So yes it can be said that in my opinion they are given a lower target priority than lets say you who visit sometimes often. But that does not mean if a number of them showed up to roam our space we would blindly turn the other cheek, they would be hunted down and killed like any other KOS list member.
I think Equinox's post basically says all that needs to be said.
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666Devious
Amarr Sinister Elite
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Posted - 2010.01.18 10:59:00 -
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Originally by: Wildcard Trek
Originally by: 666Devious
Originally by: Equinox Daedalus Edited by: Equinox Daedalus on 13/01/2010 12:22:49 I believe I made CVA's position clear in an earlier post.
While I know some goons and some -a-, as well as several other people on both sides of the fight I can say that we wouldn't chose the lesser of two evils on any side. The only choice between the GooN's and IT sides is simply the amarrian side. I suppose Providence is at fault in never getting caught up in those 2 agendas and indeed following its own.
At the end of the day we make our own path, for the Amarrian Empire. We have the majority of both sides of the conflict marked as hostile and respond with force whenever needed, but that doesn't mean we don't seize strategic posiblities on the fly either.
Indeed over the long life of cva, there have been times we have been civil with -a-, even working with them back when they called IAC allies instead of enimies. Thou often times Short lived, it does seem that thru all of the ebbs and flow of life, little has changed in providence.
So funny you say this, I recall Aralis himself ordering people within the Cit channel not to engage an True Sansha goon tower around this time last year. You care to dispute that Equinox Daedalus?
I am not Equinox Traitor Terrorist but I can confirm that we left the Goons POS alone, along with G-A I think it was or maybe ZQ, I cant remember exactly, they had a JB POS there and some deal with Sylph, so Sylph being our Allies asked us to not do anything about it or something along those lines I dont know the exact details.
But I have to say out of all of our KOS listed target of hostile entities that visit Providence Goons and Morsus Mihi are probably the only Alliances in New Eden that dont actively come to Providence to pad their Killboards with newer pod pilot ratters when they take a serious beating somewhere else in New Eden.
So yes it can be said that in my opinion they are given a lower target priority than lets say you who visit sometimes often. But that does not mean if a number of them showed up to roam our space we would blindly turn the other cheek, they would be hunted down and killed like any other KOS list member.
I think Equinox's post basically says all that needs to be said.
oh and you forgot red army alliance
Also isn't dealing with members on the KOS list get you set KOS your self?
comments?
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Wildcard Trek
Caldari Celestial Janissaries Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.18 22:29:00 -
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Originally by: 666Devious
Originally by: Wildcard Trek
Originally by: 666Devious
Originally by: Equinox Daedalus Edited by: Equinox Daedalus on 13/01/2010 12:22:49 I believe I made CVA's position clear in an earlier post.
While I know some goons and some -a-, as well as several other people on both sides of the fight I can say that we wouldn't chose the lesser of two evils on any side. The only choice between the GooN's and IT sides is simply the amarrian side. I suppose Providence is at fault in never getting caught up in those 2 agendas and indeed following its own.
At the end of the day we make our own path, for the Amarrian Empire. We have the majority of both sides of the conflict marked as hostile and respond with force whenever needed, but that doesn't mean we don't seize strategic posiblities on the fly either.
Indeed over the long life of cva, there have been times we have been civil with -a-, even working with them back when they called IAC allies instead of enimies. Thou often times Short lived, it does seem that thru all of the ebbs and flow of life, little has changed in providence.
So funny you say this, I recall Aralis himself ordering people within the Cit channel not to engage an True Sansha goon tower around this time last year. You care to dispute that Equinox Daedalus?
I am not Equinox Traitor Terrorist but I can confirm that we left the Goons POS alone, along with G-A I think it was or maybe ZQ, I cant remember exactly, they had a JB POS there and some deal with Sylph, so Sylph being our Allies asked us to not do anything about it or something along those lines I dont know the exact details.
But I have to say out of all of our KOS listed target of hostile entities that visit Providence Goons and Morsus Mihi are probably the only Alliances in New Eden that dont actively come to Providence to pad their Killboards with newer pod pilot ratters when they take a serious beating somewhere else in New Eden.
So yes it can be said that in my opinion they are given a lower target priority than lets say you who visit sometimes often. But that does not mean if a number of them showed up to roam our space we would blindly turn the other cheek, they would be hunted down and killed like any other KOS list member.
I think Equinox's post basically says all that needs to be said.
oh and you forgot red army alliance
Also isn't dealing with members on the KOS list get you set KOS your self?
comments?
Red Army Alliance always operated NRDS by the official CVA KOS list, and therefore were and are still if I am not mistaken in Providence. Just because one organization is friendly with another does not mean auto KOS.
If you want to avail yourself of Amarrian Providence and while there obey Amarrain Law then your welcome to come and visit, live, and stay at your leisure. Red Army Alliance did just that, and they may still, I dont know have never seen many of them around, and the ones I did were quite nice guys to talk with.
And I think you already know about the other Devious, It is quite obvious they were an alt corporation of a known hostile, using neutral status to evade Amarrian Law, which we found out about. The CVA and Allies do not dictate who you may or may not be friendly with, but the KOS list is there as a tool for peaceful pod pilots to use to see who would do them harm. If people wish to form gangs and hunt undesireables in Providence they are welcome to do so, but not forced to do so in any way.
I still think you and I are on friendly terms, even though you went traitor terrorist on me. Just because your on the wrong side of the fence does not mean we cant still be sociable. And the same applies to any other entity.
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Leviathan Tank
Caldari The Order of Odin
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Posted - 2010.01.19 00:49:00 -
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Goons ARE slaves.. eh
mwa
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MushskiC
Caldari m3 Corp Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2010.01.19 20:04:00 -
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Originally by: Slimy Worm
Originally by: Brummbull wow, slimy your already out of UK? That didnt take long for them to relize who you are...
No, I left because I got sick of blobbing. I like frigates and assault frigates. I also like nrds, and U'K is nbsi in most areas. Nothing against Ushra'Khan, but it wasn't my cup of tea.
That's interesting...
Originally by: Xious Ushra'Khan is NRDS in every region (high, low and null) bar Catch and Providence.
And that quote is from the 6th, so 13 days ago, 9 days before your quote.
And oh wait, I think that means U'K are NRDS is most areas. Slimy = liessssss.
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Freiherr vonRichthofen
Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.19 22:58:00 -
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Edited by: Freiherr vonRichthofen on 19/01/2010 23:00:36 It's good to see that Mr Vee's cultural exchange program is proving effective We hope the skills learned can be beneficial in ensuring the Amarr Victory.
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karttoon
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.19 23:08:00 -
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Edited by: karttoon on 19/01/2010 23:13:53
Originally by: Freiherr vonRichthofen Edited by: Freiherr vonRichthofen on 19/01/2010 23:00:36 It's good to see that Mr Vee's cultural exchange program is proving effective We hope the skills learned can be beneficial in ensuring the Amarr Victory.
CVA can role play as elite German bomber pilots and join GoonWaffe.
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Psilocin
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.19 23:39:00 -
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I, too, like owning slaves
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Equinox Daedalus
Caldari The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.20 14:24:00 -
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Originally by: 666Devious
Originally by: Equinox Daedalus Edited by: Equinox Daedalus on 13/01/2010 12:22:49 I believe I made CVA's position clear in an earlier post.
While I know some goons and some -a-, as well as several other people on both sides of the fight I can say that we wouldn't chose the lesser of two evils on any side. The only choice between the GooN's and IT sides is simply the amarrian side. I suppose Providence is at fault in never getting caught up in those 2 agendas and indeed following its own.
At the end of the day we make our own path, for the Amarrian Empire. We have the majority of both sides of the conflict marked as hostile and respond with force whenever needed, but that doesn't mean we don't seize strategic posiblities on the fly either.
Indeed over the long life of cva, there have been times we have been civil with -a-, even working with them back when they called IAC allies instead of enimies. Thou often times Short lived, it does seem that thru all of the ebbs and flow of life, little has changed in providence.
So funny you say this, I recall Aralis himself ordering people within the Cit channel not to engage an True Sansha goon tower around this time last year. You care to dispute that Equinox Daedalus?
Actually it was before BoB was disbanded. Goons lived in the south and had a jb/cyno network through catch to their home. I believe there was/is a video out there where they say goodbye before moving on.
CVA has never said Not to shoot anyone on our reds list unless it was to aid our allies or after a negotiated standings change and they were removed.
We did clearly say to people that it was thier choice to shoot the pos if they felt like it, but cva didn't deem it a high value reward for the effort that would come from it. Goons were not using the pos to base hostile assaults from the area, and while there may have been plans ongoing to interdict the multiple freighter drops that came past that pos, at the end of the day goons left before we felt the need to drive overwhelming force upon them. If anyone wanted to shoot the pos they were free to shoot it, long as they were able to handle the goon invasion of yong when it came out of reinforced.
While you have your own motivations for crying here, CVA's main motivation is the safety and security of Lower Domain, Providence, The parts of Catch we patrol, and the derelik region 1st and foremost.
however some cyno travel tower isn't high up on the priority list.
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The Mittani
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.20 17:35:00 -
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realpolitik is a *****, suck it up
Sins of a Solar Spymaster: my ~fair and balanced~ column TheMittani @ Twitter
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