This is exactly what he's doing: creating a program that guesses massive amounts API keys. When it happens on one that's in use, it records what it finds. No leaks needed, just some dedicated CPU power.

He is not cracking the API keys, that would not be allowed as you have effectively hacked someone's account. But you are on the right lines, he is just guessing char ids and seeing if they work, its not even that compute intensive.

Given the amount of idiots who have account and character names the same it looks quite useful for a bit of brute forcing/social engineering accounts too.

So who's the muppet designer who ****** this up?

You can find it in-game, you can search by partial character name and try to find there "hidden" characters.

So what? Macroing outside EVE, using external applications and API is allowed.

I have spoken with the developers who manage and maintain the EVE API. They have assured me that evewho is not conducting any illegal or underhand method of obtaining API information. All information gathered has been posted publicly in one form or another. We maintain a very close eye on what is happening with the API and will continue to do so.

I suggest you refrain from confirming anything. the details of what is allowed with the EVE API is decided by the developers who work on that code.

I just want to clarify:

We have very clear policies about what's allowed and not. As you will know, we will throttle invalid calls, as we do not allow throwing 10 million random IDs at the API and hoping they return data.

Scraping through characterIDs hoping to hit a valid one is NOT allowed. Doing so will get your IP blocked from the API. But if you do valid calls because you know it's a valid ID is fine. But generating excess errors will get your IP blocked.

Nice try. But no. Just doing simple valid calls won't make us forget that you just did 3 bad calls

I can't speak in certain terms, as the plans aren't done at this point. But does it make sense to me? Yes.

I can confirm this to be true, and also say that it is VERY VERY hard to get it unblocked again.
In my case it was excessively updating of a "scammer list", in combination with bad settings in Excel that did the trick.

This is likely to become more of a problem soon(ish). Reason being its quite likely that as IPv6 (finally) gets introduced in Europe/North America the more likely that all the legacy modems/routers consumers have will be proxied through a gateway.

For anyone in the UK, all your mobile phone stuff works like this - its all proxied and logged due to rules about under 18s, more to do with contracts than morality IMHO ;)

Hi guys, thanks for checking out EveWho. I was asked to come here and clarify a couple of things.

1) I am NOT scraping the API.
2) All information I've retrieved is publicly available somewhere.
3) I am NOT scraping the API.

I am well aware of CCP's policies per using the API and I have no intention of abusing them. I built the initial database by getting a character dump from Eve-Kill, scraping some forums, scraping a few hundred other killboards, and from a couple of donations of character name lists.

I am NOT scraping the API.

I built this site by using resources available to everyone. That includes you. I saw another site similar to EveWho a few months ago and thought I could do a better job. I believe I did. If you think you can do a better job, you just might be able to do so :)

I am NOT scraping the API.

Once again let me restate that I am not scraping the API. I might cause an error or two every few minutes but no where near enough to get myself Scotty'ed or even banned. I like getting along with Scotty anyway.

I am NOT scraping the API.

Please continue to enjoy EveWho for good or bad, whichever you prefer.

Fly dangerous,
Squizz

Once again let me restate that I am not scraping the API. I might cause an error or two every few minutes but no where near enough to get myself Scotty'ed or even banned. I like getting along with Scotty anyway.

Squizz is using the EVSCO API proxy, and if ur interested in knowing numbers and statistics on the EVE API as we see it, have at it! ;)

EVE API errors (how many errors we generate a day, this is for both EVE-KILL, EVEWho, EVEChatter and quite a few people who use our API proxy for various things (evemon for example))

http://91.215.157.114/munin/eureka.evsco.net/ronon.eureka.evsco.net/eveapi_errors_php.html

EVE API requests (How many requests we do each day, this is for both EVE-KILL, EVEWho, EVEChatter and quite a few people who use our API proxy for various things (evemon for example))
http://91.215.157.114/munin/eureka.evsco.net/ronon.eureka.evsco.net/eveapi_requests_php.html

and if you want more stats then take a look here:
http://91.215.157.114/munin/eureka.evsco.net/ronon.eureka.evsco.net/index.html#eve%20api
and
http://91.215.157.114/munin/eureka.evsco.net/ronon.eureka.evsco.net/index.html#eve-kill

CCP are also welcome to keep a look at it, im sure you can use it for something.

also, <3 Squizz

So let me get this straight: Every bit of data I fetch with EVEMon, is fetched via service provided by EVSCO?

So EVSCO gets to see everything I see via EVEMon and also keeps that data cached

Maybe it's time to stop using EVEMon then.. I never knew about such caching being used...

I can't speak in certain terms, as the plans aren't done at this point. But does it make sense to me? Yes.

And with that last remark, i think we can call this rage thread for over.

Toodles o/