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Dave stark
Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.06.25 10:11:00 -
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Ghost Xray wrote:Dave stark wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Do you honestly believe nothing will happen? why should anything happen? personally i feel that if CCP takes any action the people involved won't find any kind of net loss as a result of the action, i think the action taken will be to safeguard the FW market to avoid a crash rather than to punish the parties involved. Why don't you start your own "I personally feel" thread and stop crapping up the "I predict" thread. Oh, wait, not only did we already have enough of those, you actually complained about them in this thread. Begone "he who wont heed his own advice and can't understand the OP" poaster.
the thread is already here, may as well respond to it. problem with me voicing an opinion on a public forum? yes? then the door is to the right, please use it. |

Dave stark
Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.06.25 10:15:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Dave stark wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Do you honestly believe nothing will happen? why should anything happen?. You mean besides the fact that they had their faces rubbed in it on General Discussion and to do nothing after that would not make it appear CCP is just a Goonswarm dog, it would be a cold hard fact. These guys blatantly broke the rules and then bragged about it publicly. CCP has to act or it just means that its fair game on any errors they make in following patches with this one used as a precedent of "Hell you let Goons get away with it, why not me?"
they broke no rules what so ever, and then published it to be listened to since their previous views on the potential for exploitation fell on deaf ears.
it is fair game on any error CCP makes as any one was able to do this, except only they did. not to mention, the system was intended to work this way, the numbers were just a bit off.
just because you weren't a part of it you're acting like the kid that got picked last in the football team so you want to go home, with the football. |

Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
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Posted - 2012.06.25 10:16:00 -
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ARGH! PREDICTIONS! CAN'T ANY OF YOU READ!!! EVE shall be purged by fire - please Gods let them ALL burn in Jita. |

Frying Doom
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Posted - 2012.06.25 10:18:00 -
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Dave stark wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Dave stark wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Do you honestly believe nothing will happen? why should anything happen?. You mean besides the fact that they had their faces rubbed in it on General Discussion and to do nothing after that would not make it appear CCP is just a Goonswarm dog, it would be a cold hard fact. These guys blatantly broke the rules and then bragged about it publicly. CCP has to act or it just means that its fair game on any errors they make in following patches with this one used as a precedent of "Hell you let Goons get away with it, why not me?" they broke no rules what so ever, and then published it to be listened to since their previous views on the potential for exploitation fell on deaf ears. it is fair game on any error CCP makes as any one was able to do this, except only they did. not to mention, the system was intended to work this way, the numbers were just a bit off. just because you weren't a part of it you're acting like the kid that got picked last in the football team so you want to go home, with the football. No I was not part of it. I have enough brains to know that exploiting a known and reported bug is an idea only a moron would touch.
And yes look at the rules they have been posted everywhere in the forums, they broke the rules. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Dave stark
Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.06.25 10:19:00 -
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Graic Gabtar wrote:ARGH! PREDICTIONS! CAN'T ANY OF YOU READ!!!
can't you? there's a 150 page long locked thread full of them, along with several other half arsed threads full of the same thing. |

Kimmi Chan
Illuminatus Reforged The Revenant Order
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Posted - 2012.06.25 10:20:00 -
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How big will this thread get before someone else decides to create a new thread about the same thing? How many threads merits a sufficient number of threads about the same thing?
This thread sucks. -á"Miners mine so I don't have to." ~Metal Icarus |

Ghost Xray
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.06.25 10:20:00 -
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Dave stark wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Dave stark wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Do you honestly believe nothing will happen? why should anything happen?. You mean besides the fact that they had their faces rubbed in it on General Discussion and to do nothing after that would not make it appear CCP is just a Goonswarm dog, it would be a cold hard fact. These guys blatantly broke the rules and then bragged about it publicly. CCP has to act or it just means that its fair game on any errors they make in following patches with this one used as a precedent of "Hell you let Goons get away with it, why not me?" they broke no rules what so ever, and then published it to be listened to since their previous views on the potential for exploitation fell on deaf ears. it is fair game on any error CCP makes as any one was able to do this, except only they did. not to mention, the system was intended to work this way, the numbers were just a bit off. just because you weren't a part of it you're acting like the kid that got picked last in the football team so you want to go home, with the football.
Dude, aren't you tired of saying the same thing over and over!? And weren't you arguing with this same guy and saying the exact same thing?
It's boring. I need a ignore function on these forums. o/ |

Dave stark
Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.06.25 10:22:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Dave stark wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Dave stark wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Do you honestly believe nothing will happen? why should anything happen?. You mean besides the fact that they had their faces rubbed in it on General Discussion and to do nothing after that would not make it appear CCP is just a Goonswarm dog, it would be a cold hard fact. These guys blatantly broke the rules and then bragged about it publicly. CCP has to act or it just means that its fair game on any errors they make in following patches with this one used as a precedent of "Hell you let Goons get away with it, why not me?" they broke no rules what so ever, and then published it to be listened to since their previous views on the potential for exploitation fell on deaf ears. it is fair game on any error CCP makes as any one was able to do this, except only they did. not to mention, the system was intended to work this way, the numbers were just a bit off. just because you weren't a part of it you're acting like the kid that got picked last in the football team so you want to go home, with the football. No I was not part of it. I have enough brains to know that exploiting a known and reported bug is an idea only a moron would touch. And yes look at the rules they have been posted everywhere in the forums, they broke the rules.
i really want to reply, but i'll just be repeating the same obviousness that's already been said over and over and over and over.
considering the entire system worked exactly as it was designed to work.... |

Dave stark
Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.06.25 10:23:00 -
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Ghost Xray wrote:Dave stark wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Dave stark wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Do you honestly believe nothing will happen? why should anything happen?. You mean besides the fact that they had their faces rubbed in it on General Discussion and to do nothing after that would not make it appear CCP is just a Goonswarm dog, it would be a cold hard fact. These guys blatantly broke the rules and then bragged about it publicly. CCP has to act or it just means that its fair game on any errors they make in following patches with this one used as a precedent of "Hell you let Goons get away with it, why not me?" they broke no rules what so ever, and then published it to be listened to since their previous views on the potential for exploitation fell on deaf ears. it is fair game on any error CCP makes as any one was able to do this, except only they did. not to mention, the system was intended to work this way, the numbers were just a bit off. just because you weren't a part of it you're acting like the kid that got picked last in the football team so you want to go home, with the football. Dude, aren't you tired of saying the same thing over and over!? And weren't you arguing with this same guy and saying the exact same thing? It's boring. I need a ignore function on these forums. o/
there's only so much that can be said on the topic, ever since about this time yesterday any post on the topic has been saying what has already been said.
also the forum already has an ignore function. |

Russell Casey
Goldbug Inc.
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Posted - 2012.06.25 10:25:00 -
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Goons are the closest thing CCP has to beta testers, so why would they ban them? |

Frying Doom
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Posted - 2012.06.25 10:31:00 -
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Dave stark wrote: considering the entire system worked exactly as it was designed to work....
If that were true they wouldn't have had to patch it or launch a security investigation now would they? Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Killer Gandry
V I R I I Ineluctable.
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Posted - 2012.06.25 10:31:00 -
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Forecast:
They will be keeping part of the gotten ISK. They get a temp ban which wont matter much since their alt accounts are still active. As soon as the accounts that made the ISK are unbanned they go and wait for the next exploit to make ISK of.
CCP will make it look like they did an awesome job in handling it and a lot of Goon(alts) will be posting about how it's all working as intended. A few people will ragequit, but since those are the "pubbies and spergs" and no Goons all is fine.
OR:
Small part of the ISK will get confiscated and part will be hauled over to alts. The characters in this affair get a permaban and the players behind them will buy new characters on the bazaar and still have a nice and hefty wallet result out of it. CCP announces they permabanned the characters and comes out like heroes without upsetting the Goon players and thus they can have a cheerfull rejoice alliance wide.
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Constable Chang
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Posted - 2012.06.25 10:35:00 -
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Marconus Orion wrote:Graic Gabtar wrote:Will CCP blink? Will GS unsub on mass? Goonswarm and their fan base quitting in mass will be a slight hit on CCP's wallet, but the game as a whole will recover nicely and be stronger than ever. Of course half of what I said is my opinion. In all honesty though, CCP could take all the items and perma ban the entire squad of guys who were involved in it and not a single goon would quit over it. After all, this game is all they have.
Either you are being sarcastic or... you don't actually know anything about the Goons?
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Schalac
Apocalypse Reign
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Posted - 2012.06.25 10:36:00 -
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I don't understand where they did something wrong. |

Dave stark
Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.06.25 10:37:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Dave stark wrote: considering the entire system worked exactly as it was designed to work....
If that were true they wouldn't have had to patch it or launch a security investigation now would they? well yes, because they got the sums wrong not because the system was broken. |

Frying Doom
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Posted - 2012.06.25 10:39:00 -
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Constable Chang wrote:Marconus Orion wrote:Graic Gabtar wrote:Will CCP blink? Will GS unsub on mass? Goonswarm and their fan base quitting in mass will be a slight hit on CCP's wallet, but the game as a whole will recover nicely and be stronger than ever. Of course half of what I said is my opinion. In all honesty though, CCP could take all the items and perma ban the entire squad of guys who were involved in it and not a single goon would quit over it. After all, this game is all they have. Either you are being sarcastic or... you don't actually know anything about the Goons? Well at least your not on world of warships yet. But only because it isn't finished. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Frying Doom
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Posted - 2012.06.25 10:40:00 -
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Dave stark wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Dave stark wrote: considering the entire system worked exactly as it was designed to work....
If that were true they wouldn't have had to patch it or launch a security investigation now would they? well yes, because they got the sums wrong not because the system was broken. But if it was working as intended that would mean they didn't get there sums wrong wouldn't it? Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Dave stark
Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.06.25 10:42:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Dave stark wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Dave stark wrote: considering the entire system worked exactly as it was designed to work....
If that were true they wouldn't have had to patch it or launch a security investigation now would they? well yes, because they got the sums wrong not because the system was broken. But if it was working as intended that would mean they didn't get there sums wrong wouldn't it? the system was intended to give you lp for killing things in FW, you got LP for killing things in FW. how is that broken? |

TheGunslinger42
Bite Me inc Exhale.
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Posted - 2012.06.25 10:43:00 -
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lol at people trying to claim this wasn't an exploit. Goons themselves basically reported it as a bug/design flaw and knew it was something CCP would classify as an exploit, then they went ahead and made use of it anyway. |

Frying Doom
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Posted - 2012.06.25 10:44:00 -
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Dave stark wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Dave stark wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Dave stark wrote: considering the entire system worked exactly as it was designed to work....
If that were true they wouldn't have had to patch it or launch a security investigation now would they? well yes, because they got the sums wrong not because the system was broken. But if it was working as intended that would mean they didn't get there sums wrong wouldn't it? the system was intended to give you lp for killing things in FW, you got LP for killing things in FW. how is that broken? As I said above, if it was working properly it would not be exploitable and require a patch now would it? Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Dave stark
Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.06.25 10:47:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:As I said above, if it was working properly it would not be exploitable and require a patch now would it? yet you've still failed to say why it wasn't working properly. |

Frying Doom
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Posted - 2012.06.25 10:51:00 -
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Dave stark wrote:Frying Doom wrote:As I said above, if it was working properly it would not be exploitable and require a patch now would it? yet you've still failed to say why it wasn't working properly. If it was working properly it would not need patching.
If you need to know why it wasn't working properly read some of the 200+ pages on this topic. I and alot of other people have repeatedly said why it wasn't working properly, or just look at the patches or CCP Dev's comments on the matter. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Dave stark
Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.06.25 11:03:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Dave stark wrote:Frying Doom wrote:As I said above, if it was working properly it would not be exploitable and require a patch now would it? yet you've still failed to say why it wasn't working properly. If it was working properly it would not need patching. If you need to know why it wasn't working properly read some of the 200+ pages on this topic. I and alot of other people have repeatedly said why it wasn't working properly, or just look at the patches or CCP Dev's comments on the matter. Or for that matter just look at the post that started it all. He very clearly describes what is wrong and why it was reported to CCP as a bug.
i'm not sure you grasp the subtle difference between the fact that the system was doing what it was supposed to do, however it was the magnitude that was the issue.
it's like a set of brakes on a car being very sharp. you touch them and the car stops; as intended. however if the sharp breaks cause the car to stop at such a rate the driver gets a cracked rib from the seatbelt as he's catapulted forward as the car stops there's clearly an issue.
the breaks are working as intended; they're stopping the car. however they're working too well as the car is stopping too fast. just like the lp formula was handing out too much lp. the system was intended to give out lp, just not *that* much lp.
do you understand the subtle difference?
oh bugger it, ccp just need to hurry the hell up and decide one way or the other so we can all stop going around in circles. asteroid belts have respawned and now i have some thing better to do than go around in circles! |

Frying Doom
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Posted - 2012.06.25 11:08:00 -
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Dave stark wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Dave stark wrote:Frying Doom wrote:As I said above, if it was working properly it would not be exploitable and require a patch now would it? yet you've still failed to say why it wasn't working properly. If it was working properly it would not need patching. If you need to know why it wasn't working properly read some of the 200+ pages on this topic. I and alot of other people have repeatedly said why it wasn't working properly, or just look at the patches or CCP Dev's comments on the matter. Or for that matter just look at the post that started it all. He very clearly describes what is wrong and why it was reported to CCP as a bug. i'm not sure you grasp the subtle difference between the fact that the system was doing what it was supposed to do, however it was the magnitude that was the issue. it's like a set of brakes on a car being very sharp. you touch them and the car stops; as intended. however if the sharp breaks cause the car to stop at such a rate the driver gets a cracked rib from the seatbelt as he's catapulted forward as the car stops there's clearly an issue. the breaks are working as intended; they're stopping the car. however they're working too well as the car is stopping too fast. just like the lp formula was handing out too much lp. the system was intended to give out lp, just not *that* much lp. do you understand the subtle difference? oh bugger it, ccp just need to hurry the hell up and decide one way or the other so we can all stop going around in circles. asteroid belts have respawned and now i have some thing better to do than go around in circles!
I agree a ruling would be nice (but they will take their time) it would save me having to say
A bug is a bug is a bug. Exploiting a known bug is against the rules and should be handled accordingly.
Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Dave stark
Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.06.25 11:09:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Dave stark wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Dave stark wrote:Frying Doom wrote:As I said above, if it was working properly it would not be exploitable and require a patch now would it? yet you've still failed to say why it wasn't working properly. If it was working properly it would not need patching. If you need to know why it wasn't working properly read some of the 200+ pages on this topic. I and alot of other people have repeatedly said why it wasn't working properly, or just look at the patches or CCP Dev's comments on the matter. Or for that matter just look at the post that started it all. He very clearly describes what is wrong and why it was reported to CCP as a bug. i'm not sure you grasp the subtle difference between the fact that the system was doing what it was supposed to do, however it was the magnitude that was the issue. it's like a set of brakes on a car being very sharp. you touch them and the car stops; as intended. however if the sharp breaks cause the car to stop at such a rate the driver gets a cracked rib from the seatbelt as he's catapulted forward as the car stops there's clearly an issue. the breaks are working as intended; they're stopping the car. however they're working too well as the car is stopping too fast. just like the lp formula was handing out too much lp. the system was intended to give out lp, just not *that* much lp. do you understand the subtle difference? oh bugger it, ccp just need to hurry the hell up and decide one way or the other so we can all stop going around in circles. asteroid belts have respawned and now i have some thing better to do than go around in circles! I agree a ruling would be nice (but they will take their time) it would save me having to say A bug is a bug is a bug. Exploiting a known bug is against the rules and should be handled accordingly.
a bug implies there's an unexpected result to an action.
shoot ship, get lp. expected result to an action. *shrug* |

Alexzandvar Douglass
NUTS AND BOLTS MANUFACTURING En Garde
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Posted - 2012.06.25 11:16:00 -
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I think the Goons should be banned just for being dumb enough to mock CCP over it, it's like smoking weed then going up to your parents or the cops and bragging about it, then getting mad when they did not appreciate your genius for avoiding their attention. |

Frying Doom
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Posted - 2012.06.25 11:19:00 -
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Dave stark wrote: a bug implies there's an unexpected result to an action.
shoot ship, get lp. expected result to an action. *shrug*
Shoot own goods in ship, get rewarded more than you loose, unexpected action.*shrug* Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
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Posted - 2012.06.25 11:20:00 -
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Alexzandvar Douglass wrote:I think the Goons should be banned just for being dumb enough to mock CCP over it, it's like smoking weed then going up to your parents or the cops and bragging about it, then getting mad when they did not appreciate your genius for avoiding their attention. I don't know son.
My father was a cop (god bless his bullet ridden soul) and if I went up and told him I was smoking dope he would demand some.
My mother also once made me help her out with a recipe for hash cookies - true story. EVE shall be purged by fire - please Gods let them ALL burn in Jita. |

Frying Doom
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Posted - 2012.06.25 11:21:00 -
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Alexzandvar Douglass wrote:I think the Goons should be banned just for being dumb enough to mock CCP over it, it's like smoking weed then going up to your parents or the cops and bragging about it, then getting mad when they did not appreciate your genius for avoiding their attention. Having seen this in RL with the stoner offering the cop a smoke. I must say the protests he made on getting arrested were as funny as hell. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Frying Doom
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Posted - 2012.06.25 11:24:00 -
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Graic Gabtar wrote:Alexzandvar Douglass wrote:I think the Goons should be banned just for being dumb enough to mock CCP over it, it's like smoking weed then going up to your parents or the cops and bragging about it, then getting mad when they did not appreciate your genius for avoiding their attention. I don't know son. My father was a cop (god bless his bullet ridden soul) and if I went up and told him I was smoking dope he would demand some. My mother also once made me help her out with a recipe for hash cookies - true story. What dirty back water do you live in Indonesia, Paraguay, The Sudan, The United States of America? Where ever it is the police must not have much respect for the law. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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