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Herty Amarr The Sexy Carebear Boredom Convention	Posted - 2010.01.26 04:57:00 - [1] It all started when I was bored and decided to make a name for myself. I thought that what could be better then getting spys in most if not all the major alliances and taking out their sov. Unfortunately I am not that good so you guys will have to do for now. Don't feel bad though you are not the only ones in this situation others will come when the moment is right. Other then that have fun and enjoy empire. And for those of you who don't get it I got a spy in their alliances and got rid of their space. Fun times.
Nicholas Barker Caldari Black Nova Corp IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.01.26 05:00:00 - [2] troll? also, reserved. ------ 0800-LAG-A-NODE
Kieselguhr Kid Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2010.01.26 05:02:00 - [3] I'm sorry for your thread
Niker Belli Gallente Bluebird Wing	Posted - 2010.01.26 05:07:00 - [4] wut?
PieceOfMind Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2010.01.26 05:09:00 - [5] posting privileges revoked. please see mother for details
Herty Amarr The Sexy Carebear Boredom Convention	Posted - 2010.01.26 05:15:00 - [6] Originally by: PieceOfMind posting privileges revoked. please see mother for details Its just some space no reason to cry about it.
Absolute Clarity Caldari Goon Deposit Insurance Corporation GoonSwarm	Posted - 2010.01.26 05:32:00 - [7] Didn't want those 30 systems anyway.
Doctor Ungabungas Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2010.01.26 05:32:00 - [8] Goonswarm sov was dropped by Karttoon so that we can put all of our legendary weight behind the program known as Jihadswarm.
7sunami Amarr Evolution IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.01.26 05:47:00 - [9] did someone forget to make sure their wallet have enough to cover sov bills
Douglas Pearce Caldari Music Martinis and Misanthropy	Posted - 2010.01.26 05:53:00 - [10] Originally by: 7sunami did someone forget to make sure their wallet have enough to cover sov bills yase, in 3 alliances simultaneously. your mama should be proud. ----------- I disagree
Hellfury Resurrected Caldari Incura	Posted - 2010.01.26 06:02:00 - [11] is bad thread imo -------------------------------------------
Hapachu Caldari Dominus Imperium Primary.	Posted - 2010.01.26 06:11:00 - [12] Thanx for the great night of fun.........was good times -/^$! them up on the aftermath!!! My hat comes of to u my good sir!!!
7sunami Amarr Evolution IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.01.26 06:17:00 - [13] Originally by: Douglas Pearce Originally by: 7sunami did someone forget to make sure their wallet have enough to cover sov bills yase, in 3 alliances simultaneously. your mama should be proud. Yes, only 3 alliances, but not the others. The problem becomes more apparent to those alliances who have most of their TCU run by one corp. They need billions sitting in their wallet if they have autopay set. If you have 100+ tcu's bills all dued at once (or close to each other) and no isk in wallet....failure cascade I looked at http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Legion_of_xXDEATHXx/changes http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/GoonSwarm/changes http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Wildly_Inappropriate./changes http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Mostly__Harmless/changes Most of the sov lost happen to one corp
Meno Theaetetus Gallente Wildly Inappropriate Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2010.01.26 06:23:00 - [14] There is only one cat alive with director roles in WIdot holding corp.
Edna Sputum Caldari Blueprint Haus Get Off My Lawn	Posted - 2010.01.26 07:33:00 - [15] Originally by: 7sunami Edited by: 7sunami on 26/01/2010 06:18:37 Originally by: Douglas Pearce Originally by: 7sunami did someone forget to make sure their wallet have enough to cover sov bills yase, in 3 alliances simultaneously. your mama should be proud. Yes, only 3 alliances, but not the others. The problem becomes more apparent to those alliances who have most of their TCU run by one corp. They need billions sitting in their wallet if they have autopay set. If you have 100+ tcu's bills all dued at once (or close to each other) and no isk in wallet....failure cascade I looked at http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Legion_of_xXDEATHXx/changes http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/GoonSwarm/changes http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Wildly_Inappropriate./changes Most of the sov lost happen to one corp Thing is, i doubt that three corps in three alliances, would lose sov on the same day at the exact same time? Its possible explanation, but i don't think that is IT.... If it is IT, then I wonder would not having enough cash to covers SOV mean they would lose only some systems or all systems? You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be misquoted and used against you.
Verite Rendition Caldari F.R.E.E. Explorer	Posted - 2010.01.26 07:41:00 - [16] Originally by: Edna Sputum Originally by: 7sunami Edited by: 7sunami on 26/01/2010 06:18:37 Originally by: Douglas Pearce Originally by: 7sunami did someone forget to make sure their wallet have enough to cover sov bills yase, in 3 alliances simultaneously. your mama should be proud. Yes, only 3 alliances, but not the others. The problem becomes more apparent to those alliances who have most of their TCU run by one corp. They need billions sitting in their wallet if they have autopay set. If you have 100+ tcu's bills all dued at once (or close to each other) and no isk in wallet....failure cascade I looked at http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Legion_of_xXDEATHXx/changes http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/GoonSwarm/changes http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Wildly_Inappropriate./changes Most of the sov lost happen to one corp Thing is, i doubt that three corps in three alliances, would lose sov on the same day at the exact same time? Its possible explanation, but i don't think that is IT.... If it is IT, then I wonder would not having enough cash to covers SOV mean they would lose only some systems or all systems? Keep in mind that the way the billing system works, systems that already had sov when Dominion kicked in all became due at the exact same time. This lines up pretty well with when billing became active - IIRC it was on a Tuesday. ---- FREE Explorer Lead Megalomanic EVE Null-Sec Player Influence Map http://dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/Veritefw/FWinf
Edna Sputum Caldari Blueprint Haus Get Off My Lawn	Posted - 2010.01.26 07:52:00 - [17] Originally by: Verite Rendition Originally by: Edna Sputum Thing is, i doubt that three corps in three alliances, would lose sov on the same day at the exact same time? Its possible explanation, but i don't think that is IT.... If it is IT, then I wonder would not having enough cash to covers SOV mean they would lose only some systems or all systems? Keep in mind that the way the billing system works, systems that already had sov when Dominion kicked in all became due at the exact same time. This lines up pretty well with when billing became active - IIRC it was on a Tuesday. This is true, but only half of it, if there was not enough cash in the corp wallet to cover SOV would it fail all payments or would it pay off systems in a certain order until the ISK ran out? You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be misquoted and used against you.
drall Gallente Isk Rogue Elements.	Posted - 2010.01.26 07:57:00 - [18] Originally by: Edna Sputum Originally by: Verite Rendition Originally by: Edna Sputum Thing is, i doubt that three corps in three alliances, would lose sov on the same day at the exact same time? Its possible explanation, but i don't think that is IT.... If it is IT, then I wonder would not having enough cash to covers SOV mean they would lose only some systems or all systems? Keep in mind that the way the billing system works, systems that already had sov when Dominion kicked in all became due at the exact same time. This lines up pretty well with when billing became active - IIRC it was on a Tuesday. This is true, but only half of it, if there was not enough cash in the corp wallet to cover SOV would it fail all payments or would it pay off systems in a certain order until the ISK ran out? I believe the systems that were lost are the ones that were on the original timer day 1 dominion. which explains why all the sov wasn't dropped.
Verite Rendition Caldari F.R.E.E. Explorer	Posted - 2010.01.26 08:13:00 - [19] Originally by: drall Originally by: Edna Sputum Originally by: Verite Rendition Originally by: Edna Sputum Thing is, i doubt that three corps in three alliances, would lose sov on the same day at the exact same time? Its possible explanation, but i don't think that is IT.... If it is IT, then I wonder would not having enough cash to covers SOV mean they would lose only some systems or all systems? Keep in mind that the way the billing system works, systems that already had sov when Dominion kicked in all became due at the exact same time. This lines up pretty well with when billing became active - IIRC it was on a Tuesday. This is true, but only half of it, if there was not enough cash in the corp wallet to cover SOV would it fail all payments or would it pay off systems in a certain order until the ISK ran out? I believe the systems that were lost are the ones that were on the original timer day 1 dominion. which explains why all the sov wasn't dropped. No, he's right. There are a number of Goon systems held by their holding corp which still have sov and pre-date Dominion. ---- FREE Explorer Lead Megalomanic EVE Null-Sec Player Influence Map http://dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/Veritefw/FWinf
drall Gallente Isk Rogue Elements.	Posted - 2010.01.26 08:46:00 - [20] Yes but the systems your speaking of goons unanchered the tcu's and moved them thus changing the bill timer on them.
Verite Rendition Caldari F.R.E.E. Explorer	Posted - 2010.01.26 09:04:00 - [21] Originally by: drall Yes but the systems your speaking of goons unanchered the tcu's and moved them thus changing the bill timer on them. Has this been confirmed? And it's my knowledge that you can't move a TCU without resetting the timer. AFAIK Dotlan's data should reflect any periods of non-sov, even momentarily. ---- FREE Explorer Lead Megalomanic EVE Null-Sec Player Influence Map http://dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/Veritefw/FWinf
Varrakk Caldari Phantom Squad Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.01.26 09:09:00 - [22] Ownership could be transferred to a different corp without re-onlining it.
drall Gallente Isk Rogue Elements.	Posted - 2010.01.26 09:12:00 - [23] Originally by: Verite Rendition Originally by: drall Yes but the systems your speaking of goons unanchered the tcu's and moved them thus changing the bill timer on them. Has this been confirmed? And it's my knowledge that you can't move a TCU without resetting the timer. AFAIK Dotlan's data should reflect any periods of non-sov, even momentarily. to answer your question i'm currently flying around delve in the systems that still have sov. Thus far the tcu's are at pos's meaning they were moved. But i can't yet confirm all remaining sov is the same.
Verite Rendition Caldari F.R.E.E. Explorer	Posted - 2010.01.26 09:21:00 - [24] Originally by: drall Originally by: Verite Rendition Originally by: drall Yes but the systems your speaking of goons unanchered the tcu's and moved them thus changing the bill timer on them. Has this been confirmed? And it's my knowledge that you can't move a TCU without resetting the timer. AFAIK Dotlan's data should reflect any periods of non-sov, even momentarily. to answer your question i'm currently flying around delve in the systems that still have sov. Thus far the tcu's are at pos's meaning they were moved. But i can't yet confirm all remaining sov is the same. If you look at the station system of 7UTB-F for example, it has a strategic index of 5, so it has had sov for 100+ days. This is a system that was held by the Goon holding corp, so it should have fallen like the rest since they shouldn't have been able to move the TCU. ---- FREE Explorer Lead Megalomanic EVE Null-Sec Player Influence Map http://dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/Veritefw/FWinf
Doctor Penguin Amarr Sacred Templars Black Swan.	Posted - 2010.01.26 09:45:00 - [25] If this ends up sticking after DT, does that mean we get to see the world's longest "Sov Lost" column on Verite's map?
Verite Rendition Caldari F.R.E.E. Explorer	Posted - 2010.01.26 09:47:00 - [26] Originally by: Doctor Penguin If this ends up sticking after DT, does that mean we get to see the world's longest "Sov Lost" column on Verite's map? No. BoB's was bigger. http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Verite/20100126EE.png ---- FREE Explorer Lead Megalomanic EVE Null-Sec Player Influence Map http://dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/Veritefw/FWinf
Han Lector Amarr Griefer-B-Gone Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.01.26 09:54:00 - [27] To the Goons: Next time send the ISK to me, I will make sure all your bills are paid.
Devroush Caldari Sidclan	Posted - 2010.01.26 10:15:00 - [28] Edited by: Devroush on 26/01/2010 10:15:11 Originally by: Verite Rendition Originally by: Doctor Penguin If this ends up sticking after DT, does that mean we get to see the world's longest "Sov Lost" column on Verite's map? No. BoB's was bigger. http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Verite/20100126EE.png Think you got the wrong one there http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Verite/20090205SE.png
Eklykti Caldari Zion foundation Red Alliance	Posted - 2010.01.26 11:22:00 - [29] I heard that this was really a bug, but it will not be fixed because too many alliances and solar systems are affected. Will it be fixed if 25% of the affected alliances' members click the 'Cancel Subscription' button? What about 50%?
Sareita Nebula Caldari Bulgarian Experienced Crackers Circle-Of-Two	Posted - 2010.01.26 11:42:00 - [30] Originally by: Eklykti I heard that this was really a bug, but it will not be fixed because too many alliances and solar systems are affected. Will it be fixed if 25% of the affected alliances' members click the 'Cancel Subscription' button? What about 50%? If this is true, someone ppl from ccp must lose their jobs. Despite that some of those alliance aren't very fond to my heart and this don't make me sad, if this is a bug this is really going out of control. If it is a same human error then this will be another epic part of history of the game. But yeah, I am "sure" that the dev's will give a official answer quickly. --

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