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Epicus Aideron Shattered Reality and Twisted Development 0	Posted - 2012.06.24 23:52:00 - [31] - Quote Tippia wrote: Epicus Aideron wrote: By setting a queue and logging out? If I play 24/7 it won't make a difference. No, by finding something you want to do and doing it. Here's the thing about EVE: it's the journey that counts, because there is nothing at the end of the rainbow. If you don't enjoy the journey, you will hate the destination. The problem is that, as a newbie, you're going to be inundated by idiotic advice along the lines of GÇ£don't do X before you have YGÇ¥ (Y being a skill set or piece of equipment orGÇª well, anything, really), which is pretty much the worst kind of griefing this game has to offer. ... Nice, this is a fair point. I asked around about PvP and was told to basically wait a month. I assumed I could get to it faster but alas I was unaware of the time based system.
Epicus Aideron Shattered Reality and Twisted Development 0	Posted - 2012.06.24 23:54:00 - [32] - Quote Aruken Marr wrote: Epicus Aideron wrote: Terranid Meester wrote: Grinding is an arcane game system that needs to be stabbed with a fork until its dead. If you think you need x number of skill points to compete then 'you are doing it wrong'. Possibly! I am new, is PVP possible at 300k sp, I am in a Catalyst with 8 Blaster turrets and level 2 class armor upgrades. Join RVB and fly frigates like an incursus as light tackle and work your way into bigger things. Dont instantly think the next ship class is the better one as it takes a lot more time than the base requirements to fly a ship properly (support skills and experience.) Training a for a rifter wouldn't hurt either. Plus RVB will help you with any help you need. You're bound to fail a couple times at first but it takes practice. It's definately worth it. Just applied for the Blues! :) Ill give it a go.
Aruken Marr BSC LEGION Tactical Narcotics Team 152	Posted - 2012.06.24 23:55:00 - [33] - Quote Epicus Aideron wrote: Aruken Marr wrote: Epicus Aideron wrote: Terranid Meester wrote: Grinding is an arcane game system that needs to be stabbed with a fork until its dead. If you think you need x number of skill points to compete then 'you are doing it wrong'. Possibly! I am new, is PVP possible at 300k sp, I am in a Catalyst with 8 Blaster turrets and level 2 class armor upgrades. Join RVB and fly frigates like an incursus as light tackle and work your way into bigger things. Dont instantly think the next ship class is the better one as it takes a lot more time than the base requirements to fly a ship properly (support skills and experience.) Training a for a rifter wouldn't hurt either. Plus RVB will help you with any help you need. You're bound to fail a couple times at first but it takes practice. It's definately worth it. Just applied for the Blues! :) Ill give it a go. Ah great! Good luck to ya.
Antisocial Malkavian Aliastra Gallente Federation 171	Posted - 2012.06.24 23:58:00 - [34] - Quote Tippia wrote: it was horrible and only caused moronic behaviour in the players. Like the rest of EVE lol Especially mining? http://gizmodo.com/5913381/season-your-food-with-salt-from-real-human-tears you will be harvested
Virgil Travis GWA Corp Unified Church of the Unobligated 357	Posted - 2012.06.24 23:59:00 - [35] - Quote Not logging in and just waiting for skills to train will end really well. As pointed out above, you'll have plenty of character skills but little in the way of player experience and that can count more than the number of skill points you have. The more expensive, bigger ships take knowledge of the game and your opponents to fly without becoming a comedy killmail. This illustrates what lack of player experience can do when coupled with lots of skill points and too much isk, one big pile of fail. Unified Church of the Unobligated - madness in the method Mamma didn't raise no victims.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 8130	Posted - 2012.06.25 00:02:00 - [36] - Quote Epicus Aideron wrote: Nice, this is a fair point. I asked around about PvP and was told to basically wait a month. I assumed I could get to it faster but alas I was unaware of the time based system. Yes, I remember those in the newbie corp chat. Now that I look back at it, I wish I had podded them allGÇª Anyway, for a starting point, I can only point to this skill plan, which is at least an attempt at doing the opposite: its entire goal is GÇ£how much can you do with the least amount of SP?GÇ¥ Yes, you'll notice that it still ends at the one-month mark, but the trick lies in what you can do after just a week or two. The part not mentioned there is that it's kind of a good thing that you won't be in the fanciest ships, because while you learn to fly and engage a target, you will lose ships. Keeping them cheap is a plus. Another plus is that losing ships to the right people can be a surprisingly good way at finding people to fly withGÇª Just play up that cute-newbie GÇ£awww can I bring him homeGÇ¥-puppy appeal by showing enough spunk to attack a HAC fleet with your Slasher. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ CONCORD spawns: quick enough to save you?
hedge betts Shiyurida State Protectorate Caldari State 35	Posted - 2012.06.25 00:12:00 - [37] - Quote Not to sound obvious or sarcastic but just ask in local in any system. If your in a rookie system team up and shoot it out. If not you may end up being popped by a 40 mil player , start up a convoy with him/her and see will they let you tag along or join there corp or better yet they may know of someone that is taking on new player's. As you.said in the op, it's a sand box make your own content. Cup the balls, and work the shaft
Zoe Athame Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth 86	Posted - 2012.06.25 00:18:00 - [38] - Quote edited: writing my own thread instead
Yonis Kador Transstellar Alchemy 172	Posted - 2012.06.25 00:47:00 - [39] - Quote Patience is a virtue in EvE. But maybe there's room for tweaks in sp mechanics like anything else. I'm not sure how it would affect the buisness end of things, but it would be interesting if we could maximize training certain skills more quickly at the permanent expense of training others more slowly. I know you can sorta do that now, but since the learning skills were taken out, there isn't much you can do to minimize the wait. Or what about the opposite? Maybe players should be able to sell sp for isk. Your new character is stranded at a camped station in enemy territory. No one to call for help. You need an item on the market but only have x isk, so you sacrifice unnecessary sp to get the millions you need and prevail. After combat, players would need to repair characters as well as ships. OP, There's only a few things you can do to speed up skill-training time, so just in case: 1.) Full set of implants? Make sure you've got at least +3s. If you can't afford any, implants are commonly given as mission rewards. 2.)Create a character plan on Evemon and "optimize attributes." Then do a neural reconfiguration on your EvE character setting its attributes to those maxxed values. 3.) If you have the isk for it, search in contracts and purchase a Cerebral accelerator. Its a booster for noobs that lasts 35 days and +3s all attributes. As a new player, I guess you're expected to do the tutorials and then run the Sisters of EvE Epic Arc. During which the mechanics of gameplay are explained and some basic items are delivered. This is a game of strategy. Patience is your friend. If your skills aren't high enough yet to pvp in the way you would choose, adapt. Make allies. Find two other guys in the same situation you're in and go get podded together. It'll be fun. If you're poor, run away from guys bigger than you until they run from you. (He who fights and runs away, lives to fight another day?) Have fun with it. You've got to entertain yourself. What you do while you wait is the game. Yonis Kador ...
Kyle Ward Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 55	Posted - 2012.06.25 03:27:00 - [40] - Quote Did we already do the "WoW is that way -->"? Poastin with my main

Nikodiemus Jokulhlaup 33	Posted - 2012.06.25 03:36:00 - [41] - Quote Those of us that have been here "forever" do actually know what it is like. Though "forever" in my case is Niko's creation date - and never did I buy another char. I remember the boredom as a newbie but I was always excited by the possibilities and I always found something else to do. If you are bored because you are sitting in station and hoping for an XP grind mission to solo and get to an empty end-game, then you are playing the wrong game. My problem was when I got bored with the content after 1.5-2 years solid in nullsec I left for about a year. New gamers need to know what they are playing and know how to make the most of this game - it isn't WOW, we don't hold your hand. You come here to be self sufficient and capable of finding your own way. Self Sufficient btw does not mean solo, it means not dorky or so incapable that you cannot play with others when you need or want to. Being a newb is one of the greatest parts of any great MMO. The best part of Eve is you are always a newb, no matter what you know or can do - someone knows or can do it better.
Katie Frost Asgard. Exodus. 53	Posted - 2012.06.25 03:46:00 - [42] - Quote TIE, man... TIE (This is EvE)
T271 Moo corporation Reverberation Project 5	Posted - 2012.06.25 03:46:00 - [43] - Quote If you don't need money now, you will need it later.
Antisocial Malkavian Aliastra Gallente Federation 175	Posted - 2012.06.25 03:58:00 - [44] - Quote Antisocial Malkavian wrote: Tippia wrote: it was horrible and only caused moronic behaviour in the players. Like the rest of EVE lol Especially mining? Im guessing obvious is obvious? http://gizmodo.com/5913381/season-your-food-with-salt-from-real-human-tears you will be harvested
SmilingVagrant GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 467	Posted - 2012.06.25 04:08:00 - [45] - Quote I'm all for speeding up the skill train for subcaps. Capitals are fine, supercaps should take a wee bit longer. I mean honestly: I'm at the point where I can fly most of the things I want to fly competently, but even I think it's complete bullshit that it took two years to get here. However that said: The OP needs to realize that no one is just going to serve up interesting things to do in this game like they do in others. If you want to "Get Ahead" in eve, regardless of your SP, you need to team up with others, and you also need to learn how to talk to others in such a way that they would want to team up with you.
Shameless Avenger Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 74	Posted - 2012.06.25 04:20:00 - [46] - Quote Epicus Aideron wrote: Terranid Meester wrote: Grinding is an arcane game system that needs to be stabbed with a fork until its dead. If you think you need x number of skill points to compete then 'you are doing it wrong'. Possibly! I am new, is PVP possible at 300k sp, I am in a Catalyst with 8 Blaster turrets and level 2 class armor upgrades. hum... lets zoom in on this... Epicus Aideron wrote: Possibly! I am new, is PVP possible at 300k sp, I am in a Catalyst with 8 Blaster turrets and level 2 class armor upgrades. a little closer: Epicus Aideron wrote: I am in a Catalyst with 8 Blaster turrets Now lets translate this into proper eve jargon: Epicus Aideron wrote: I am in an Uber miner ganking machine that can chew through a mackinaw like it's nobody's bussiness Really OP... have fun b4 the Catalyst gets nerfed or the mining barges get buffed.
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1116	Posted - 2012.06.25 07:48:00 - [47] - Quote The catalyst with 8 blasters is surprisingly painful if it gets in a tight orbit on you. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm
Effect One Selective Hearing Nearly Feared 21	Posted - 2012.06.25 08:06:00 - [48] - Quote I fail to see why you can't grab a rifter and help others PvP with low SP, I know I did. I was flying around in a crow after 4 months in game having fun with that. You don't need huge amounts of SP to PvP, it just helps. The beneficial effect of large numbers of SP is diminished in group PvP anyway. (Relative) Safey in numbers. The worst thing you can do in this game is start waiting for your skill queue to finish, because it never will. Learn to enjoy what you have access to currently and you will enjoy the game a lot more by proxy.


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