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Bedrock
Minmatar Viper Squad Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.26 09:01:00 -
[121]
is this happening cause...i just jump cloned to 319
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Devilish Ledoux
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.26 09:05:00 -
[122]
Out of the ashes of the sovereignty bug, first come sorrow, then anger.
Scavok > The only good clown is a dead clown!
The Goonswarm leadership council met moments ago in NOL, where Skymarshall Phreeze delivered an address:
Phreeze > We must meet this threat with our courage, our valor, indeed with our very lives to ensure that Goon civilization, not clown, dominates this galaxy, now and always!"
Skymarshall Phreeze calls for a defensive mobilization in 1-S, source of the clown infestation!
Would you like to know more?
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Bedrock
Minmatar Viper Squad Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.01.26 09:12:00 -
[123]
Originally by: Devilish Ledoux
Phreeze > We must meet this threat with our courage, our valor, indeed with our very lives to ensure that Goon civilization, not clown, dominates this galaxy, now and always!"
How many inches in a galaxy?
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Serj Darek
Minmatar Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2010.01.26 09:19:00 -
[124]
Originally by: Bedrock
Originally by: Devilish Ledoux
Phreeze > We must meet this threat with our courage, our valor, indeed with our very lives to ensure that Goon civilization, not clown, dominates this galaxy, now and always!"
How many inches in a galaxy?
Is galaxy a nickname for an orifice?
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Rek Esket
Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.26 09:24:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Serj Darek
Originally by: Bedrock
Originally by: Devilish Ledoux
Phreeze > We must meet this threat with our courage, our valor, indeed with our very lives to ensure that Goon civilization, not clown, dominates this galaxy, now and always!"
How many inches in a galaxy?
Is galaxy a nickname for an orifice?
Anything more than six inches and I start to find it uncomfortable.
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Olivor
Caldari Alcatraz Inc. Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2010.01.26 09:35:00 -
[126]
Ahahahaha
Die in a fire.
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Gryphonus
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.26 09:36:00 -
[127]
Originally by: Bedrock is this happening cause...i just jump cloned to 319
Yes, you can commence with your stupid undock games for the next two weeks.
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Serizawa Kaho
Minmatar I.M.M Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.26 10:23:00 -
[128]
Edited by: Serizawa Kaho on 26/01/2010 10:24:40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lpcEJ92ZbU
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Serj Darek
Minmatar Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2010.01.26 10:26:00 -
[129]
Originally by: Serizawa Kaho Edited by: Serizawa Kaho on 26/01/2010 10:24:40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lpcEJ92ZbU
I don't know what's funnier, the video or the fact that you had the url within arm reach.
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Hideous Minx
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.26 10:42:00 -
[130]
ccp it's been so many hours why won't you respond to our petitions
don't abandon us ccp
noooo
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Malcanis
Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.01.26 10:42:00 -
[131]
You gave Phreeze roles, didn't you?
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Serj Darek
Minmatar Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2010.01.26 10:44:00 -
[132]
Originally by: Hideous Minx ccp it's been so many hours why won't you respond to our petitions
don't abandon us ccp
noooo
Did you open up a "stuck" petition or the correct options?
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Sir Ector
Amarr Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.26 10:52:00 -
[133]
I feel for ya, goons.
Unfortunately, since CCP has, by all outward actions we have to interpret them by, decided to divorce themselves from any kind of quality assurance what-so-ever, it seems unlikely you'll get anything back.
And for the people saying that the Haargoth flip was anything like this, you're just grasping. Haargoth had the right roles to do what he did, in a game where it is explicitly stated that these actions are allowed to happen and will not be overturned. To paraphrase a dev, CCP never had any intention of making breach of trust a petitionable issue.
Haargoth, a player, ****ed BoB, using a known and entirely preventable game mechanic. CCP just ****ed Goonswarm with either a bug or an unknowable mechanic.
It's too bad people let their spaceship-based animosity get in the way of leveling blame at a company which, if allowed to continue getting away with this ****, will eventually come up with a way to destroy the work of any arbitrary alliance, including your own.
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Vashan Tar
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.26 10:54:00 -
[134]
Originally by: Bedrock
How many inches in a galaxy?
19.7
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Clinically
Gallente ANZAC ALLIANCE IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.26 11:00:00 -
[135]
Better get my suit cleaned, as it looks like iT has a reservation at a table in NOL 
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Serj Darek
Minmatar Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2010.01.26 11:01:00 -
[136]
Originally by: Sir Ector I feel for ya, goons.
Unfortunately, since CCP has, by all outward actions we have to interpret them by, decided to divorce themselves from any kind of quality assurance what-so-ever, it seems unlikely you'll get anything back.
And for the people saying that the Haargoth flip was anything like this, you're just grasping. Haargoth had the right roles to do what he did, in a game where it is explicitly stated that these actions are allowed to happen and will not be overturned. To paraphrase a dev, CCP never had any intention of making breach of trust a petitionable issue.
Haargoth, a player, ****ed BoB, using a known and entirely preventable game mechanic. CCP just ****ed Goonswarm with either a bug or an unknowable mechanic.
It's too bad people let their spaceship-based animosity get in the way of leveling blame at a company which, if allowed to continue getting away with this ****, will eventually come up with a way to destroy the work of any arbitrary alliance, including your own.
I don't think anyone is disputing that the disband was not an exploit, but yet another ****ty game mechanic. Wiping out thousands of man hours with a click or a messed up wallet division is a pretty ****ty mechanism. I have said it before, I think both examples are wrong since the purpose of null-sec politics is pvp. Anything that causes more fighting is good, but not this ****.
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Sir Ector
Amarr Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.26 11:10:00 -
[137]
Originally by: Serj Darek I don't think anyone is disputing that the disband was not an exploit, but yet another ****ty game mechanic. Wiping out thousands of man hours with a click or a messed up wallet division is a pretty ****ty mechanism. I have said it before, I think both examples are wrong since the purpose of null-sec politics is pvp. Anything that causes more fighting is good, but not this ****.
You should read this thread again, about half the posts are comparing this wallet malfunction (or whatever it is) to Haargoth's conversion.
And you can say it's a ****ty mechanic, what Haargoth did, and I wouldn't entirely disagree, but that's really not the issue at all. At issue is any available avenue for prevention, any way to limit the damage done by a player, or chance, or whatever comes along.
BoB was given this option, and they let Haargoth, an inactive member for many months, retain the roles necessary to do what he did. Goonswarm, in this case as it seems at the moment, were given no such options.
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Nicholas Barker
Caldari Black Nova Corp IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.26 11:12:00 -
[138]
Edited by: Nicholas Barker on 26/01/2010 11:15:15
Originally by: Sir Ector I feel for ya, goons.
Unfortunately, since CCP has, by all outward actions we have to interpret them by, decided to divorce themselves from any kind of quality assurance what-so-ever, it seems unlikely you'll get anything back.
And for the people saying that the Haargoth flip was anything like this, you're just grasping. Haargoth had the right roles to do what he did, in a game where it is explicitly stated that these actions are allowed to happen and will not be overturned. To paraphrase a dev, CCP never had any intention of making breach of trust a petitionable issue.
Haargoth, a player, ****ed BoB, using a known and entirely preventable game mechanic. CCP just ****ed Goonswarm with either a bug or an unknowable mechanic.
It's too bad people let their spaceship-based animosity get in the way of leveling blame at a company which, if allowed to continue getting away with this ****, will eventually come up with a way to destroy the work of any arbitrary alliance, including your own.
Wait until you know the full story before mouthing off, that and/or come try to help your goon overlords out.
Originally by: Sir Ector Goonswarm, in this case as it seems at the moment, were given no such options.
Well, they might have, we don't know yet. If it was a wallet thing they'll of had plenty of chances to pick somebody competent. ------
0800-LAG-A-NODE
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Prognosys
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.26 11:13:00 -
[139]
Edited by: Prognosys on 26/01/2010 11:17:11
Originally by: Nicholas Barker
Originally by: Sir Ector I feel for ya, goons.
Unfortunately, since CCP has, by all outward actions we have to interpret them by, decided to divorce themselves from any kind of quality assurance what-so-ever, it seems unlikely you'll get anything back.
And for the people saying that the Haargoth flip was anything like this, you're just grasping. Haargoth had the right roles to do what he did, in a game where it is explicitly stated that these actions are allowed to happen and will not be overturned. To paraphrase a dev, CCP never had any intention of making breach of trust a petitionable issue.
Haargoth, a player, ****ed BoB, using a known and entirely preventable game mechanic. CCP just ****ed Goonswarm with either a bug or an unknowable mechanic.
It's too bad people let their spaceship-based animosity get in the way of leveling blame at a company which, if allowed to continue getting away with this ****, will eventually come up with a way to destroy the work of any arbitrary alliance, including your own.
Wait until you know the full story before mouthing off, that and/or come try to help your goon overlords out.
yeah man multiple alliances all failing to pay bills at the same time is totally within the realm of possibility
ccp ****ing an upgrade up massively? perish the thought
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thearrowofapollo
Gallente Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.01.26 11:17:00 -
[140]
goons didnt want that space anyway amrite????      
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Zedic
Amarr Universalis Imperium
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Posted - 2010.01.26 11:18:00 -
[141]
This is crappy F'ed up game mechanics. Wrong and ******ed. And no, I'm no fan of teh goons. Which to them probably means I would be. Or something. In goon land. Lord. I need a shower... 
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Gnulpie
Minmatar Miner Tech
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Posted - 2010.01.26 11:21:00 -
[142]
Originally by: Sir Ector Haargoth, a player, ****ed BoB, using a known and entirely preventable game mechanic. CCP just ****ed Goonswarm with either a bug or an unknowable mechanic.
And how do you know this?
How do you know that there was enough isk in the right wallet division? How do you know that the sov bill was paid? How do you know that not some director messed up? How do you know that it wasn't some intentional act by some annoyed person with the access rights?
How do you know all that so that you can be sure it was a bug and not some accident or intention? |

Myz Toyou
Minmatar APOCALYPSE LEGION
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Posted - 2010.01.26 11:22:00 -
[143]
In bfore Goons claiming it was all: Because of T20
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Forlorn Wongraven
Caldari Universal Army Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.01.26 11:27:00 -
[144]
Oh wait, snap! Will Goons "bug" safe D-G? They must be blue with CVA.
Happily remembering that CCP has no tools to "fix" sov. ____________________ We are the Ushra'Khan, and we come for our people. |

drall
Gallente Isk Rogue Elements.
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Posted - 2010.01.26 11:28:00 -
[145]
It could very well be a bill issue.. and its only 3 alliances m8 if it was a massive bug it would be a lot more than 3. all the tcu's that ccp placed that you never moved vs all the ones you actually moved. both of which are different bill timers and would require different pay dates. that being said, the time index of when you lost sov was the exact time dominion launched. So theirs only 2 possible reasons, a bug, or someone forgot to click apply autobillpay to the correct wallet division in the wallet.
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Woofybean
Minmatar Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2010.01.26 11:29:00 -
[146]
Nar, that fight in NOL just before DT was great. Short, but absolutely awesome. It was good to finally have a good old fashioned slug fest for all the blue balls that has been going on both sides.
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Cors
Gallente It's A Trap
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Posted - 2010.01.26 11:38:00 -
[147]
Edited by: Cors on 26/01/2010 11:39:09
Originally by: Noxidc Edited by: Noxidc on 26/01/2010 06:21:24How is it that Delve Sov falls and 3 'red' alliance fleets are already formed up ready to strike and invade?
Dunno about you, but when I log off my Cap pilot, I fuel/stront up my dread BEFORE I log off. That way when I get a txt message/email/evemail/phonecall, I can just log on, undock, join gang, and jump.
It usually takes me longer to find out what system we're jumping too, then find out what fleet it is, then find out who's got a cyno in system and so on, then it does to log in, and be ready to jump.
Isn't it the boy scout, cub scout, eagle scout, whatever scout motto to always be prepared?
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GunnerySergeant Blair
Caldari Fairlight Corp Rooks and Kings
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Posted - 2010.01.26 12:03:00 -
[148]
The night was a bit boring tho, R&k capfleet was ready to support IT and then nothing really happens :-/
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Mark Hadden
Amarr Intergalactic Serenity Ev0ke
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Posted - 2010.01.26 12:25:00 -
[149]
reading CAOD while eating my lunch is a funny thing. Thank you - great thread!!!!1
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Timmpa
Minmatar Unknown Soldiers Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.01.26 12:31:00 -
[150]
Edited by: Timmpa on 26/01/2010 12:33:22
Originally by: Sir Ector I feel for ya, goons.
Unfortunately, since CCP has, by all outward actions we have to interpret them by, decided to divorce themselves from any kind of quality assurance what-so-ever, it seems unlikely you'll get anything back.
And for the people saying that the Haargoth flip was anything like this, you're just grasping. Haargoth had the right roles to do what he did, in a game where it is explicitly stated that these actions are allowed to happen and will not be overturned. To paraphrase a dev, CCP never had any intention of making breach of trust a petitionable issue.
Haargoth, a player, ****ed BoB, using a known and entirely preventable game mechanic. CCP just ****ed Goonswarm with either a bug or an unknowable mechanic.
It's too bad people let their spaceship-based animosity get in the way of leveling blame at a company which, if allowed to continue getting away with this ****, will eventually come up with a way to destroy the work of any arbitrary alliance, including your own.
Is it hard to breathe with your head that far up Goons ass??
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