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Kiri Serrensun
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Posted - 2010.01.19 14:41:00 -
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Originally by: Bellum Eternus Totally not supported. Everyone supporting this idea are just the guys who get killed when they're probed out. Fail more.
I explore for a living and so far, I've never lost a ship from being probed out and busted in a site (lost one from warping into a site where the gate was camped, and one from fleeing probers to run into their buddies gatecamp, mind you). I can use the scanner to find them sufficiently well, but it's just annoying because it's so badly designed. Not "challenging", not skilful, just tedious. If probes were added to the overview, I'd check just as often as I do now and have the same chances of getting caught--only I'd be less annoyed in the process by wading through the same two dozen Small Railgun Batteries.
Being able to filter probes wouldn't save people who forget to scan / align, and a cumbersome, boring interface is not the right way to balance anything.
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Kal'Zakath
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Posted - 2010.01.19 16:06:00 -
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Kulani
Cobalt Dragon Exploration Company
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Posted - 2010.01.19 18:16:00 -
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Fantastic idea that only makes sense. Those of us who use the DS religiously while mining/gassing/doing a combat site would love this option.
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Insa Rexion
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2010.01.19 18:39:00 -
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Not Supported, just lazy ppl wanting a 1 click notification that someone is looking for them... too easy, and no I am not a pirate. --------------------------------------------
well mannered ****ole |

Boknamar
Gallente Quality Control.
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Posted - 2010.01.19 23:12:00 -
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Edited by: Boknamar on 19/01/2010 23:11:44
Originally by: Insa Rexion Not Supported, just lazy ppl wanting a 1 click notification that someone is looking for them... too easy, and no I am not a pirate.
I would have had more sympathy for that argument back when a scan for a maxed-out prober would take about 20 seconds, and it wasn't possible to locate someone and then scan them down in such rapid sequence.
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Seth Ruin
Minmatar Ominous Corp Cult of War
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Posted - 2010.01.19 23:59:00 -
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Originally by: Insa Rexion Not Supported, just lazy ppl wanting a 1 click notification that someone is looking for them... too easy, and no I am not a pirate.
You realize you can already see probes using your directional scanner, right? This isn't really about adding anything, but being able to filter out the rest of the junk.
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Ophelia Ursus
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Posted - 2010.01.20 03:05:00 -
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CCP have already said they'll do this - it was in the minutes of the most recent CCP-CSM meeting. Nevertheless, supported again.
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Insa Rexion
Minmatar CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2010.01.20 15:01:00 -
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Originally by: Seth Ruin
Originally by: Insa Rexion Not Supported, just lazy ppl wanting a 1 click notification that someone is looking for them... too easy, and no I am not a pirate.
You realize you can already see probes using your directional scanner, right? This isn't really about adding anything, but being able to filter out the rest of the junk.
Yes I do, what part of my post said I didn't ? Were you just hoping for a gotcha moment because i don't agree with you ? Sorry, i use the DS with Overview settings unchecked just like you and i scroll down just like you and i manage fine. Without the scrolling ie, with a probes in overview setting, you may as well just have a big red sign pop up and say "probes in system" for all the effort required/
Again not supported --------------------------------------------
well mannered ****ole |

Linsyn
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Posted - 2010.01.20 19:17:00 -
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Good idea
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Quivering Palm
SI Radio
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Posted - 2010.01.20 19:21:00 -
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absolutely supported!!!!
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Bubbled
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Posted - 2010.01.21 08:39:00 -
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/signed
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Lionel Redstar
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Posted - 2010.01.21 08:39:00 -
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+1
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Marcus Druallis
Quantum Industries Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2010.01.21 17:44:00 -
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Guys, you do not HAVE to live in WH space. When you enter, you should understand that it is a dangerous place and should plan accordingly.
People need to stop appeasing to CCP when something doesn't go absolutely PERFECT for them. Suck up a few losses, and learn how to plan ahead and work to combat the issues that plague you (apparently being ganked).
I can't stand the constant movement to make EVE easier and easier. For the record, I live in a WH and both gank and get ganked. Grow up, and use the tools you're given. If we are going to make a change like this, might as well give ****in' local back. I can't stand players like you. --
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Hemp Invader
g guild Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2010.01.21 17:50:00 -
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Edited by: Hemp Invader on 21/01/2010 17:50:40
Originally by: Marcus Druallis Guys, you do not HAVE to live in WH space. When you enter, you should understand that it is a dangerous place and should plan accordingly.
People need to stop appeasing to CCP when something doesn't go absolutely PERFECT for them. Suck up a few losses, and learn how to plan ahead and work to combat the issues that plague you (apparently being ganked).
I can't stand the constant movement to make EVE easier and easier. For the record, I live in a WH and both gank and get ganked. Grow up, and use the tools you're given. If we are going to make a change like this, might as well give ****in' local back. I can't stand players like you.
THIS!!! Now go play hello kitty online or something with more pink in it...again, not suported!
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Calexis Atredies
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Posted - 2010.01.21 18:10:00 -
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Edited by: Calexis Atredies on 21/01/2010 18:16:54 As a wormhole gangker for some months now, and as a exploration wh*re I am going to have to VETO THIS SH*T. The game is about PVP, pure and simple... in EVE nowhere is safe, you need to be on the freaking ball to get ahead in this game. I am happy to make the effort to try and maximise security in wormhole space whilst bearing, if they still manage to catch me its fair beans to them. This request is out of pure lazyness, and the whole lag argument is rubbish.
CCP do not give into the carebears, they know the risks of wormhole space and still they live there. You even give them a warning jumping in from highsec, thats more than enough. If they want to come into the land of wolves let them do so at their own peril.
LONG LIVE PVP
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Zeo 68
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Posted - 2010.01.21 18:14:00 -
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Originally by: IamBeastx Edited by: IamBeastx on 16/01/2010 00:10:08 Even though this mainly helps people not get ganked i see this topic from both sides of the argument.
'I don't want to get ganked' while doing a site and 'i hope they don't see my probes' as i lock them down.
As a wormhole dweller i have been on both sides of this situation equally, we (my corp) regularly run sites in our home system and neighboring wormhole systems. At the same time and more often i have been the one at the controlling side of the scan probes looking to lock down an unfortunate.
The idea i'm posting is simple and possibly mentioned before. Make all scan probes an option in overview filter types, this way less clutter is shown on directional scan if profiles are made properly. It may also reduce lag as less items are needed for directional, especially if you are within range of multiple Pos's.
More based from a wormhole point of view, it will help in highsec,lowsec, 0.0 and any future systems where local is not an immediate intel piece.
Good troll thread, 10/10
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Exlegion
Salva Veritate
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Posted - 2010.01.21 18:43:00 -
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Supported. This won't be a popular idea among the gankers but it needs to happen.
One of us equals many of us. Disrespect one of us, you'll see plenty of us. - Gang Starr |

Taryn Najirek
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Posted - 2010.01.21 20:32:00 -
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Edited by: Taryn Najirek on 21/01/2010 20:32:44 Edited by: Taryn Najirek on 21/01/2010 20:31:48 Not supported. At all.
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Marcus Druallis
Quantum Industries Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2010.01.21 20:45:00 -
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Edited by: Marcus Druallis on 21/01/2010 20:46:16
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Marcus Druallis
Quantum Industries Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2010.01.21 20:46:00 -
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Originally by: Exlegion Supported. This won't be a popular idea among the gankers but it needs to happen.
You're right, it does need to happen. While we are at it, IMO it is VERY hard to look through local if you have an active war dec.
Can you also implement a system where a HUGE popup comes up if there is in fact a war target in local. I mean, it's just so I don't have to scroll through the already available information in order to determine if there is a threat. Thanks! --
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Arctur Ceti
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Posted - 2010.01.21 21:13:00 -
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two thumbs up
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Calexis Atredies
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Posted - 2010.01.22 04:17:00 -
[52]
die in a fire |

Marcus Druallis
Quantum Industries Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2010.01.22 05:37:00 -
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Originally by: Calexis Atredies die in a fire
I know him and he meant ingame. He's crazy like that :P |

nekolove
Eve University
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Posted - 2010.01.22 09:36:00 -
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The compulsive clicking of the directional scanner for defense and detection of intruders is bad enough.
Having to scroll down the whole results in the middle of moons, planets, station modules and debris is to add insult to the jury.
Let people choose probes on their profile, it's a good idea. |

Hemp Invader
g guild Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2010.01.22 11:24:00 -
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Originally by: nekolove
Let people choose probes on their profile, it's a good idea.
Do you even know how hard it is to find targets in WH space? Do you even know that when you finally find those targets you have to wait for hours till they come online? Do you even know that when they come online and they actually do something you have to drop probes,wich if the system is small they can see them? Do you even know that sometimes if you manage to get probes on them, without them bugging out, 2 out of 3 times they see your probes and leave within 15 seconds?
The curent system alows pvp-ers to get 2-3 seconds more on average on their scanning. 2-3 seconds that make the difference. If CCP would ever implement this...imagine the macros mining in WH systems perfectly safe.
So the guys that are giving a thumbs up to this are either carebears doing carebearistic sh*t in WH's or are people who haven't even tried the WH game. |

Venkul Mul
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Posted - 2010.01.22 14:23:00 -
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