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          Slimy Worm 
          Amarr Vivicide Vivisection.
  
          
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        Posted - 2010.01.12 09:33:00 -
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          My impression is that a few days ago, a Goon fleet and a CVA fleet engaged each other in Against All Authorities space, but then quit fighting each other when Ushra'Khan/AAA titans entered, and instead combined forces to take out the titans.
  Since they both have common enemies and are engaged in serious wars, does anybody know if they are still cooperating in any way?
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          Butter Dog 
          Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
  
          
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        Posted - 2010.01.12 09:34:00 -
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          insightful - you should work for the ISD ----------
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          Slimy Worm 
          Amarr Vivicide Vivisection.
  
          
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        Posted - 2010.01.12 09:46:00 -
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            Originally by: Butter Dog insightful - you should work for the ISD
 
 
  So my friends in a roleplay AAA pet alliance that shall go unnamed were completely wrong about the titan engagement? There was no CVA-Goon cooperation? Was there even a titan engagement?
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          Dsan89 
          Minmatar Smegnet Corp
  
          
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        Posted - 2010.01.12 09:51:00 -
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            Originally by: Slimy Worm My impression is that a few days ago, a Goon fleet and a CVA fleet engaged each other in Against All Authorities space, but then quit fighting each other when Ushra'Khan/AAA titans entered, and instead combined forces to take out the titans.
  Since they both have common enemies and are engaged in serious wars, does anybody know if they are still cooperating in any way?
 
 
  there has never been an agreement or alliance between goons and any providence holders doring these fights. 
  Providence is having a skirmish, trying to take a few unclaimed systems. goons are fighting seriously against -A-
  for some reason I doubt -A- has brought their "a game" against the holders, as long as they can keep loses at a minimum and still keep the sov challenged they might be satisfied.
  you seem to have fallen for a goonswarm scam, since your are under the influence that Goons and CVA has made a deal, goons have a tendency to exploit situations like this, when people start wondering if there might be something going on, they confirm it. even if it's not true. just take a look at the 80 carriers u'k should have killed. it also turns out to be a goons stunt. 
  Providence is not working with Goons
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          Butter Dog 
          Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
  
          
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        Posted - 2010.01.12 09:53:00 -
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          isn't it funny/sad that "you should work for the ISD" is a universally recognised assault on ones writing and fact-gathering ability ----------
  ~bitter dog~
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          Petar Quaresma 
          Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
  
          
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        Posted - 2010.01.12 09:55:00 -
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          The truth is we are currently blue with CVA and no fighting will commence between us until January 28th at midnight eastern US time. We currently have planned a two pronged invasion of our enemies space. The goons and ZAF will approach through Period Basis. Meanwhile, CVA and allies will take HED and FAT. 
  As a fleet commander of Goonfleet I am on temporary loan to assist the Providence alliances in combat against the barbarian hordes of AAA. If you require further information please ask.
  Amarr victor.
  P.Quaresma
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          Dsan89 
          Minmatar Smegnet Corp
  
          
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        Posted - 2010.01.12 10:01:00 -
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            Originally by: Petar Quaresma The truth is we are currently blue with CVA and no fighting will commence between us until January 28th at midnight eastern US time. We currently have planned a two pronged invasion of our enemies space. The goons and ZAF will approach through Period Basis. Meanwhile, CVA and allies will take HED and FAT. 
  As a fleet commander of Goonfleet I am on temporary loan to assist the Providence alliances in combat against the barbarian hordes of AAA. If you require further information please ask.
  Amarr victor.
  P.Quaresma
 
 
  for those not used to goons and their trolls and rants this isn't true, for many obvious reasons.
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          Petar Quaresma 
          Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
  
          
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        Posted - 2010.01.12 10:08:00 -
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          Whatever you say, non-alliance affiliated player "Dsan89." I am currently in command chat of our joint alliances and so I think I have a little more insight into the mobilization than you do. As a field expert in military combat (training provided by the US Armed Forces) I am more than apt to support forces of CVA as U.S. officers did prior to Vietnam. If you didn't know, I was in charge of commanding forces which defeated Triumvirate and Mercenary Coalition on two different theaters of war. I enjoy keeping under the radar, however, as pride is not an Amarrian trait we are known for suffering; "Pride goeth before destruction: and the spirit is lifted up before a fall" (Proverbs 16:18).
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          Crispy Turtle 
          Minmatar Trigrams Edge
  
          
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        Posted - 2010.01.12 10:19:00 -
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            Originally by: Petar Quaresma Whatever you say, non-alliance affiliated player "Dsan89." I am currently in command chat of our joint alliances and so I think I have a little more insight into the mobilization than you do. As a field expert in military combat (training provided by the US Armed Forces) I am more than apt to support forces of CVA as U.S. officers did prior to Vietnam. If you didn't know, I was in charge of commanding forces which defeated Triumvirate and Mercenary Coalition on two different theaters of war. I enjoy keeping under the radar, however, as pride is not an Amarrian trait we are known for suffering; "Pride goeth before destruction: and the spirit is lifted up before a fall" (Proverbs 16:18).
 
 
  I will personally disband IT if you stop your bad posting, why are you so angry, what happened?
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          J'har 
          Amarr Silver Snake Enterprise Systematic-Chaos
  
          
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        Posted - 2010.01.12 10:43:00 -
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            Originally by: Petar Quaresma Whatever you say, non-alliance affiliated player "Dsan89." I am currently in command chat of our joint alliances and so I think I have a little more insight into the mobilization than you do. As a field expert in military combat (training provided by the US Armed Forces) I am more than apt to support forces of CVA as U.S. officers did prior to Vietnam. If you didn't know, I was in charge of commanding forces which defeated Triumvirate and Mercenary Coalition on two different theaters of war. I enjoy keeping under the radar, however, as pride is not an Amarrian trait we are known for suffering; "Pride goeth before destruction: and the spirit is lifted up before a fall" (Proverbs 16:18).
 
 
  I don't know...you look Caldari to me. Maybe you need to buy a hood.  
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          Imutep 
          Amarr Legion of Krisz
  
          
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        Posted - 2010.01.12 10:48:00 -
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            Originally by: Slimy Worm Ushra'Khan titans entered
 
 
  proof or it never happened! Bitter Dog flying a combat ship?? *shudder* whats the Eve world coming to huh?
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          Lord Zim 
          Gallente Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm
  
          
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        Posted - 2010.01.12 10:55:00 -
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            Originally by: Slimy Worm
   Originally by: Butter Dog insightful - you should work for the ISD
 
 
  So my friends in a roleplay AAA pet alliance that shall go unnamed were completely wrong about the titan engagement? There was no CVA-Goon cooperation? Was there even a titan engagement?
 
  Don't worry about what butter dog says regarding ISD, he's just butthurt that a goon told a ISD journalist that they were an "AAA renter". His poor e-honour etc.
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          Dsan89 
          Minmatar Smegnet Corp
  
          
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        Posted - 2010.01.12 10:56:00 -
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            Originally by: Petar Quaresma The truth is we are currently blue with CVA and no fighting will commence between us until January 28th at midnight eastern US time. We currently have planned a two pronged invasion of our enemies space. The goons and ZAF will approach through Period Basis. Meanwhile, CVA and allies will take HED and FAT. 
  As a fleet commander of Goonfleet I am on temporary loan to assist the Providence alliances in combat against the barbarian hordes of AAA. If you require further information please ask.
  Amarr victor.
  P.Quaresma
 
 
 
   Originally by: Petar Quaresma The truth is we are currently blue with CVA and no fighting will commence between us until January 28th at midnight eastern US time. We currently have planned a two pronged invasion of our enemies space. The goons and ZAF will approach through Period Basis. Meanwhile, CVA and allies will take HED and FAT. 
  As a fleet commander of Goonfleet I am on temporary loan to assist the Providence alliances in combat against the barbarian hordes of AAA. If you require further information please ask.
  Amarr victor.
  P.Quaresma
 
 
  why aren't you supporting CVA right now then ? recent news is that for the first time CVA is seing hostile caps on the field. and CVA is already outnumbered.
  this must be one of those proofs that goons don't give a **** about CVA... | 
      
      
      
          
          Naomi Ashikaga 
          Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
  
          
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        Posted - 2010.01.12 10:57:00 -
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            Originally by: Lord Zim
  Don't worry about what butter dog says regarding ISD, he's just butthurt that a goon told a ISD journalist that they were an "AAA renter". His poor e-honour etc.
 
 
  That was the only accurate part of the whole article.
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          Petar Quaresma 
          Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
  
          
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        Posted - 2010.01.12 11:02:00 -
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            Originally by: Dsan89
 
  why aren't you supporting CVA right now then ? recent news is that for the first time CVA is seing hostile caps on the field. and CVA is already outnumbered.
  this must be one of those proofs that goons don't give a **** about CVA...
 
 
  I really don't think you know what you're talking about. Maybe you have CAOD confused with scrapheap challenge because I am surveying the field of battle right now and our combined forces are ready for combat.
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          BeanBagKing 
          Gallente Ch3mic4l Warfare Destined For Glory
  
          
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        Posted - 2010.01.12 15:05:00 -
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            Originally by: Naomi Ashikaga
   Originally by: Lord Zim
  Don't worry about what butter dog says regarding ISD, he's just butthurt that a goon told a ISD journalist that they were an "AAA renter". His poor e-honour etc.
 
 
  That was the only accurate part of the whole article.
 
 
 
  ROFL
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          Flora Flynn 
          Gallente Woopatang Primary.
  
          
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        Posted - 2010.01.12 16:57:00 -
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          Edited by: Flora Flynn on 12/01/2010 17:06:41 I saw this the other day. Linkage 
 
  edit: Can't find the right battle report and am bored of looking.
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          Finanche 
          Minmatar Bent on Destruction deadspace society
  
          
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        Posted - 2010.01.12 17:05:00 -
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          A CVA and Goons alliance would go against CVA Mission in this game. Letting the biggest scamming organization use thier space and such.
  As an Amarr citizen I scuff at the thought if it true! AND if it is true I hope my brethern protest this! --
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          Thak Navari 
          Caldari Trust Doesn't Rust Ushra'Khan
  
          
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        Posted - 2010.01.13 00:30:00 -
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            Originally by: Finanche A CVA and Goons alliance would go against CVA Mission in this game. Letting the biggest scamming organization use thier space and such.
  As an Amarr citizen I scuff at the thought if it true! AND if it is true I hope my brethern protest this!
 
 
 
  CVA and Goons in bed, the irony so thick you cant jack hammer through it!
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          Lykouleon 
          Gallente Trust Doesn't Rust Ushra'Khan
  
          
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        Posted - 2010.01.13 00:39:00 -
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          I, too, get all of my EVE information from CAOD and do not actually log in.
   Quote: CCP Mindstar > Sorry - I've completely messed all that up. lets try again
 
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          Matata Hakuna 
          Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
  
          
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        Posted - 2010.01.13 00:41:00 -
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            Originally by: Butter Dog isn't it funny/sad that "you should work for the ISD" is a universally recognised assault on ones writing and fact-gathering ability
 
 
  Isn't it funny that you still think that anyone cares about your opinion? 
 
 
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          Hawkcrest 
          Caldari Black Aces AAA Citizens
  
          
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        Posted - 2010.01.13 00:53:00 -
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            Originally by: Matata Hakuna
   Originally by: Butter Dog isn't it funny/sad that "you should work for the ISD" is a universally recognised assault on ones writing and fact-gathering ability
 
 
  Isn't it funny that you still think that anyone cares about your opinion? 
 
 
 
 
  Its funnier that you still think anybody cares about yours.
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          Tyrrax Thorrk 
          Amarr Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance
  
          
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        Posted - 2010.01.13 01:08:00 -
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          HURF BLURF DERP DERP
 
 
 
 
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          Drakma 
          Gallente Buttered On The Wrong Side
  
          
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        Posted - 2010.01.13 04:44:00 -
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            Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk HURF BLURF DERP DERP
 
 
  I meant to reply to this quote and instead reported it. Why did CCP have to go and change the way their forum worked?
  I am an old man and I am resistant to change. Remove the REPORT button!
  Also
 
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          Finanche 
          Minmatar Bent on Destruction deadspace society
  
          
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        Posted - 2010.01.13 05:26:00 -
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          As an insult to CVA and friends...
  I highly encourage all all CVA members and friends (like myself) to drive into Delve with stealth bombers in every system and AFK or bomb all ratting and mining operations.
  Based on stats collected over the past week a trend has been noticed that if a single kill occurs in any ratting/mining system, all work seems to stop.
  So go, invade, afk or park that bomber, force recon vaga...for them trying to tarnish CVA rep and insulting the Amarr Empire! --
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          Lykouleon 
          Gallente Trust Doesn't Rust Ushra'Khan
  
          
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        Posted - 2010.01.13 06:06:00 -
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            Originally by: Finanche ...for them trying to tarnish CVA rep and insulting the Amarr Empire!
 
 
  There's a rep left to tarnish?
   Quote: CCP Mindstar > Sorry - I've completely messed all that up. lets try again
 
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          Shamrock1 
          Caldari Metalworks Majesta Empire
  
          
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        Posted - 2010.01.13 06:29:00 -
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          for those not used to goons and their trolls and rants this isn't true, for many obvious reasons.
 
  DUH!  
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          skularika 
          Caldari tr0pa de elite Triumvirate.
  
          
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        Posted - 2010.01.13 07:54:00 -
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            Originally by: Petar Quaresma The truth is we are currently blue with CVA and no fighting will commence between us until January 28th at midnight eastern US time. We currently have planned a two pronged invasion of our enemies space. The goons and ZAF will approach through Period Basis. Meanwhile, CVA and allies will take HED and FAT. 
  As a fleet commander of Goonfleet I am on temporary loan to assist the Providence alliances in combat against the barbarian hordes of AAA. If you require further information please ask.
  Amarr victor.
  P.Quaresma
 
 
  you are that disperate to make statements like this?
  i thought you cant go lower that you were 
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          Finanche 
          Minmatar Bent on Destruction deadspace society
  
          
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        Posted - 2010.01.13 07:55:00 -
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            Originally by: Lykouleon
   Originally by: Finanche ...for them trying to tarnish CVA rep and insulting the Amarr Empire!
 
 
  There's a rep left to tarnish?
 
 
 
  Shhhhh....I just want everyone to invade Delve man, help a brotha out...dang --
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          skularika 
          Caldari tr0pa de elite Triumvirate.
  
          
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        Posted - 2010.01.13 08:02:00 -
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          Lets see:
  - goons kissing CVA ass'es becouse they wanna try and escape anihilation - check - goons are so desperate that NC left them to die that dont even post on forums - check
  Lets say CVA help them :
  - IT/AAA/southers allies kill goons and send them to jita no matter what  - CVA will be next on theyr list becouse they helped goons - CVA will allways be remembered a goon pet for ever (like PL is)
  If you ask me no one can be that stupid at this point to help goons, knowing they will be next.
  This is for goons:
  THEYR BLOB IS BIGGER THAT YOUR BLOB
  Set dest jita pls. 
 
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          Scatim Helicon 
          Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
  
          
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        Posted - 2010.01.13 11:15:00 -
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          I am putting on my robe and wizard's hat
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          Equinox Daedalus 
          Caldari The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
  
          
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        Posted - 2010.01.13 12:22:00 -
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          Edited by: Equinox Daedalus on 13/01/2010 12:22:49 I believe I made CVA's position clear in an earlier post.
  While I know some goons and some -a-, as well as several other people on both sides of the fight I can say that we wouldn't chose the lesser of two evils on any side. The only choice between the GooN's and IT sides is simply the amarrian side. I suppose Providence is at fault in never getting caught up in those 2 agendas and indeed following its own.
  At the end of the day we make our own path, for the Amarrian Empire. We have the majority of both sides of the conflict marked as hostile and respond with force whenever needed, but that doesn't mean we don't seize strategic posiblities on the fly either. 
  Indeed over the long life of cva, there have been times we have been civil with -a-, even working with them back when they called IAC allies instead of enimies. Thou often times Short lived, it does seem that thru all of the ebbs and flow of life, little has changed in providence.
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          Neena Valdi 
          Gallente The Collective Against ALL Authorities
  
          
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            Originally by: skularika Lets see:
  - goons kissing CVA ass'es becouse they wanna try and escape anihilation - check - goons are so desperate that NC left them to die that dont even post on forums - check
  Lets say CVA help them :
  - IT/AAA/southers allies kill goons and send them to jita no matter what  - CVA will be next on theyr list becouse they helped goons - CVA will allways be remembered a goon pet for ever (like PL is)
 
 
 
  AAA is little smarter than that.
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          Brummbull 
          Gallente Old Timers Guild Fatal Ascension
  
          
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        Posted - 2010.01.13 17:53:00 -
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          wow, slimy your already out of UK? That didnt take long for them to relize who you are...
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          Crispy Turtle 
          Minmatar Trigrams Edge
  
          
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        Posted - 2010.01.13 18:07:00 -
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          Theres more of a chance of IT working with Goons than CVA
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          Antarans 
          Caldari Exile Consortium
  
          
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        Posted - 2010.01.14 02:00:00 -
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          As this post started as a troll, im amused how much talk has this got. As a former CVA I know that was only a tactical movement for just get some capital kills. We have seen it before, we will see it later on (on any alliance not blue each other tbh). At the end of the day, CVA is just securing amarrian laws around domain and providence. Some Catch/south skirmishes are just a way for telling our roaming neighbors that we can do it also. Just relax, get your political map off and enjoy the blobs and roams.
  You gotta put those isk somewhere dont you?
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          Slimy Worm 
          Amarr Vivicide Vivisection.
  
          
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        Posted - 2010.01.15 09:58:00 -
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            Originally by: Brummbull wow, slimy your already out of UK? That didnt take long for them to relize who you are...
 
 
  No, I left because I got sick of blobbing. I like frigates and assault frigates. I also like nrds, and U'K is nbsi in most areas. Nothing against Ushra'Khan, but it wasn't my cup of tea.
 
   Originally by: Equinox Daedalus Edited by: Equinox Daedalus on 13/01/2010 12:22:49 I believe I made CVA's position clear in an earlier post.
  While I know some goons and some -a-, as well as several other people on both sides of the fight I can say that we wouldn't chose the lesser of two evils on any side. The only choice between the GooN's and IT sides is simply the amarrian side. I suppose Providence is at fault in never getting caught up in those 2 agendas and indeed following its own.
  At the end of the day we make our own path, for the Amarrian Empire. We have the majority of both sides of the conflict marked as hostile and respond with force whenever needed, but that doesn't mean we don't seize strategic posiblities on the fly either. 
  Indeed over the long life of cva, there have been times we have been civil with -a-, even working with them back when they called IAC allies instead of enimies. Thou often times Short lived, it does seem that thru all of the ebbs and flow of life, little has changed in providence.
 
 
  Thanks. I think I have a grasp on it now.
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          Tierie 
          Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
  
          
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          Edited by: Tierie on 15/01/2010 10:39:05
   Originally by: Dsan89 Edited by: Dsan89 on 12/01/2010 10:57:01
   Originally by: Petar Quaresma The truth is we are currently blue with CVA and no fighting will commence between us until January 28th at midnight eastern US time. We currently have planned a two pronged invasion of our enemies space. The goons and ZAF will approach through Period Basis. Meanwhile, CVA and allies will take HED and FAT. 
  As a fleet commander of Goonfleet I am on temporary loan to assist the Providence alliances in combat against the barbarian hordes of AAA. If you require further information please ask.
  Amarr victor.
  P.Quaresma
 
 
  why aren't you supporting CVA right now then ? recent news is that for the first time CVA is seing hostile caps on the field. and CVA is already outnumbered.
  this must be one of those proofs that goons don't give a **** about CVA...
 
 
  come on dude, get a clue. we're all busy ratting.
  and i dunno, i hear CVA were giving out blue standings for alcohol tokens at fanfest.
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          666Devious 
          Amarr Sinister Elite
  
          
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        Posted - 2010.01.15 10:55:00 -
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            Originally by: Equinox Daedalus Edited by: Equinox Daedalus on 13/01/2010 12:22:49 I believe I made CVA's position clear in an earlier post.
  While I know some goons and some -a-, as well as several other people on both sides of the fight I can say that we wouldn't chose the lesser of two evils on any side. The only choice between the GooN's and IT sides is simply the amarrian side. I suppose Providence is at fault in never getting caught up in those 2 agendas and indeed following its own.
  At the end of the day we make our own path, for the Amarrian Empire. We have the majority of both sides of the conflict marked as hostile and respond with force whenever needed, but that doesn't mean we don't seize strategic posiblities on the fly either. 
  Indeed over the long life of cva, there have been times we have been civil with -a-, even working with them back when they called IAC allies instead of enimies. Thou often times Short lived, it does seem that thru all of the ebbs and flow of life, little has changed in providence.
 
 
 
  So funny you say this, I recall Aralis himself ordering people within the Cit channel not to engage an True Sansha goon tower around this time last year. You care to dispute that Equinox Daedalus?
 
 
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          Dunn Idaho 
          Caldari Core Impulse
  
          
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            Originally by: 666Devious
   Originally by: Equinox Daedalus Edited by: Equinox Daedalus on 13/01/2010 12:22:49 I believe I made CVA's position clear in an earlier post.
  While I know some goons and some -a-, as well as several other people on both sides of the fight I can say that we wouldn't chose the lesser of two evils on any side. The only choice between the GooN's and IT sides is simply the amarrian side. I suppose Providence is at fault in never getting caught up in those 2 agendas and indeed following its own.
  At the end of the day we make our own path, for the Amarrian Empire. We have the majority of both sides of the conflict marked as hostile and respond with force whenever needed, but that doesn't mean we don't seize strategic posiblities on the fly either. 
  Indeed over the long life of cva, there have been times we have been civil with -a-, even working with them back when they called IAC allies instead of enimies. Thou often times Short lived, it does seem that thru all of the ebbs and flow of life, little has changed in providence.
 
 
 
  So funny you say this, I recall Aralis himself ordering people within the Cit channel not to engage an True Sansha goon tower around this time last year. You care to dispute that Equinox Daedalus?
 
 
 
 
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          Wildcard Trek 
          Caldari Celestial Janissaries Curatores Veritatis Alliance
  
          
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            Originally by: 666Devious
   Originally by: Equinox Daedalus Edited by: Equinox Daedalus on 13/01/2010 12:22:49 I believe I made CVA's position clear in an earlier post.
  While I know some goons and some -a-, as well as several other people on both sides of the fight I can say that we wouldn't chose the lesser of two evils on any side. The only choice between the GooN's and IT sides is simply the amarrian side. I suppose Providence is at fault in never getting caught up in those 2 agendas and indeed following its own.
  At the end of the day we make our own path, for the Amarrian Empire. We have the majority of both sides of the conflict marked as hostile and respond with force whenever needed, but that doesn't mean we don't seize strategic posiblities on the fly either. 
  Indeed over the long life of cva, there have been times we have been civil with -a-, even working with them back when they called IAC allies instead of enimies. Thou often times Short lived, it does seem that thru all of the ebbs and flow of life, little has changed in providence.
 
 
 
  So funny you say this, I recall Aralis himself ordering people within the Cit channel not to engage an True Sansha goon tower around this time last year. You care to dispute that Equinox Daedalus?
 
 
 
 
 
  I am not Equinox Traitor Terrorist but I can confirm that we left the Goons POS alone, along with G-A I think it was or maybe ZQ, I cant remember exactly, they had a JB POS there and some deal with Sylph, so Sylph being our Allies asked us to not do anything about it or something along those lines I dont know the exact details.
  But I have to say out of all of our KOS listed target of hostile entities that visit Providence Goons and Morsus Mihi are probably the only Alliances in New Eden that dont actively come to Providence to pad their Killboards with newer pod pilot ratters when they take a serious beating somewhere else in New Eden.
  So yes it can be said that in my opinion they are given a lower target priority than lets say you who visit sometimes often. But that does not mean if a number of them showed up to roam our space we would blindly turn the other cheek, they would be hunted down and killed like any other KOS list member.
  I think Equinox's post basically says all that needs to be said.
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          666Devious 
          Amarr Sinister Elite
  
          
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            Originally by: Wildcard Trek
   Originally by: 666Devious
   Originally by: Equinox Daedalus Edited by: Equinox Daedalus on 13/01/2010 12:22:49 I believe I made CVA's position clear in an earlier post.
  While I know some goons and some -a-, as well as several other people on both sides of the fight I can say that we wouldn't chose the lesser of two evils on any side. The only choice between the GooN's and IT sides is simply the amarrian side. I suppose Providence is at fault in never getting caught up in those 2 agendas and indeed following its own.
  At the end of the day we make our own path, for the Amarrian Empire. We have the majority of both sides of the conflict marked as hostile and respond with force whenever needed, but that doesn't mean we don't seize strategic posiblities on the fly either. 
  Indeed over the long life of cva, there have been times we have been civil with -a-, even working with them back when they called IAC allies instead of enimies. Thou often times Short lived, it does seem that thru all of the ebbs and flow of life, little has changed in providence.
 
 
 
  So funny you say this, I recall Aralis himself ordering people within the Cit channel not to engage an True Sansha goon tower around this time last year. You care to dispute that Equinox Daedalus?
 
 
 
 
 
  I am not Equinox Traitor Terrorist but I can confirm that we left the Goons POS alone, along with G-A I think it was or maybe ZQ, I cant remember exactly, they had a JB POS there and some deal with Sylph, so Sylph being our Allies asked us to not do anything about it or something along those lines I dont know the exact details.
  But I have to say out of all of our KOS listed target of hostile entities that visit Providence Goons and Morsus Mihi are probably the only Alliances in New Eden that dont actively come to Providence to pad their Killboards with newer pod pilot ratters when they take a serious beating somewhere else in New Eden.
  So yes it can be said that in my opinion they are given a lower target priority than lets say you who visit sometimes often. But that does not mean if a number of them showed up to roam our space we would blindly turn the other cheek, they would be hunted down and killed like any other KOS list member.
  I think Equinox's post basically says all that needs to be said.
 
 
  oh and you forgot red army alliance
 
  Also isn't dealing with members on the KOS list get you set KOS your self? 
 
  comments?
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          Wildcard Trek 
          Caldari Celestial Janissaries Curatores Veritatis Alliance
  
          
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            Originally by: 666Devious
   Originally by: Wildcard Trek
   Originally by: 666Devious
   Originally by: Equinox Daedalus Edited by: Equinox Daedalus on 13/01/2010 12:22:49 I believe I made CVA's position clear in an earlier post.
  While I know some goons and some -a-, as well as several other people on both sides of the fight I can say that we wouldn't chose the lesser of two evils on any side. The only choice between the GooN's and IT sides is simply the amarrian side. I suppose Providence is at fault in never getting caught up in those 2 agendas and indeed following its own.
  At the end of the day we make our own path, for the Amarrian Empire. We have the majority of both sides of the conflict marked as hostile and respond with force whenever needed, but that doesn't mean we don't seize strategic posiblities on the fly either. 
  Indeed over the long life of cva, there have been times we have been civil with -a-, even working with them back when they called IAC allies instead of enimies. Thou often times Short lived, it does seem that thru all of the ebbs and flow of life, little has changed in providence.
 
 
 
  So funny you say this, I recall Aralis himself ordering people within the Cit channel not to engage an True Sansha goon tower around this time last year. You care to dispute that Equinox Daedalus?
 
 
 
 
 
  I am not Equinox Traitor Terrorist but I can confirm that we left the Goons POS alone, along with G-A I think it was or maybe ZQ, I cant remember exactly, they had a JB POS there and some deal with Sylph, so Sylph being our Allies asked us to not do anything about it or something along those lines I dont know the exact details.
  But I have to say out of all of our KOS listed target of hostile entities that visit Providence Goons and Morsus Mihi are probably the only Alliances in New Eden that dont actively come to Providence to pad their Killboards with newer pod pilot ratters when they take a serious beating somewhere else in New Eden.
  So yes it can be said that in my opinion they are given a lower target priority than lets say you who visit sometimes often. But that does not mean if a number of them showed up to roam our space we would blindly turn the other cheek, they would be hunted down and killed like any other KOS list member.
  I think Equinox's post basically says all that needs to be said.
 
 
  oh and you forgot red army alliance
 
  Also isn't dealing with members on the KOS list get you set KOS your self? 
 
  comments?
 
 
 
 
  Red Army Alliance always operated NRDS by the official CVA KOS list, and therefore were and are still if I am not mistaken in Providence. Just because one organization is friendly with another does not mean auto KOS.
  If you want to avail yourself of Amarrian Providence and while there obey Amarrain Law then your welcome to come and visit, live, and stay at your leisure. Red Army Alliance did just that, and they may still, I dont know have never seen many of them around, and the ones I did were quite nice guys to talk with.
  And I think you already know about the other Devious, It is quite obvious they were an alt corporation of a known hostile, using neutral status to evade Amarrian Law, which we found out about. The CVA and Allies do not dictate who you may or may not be friendly with, but the KOS list is there as a tool for peaceful pod pilots to use to see who would do them harm. If people wish to form gangs and hunt undesireables in Providence they are welcome to do so, but not forced to do so in any way.
  I still think you and I are on friendly terms, even though you went traitor terrorist on me. Just because your on the wrong side of the fence does not mean we cant still be sociable. And the same applies to any other entity.
 
 
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          Leviathan Tank 
          Caldari The Order of Odin
  
          
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          Goons ARE slaves.. eh
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          MushskiC 
          Caldari m3 Corp Paxton Federation
  
          
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            Originally by: Slimy Worm
   Originally by: Brummbull wow, slimy your already out of UK? That didnt take long for them to relize who you are...
 
 
  No, I left because I got sick of blobbing. I like frigates and assault frigates. I also like nrds, and U'K is nbsi in most areas. Nothing against Ushra'Khan, but it wasn't my cup of tea.
 
 
  That's interesting...
 
   Originally by: Xious Ushra'Khan is NRDS in every region (high, low and null) bar Catch and Providence.
 
 
  And that quote is from the 6th, so 13 days ago, 9 days before your quote.
  And oh wait, I think that means U'K are NRDS is most areas. Slimy = liessssss.  
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          Freiherr vonRichthofen 
          Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm
  
          
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          Edited by: Freiherr vonRichthofen on 19/01/2010 23:00:36 It's good to see that Mr Vee's cultural exchange program is proving effective We hope the skills learned can be beneficial in ensuring the Amarr Victory.
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          karttoon 
          Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
  
          
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        Posted - 2010.01.19 23:08:00 -
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          Edited by: karttoon on 19/01/2010 23:13:53
   Originally by: Freiherr vonRichthofen Edited by: Freiherr vonRichthofen on 19/01/2010 23:00:36 It's good to see that Mr Vee's cultural exchange program is proving effective We hope the skills learned can be beneficial in ensuring the Amarr Victory.
 
 
  CVA can role play as elite German bomber pilots and join GoonWaffe.
 
 
 
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          Psilocin 
          Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
  
          
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          I, too, like owning slaves
 
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          Equinox Daedalus 
          Caldari The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
  
          
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        Posted - 2010.01.20 14:24:00 -
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            Originally by: 666Devious
   Originally by: Equinox Daedalus Edited by: Equinox Daedalus on 13/01/2010 12:22:49 I believe I made CVA's position clear in an earlier post.
  While I know some goons and some -a-, as well as several other people on both sides of the fight I can say that we wouldn't chose the lesser of two evils on any side. The only choice between the GooN's and IT sides is simply the amarrian side. I suppose Providence is at fault in never getting caught up in those 2 agendas and indeed following its own.
  At the end of the day we make our own path, for the Amarrian Empire. We have the majority of both sides of the conflict marked as hostile and respond with force whenever needed, but that doesn't mean we don't seize strategic posiblities on the fly either. 
  Indeed over the long life of cva, there have been times we have been civil with -a-, even working with them back when they called IAC allies instead of enimies. Thou often times Short lived, it does seem that thru all of the ebbs and flow of life, little has changed in providence.
 
 
 
  So funny you say this, I recall Aralis himself ordering people within the Cit channel not to engage an True Sansha goon tower around this time last year. You care to dispute that Equinox Daedalus?
 
 
 
 
  Actually it was before BoB was disbanded. Goons lived in the south and had a jb/cyno network through catch to their home. I believe there was/is a video out there where they say goodbye before moving on.
  CVA has never said Not to shoot anyone on our reds list unless it was to aid our allies or after a negotiated standings change and they were removed. 
  We did clearly say to people that it was thier choice to shoot the pos if they felt like it, but cva didn't deem it a high value reward for the effort that would come from it. Goons were not using the pos to base hostile assaults from the area, and while there may have been plans ongoing to interdict the multiple freighter drops that came past that pos, at the end of the day goons left before we felt the need to drive overwhelming force upon them. If anyone wanted to shoot the pos they were free to shoot it, long as they were able to handle the goon invasion of yong when it came out of reinforced. 
  While you have your own motivations for crying here, CVA's main motivation is the safety and security of Lower Domain, Providence, The parts of Catch we patrol, and the derelik region 1st and foremost.
  however some cyno travel tower isn't high up on the priority list.
 
 
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          The Mittani 
          Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
  
          
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          realpolitik is a *****, suck it up
 
 
  Sins of a Solar Spymaster: my ~fair and balanced~ column TheMittani @ Twitter
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