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Ranger 1 Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Vertigo Coalition	Posted - 2010.02.05 21:20:00 - [1] Edited by: Ranger 1 on 05/02/2010 21:23:51 T1 frigate < Navy Frigate < T2 Frigate < Pirate Frigate. This is exactly, precisely how the frigate class was intended to be balanced with the last patch according to CCP. The only controversy that I see is that 1 or 2 of the faction frigate may need a minor tweak here and there to bring them in line with the Dramiel and Daredevil. To put it another way, assuming equal pilot skill and equipment, an interceptor or assault frigate is INTENDED to be at a disadvantage against a pirate faction frigate. Stop your belly aching and read the Dev Blog that specifically describes why Navy and Pirate faction ships were balanced (in relation to T1 and T2) the way that they were. You will find it quite enlightening. ===== If you go to Za'Ha'Dum I will gank you.
Ranger 1 Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Vertigo Coalition	Posted - 2010.02.05 21:44:00 - [2] Originally by: Deva Blackfire Originally by: Ranger 1 Stop your belly aching and read the Dev Blog that specifically describes why Navy and Pirate faction ships were balanced (in relation to T1 and T2) the way that they were. You will find it quite enlightening. You mean the same blog which states that Worm is a-ok friog wheras we repedeately told CCP its sub-par to AFs and not even close to other pirate frigs? Also that blog didnt state how much better pirate frigs should be, just that they should be step forward. Even after losing some speed or midslot dramiel still will be OP compared to most AFs, just not that much OP. Yes Deva, that blog exactly. Which is why I specifically said: Quote: The only controversy that I see is that 1 or 2 of the faction frigate may need a minor tweak here and there to bring them in line with the Dramiel and Daredevil. As was pointed out in the post above, we all know that AF's have a boost coming. Why would they balance Pirate Faction frigs against the current AF's and then have to do it all over again after the AF boost. ===== If you go to Za'Ha'Dum I will gank you.
Ranger 1 Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Vertigo Coalition	Posted - 2010.02.05 23:01:00 - [3] Originally by: Deva Blackfire Edited by: Deva Blackfire on 05/02/2010 22:43:31 Originally by: Liang Nuren Deva... AFs are complete crap to start with. Please don't balance pirate frigs against ships that have been known to suck for years. If you are concerned about AF balance, ask for an AF boost. -Liang Im glad you totally ignored 2nd line of what i wrote. Even excluding AFs: dramiel is too good. If you drop one of its midslots OR drop speed it will STILL be the best frig out there. Thats how good it is. As for AFs, sure i want boost. But not ****ed "lets give them all some random idiot-resistant bonus like web immunity, neut immunity or uber-AB speeds". Tho i already posted this in proper sub-forum. Quote:** As was pointed out in the post above, we all know that AF's have a boost coming. Why would they balance Pirate Faction frigs against the current AF's and then have to do it all over again after the AF boost. Maybe because CCP is known for doing changes which get obsolete with next patch/expansion? Very true, but lets not critisize them for thinking ahead this time. In my neck of the woods we are starting to see Dramiel gangs flitting about. To be perfectly honest they are no more difficult to deal with that standard ceptor gangs, and loot is much more lucurative. I have a feeling somebody has been listening to the opinions in this thread, decided to take advantage of the ships "superiority", and is now realizing the error of their ways. ===== If you go to Za'Ha'Dum I will gank you.
Ranger 1 Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Vertigo Coalition	Posted - 2010.02.06 18:55:00 - [4] Originally by: Deva Blackfire Originally by: Liang Nuren Originally by: Kadesh Priestess Say, i invest 300m into an interceptor for a decent fitting - i still can't kill dramiel. What i'm doing wrong? That part. You know, the part where the Dramiel is supposed to be better. -Liang So dramiel is supposed to be better because it costs more than other frigs. At the same time it supposed to be better than more expensive ships well... because its dramiel. Lol. No, because it is supposed to be better than a ceptor. I really don't know why you have a problem understanding that Deva. The only thing left is to tweak a couple of the others up to the Dramiels level. You aren't saying anything that hasn't been said about the Crow or the Taranis when they were top of the heap. ===== If you go to Za'Ha'Dum I will gank you.

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