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Spurty
Caldari
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.24 20:18:00 -
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lol what a laugh.
 Originally by: Hurley
I WAS NOT QUITTING SoT AND WAS NOT THINKING ABOUT JOINING IT. PL/SoT MADE A MISTAKE AND ARE NOT MAN ENOUGH TO ADMIT IT OR FIX IT.
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Di Mulle
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Posted - 2010.01.24 20:19:00 -
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Edited by: Di Mulle on 24/01/2010 20:19:27
Originally by: Alexeph Stoekai
Alien as the concept might seem to you, there are tactics and strategies available beyond marching straight into the other force. If I couldn't split the enemy force, lead them to divide, lure them into situations that favoured my fleet, distract them by striking their own territory, force them to detach parts of their fleet for sieges or pick them apart before their fleet can even assemble, I would probably be forced to engage them head-on. However, in doing so I would be perfectly aware of the near-fact that it will cripple or even kill the node, and I wouldn't go and cry about it on the forum.
Don't get me wrong, I would also like to see a game entirely free from lag where you people can smash any amounts of things together (mmm... increase in demand), but until that day comes I'm afraid there are certain limitations in place - and events like these that come with those.
It is pretty nice to make clever face and develop armchair strategies. However, the very need for that is negated by the fact that pre-Dominion 1000+ fights were at least manageable. Not even speaking that post-Dominion even 300+ fights are pretty much dead.
Of course, current situation is good opportunity for armchair generals - "I told you so!". That is what they play for.
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Spurty
Caldari
Rionnag Alba
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.24 20:24:00 -
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lolz @ armchair generals.
The new I WIN PVP in EVE is "put 1400 people into a system and circle jerk knowing full well, no one else is going to be able to do anything" and it always works.
CCP, this is a fair analysis of your game, 24th January 2009.
Gratz!
Whoever is in p-2 at this time, have fun, we'll do it all again tomorrow I bet.
Originally by: Hurley
I WAS NOT QUITTING SoT AND WAS NOT THINKING ABOUT JOINING IT. PL/SoT MADE A MISTAKE AND ARE NOT MAN ENOUGH TO ADMIT IT OR FIX IT.
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bloody johnroberts
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.01.24 20:29:00 -
[34]
lol you have to laugh when you read this
The issue you are reporting is under investigation. If possible, our server administration team will resolve the matter for all pilots involved globally depending on the results of their investigation.
Unfortunately we are currently unable to move anyone due to these issues, our sincerest apologies for the inconvenience.
go dominion
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Amerilia
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Posted - 2010.01.24 20:42:00 -
[35]
Why does not play?
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.01.24 20:48:00 -
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Originally by: Jamus Gorrelius
The point of the fact is this, before dominion large fleet battles were pretty stable440 v 400 was easily doable.
atm there is lag with as little as 100 people is system, all were asking is that we could have our game back the way it was before dominion.
The new sov mechanics need alliances to field large fleets, but atm we cant.
end off
Quoting one of the guys I was hoping to shoot at tonight for truth.
When large coalitions contest, there will be huge space battles. Each of our coalitions has about 15,000 members. I dont think ~500 each - that's 3% or our respective memberships - is an unreasonable number to expect us to bring.
if CCP want us to bring smaller numbers then they need to radically change the way sovereignty is calculated, and I'm not sure how. I'm not even sure that there is some magic system that would make smaller fleet better than a larger fleet. But requiring people to shoot structures with 112M HP most definitely isn't it.
As it is, this is already the first real 2-front war, so the battles are actually considerably smaller than they could have been.
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Vereesa
Gallente
THORN Syndicate
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2010.01.24 20:48:00 -
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Yay! first time since dominion I'm in a capital fleet like the one shown in the trailer. Then NODE CRASH! Even before that I tried to shoot something and my guns get jammed for as long as the battle was going until the node crashed.
Been trying to log in for two hours since the node CAME UP and still nothing. Thanks CCP for the great expansion. |
Inturist
FSB-ALFA
RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2010.01.24 20:51:00 -
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LOL , i got killed 8 min ago , sweet 
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WhiteSavage
Ever Flow
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.24 20:53:00 -
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Originally by: Alexeph Stoekai
Originally by: Edible Bandaid
SO your saying every time the enemy showed up with 400+ you would not engadge? So as you lose your moons/station/sov to 400 man blobs, while your 500 man fleets mined veldspar to death, who would the "smart" tactician be?
Lol gawd
Alien as the concept might seem to you, there are tactics and strategies available beyond marching straight into the other force. If I couldn't split the enemy force, lead them to divide, lure them into situations that favoured my fleet, distract them by striking their own territory, force them to detach parts of their fleet for sieges or pick them apart before their fleet can even assemble, I would probably be forced to engage them head-on. However, in doing so I would be perfectly aware of the near-fact that it will cripple or even kill the node, and I wouldn't go and cry about it on the forum.
Don't get me wrong, I would also like to see a game entirely free from lag where you people can smash any amounts of things together (mmm... increase in demand), but until that day comes I'm afraid there are certain limitations in place - and events like these that come with those.
See unfortunately while that sounds great, it is not a valid tactic whatsoever in most cases. For example, atm NC is being invaded by tri, based out of NPC space, and Atlas who is basing 60 jumps from their home and rolling through another 30 to get to Pure blind. There are ALREADY 2 fronts. The NC cannot counter both, so they are focusing on one. Are you suggesting the NC should stop defending their home and instead siege NPC stations? Or are you saying they should go 80 jumps to invade Atlas space while the rest of eve slaughters their sov?
Your plans dont make sense, and are not applicable at all to 0.0 warfare/the mechanics ccp has provided us.
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cuchuliann
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Posted - 2010.01.24 20:53:00 -
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Edited by: cuchuliann on 24/01/2010 20:55:35
Edited by: cuchuliann on 24/01/2010 20:54:59
Originally by: bloody johnroberts
lol you have to laugh when you read this
The issue you are reporting is under investigation. If possible, our server administration team will resolve the matter for all pilots involved globally depending on the results of their investigation.
Unfortunately we are currently unable to move anyone due to these issues, our sincerest apologies for the inconvenience.
go dominion
So from what i understand, they can't solve the problem due to this issue.
Sounds like they would need to restart the whole server then.
Doubt they would do that, because apparently there is a new player record beeing broken at this time aswell.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1256753
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Laviski
UK Corp
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2010.01.24 20:54:00 -
[41]
*clap*
*clap*
*clap*
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Athalwolf
More-Cowbell
Cult of War
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Posted - 2010.01.24 20:55:00 -
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And here we go again, 2nd node crash!!!
Weeeeeeeee!
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caos11
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Posted - 2010.01.24 20:57:00 -
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Originally by: Stringoula
The last 2 hours im trying to log in, no luck, nice gameplay, ccp failed one more time.
lucky you, me just only for 3 hous
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Camios
Minmatar
Insurgent New Eden Tribe
Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.24 20:58:00 -
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Edited by: Camios on 24/01/2010 21:01:04
While there are a lot of techincal issues that CCP must fix to reduce lag (many agrees on apocrypha bening better), unless we change game mechanic we won't solve the problem.
Blob and focus fire are a winning tactic in the current mechanic.
Once we change the mechanic so that it doesn't encourage blobbing, we will have fixed lag forever.
Here is my analysis and proposal. Please contribute and give advices to this thread.
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Alexeph Stoekai
Stoekai Corp
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Posted - 2010.01.24 21:10:00 -
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Edited by: Alexeph Stoekai on 24/01/2010 21:10:53
Originally by: WhiteSavage
See unfortunately while that sounds great, it is not a valid tactic whatsoever in most cases. For example, atm NC is being invaded by tri, based out of NPC space, and Atlas who is basing 60 jumps from their home and rolling through another 30 to get to Pure blind. There are ALREADY 2 fronts. The NC cannot counter both, so they are focusing on one. Are you suggesting the NC should stop defending their home and instead siege NPC stations? Or are you saying they should go 80 jumps to invade Atlas space while the rest of eve slaughters their sov? .
Congrats on finding a specific scenario to debunk one of the strategies I suggested.
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WhiteSavage
Ever Flow
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.24 21:16:00 -
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Originally by: Alexeph Stoekai
Edited by: Alexeph Stoekai on 24/01/2010 21:10:53
Originally by: WhiteSavage
See unfortunately while that sounds great, it is not a valid tactic whatsoever in most cases. For example, atm NC is being invaded by tri, based out of NPC space, and Atlas who is basing 60 jumps from their home and rolling through another 30 to get to Pure blind. There are ALREADY 2 fronts. The NC cannot counter both, so they are focusing on one. Are you suggesting the NC should stop defending their home and instead siege NPC stations? Or are you saying they should go 80 jumps to invade Atlas space while the rest of eve slaughters their sov? .
Congrats on finding a specific scenario to debunk one of the strategies I suggested.
No, its the scenario that WE ARE TALKING ABOUT. Its what is happening RIGHT NOW. The same one that you are saying "your own fault for blobbing!." That is why you are making yourself look silly. Understand the situation before you judge.
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Dsan
Smegnet Incorporated
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2010.01.24 21:24:00 -
[47]
D-GTMI just crashed aswell, 1400 seems to be where the pain starts... or 1200 in engagement...
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evs
Genco
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.24 21:34:00 -
[48]
d-g sort of back up, but extremely laggy now
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LordSwift
Caldari
Swift Industries Inc
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Posted - 2010.01.24 21:36:00 -
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So none of you decided to fill out a fleet fight notification form then? To give ccp an advance warning that their is going to be fighting in this system. And dont tell me that a planned move of that many ships was just a random choice
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Dsan
Smegnet Incorporated
Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2010.01.24 21:41:00 -
[50]
there has been more than 4 node crashes after DT today, as far as I know. not sure if anyone notified about D-GTMI engagement, but I can only imagine PXF did it yesterday after D-GTMI was reinforced.
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IsoMetricanTaliac 2
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2010.01.24 21:52:00 -
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It is all good & great for CCP to prattle about how they are trying to fix the issue yet there it still is even worse than I know I can ever remember it being.
Well I guess there is one thing we can say for sure, that is that this time CCP have really out-done even themselves...
Not happy, not impressed, considering not continuing subscription once the ones I currently have run out if nothing gets any better by that time as I can stare at a blank screen for free.
In a Time When Many Will Seek Death, There Will Always Be Those Like Me Who Won't Mind Helping Them Along Their Way!?! |
db T
M. Corp
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2010.01.24 21:58:00 -
[52]
Originally by: LordSwift
So none of you decided to fill out a fleet fight notification form then? To give ccp an advance warning that their is going to be fighting in this system. And dont tell me that a planned move of that many ships was just a random choice
P-2TTL node was reinforced but thanks for stopping by.
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Cheeba Don
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
C0LD Fusion
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Posted - 2010.01.24 22:08:00 -
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p-2 is up again and just about to die again. been sitting in unresponsive ship for an hour now...
* golf claps!
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PALIDIN TURLISK
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Posted - 2010.01.24 23:45:00 -
[54]
Originally by: MrBinary
Originally by: PALIDIN TURLISK
I hope we didnt create a black whole that gobbled up all our characters. 
A whole what?
oops lol "hole"
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raukosen
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Posted - 2010.01.24 23:47:00 -
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it seems nobody can leave p-2 
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Dalieus Dakarn
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2010.01.24 23:59:00 -
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Originally by: Alexeph Stoekai
Originally by: Edible Bandaid
SO your saying every time the enemy showed up with 400+ you would not engadge? So as you lose your moons/station/sov to 400 man blobs, while your 500 man fleets mined veldspar to death, who would the "smart" tactician be?
Lol gawd
Alien as the concept might seem to you, there are tactics and strategies available beyond marching straight into the other force. If I couldn't split the enemy force, lead them to divide, lure them into situations that favoured my fleet, distract them by striking their own territory, force them to detach parts of their fleet for sieges or pick them apart before their fleet can even assemble, I would probably be forced to engage them head-on. However, in doing so I would be perfectly aware of the near-fact that it will cripple or even kill the node, and I wouldn't go and cry about it on the forum.
Don't get me wrong, I would also like to see a game entirely free from lag where you people can smash any amounts of things together (mmm... increase in demand), but until that day comes I'm afraid there are certain limitations in place - and events like these that come with those.
Buwahahahaha....
Attempt to divide their forces. Wow. You can tell that you've never even been in a 0.0 war. The enemy will not "divide their forces" for anything if they are already engaged in a confrontation. If you have 400 people fighting 200, and 200 more start shooting your pos a couple systems over, you will pound that 200 man fleet with everything you have, and then go pound the 200 people attacking your POS. It does not make sense to split your fleet to go after something else when you already hold the tactical advantage. There is never any way that you can kill a fleet "before it assembles." They will be sitting at a POS inside the shields waiting for the fleet to amass, unless they have a station to dock at.
IF the NC were to attack the people's own territory, they would lose their land before they could even get back to defend it. "OH MY GOD, Someone's burning down my house! Quick, let's to their house 2 states away, so we can get them to leave!"
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Dirk Culliford
H A V O C
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.01.25 00:01:00 -
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Originally by: Alexeph Stoekai
Oh god, one of our idiot-sinks out in nullsec is clogged... now we'll have to endure crap like this thread until someone can flush the tanks.
You stuff 1000+ people on a node that isn't Jita and then act surprised when it crashes? Please spare us your complaints.
He's right! We should arrange to duke it out using Jita next time
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Olivor
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Posted - 2010.01.25 00:07:00 -
[58]
Welcome to Royston Vasey...
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fpshacker
Gallente
Viper Squad
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.25 00:33:00 -
[59]
ccp, you may want to actually learn how to become pr0 coders. Here is the stackless python site. You may want to start off learning the basics.
http://code.google.com/p/stacklessexamples/wiki/StacklessExamples
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UVPhoenix2
The Scope
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Posted - 2010.01.25 00:40:00 -
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I'm glad we have threads like this.
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