Archon racial ship bonus: 5% all armor resist per level, the best capacitor of 4 carriers

Bhaalgorn: "hey' you seem me there? (50km)"
Victim: "pwahaha FU flying banana!"
Bhaalgorn: activates 1 energy neut 1 Web
Victim: "erm, wtf? -wait, I have 0 cap and can't move??-wtf is this??)
Bhaalgorn: "bzzzz -bzzzzz-bzzzz"
Victim: "what tha...I didn't even..."

1.5Bill ship = 15 drakes

Proteus: slap 2 faction EANP 1New resist mod TE's plate and med rep(faction is cool) 1explo rig 1trimark 1 ambit extension.
Shoot ammo with +25% tracking at 30km+, point at 40km (solo) push battleship HP and HAC dps
1Bil ship = 10 drakes

But we see more often Tengu fleets than ishtar fleets (bombs love for sentry everyone?), or Proteus fleets. Lokis are very common in fleets too however you'll not see full loki fleets tomorrow.

I know I have English grammar issues, however in my book it's completely different saying AT is "completely useless" from "not worthy" or "less good" or "not as effective as"
It works in some specific cases that always turn around 2 major points:

-dmg projection: pulse abby ok, blaster mega:no
-tank: +5 resist abby ok, blaster armor mega: no

Mega has a good drone bay: 1 set of lights 1 st of sentry
Mega has a much better dps: 130k EHP for over 1400dps with

Problem here? -tank, Mega vs Abby has 100% less tank and even if you manage to land on top of those abby they'll pop like popcorn because cost effective = abby, mega is a nice snowflake at gates/station undocks for short time fights

Your problem isn't armor tanking, it's trying to use Gallente ships the same way you use Amarr ships.

Well, I actually use Minmatar ships like blasters because they're better blaster ships than Gallente ones.

Sorry, but if I met someone on a gate or undock, I'd be much more threatened by a megathron than by a tempest. Likewise with a Hyperion vs a Maelstrom.

Your problem isn't armor tanking, it's trying to use Gallente ships the same way you use Amarr ships.

Armour and Shield tanking are different and more or less balanced.

I would like to see armor BC with 100k EHP and still be able to deal 500 dps @ 100km.

I would like to see armor BC with 100k EHP and still be able to deal 500 dps @ 100km.

I would like to see armor BC with 100k EHP and still be able to deal 500 dps @ 100km.

Please show me the shield bc that does this. Tip, Drake can't shoot farther than 80km with faction, 70 with rage and has 60 drone control range, which translates to 300dps@80, 400dps@70, 500dps@60.
Increasing range decreases tank.

Yes, and next you will tell me that this is a perfectly normal fit, as every rat in null drops faction.
Another tip, posting full faction fits in threads about the general state of armor/shield tanking isn't helping your case.

As far as I remember you claimed that Drake can't do it. I proved you wrong.

With a ****-fit and implants. Good job. Please bring this ship to Liekuri and I'll kill it for you.

This is more a problem of the drake than a problem of armor tank ; problem which will be corrected by removing drake resist bonus soon(TM)

Show me 100k EHP armor BC with 100km range then.

[Hurricane, SH!TF!T]

And what makes you think that is cheaper than Drake fit I posted?

Queue the semantics in 3....2.....1....

As far as I remember you claimed that Drake can't do it. I proved you wrong.

Show me 100k EHP armor BC with 100km range then.

As far as I remember you claimed that Drake can't do it. I proved you wrong.

[Myrmidon, lolWhat?]
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Corpum A-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Shadow Serpentis Tracking Computer, Optimal Range Script
Shadow Serpentis Tracking Computer, Optimal Range Script
Shadow Serpentis Tracking Computer, Optimal Range Script
'Marketeer' Tracking Computer I, Optimal Range Script
F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines, Targeting Range Script

Drone Link Augmentor I
Drone Link Augmentor II
250mm Railgun II, Spike M
250mm Railgun II, Spike M
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II


Ogre II x2
Hammerhead II x2
Hobgoblin II x1

[Myrmidon, lolWhat?]
483 drone dps @104km
40 gun dps @97+32km
117k ehp

Slave 1-6
Inherent Implants 'Noble' Hull Upgrades HG-1006

Ogre II x2
Hammerhead II x2
Hobgoblin II x1
483 drone dps @104km
40 gun dps @97+32km
117k ehp

Slave 1-6
Inherent Implants 'Noble' Hull Upgrades HG-1006

How does it feel, eating your own words? Do they taste good? GTFO.

Ok, you win. Shield tanking is superior.

And your Cane fit only has 46,8k EHP and targeting range is 56,3 km. 535 dps isn't even close what you stated.

I would like to see armor BC with 100k EHP and still be able to deal 500 dps @ 100km.



All carriers in w-space are equpped with shield transporters (yes, even Arch and Than).

Also: Pulsar.

in fact the Drake actually has LESS EHP buffer than both the Harbinger and the Hurricane when they're armor tanked.

58,3k EHP Harbinger and for some reason I can't think anything useful out of Drake with LESS than 58,3k EHP.

[Harbinger, pew]

I think that large problem here is not the EHP.

It's that shield tanking high EHP automatically means high passive shield bonus.

For example:

Can fit a drake with 80k EHP very easily and have a passive regen of 60 shield per sec (on average, but it's much higher at 30% shields) and a nice amount of dps and range.

But with any armor tanking ship, it's difficult to get a nice balance of EHP, regen, dps and range as it is for a shield tanking drake.

Also to note, Prophecy's are utter garbage and should be reworked.