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Aineko Macx	Posted - 2010.01.27 14:14:00 - [91] So, when will you release patch 127381?
Rediar Etile	Posted - 2010.01.27 14:24:00 - [92] Yup, only 2 1/2 hours before test and it is saying that am not compatible. Good job CCP! Maybe it's a limited test with only Goons and IT allowed! Rediar
Boppi Blue Republic	Posted - 2010.01.27 14:37:00 - [93] Edited by: Boppi on 27/01/2010 14:38:10 The same bunch of empire*g0ts who only expirience lag when visiting jita will come to the testserver, led by the same **ed Faction War-FCS to die hilariously. Just as it always does. NOBODY CARES ANYMORE CCP Just look what's currently going on and you will eventually notice that all the big fights have already stopped. Nobody cares anymore to engange into big fights only to die in a fire thanks to lag. the spastic server already goes emo with 200 people in local WHAT THE . And while everyone who fought and died in 0.0 thanks to your **edness is pretty much fed up with this , nobody will show up an help you because everybody here has lost the last bits of trust in you we may have had. Because you monkeys have literally no ing idea whats going on on your server, so why even bother? You are going on ignoring all petitions about the endless number of bugs and literally ting in the face of the people in 0.0 and still think anybody cares. Just go ** yourselves. ___________________________ 1st lol umad? omgwtf! cu on teh battlefield hurfblurf post with ur main derp Toasting in an epic bread hurr
Grace Kemp Gallente Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2010.01.27 14:39:00 - [94] New patch is up and works.
Lothran T'hrekkar	Posted - 2010.01.27 15:43:00 - [95] Cant download the Sisi patch! Thank u, CCP!
Grace Kemp Gallente Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2010.01.27 15:51:00 - [96] I can, where's your problem? If the autoupdater doesnt work try to load it manually from here (latest) http://www.eveonline.com/patches/patches.asp?s=singularity
TAPAKALLIKA	Posted - 2010.01.27 15:52:00 - [97] USE From 126344 to 127381 version update For WIN users http://content.eveonline.com/test/evepremiumpatch126344-127381_m.exe
j3bus Point Blank. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2010.01.27 16:04:00 - [98] Account xxxxxx has been disabled Last Login: 2009.09.27 17:09 Number of Visits: 3452 reason: Account subscription expired! High five, way to go CCP!
TacticalNuclearPenguin	Posted - 2010.01.27 16:28:00 - [99] Originally by: Grace Kemp I can, where's your problem? If the autoupdater doesnt work try to load it manually from here (latest) http://www.eveonline.com/patches/patches.asp?s=singularity Yeah, can't download the patch because that particular site is down. Excellent work CCP
Los Lecrosis	Posted - 2010.01.27 16:38:00 - [100] Originally by: Sawyer LaFleur I understand that there will be technological glitches in ambitious expansion of unparalleled numbers of players interacting at once with complex algorithms being processed for each ... but, the way the system fails is absolutely appalling to me. Its that people can be shot at while their clients are unresponsiveà ItÆs that sovereignty structures can still be damaged while large numbers of people in a system have the systems unresponsive. Any approach to fixing lag really needs to implement some sort of feedback loop with clients openà to know how the lag is effecting clients open (there must be a way to freeze play temporarily in a node to query clients in a node minimally functioning mode and give a warning timer of when play will resumeàor options for mass retreatsàduring periods where there are logged on but un-responsive clientsà ) Basically if one side canÆt play no-one should play in that system. It could mean that game mechanics need to be altered in some rough way to prevent a planed blob and crash being a military strategy, and IÆd leave that to other more experienced players to work out detailsà. Certainly there still need to be dynamics for less skilled, shorter term players from overcoming play differentials with numbers too though, especially on a defensive level. à but as it is the priorities arenÆt set rightà to just work on lag incrementally and allow the status quo to continue doesnÆt bump the issue to the top burner. In the meantime, many players like myself will really be stand-offish about getting involved in a game where months of in game effort will be lost based upon technological glitches. YouÆll limit the game base to subscribers who are ok with thatà and those people donÆt care and will be the ones sticking around giving you feedback, and youÆll lose hundreds of thousands more potential long term subscribers like myself , perhaps a broader audience of people less committed to the rules of mmorgs and more accustomed to rules of fair play in sport, adults who donÆt want their recreational activities wrapped up in that sort of bs. ( I donÆt know a single person in RL who plays mmorgs, and as a real estate broker, father , soccer coach etc, I defitely interact with hundres of peole .. some probably do but I donÆt know it though) I agree 100% with Everything this poster said. CCP needs to consider the very real investments players make in Sov, capital ships, multiple accounts... for the players that are the ones in the giant fleet battle's i'd wager that many of them are sending a LOT of real cash to CCP, for multiple account subscriptions, GTC and PLEX purchases, etc... CCP, to me, seems like they are attacking the problems, but need to IMMEDIATELY implement a system to protect people who have clients that are logged in, and unresponsive. I cant even count the times that I have died due to lag, or a black screen, or a complete disconnect, or the CCPEXEFILE.EXE has stopped responding in the middle of a fleet battle.. Cmon CCP, fix the major issues before giving us any more shiney planets, or new fighter bomber toys! Im all for innovation, but the QC is EXTREMELY Lacking in this game. Sincerely, Los

Dierdra Vaal Caldari Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2010.01.27 16:38:00 - [101] Edited by: Dierdra Vaal on 27/01/2010 16:47:11 cant d/l the patch... anyone has a mirror? edit: I guess we can just use the auto patcher :) Director of Education :: EVE University
TacticalNuclearPenguin	Posted - 2010.01.27 16:47:00 - [102] Simply setting the shortcut path to sisi and the auto-downloading the patch worked for me.
Latex Sandals	Posted - 2010.01.27 16:58:00 - [103] You know, when you are going to run this type of testing, you really should have your server patched the day before. I (like many people I suspect) logged on last night to ensure that I was up-to-date and patched ready to go. What do I find when I come to log in this morning? Wow, a new patch!
Vossejongk Caldari Bendebeukers Green Rhino	Posted - 2010.01.27 17:17:00 - [104] Tried to download patch - failed not going to download again another 2.5 gb for full sisi client Why not just have a select server option in the login screen. But then again I cant really approve of any of this because this is my signature
Nojick Deist	Posted - 2010.01.27 17:46:00 - [105] I patched for the Sisi client last night. Tried to log onto it this morning to see what I can do to get ready. Saw the patch, and it told me I can't log in without updating. I updated, and it switched it back to Tranquility with incompatibility. I tried to reinstate the Sisi patch, and the patch wouldn't reinstall to the new version. Had to delete and start over (I haven't patched Tranquility yet) and I still can't play unless I update, and the loop continues. Great, I was hoping to participate today. Looking at everyones posts, I'm sure I'm not the only one.
Ephemeral Waves Federation of Freedom Fighters	Posted - 2010.01.27 18:03:00 - [106] Edited by: Ephemeral Waves on 27/01/2010 18:04:44 Edited by: Ephemeral Waves on 27/01/2010 18:04:08 Originally by: Nojick Deist Great, I was hoping to participate today. Looking at everyones posts, I'm sure I'm not the only one. You didn't miss anything. We warped to a gate and were told not to shoot anybody. A bunch of people shot us anyway. Both gangs warped to another gate and were told to jump through - got traffic control. We were told in local again not to shoot anybody and to have all of our mods turned off. We jumped through on orders (traffic control) and sat there for 10minutes while the other gang (?) took pot shots at us while CCP told our gang not to shoot anybody. Somehow, I got gang warped 200km above the gate (no gang warp message, no align time, and only 5-8 other ships warped, and none of them were in my squad). Still sat there with no instructions from CCP. Finally a BH says in local that we should duke it out. I warped back to the gate, turned mods on, started orbiting a support target but got "your ship is realigning it's magnetic field" when I tried to lock a target. Right-click menu stopped working and I couldn't rotate the camera or give any orders to the ship. With no further instructionsn from CCP, I logged off. If you're going to run these kinds of tests, you need to give people instructions.
Dierdra Vaal Caldari Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2010.01.27 18:15:00 - [107] according to the devs they got useful data :) Director of Education :: EVE University
Jasper Mieville Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn	Posted - 2010.01.27 18:16:00 - [108] Considering, that the test was intended to investigate Lag, I call it a Major success. The devs wanted Lag, we delivered. I just hope it was enough data to solve the problem.
Boppi Blue Republic	Posted - 2010.01.27 18:16:00 - [109] Originally by: Ephemeral Waves You didn't miss anything. We warped to a gate and were told not to shoot anybody. A bunch of people shot us anyway. Both gangs warped to another gate and were told to jump through - got traffic control. We were told in local again not to shoot anybody and to have all of our mods turned off. We jumped through on orders (traffic control) and sat there for 10minutes while the other gang (?) took pot shots at us while CCP told our gang not to shoot anybody. Somehow, I got gang warped 200km above the gate (no gang warp message, no align time, and only 5-8 other ships warped, and none of them were in my squad). Still sat there with no instructions from CCP. Finally a BH says in local that we should duke it out. I warped back to the gate, turned mods on, started orbiting a support target but got "your ship is realigning it's magnetic field" when I tried to lock a target. Right-click menu stopped working and I couldn't rotate the camera or give any orders to the ship. With no further instructionsn from CCP, I logged off. If you're going to run these kinds of tests, you need to give people instructions. That pretty much sounds like 0.0 actually, except nobody is shooting there because of module lag. ___________________________ 1st lol umad? omgwtf! cu on teh battlefield hurfblurf post with ur main derp Toasting in an epic bread hurr

CCP Tanis	Posted - 2010.01.27 18:34:00 - [110] We'd like to extend our gratitude to all those who participated in today's test! We were able get a very good reproduction of the issue on Sisi and gathered some very good data about the lag issues; which we will be spending the next days pouring over to try and isolate the cause of the problem. Rest assured we've got our best people on this issue and we will keep at it until we've solved it. ____________________________ I break thingsÖ CCP Tanis - EVE Quality Assurance\|EVE Live Team CCP Games


Phantom Slave JUDGE DREAD Inc.	Posted - 2010.01.27 19:18:00 - [111] Originally by: CCP Tanis We'd like to extend our gratitude to all those who participated in today's test! We were able get a very good reproduction of the issue on Sisi and gathered some very good data about the lag issues; which we will be spending the next days pouring over to try and isolate the cause of the problem. Rest assured we've got our best people on this issue and we will keep at it until we've solved it. As requested I ran Logserver in the background with the Sisi testing (while I was there, I had to leave early). Do we need to file bug reports to get you the data, or do you not need client side information?
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2010.01.27 20:40:00 - [112] Originally by: Ephemeral Waves If you're going to run these kinds of tests, you need to give people instructions. Sounds like they did give you instructions. The problem it seems is that people wanted to shoot each other rather than follow them. Remember this was a test to figure out where the bad code was and not a real fleet op so certain parts would be drawn out a bit as they collect data. If they were not overly verbal it was because they were doing things like reading the results of the programs they set up to analyze the data stream and discussing it between themselves. Sorry that being a tester isn't all fun and games. Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu The only thing separating us from frightened, feral monkeys is running water on tap, fuel in the tank, and current in our wall sockets.
Spc One Gallente	Posted - 2010.01.27 21:49:00 - [113] Edited by: Spc One on 27/01/2010 21:52:38 Originally by: CCP Tanis We'd like to extend our gratitude to all those who participated in today's test! We were able get a very good reproduction of the issue on Sisi and gathered some very good data about the lag issues; which we will be spending the next days pouring over to try and isolate the cause of the problem. Rest assured we've got our best people on this issue and we will keep at it until we've solved it. I am glad i could help you out. Here are my statistics: --System--: Windows Server 2008 R2 Datacenter (64bit) MSI P45 Platinum 8GB Corsair DOMINATOR DDR-2 @ 1034MHz Radeon 4870 1GB Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650 @ 3.5GHz Intel PRO/1000 MT Dual Port Server Adapter Creative X-FI Elite Pro (Sound Enabled) --Stats--: Shadows Enabled Resource Cache Enabled HDR Enabled Boom: none Shader Quality: High Texture Quality: High LOD Quality: High Interval Immediate ---------------- Minimum FPS: 3.5 Maximum FPS: 25.5 Average FPS: 20
Xandor M	Posted - 2010.01.27 21:58:00 - [114] It would be nice if for events like this, the mirror was actually updated to one less than a month old. It sucks when you log on expecting to do some testing with expensive stuff only to find your skills with said stuff on sisi are half your skills on tq, and i'm talking 10-25 day skills here.
gamarus Ridiculously Proposed Guildname	Posted - 2010.01.27 22:03:00 - [115] Originally by: Xandor M It would be nice if for events like this, the mirror was actually updated to one less than a month old. It sucks when you log on expecting to do some testing with expensive stuff only to find your skills with said stuff on sisi are half your skills on tq, and i'm talking 10-25 day skills here. It would, but usually they only mirror sisi in the days up to a major patch/update, simply because it takes _minimum_ half a day to do.
Miklas Laces tr0pa de elite Triumvirate.	Posted - 2010.01.27 23:28:00 - [116] Originally by: CCP Tanis I'll use this opportunity to bring up that though this particular test doesn't require too many people (only 100+), we will certainly be running more tests to isolate the causes of the current lag on TQ; however, those will require far higher numbers of pilots in order to replicate the behavior that we're seeing on TQ. We have had issues in the past trying to get more than 200 pilots who actually show up, so we will be trying to find new ways to get players into Sisi for these bigger tests. Details are still being worked out, but we're still feverishly working away at this issue in the meantime. We'll be releasing more info about the larger scale testing soonÖ. Why do you need players help, cant you run 100 eve clients in your damn software company ? ________________________________________________ CCP Claw > Sokata has been destroyed for boundary violation Drug Kito > Sokata you'll always be remembered as a noob in history of alliance tourname
ArtemonV01	Posted - 2010.01.28 03:31:00 - [117] to CCP Tanis: I have several bugs during this test and want to report about them. I have logserver file more then 2 MB (13 MB zip) and can't upload it. Can you help me with this.
Caladain Barton Navy of Xoc Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2010.01.28 05:18:00 - [118] Originally by: CCP Tanis We'd like to extend our gratitude to all those who participated in today's test! We were able get a very good reproduction of the issue on Sisi and gathered some very good data about the lag issues; which we will be spending the next days pouring over to try and isolate the cause of the problem. Rest assured we've got our best people on this issue and we will keep at it until we've solved it. If you want to replicate the large fleet battles, You know where to find me and Others, and you know what has to be done. The testing done may have shown where the laggy code is..but you didn't recreate the issue. No one black screened and failed to load. Doesn't mean you didn't find a problem, but you can't be happy you didn't replicate it, eh? If you want a full, NC CTA, you're going to have to freeze Sov for a couple hours, have the patch ready to go so we can spam our members to install it, pick a weekend, and pick a time. We'll pull a full CTA..everything and the kitchen sink and show you exactly the issues currently existing with whatever manner of logger running, and without shooting each other or goofing off, by recreating the situations exactly. If CCP does this, i'd invite Atlas and friends, and Tri and Friends to come as well..do it pro, do it right, and after they've collected their data, we can go at each other. And FFS...we'll open a TS server and get everyone on it with a 0.0 FC team...TS/Vent=WIN. Eve Voice=Fail.
Psychotic Maniac Caldari Head Shrinkers	Posted - 2010.01.28 09:01:00 - [119] Originally by: CCP Tanis We were able get a very good reproduction of the issue on Sisi and gathered some very good data about the lag issues; which we will be spending the next days pouring over to try and isolate the cause of the problem. Rest assured we've got our best people on this issue and we will keep at it until we've solved it. I sure hope those aren't the same people that tell me it didn't show up in the logs.
Sombike Caldari Enterprise Estonia Cult of War	Posted - 2010.01.28 11:44:00 - [120] Imo, if u cant do fleet pvp in 0.0 come to empire and do it here. Fleet 1 : 20 torp ravens Fleet 2 : 1 freighter ??? Profit Lag in 0.0 has a preeeeety good impact on suicide ganking ;) I have never had a signature before, is it any good?



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