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RubyPorto SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT 2134	Posted - 2012.06.26 02:49:00 - [1] - Quote At least the CCL (forum mods). The ISDs are fine in the rookie/help chats (though they give terrible advice and don't know the mechanics they're trying to explain). This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody.
RubyPorto SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT 2134	Posted - 2012.06.26 02:57:00 - [2] - Quote Jason Marshall wrote: recreated I'd be fine with not. It's still the type of people who Volunteer at a For-Profit This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody.
RubyPorto SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT 2134	Posted - 2012.06.26 03:07:00 - [3] - Quote Karl Hobb wrote: Cutter Isaacson wrote: I am pretty certain that this is not the petition section of the forums. However if you feel strongly enough about this, perhaps you should send an email to the appropriate people. You may find these links helpful Rules and Policies About contacting customer support Website terms of use agreement Hopefully that helps. Bucking for a position on the ISD? He already has one. [/tinfoil] This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody.
RubyPorto SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT 2134	Posted - 2012.06.26 03:12:00 - [4] - Quote Celeste Taylor wrote: Morganta wrote: you are losing more money than you are saving Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think ISDs are paid, they are volunteers. Thus "saving money" at the expense of alienating their players. This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody.
RubyPorto SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT 2135	Posted - 2012.06.26 03:37:00 - [5] - Quote Information Agent wrote: Blame those 'power mad players' for the crap that everyone has to endure, don't blame the volenteers who try to help people for free. To be honest, the playerbase/forum warriors of this game need a good clip around the ear and told to grow the heck up, half these a-holes are likely in their 30-40's, about time they acted it tbqh. ISD guys, as a man helping a much younger relative into EVE I've seen you guys in the rookie channel, always helpful, always trying to ease new people into this harsh game with friendly encouragement, I can do little else but applaud you for your dedication and enthusiasm for this game and its growing community. Dont let the asshats get you down, one day, their parents will kick them out and then they'll find being on the streets at the tender age of 37 and being led down a dark alley by 'shirley the burly moustache atired ungentleman' isn't as fun as it sounds and crying 'DERP' will only confuse and enrage shirley into a 'no foreplay' frenzy. The ISDs in Rookie and Help chats are great (I mean, it's great that they volunteer, and their hearts are in the right place, they're not actually that good at giving good advice that I've seen). The CCL ISDs who moderate the forums are the problem. This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody.
RubyPorto SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT 2135	Posted - 2012.06.26 03:43:00 - [6] - Quote Information Agent wrote: Jason Marshall wrote: No you cant say that. The ISD Forum moderators could be 6 month old power hungry twats. But volunteering for additional power around the forums doesn't seem very selfless to me. We aren't mad that they are moderating we are mad because its so arbitrary and their isn't a clear guide they are following. Again we cant be sure they all just arent really good at writing applications. Doesnt mean they know **** about eve or the community. Well, theres the thing, I'm almost 100% positive that both the ISD forum mods and the in game help guys are all bound to the same rules and codes of conduct. I always try to lean towards 'they did it because they wanted to help' since theres no monetry or physical reward involved, but I concour that I could be wrong about that for maybe a few that are just 'bad apples' and they hide it. To be honest, additional 'power' in a forum doesnt sound like power to me, sounds like unpaid work. This sort of situation is a complicated one, but hopefully someone in the know will be able to put the whole thing straight. One has power over the Forums and only has a mandate to moderate. One has power over the Rookie/Help channels and a mandate to help. Give a man a Hammer, yadda yadda yadda. This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody.
RubyPorto SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT 2135	Posted - 2012.06.26 03:44:00 - [7] - Quote Cutter Isaacson wrote: Joe Everyguy wrote: I'm not convinced that Cutter Isaacson ISN'T an ISD alt. Because I'm not **** posting and actually have a decent command of the English language? I'm just tired of seeing the same 4 or 5 names popping up on the front page of the forums whining about how they are a special little snowflake and how the big bad nasty ISD people are locking their content free crap threads. If they hadn't been locking/editing our content-filled posts, we wouldn't have started this. This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody.
RubyPorto SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT 2136	Posted - 2012.06.26 04:04:00 - [8] - Quote Information Agent wrote: RubyPorto wrote: Cutter Isaacson wrote: Joe Everyguy wrote: I'm not convinced that Cutter Isaacson ISN'T an ISD alt. Because I'm not **** posting and actually have a decent command of the English language? I'm just tired of seeing the same 4 or 5 names popping up on the front page of the forums whining about how they are a special little snowflake and how the big bad nasty ISD people are locking their content free crap threads. If they hadn't been locking/editing our content-filled posts, we wouldn't have started this. Most of the threads that got locked were random garbage at best, the others degenerated into random garbage after a few replies which was a shame as some actually had some interesting posts in. If there was any valid 'content' in there though its headed the same way as the 'outrage over goons exploit' threads, probably 4 pages back by now. Yep. That's been intentional. But was the newbie asking for help with the Character creator worthy of getting his thread locked before he got his question answered? That's what threw gasoline on all of this. This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody.
RubyPorto SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT 2136	Posted - 2012.06.26 04:05:00 - [9] - Quote Antisocial Malkavian wrote: RubyPorto wrote: At least the CCL (forum mods). The ISDs are fine in the rookie/help chats (though they give terrible advice and don't know the mechanics they're trying to explain). at least the ISD apparently cant ban lol youd be screwed ruby I fully expect to have a forum vacation from all this. This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody.
RubyPorto SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT 2136	Posted - 2012.06.26 04:15:00 - [10] - Quote Gun Gal wrote: I see tears:-) Oh ya,good work ISD, its kind of funny seeing the flamers, the jerks, and the more vocal whiners cry. Tah tah Wonder if this post, being full of content, and lacking in any form of personal attacks will be stenssoned. This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody.
RubyPorto SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT 2138	Posted - 2012.06.26 04:16:00 - [11] - Quote Cutter Isaacson wrote: RubyPorto wrote: Yep. That's been intentional. But was the newbie asking for help with the Character creator worthy of getting his thread locked before he got his question answered? That's what threw gasoline on all of this. Which newbie are you referring to? The guy who couldn't find the Shirt tuck-in button. I'd link the thread (or the 2 rezzed threads that it took to answer his question), but linking locked threads is against the rules (and, more importantly, I'm lazy). This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody.
RubyPorto SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT 2138	Posted - 2012.06.26 04:22:00 - [12] - Quote Cutter Isaacson wrote: RubyPorto wrote: Cutter Isaacson wrote: RubyPorto wrote: Yep. That's been intentional. But was the newbie asking for help with the Character creator worthy of getting his thread locked before he got his question answered? That's what threw gasoline on all of this. Which newbie are you referring to? The guy who couldn't find the Shirt tuck-in button. I'd link the thread (or the 2 rezzed threads that it took to answer his question), but linking locked threads is against the rules (and, more importantly, I'm lazy). I know precisely which one you are talking about, I dismissed it at first because the poster is in fact not a newbie. So ISDs should assume that older players asking simple questions are trolling and should have their threads locked? This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody.
RubyPorto SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT 2139	Posted - 2012.06.26 04:26:00 - [13] - Quote Jason Marshall wrote: I honestly thought that CCP hadn't added the feature. So I made a rage thread to get it implemented. Or to be laughed at and given an answer. It worked...but only after some..well.. You got trolled by an ISD. It happens... I guess... This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody.
RubyPorto SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT 2139	Posted - 2012.06.26 04:40:00 - [14] - Quote Patrick Estemaire wrote: This feels like the old Guards/Prisoners social experiment. For nerds. The Stanford Prison Experiment is hilarious... I mean, except for all the torture.. This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody.
RubyPorto SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT 2139	Posted - 2012.06.26 04:50:00 - [15] - Quote Lapine Davion wrote: RubyPorto wrote: Patrick Estemaire wrote: This feels like the old Guards/Prisoners social experiment. For nerds. The Stanford Prison Experiment is hilarious... I mean, except for all the torture.. Yes, lets compare actual torture to the eve-o forums. Actually wait, that's quite apt. I did nothing of the sort. I just said that the Experiment and story behind it are hilarious (but for the torture). The fact that the lessons it can teach us about suddenly giving people power over their peers are pretty apt for the ISD debacle was beside the point of my post. This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody.
RubyPorto SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT 2139	Posted - 2012.06.26 04:54:00 - [16] - Quote Lapine Davion wrote: Flooding the forums with useless threads is effective? Effective at getting people banned, maybe. Did this really start because of a thread about shirt tucking options? That's what sparked the big fire. ISD Stensson locked a thread as Spam just because it happened to be posted while there was some dissent over the role of volunteer moderators on the EvE-O forums. Turns out putting your Lock button on a Macro has some consequences. This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody.
RubyPorto SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT 2139	Posted - 2012.06.26 04:58:00 - [17] - Quote Antisocial Malkavian wrote: RubyPorto wrote: I just said that the Experiment and story behind it are hilarious (but for the torture). Man ive HAD toenails removed surgically without anesthesia. Torture aint funny (mind you that was a DOCTOR so I even knew it was gonna end at some point I still cant imagine what that would be like without that part) I had a Doc at an Urgent care try to reset my smashed wrist with a Hematoma block that hadn't yet taken effect. This was after waiting for 4 hours (90+min of which were alone in an exam room. The perfect place for a trauma patient who's pale, diaphoretic, and complaining of 10/10 pain). Oh, and I had to teach the X-Ray techs how to reapply a splint because they thought they couldn't take an X-ray through a cardboard splint. I had the Doc call me an ambulance to take me to a real doctor after I just barely stopped myself from slugging him. This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody.
RubyPorto SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT 2139	Posted - 2012.06.26 04:58:00 - [18] - Quote Cerebral Wolf wrote: RubyPorto wrote: Lapine Davion wrote: Flooding the forums with useless threads is effective? Effective at getting people banned, maybe. Did this really start because of a thread about shirt tucking options? That's what sparked the big fire. ISD Stensson locked a thread as Spam just because it happened to be posted while there was some dissent over the role of volunteer moderators on the EvE-O forums. Turns out putting your Lock button on a Macro has some consequences. And now they are going on a delete spree of anything that mentions that or anything similar. EvE-Search FTW. This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody.
RubyPorto SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT 2139	Posted - 2012.06.26 05:08:00 - [19] - Quote Suqq Madiq wrote: Morganta wrote: I unsubbed and named the ISD as a reason, that will go up the chain quicker than the 2 month petition line This is literally the best news GD has seen in weeks. Good riddance to you and your shitposting. Reported for Offensive name. Nah, I don't try to censor people's expressing themselves. This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody.
RubyPorto SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT 2139	Posted - 2012.06.26 05:12:00 - [20] - Quote Antisocial Malkavian wrote: how the hell is this: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=125940&find=unread locked but THIS THREAD is still open lol By the way, I've never been a member of the SA forums. This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody.
RubyPorto SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT 2140	Posted - 2012.06.26 05:19:00 - [21] - Quote Antisocial Malkavian wrote: RubyPorto wrote: Antisocial Malkavian wrote: how the hell is this: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=125940&find=unread locked but THIS THREAD is still open lol By the way, I've never been a member of the SA forums. eh? A member of the SA forums is a Goon. Everyone else is a pubbie. I'm a pubbie. This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody.
RubyPorto SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT 2140	Posted - 2012.06.26 05:26:00 - [22] - Quote Antisocial Malkavian wrote: RubyPorto wrote: Antisocial Malkavian wrote: RubyPorto wrote: Antisocial Malkavian wrote: how the hell is this: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=125940&find=unread locked but THIS THREAD is still open lol By the way, I've never been a member of the SA forums. eh? A member of the SA forums is a Goon. Everyone else is a pubbie. I'm a pubbie. Snigwaffe isnt goons? oh PL lol I dont do 0.0 obviously Nope Waffles isn't goons. Neither is PL. We all get painted with the same brush by a lot of carebears because we sometimes make them mad too (also because of OTEC) This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody.
RubyPorto SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT 2140	Posted - 2012.06.26 05:27:00 - [23] - Quote Antisocial Malkavian wrote: Ya I went an looked at it the waffe made me think of goonwaffe lol I think Waffles had the original Goonswarm alliance name for a while. This is EVE. -á Everybody Versus Everybody.