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Sovox
Amarr Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.22 08:58:00 -
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Edited by: Sovox on 22/01/2010 09:04:20 "I afraid I know nothing"
This was all you needed to post tbh! Really you should have talked with you CEO or Corp members that have a clue.
Sorry if this war has ruined your ratting session's so now you cant get your big shiny new ship or whatever but his sort of thing happens from time to time in 0,0. So i guess we at the NC are at fault for ruining your bear time and not the people reading your post in glee who actually invaded.
The truth about the NC is,if your rats are more important than you allies then good riddance and that goes for any alliance in EVE but when the NC does it then its called a back stab.
But then again you have most of the South on our door step over IT's vendetta With the goons and who are the pets again?? and really the North is a big chunk of space so have fun guys! The further you get the more of us you get. at the end the only thing that will come out of it is some cool video's for you tube.. The real war is gonna be in Delve i don't see why we are pretending the North is actually worth anything. But when you are a pet of the Molle's play ground and burn billions of ISK on a useless war to keep us from helping our allies(Goonies) i dont see how you can call anyone else a Pet!! TRI excluded they are cool dudes who really hate us that much :)and make EVE a better place for us both.
Overall Military Analyst are calling this a better hurry up guys and take what you can before the grid problems get patched and CCP get you s#it together and fix what you broke you could have one the largest wars in EVE history and its gonna suck if you are the ones that cause it to never happen..
<3 Goonies good hunting hope it all gets sorted.. I cant believe it but man i miss the Goonie TS lol..
Last and not least to the OP.. Just get out!!
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Super Twinkey69
Minmatar Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.22 09:01:00 -
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i get it now,i see so many rzr in pb now insted of geminate because....members of the nc like to bear-l0lnc your so funny
thanks for clearinbg this up for us <3 |

Boppi
Amarr Blue Republic
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Posted - 2010.01.22 10:03:00 -
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Originally by: Sovox blurf
I get it now, the south are IT's pets and the north is getting stronger by losing territory instead of bleeding corporations . |

Sareita Nebula
Caldari Bulgarian Experienced Crackers Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.01.22 10:14:00 -
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Originally by: Boppi
Originally by: Sovox blurf
I get it now, the south are IT's pets and the north is getting stronger by losing territory instead of bleeding corporations .
WI. don't wont that 1/3 of their members in less of a month anyway... |

Ap0ll0n
Gallente Lone Star Joint Venture Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.01.22 10:23:00 -
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Originally by: Sareita Nebula
Originally by: Boppi
Originally by: Sovox blurf
I get it now, the south are IT's pets and the north is getting stronger by losing territory instead of bleeding corporations .
WI. don't wont that 1/3 of their members in less of a month anyway...
Dis is true.. |

Vuk Lau
Gallente 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.01.22 11:09:00 -
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Originally by: Sareita Nebula WI. don't wont that 1/3 of their members in less of a month anyway...
Really funny when it comes from the guy whose alliance lost half of its members after losing their carebear heaven, and immediately evaced their space despite giving their word they will fight till the last member/ship for it.
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Rob Repper
Minmatar Silver Snake Enterprise Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.22 11:29:00 -
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Originally by: Caleb Fury I know its just a game. ......
Best Regards -Caleb Fury.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ^∞ |

Super Twinkey69
Minmatar Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.22 11:30:00 -
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Originally by: Vuk Lau
Originally by: Sareita Nebula WI. don't wont that 1/3 of their members in less of a month anyway...
Really funny when it comes from the guy whose alliance lost half of its members after losing their carebear heaven, and immediately evaced their space despite giving their word they will fight till the last member/ship for it.
HEY you there...you dont have time to post on the forums-YOU HAVE MORE FIGHTS TO WIN IN-GAME gogogogogo! seriously tho how do you find time to post between all your coalitions victories....over every fight....all the time.....always....each time....il think of more later.....like in a few hours.....further along in the day..... |

Vasili Z
Minmatar Cosmic Odyssey BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2010.01.22 11:44:00 -
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Originally by: Caleb Fury I was informed today that I was banned from posting on the forums.
Anyone who bans their members from posting is immediately the bad guy. |

mjed mazga
Caldari Reliables Inc Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.01.22 12:39:00 -
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ME sucks (zomg tech moons with small towers, no guns, and no stront! win!), but we didn't want those moons anyway. And maybe the North will burn. I'm still okay being a meatshield.
Keep bringing the good fights. Earn it.
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Waukesha
Amarr Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2010.01.22 13:26:00 -
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Originally by: Tung Yoggi You got it all wrong, you ASKED A SERIOUS QUESTION ON CAOD.
Hint: the Northern Nerds are being invaded by some Southern Nerds & Former Northern Nerds, so you have to fight for your space, along with your allies, some might failcascade in the process, blah blah. It could be really fun if there wasn't this lag issue, but you might get some great fights. Have fun pewpewing.
u nerd
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Sareita Nebula
Caldari Bulgarian Experienced Crackers Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.01.22 13:27:00 -
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Originally by: Vuk Lau
Originally by: Sareita Nebula WI. don't wont that 1/3 of their members in less of a month anyway...
Really funny when it comes from the guy whose alliance lost half of its members after losing their carebear heaven, and immediately evaced their space despite giving their word they will fight till the last member/ship for it.
Confirm that immediately means, stay about a month against 10:1 kill a first MM titan, and be a good neighbor, since then. Yeah i will unsubscribe because of this mighty smack. For sure, evicting a small carebear pet alliance is worthing lost of aoe titan. Also are you guys still itching from inside that we don't lose everything and disband as you wish and expect? Go strategically protect some more moon goo from your allys. |

Micha L
Gallente SRBI Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.01.22 14:09:00 -
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Originally by: Vuk Lau
Originally by: Sareita Nebula WI. don't wont that 1/3 of their members in less of a month anyway...
Really funny when it comes from the guy whose alliance lost half of its members after losing their carebear heaven, and immediately evaced their space despite giving their word they will fight till the last member/ship for it.
LOL Vuk lau( blau sau mau pau)!
Better look where all these corps and members went. Of course they went to yours carebear heaven. Giving passes to pos-s and ts to you just to stay up north and be in belts all day long. You should go to doctor to check you head, all you NC+domestic pets guys have problem with memory loss. We stod and fight even with all of you titan on grid DD-ing us every day(4 titans on 70 man fleet) just lol, but when come to fight non caps I saw you Vuk cloaking 130km from fight leaving your members to die. Let me remind you, after loss of Avatar(famous as Trader da boy Joni) NC order to stop using titans on CO2 becouse its not safe. lol Really funny is thet domestic pets still do not see who you realy are and what are you doing. But in time they will!
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Caleb Fury
Amarr Did I just do that Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2010.01.22 15:46:00 -
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Originally by: Sovox Edited by: Sovox on 22/01/2010 09:32:32
Really you should have talked with you CEO or Corp members that have a clue.
Sorry if this war has ruined your ratting session's so now you cant get your big shiny new ship or whatever but his sort of thing happens from time to time in 0,0. So i guess we at the NC are at fault for ruining your bear time and not the people reading your post in glee who actually invaded.
The truth about the NC is,if your rats are more important than you allies then good riddance and that goes for any alliance in EVE but when the NC does it then its called a back stab.
Overall Military Analyst are calling this a better hurry up guys and take what you can before the grid problems get patched and CCP get you s#it together and fix what you broke you could have one the largest wars in EVE history and its gonna suck if you are the ones that cause it to never happen..
<3 Goonies good hunting hope it all gets sorted.. I cant believe it but man i miss the Goonie TS lol..
Last and not least to the OP.. Just get out!!
You're making a lot of assumptions about me, so I think perhaps maybe it was the way I worded things. When I was referring to rats I was speaking of others people like me in 00 who do that. Anyone who knows me knows I don't rat. I still feel as if LV4 missions in hi-sec are a better deal, hence I don't bother will null-PVE.
The Rats being more important than my allies? The fact of the matter is that a Tech moon overrides everything else in the NC. I can't speak for Razor since the only dealing I've had from you is my killing a ratting Ishtar and the blue standings confusion from a few months back.
As far as asking on CAOD?
I only did that because I got wind of us being asked to head to Pure Blind. I wanted to try to get an answer as I was concerned as to why people were obviously being shuffled around for resourses. I had kept hearing that what had happened to Majesta and WI is nothing new, and that the same had happened to TnT prior. I found it strange that an organization which had been purportedly backstabbed before would still have any association with the NC.
I started random convoing people that were in TnT about when they were in Wicked Creek. The biggest impression I got was a whole lot of people being only a tad bit evasive. I couldn't get a str8 answer from anyone. But no one had an issue asking me to bring a Zealot to a suicide fleet....
When asked about living there, do you know what most people in chat said?
"What difference does it make to be in ROIR. Thats where Tri is anyway so we can't rat or take the moons"
Only alliance leadership from TCF, Morsus, and Razor really care about the fight. If you want to ponder why half the people in select small alliances in the North are all doing anomolies during CTA's perhaps you should ask yourself why.
Most of us "dumb grunts" get the feeling that we are fighting to line someone else pockets.
Thank you again to everyone for all the kind words. I have gotten many Eve mails in game from people wishing me the best of luck. I really appreciate it!
I don't know if posting chatlogs is allowed, but every unfavorable response I've gotten never dealt with the content of my post so much as it was a "You're ruining everything for us. We are trying to land some (guess what) moons and your ******* it up."
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Princess Jodi
Gallente Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.22 16:07:00 -
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Originally by: Sergeant Justice TRI/CO2/ATLAS/SOLAR Happened.
Ya know, the thread should have stopped here.
The simple fact is that no alliance, not even mighty Northern Carebears, can stand up to concerted efforts by multiple alliances every day and every time. Yes, there has been some space losses. Did you expect complete and total victory in a half-hour like some TV SitCom?
To the OP: You may have had good intentions (or been a decent spy troll) when you started this thread, but your concerns are being used by the Enemy as a propaganda tool now. There is reason that most countries do not allow dissent in wartime - and you'll see it if you read this whole thread.
This Space Game is about taking Space. Be a bit boring if you were on the side that always was 'taking' wouldn't it?
Besides, its sweeter to take thing back from the Big Bad Boys that took it from you. Rambo would not have been such a good movie if Stallone just walked into town and got a job at McDonalds, would it?
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Boppi
Amarr Blue Republic
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Posted - 2010.01.22 16:15:00 -
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Originally by: Caleb Fury
I only did that because I got wind of us being asked to head to Pure Blind. I wanted to try to get an answer as I was concerned as to why people were obviously being shuffled around for resourses. I had kept hearing that what had happened to Majesta and WI is nothing new, and that the same had happened to TnT prior. I found it strange that an organization which had been purportedly backstabbed before would still have any association with the NC.
To be fair, the last time TNT got fugged up the ass for being too loyal, it wasn't the NC.
Now on the other hand, everyone who ever was in IRON or PURE, and the good people of The Initiative or Circle of Two might tell you a story or two about the live as a NC-meatshield. ___________________________
1st lol umad? omgwtf! cu on teh battlefield hurfblurf post with ur main derp Toasting in an epic bread hurr |

Sareita Nebula
Caldari Bulgarian Experienced Crackers Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.01.22 16:30:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Jodi
Originally by: Sergeant Justice TRI/CO2/ATLAS/SOLAR Happened.
Ya know, the thread should have stopped here.
The simple fact is that no alliance, not even mighty Northern Carebears, can stand up to concerted efforts by multiple alliances every day and every time. Yes, there has been some space losses. Did you expect complete and total victory in a half-hour like some TV SitCom?
To the OP: You may have had good intentions (or been a decent spy troll) when you started this thread, but your concerns are being used by the Enemy as a propaganda tool now. There is reason that most countries do not allow dissent in wartime - and you'll see it if you read this whole thread.
This Space Game is about taking Space. Be a bit boring if you were on the side that always was 'taking' wouldn't it?
Besides, its sweeter to take thing back from the Big Bad Boys that took it from you. Rambo would not have been such a good movie if Stallone just walked into town and got a job at McDonalds, would it?
It is part of a great anti NC propaganda to make your leadership to fake mails one-sided, to order you to give up from your space, to protect someone else's space and to took the valuable moons for better protection and greater good. Now i can see clearly why when we was in nc we need to travel trough region or two to find some fight and then, nc carriers reped the station because "we disrupt major nc sekrit op" and other complete bullthings. Sure it is all planned back in the dawn of eve. That's why you are gaining a lot of space and get a all possible help which nc can provide.
But yes brainwashing is good for high commanders wallets. Also if Rambo instead of killing all those ppl, just make fake killmails about them. It wont be very good movie ether, but many will laugh on him and will be entertaining.
Sekrit: It is very hard to be ridicule and laugh when you are right without fabricating complete lies. Just search for some island, inches, titan logoff (which NC NEVER did ofc) and so on, and so on. No need to search very deep. --
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fpshacker
Gallente Viper Squad Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.22 16:42:00 -
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imperion wants YOU to defend his personal moons.
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Caleb Fury
Amarr Did I just do that Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2010.01.22 16:45:00 -
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Originally by: fpshacker imperion wants YOU to defend his personal moons.
Dumb Grunt reporting in SIR!!! No no lemme stop. I'm just making fun.
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Sareita Nebula
Caldari Bulgarian Experienced Crackers Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.01.22 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: Caleb Fury
Originally by: fpshacker imperion wants YOU to defend his personal moons.
Dumb Grunt reporting in SIR!!! No no lemme stop. I'm just making fun.
Fun and NC don't mix well. --
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.22 17:00:00 -
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Edited by: Butter Dog on 22/01/2010 17:00:00
Originally by: fpshacker imperion wants YOU to defend his personal moons.
your post would be even better, if you deployed strategically located parentheses
like this
Imperian wants YOU
(to defend his personal moons)
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~bitter dog~
etc |

floridajay
Gallente Smegnet Incorporated Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2010.01.22 17:19:00 -
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Originally by: Kushmir http://bruno.mirror.waffleimages.com/files/7a/7a5d16c50d353329d9fad848daf6c920b17a32e7.jpg[/quote
*note to self nvr open goon links while in class =/ WhAt DiD YoU SaY BoUt My MoMa ?
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Emennt
Caldari SRBI Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.01.22 17:50:00 -
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Originally by: Sovox TRI excluded they are cool dudes who really hate us that much
We really hate you too, seriously
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Sordeo Regius
Gallente Blueprint Haus Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2010.01.22 17:51:00 -
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Originally by: Sergeant Justice TRI/CO2/ATLAS/SOLAR Happened.
I only saw the others AFTER Atlas came in and did the dirty work.
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Marcus Riegn
Minmatar Blue Team
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Posted - 2010.01.22 17:53:00 -
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Man this thread is comedy gold.
To the OP (though you may well be a cunning spy and already know this) CAOD contains nothing but propaganda, any one who says otherwise is trying to sell you something, don't expect strait answers from anyone involved in any kind of war.
Although you may consider your right to post sacred, you still bear responsibility for what you say, and yeah you deserve to be kicked out into the cold for handing your enemies the biggest propaganda piece they've gotten outside of taking geminate (again maybe a spy and this was your intention all along v0v).
If you don't like all this BS, (I don't) I suggest finding a standalone corp that roams or maybe mercs and let's members handle their own finances, and doesn't bother with space. Because in the end, this is a game, and sovereignty is not worth that much bull****.
-don't bother flying safe, it's boring.
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Emennt
Caldari SRBI Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.01.22 17:59:00 -
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Originally by: Vuk Lau Really funny when it comes from the guy whose alliance lost half of its members after losing their carebear heaven, and immediately evaced their space despite giving their word they will fight till the last member/ship for it.
We did fight while we could(2 months or so?), and we did that alone for the most part(only White Noise was helping us from time to time) I live for the day to see how much will MM lose their members when tribute starts to burn
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Rann Antares
Gallente The Knights Templar R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2010.01.22 18:16:00 -
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I rarely post in CAOD for obvious reasons, but this is a good thread. I can see both sides of the argument, however, in defense of the NC, I see it this way: the only way to win a two-front war is to pick a front and win it first. Someone is going to have to make a sacrifice.
Case in point, Axis (mostly Germany) in WWII chose to fight on both fronts. They lost. Allies chose to fight in Europe, in essence, sacrificing the greater Pacific Rim to the Japanese until victory in Europe, then came back to retake the lost ground in the Pacific. Otherwise, today, the world might be a very different place.
I'm just putting a historical perspective into the justification of the NC's strategy given it's strategic position, all propaganda aside. And it's all propaganda, given the point of view you choose to see it from.
Just a grunt,
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Too Ducky
Caldari Did I just do that Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2010.01.22 18:19:00 -
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Confirming the OP will NOT be kicked.
This thread raises some valid questions which both sides can put their side across to deal with the points easily enough. It's not as if the issues contained in here are not covered in multiple other threads on the first page in any event.
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Myz Toyou
Minmatar APOCALYPSE LEGION
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Posted - 2010.01.22 18:20:00 -
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Originally by: Emennt
Originally by: Vuk Lau Really funny when it comes from the guy whose alliance lost half of its members after losing their carebear heaven, and immediately evaced their space despite giving their word they will fight till the last member/ship for it.
We did fight while we could(2 months or so?), and we did that alone for the most part(only White Noise was helping us from time to time) I live for the day to see how much will MM lose their members when tribute starts to burn
They will cover that up with the next step in CoreNC`s masterplan:
All pilots from WI./ME/TNT/MH with more then 20 kills in the last 30days have to join a MM corp, if you don`t do it within 3 days you will get kicked out of the NC.
Your glorious leader Vuk Lau
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Ein Spiegel
Minmatar SPORADIC MOVEMENT Cult of War
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Posted - 2010.01.22 18:20:00 -
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To the OP: Thank you for being a sane, rational individual trying to understand the mechanics of Alliance political maneuvering in Eve Online.
As many other people have said, the answer to "What's Happened?" is the same sad story that seems to exist in Geminate since capsuleers have lived there. I've started likening war in Geminate to the infamous "land war in Asia".
To the replies the very "internet spaceships is srs bsnss" replies, talking about "propoganda" and "spies" and such...
BAH!!! Look, it's a game. It's a fun game, war. And I'm fighting on "my" side because I like to see things blow up. Sometimes it's enemies, sometimes it's me. Y'know what? I still enjoy it. Moon goo doesn't enter into my equations. I've got money from other means, because wars are good for the economy. Holding space? Yeah, not my concern. Feeding "propoganda" to the enemy?
Look, I'm part of the "enemy". And I don't give one flying rat's ass about what you lot are posting in CAOD. What I care about is getting in my ship, hitting space, and getting into fights. Whether it's an organized CTA, or just farting around and bleeding you out one ship at a time... what you say here on CAOD simply DOES NOT MATTER.
What I've seen here is someone that thinks he or his corp could be getting the shaft, and trying to get an answer. Because, y'know, leadership is always forthcoming. When asked directly. And certainly they wouldn't be doing something like what he is suggesting. (Despite it being the norm for anyone holding space in Geminate for a loooong time.) He's looking at it from a grunt's perspective. What benefit is he getting out of this? What benefit is his corp and alliance getting out of this? Seriously, if leadership is just going to herd you together to throw you at the enemy with no chance of victory, you should ask these kinds of questions.
I'm a simple man. I like cheap things... gunpowder, dynamite, gasoline. I like things to go boom. So I'm pretty much covered no matter where I go, or why I might be there. But it's the people you're flying with that make it worthwhile. I think maybe people that ban you from posting on the forum, and get ****ed off about a question they could have answered before you got to the forums, might not be a great fit for you.
Feel free to say hey if you decide to bail. Of course, odds are you wouldn't get in during wartime (well, the spies point at least has some validity) but there's all kinds of people out there.
Also... moo.
(Confirming this may **** off Bobby Atlas. But, y'know, I have a mind. And don't really care, as long as he still gets me fights.)
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