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Merivel Mar	Posted - 2010.01.29 01:48:00 - [1] yes I also read that some website made EVE online game of the year. Now here is an accurate unbiased review of EVE online http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/208-Eve-Online I think EVE advertises their game there too which is a hoot! :)
Captain Mastiff	Posted - 2010.01.29 02:15:00 - [2] Wasn't really a review, more of a bash. Though he does pick on a good few points about what is negative over Eve. Though it just sounded like he can't be arsed as do all his other reviews, or that he thinks that approach is funny/cool.
Samal Aran	Posted - 2010.01.29 02:17:00 - [3] First off that was a very funny review, one of his best. Second, all his reviews make fun of games, its the draw to his reviews. The "unbiased" part is flawed however because he refused to join a corporation and only played for one week.Eve is a player interaction dependent game to be any good. One Week...this is NOT enough time to accurately play any MMO and give it a "unbiased true review".
Boomershoot Caldari Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2010.01.29 02:19:00 - [4] If you aren't able to take whatever Yatzhee says in the reviews with a ton of salt you won't understand why he's so ****ing cool. On the other hand, that man saved me hundreds of bucks in games
Virgil Travis Gallente	Posted - 2010.01.29 02:22:00 - [5] He got the eyestrain bit right though
NyteTyger Gallente NiteSun Enterprises	Posted - 2010.01.29 02:50:00 - [6] Seen that, still hilarious __________________________________________ It's a do or die universe, so you better damn well choose between one or the other.
Klingz Gallente	Posted - 2010.01.29 03:04:00 - [7] Originally by: Merivel Mar yes I also read that some website made EVE online game of the year. Now here is an accurate unbiased review of EVE online http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/208-Eve-Online I think EVE advertises their game there too which is a hoot! :) This one is..... oouulldd, like the interweb.... or from feb08, that is allmost pre-historic . And when it was made, Eve had pritty many adds on EscapistMagazine And - Originally by: Samal Aran First off that was a very funny review, one of his best. Second, all his reviews make fun of games, its the draw to his reviews. Yahtzee does not make fun of every game he reviws... He've slaughtered most of them. Portal from The Orange Box got a good review. -and some old game I can't remember, which you only could play on a Gameboy as the Worlds greatest game ever created. But back to the slaughtering, if you take any game, look hard at it's core, what make that game unique, what apart that game for all the other, done beenfore. You'll too see that mostly all games are the same. What Yahtzee does, is what all thoes other crappy gamereviews don't dare do, telling the truth. Start here and see all of them, you see what I mean. ------------ Dozar Klingz I smoke.... It's not easy to be green when you're small. But it's worse to be a cowered when you're big. Smokers are also humens... but not that long...
Nooma K'Larr Minmatar Cat's Cradle	Posted - 2010.01.29 03:23:00 - [8] Honest assessment: EVE in concept is a great game, however the production of EVE is substandard. Patches that break things is a new concept to me. For the apologist out there, they will always fall back on the "complexity" of the game. Here's a news flash: most all things in life are complex, yet we expect them to work properly. There is this little thing taught in "Programming 101" called TESTING AND DEBUGGING that the CCP programming teams seems to overlook. There is also a blatant disregard for the myriad of computer systems players have and how any major change in EVE hardware requirements affect the end user. Case in-point, eliminating the MEDIUM SHADER which has become a sore point with me and many other players. Yet CCP claims that they know "it" was not used that often. So is the shader client based or server based? How do they know it wasn't used that often? Or was it just an excuse to shrink their code. So why continue with EVE you may ask. Because in spite of all their faults, it is the only decent space based MMO out in the real universe. CCP's indifference to their customer base will continue this way because EVE really has no viable competition. Once competition surfaces, and membership declines, then and only then will CCP produce a superior product and listen to its customer base. ___________________________________________________ CSM - Bring back Medium Shader!
Cyprus Black Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2010.01.29 03:36:00 - [9] Woah watch out guys! We're experiencing a time warp back to 2008! Hang on to something!!!! ___________________________________ "In the land of predators, the lion does not fear the jackal." -Dexter
Reem Fairchild Minmatar Military Research and Manufacturing Corp.	Posted - 2010.01.29 03:45:00 - [10] Wow, this guy is a total idiot. ----- 'In Eve, as in real life, if you are bored it's your own fault.'

Jin Nib Resplendent Knives	Posted - 2010.01.29 03:48:00 - [11] Yatzee is pretty damn funny, but he is anything but "unbiased" lol. -Jin Nib Trading on behalf of Opera Noir since: 2009.03.02 03:53:00
Bhattran	Posted - 2010.01.29 03:59:00 - [12] Originally by: Nooma K'Larr Honest assessment: EVE in concept is a great game, however the production of EVE is substandard. Patches that break things is a new concept to me. For the apologist out there, they will always fall back on the "complexity" of the game. Here's a news flash: most all things in life are complex, yet we expect them to work properly. There is this little thing taught in "Programming 101" called TESTING AND DEBUGGING that the CCP programming teams seems to overlook. There is also a blatant disregard for the myriad of computer systems players have and how any major change in EVE hardware requirements affect the end user. Case in-point, eliminating the MEDIUM SHADER which has become a sore point with me and many other players. Yet CCP claims that they know "it" was not used that often. So is the shader client based or server based? How do they know it wasn't used that often? Or was it just an excuse to shrink their code. So why continue with EVE you may ask. Because in spite of all their faults, it is the only decent space based MMO out in the real universe. CCP's indifference to their customer base will continue this way because EVE really has no viable competition. Once competition surfaces, and membership declines, then and only then will CCP produce a superior product and listen to its customer base. QFMT I was annoyed to find the link is a video review because I don't care what the reviewer looks like or sounds like, I'd like to have known what his review was, accurate, funny etc but alas I can't be bothered to watch and listen at his pace I've got too much crap to read about EVE so I can have fun.
Kitimortoa	Posted - 2010.01.29 04:46:00 - [13] Originally by: Nooma K'Larr Honest assessment: EVE in concept is a great game, however the production of EVE is substandard. Patches that break things is a new concept to me. For the apologist out there, they will always fall back on the "complexity" of the game. Here's a news flash: most all things in life are complex, yet we expect them to work properly. There is this little thing taught in "Programming 101" called TESTING AND DEBUGGING that the CCP programming teams seems to overlook. There is also a blatant disregard for the myriad of computer systems players have and how any major change in EVE hardware requirements affect the end user. Case in-point, eliminating the MEDIUM SHADER which has become a sore point with me and many other players. Yet CCP claims that they know "it" was not used that often. So is the shader client based or server based? How do they know it wasn't used that often? Or was it just an excuse to shrink their code. So why continue with EVE you may ask. Because in spite of all their faults, it is the only decent space based MMO out in the real universe. CCP's indifference to their customer base will continue this way because EVE really has no viable competition. Once competition surfaces, and membership declines, then and only then will CCP produce a superior product and listen to its customer base. You obviously haven't had much experience in either programming or playing MMOs.
Culmen Caldari Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2010.01.29 04:51:00 - [14] Does anyone else find it hilarious that all the ships were flying backwards? Shows how much he played. and further more why do i even need a sig?
Nooma K'Larr Minmatar Cat's Cradle	Posted - 2010.01.29 04:52:00 - [15] Originally by: Kitimortoa Originally by: Nooma K'Larr Honest assessment: EVE in concept is a great game, however the production of EVE is substandard. Patches that break things is a new concept to me. For the apologist out there, they will always fall back on the "complexity" of the game. Here's a news flash: most all things in life are complex, yet we expect them to work properly. There is this little thing taught in "Programming 101" called TESTING AND DEBUGGING that the CCP programming teams seems to overlook. There is also a blatant disregard for the myriad of computer systems players have and how any major change in EVE hardware requirements affect the end user. Case in-point, eliminating the MEDIUM SHADER which has become a sore point with me and many other players. Yet CCP claims that they know "it" was not used that often. So is the shader client based or server based? How do they know it wasn't used that often? Or was it just an excuse to shrink their code. So why continue with EVE you may ask. Because in spite of all their faults, it is the only decent space based MMO out in the real universe. CCP's indifference to their customer base will continue this way because EVE really has no viable competition. Once competition surfaces, and membership declines, then and only then will CCP produce a superior product and listen to its customer base. You obviously haven't had much experience in either programming or playing MMOs. I hold a degree in computer programming and systems analysis. I think I have room to judge. ___________________________________________________ CSM - Bring back Medium Shader!
Kitimortoa	Posted - 2010.01.29 04:53:00 - [16] Edited by: Kitimortoa on 29/01/2010 04:55:03 Edited by: Kitimortoa on 29/01/2010 04:53:45 Originally by: Nooma K'Larr Originally by: Kitimortoa Originally by: Nooma K'Larr Honest assessment: EVE in concept is a great game, however the production of EVE is substandard. Patches that break things is a new concept to me. For the apologist out there, they will always fall back on the "complexity" of the game. Here's a news flash: most all things in life are complex, yet we expect them to work properly. There is this little thing taught in "Programming 101" called TESTING AND DEBUGGING that the CCP programming teams seems to overlook. There is also a blatant disregard for the myriad of computer systems players have and how any major change in EVE hardware requirements affect the end user. Case in-point, eliminating the MEDIUM SHADER which has become a sore point with me and many other players. Yet CCP claims that they know "it" was not used that often. So is the shader client based or server based? How do they know it wasn't used that often? Or was it just an excuse to shrink their code. So why continue with EVE you may ask. Because in spite of all their faults, it is the only decent space based MMO out in the real universe. CCP's indifference to their customer base will continue this way because EVE really has no viable competition. Once competition surfaces, and membership declines, then and only then will CCP produce a superior product and listen to its customer base. You obviously haven't had much experience in either programming or playing MMOs. I hold a degree in computer programming and systems analysis. I think I have room to judge. I find that hard to believe with the utter crap that's coming out of your mouth. And btw, until you've been doing it in the real world and not reading books for over 10 years, you're not qualified to say **** on the subject. You know how many applicants I circular file after interviewing them for programming positions that have degrees in computer science? 80% of them because they have no clue of what they're doing outside the classroom.
Nooma K'Larr Minmatar Cat's Cradle	Posted - 2010.01.29 05:01:00 - [17] Edited by: Nooma K''Larr on 29/01/2010 05:03:13 Originally by: Kitimortoa Edited by: Kitimortoa on 29/01/2010 04:53:45 Originally by: Nooma K'Larr Originally by: Kitimortoa Originally by: Nooma K'Larr Honest assessment: EVE in concept is a great game, however the production of EVE is substandard. Patches that break things is a new concept to me. For the apologist out there, they will always fall back on the "complexity" of the game. Here's a news flash: most all things in life are complex, yet we expect them to work properly. There is this little thing taught in "Programming 101" called TESTING AND DEBUGGING that the CCP programming teams seems to overlook. There is also a blatant disregard for the myriad of computer systems players have and how any major change in EVE hardware requirements affect the end user. Case in-point, eliminating the MEDIUM SHADER which has become a sore point with me and many other players. Yet CCP claims that they know "it" was not used that often. So is the shader client based or server based? How do they know it wasn't used that often? Or was it just an excuse to shrink their code. So why continue with EVE you may ask. Because in spite of all their faults, it is the only decent space based MMO out in the real universe. CCP's indifference to their customer base will continue this way because EVE really has no viable competition. Once competition surfaces, and membership declines, then and only then will CCP produce a superior product and listen to its customer base. You obviously haven't had much experience in either programming or playing MMOs. I hold a degree in computer programming and systems analysis. I think I have room to judge. I find that hard to believe with the utter crap that's coming out of your mouth. And btw, until you've been doing it in the real world and not reading books for over 10 years, you're not qualified to say ** on the subject. I find it hard to believe you're not 12 years old. Troll. I posted an opinion. I'm sorry you have no life outside of EvE and cant stand a little criticism of your ***. Edit: My server question was rhetorical, and there is a BIG difference between a degree in Computer Science and one in Programming & Systems Analysis. Do you even know what systems analysis is? ___________________________________________________ CSM - Bring back Medium Shader!
Kitimortoa	Posted - 2010.01.29 05:03:00 - [18] Originally by: Nooma K'Larr I find it hard to believe you're not 12 years old. Troll. I posted an opinion. I'm sorry you have no life outside of EvE and cant stand a little criticism of your *****. And now we know, some kid fresh out of college that has no idea what it's like to do real development if that's the only thing you have to say.
Liang Nuren No Salvation War.Pigs.	Posted - 2010.01.29 05:05:00 - [19] Originally by: Nooma K'Larr There is this little thing taught in "Programming 101" called TESTING AND DEBUGGING that the CCP programming teams seems to overlook. Hey let me know when you've worked on a mature 5-10 million line code base with multiple dozens of distributed terabyte datastores ok? -Liang -- Liang Nuren - Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire www.kwikdeath.org
Nooma K'Larr Minmatar Cat's Cradle	Posted - 2010.01.29 05:06:00 - [20] Originally by: Kitimortoa Originally by: Nooma K'Larr I find it hard to believe you're not 12 years old. Troll. I posted an opinion. I'm sorry you have no life outside of EvE and cant stand a little criticism of your *****. And now we know, some kid fresh out of college that has no idea what it's like to do real development if that's the only thing you have to say. I'm retired you turd. Also served in the military as an avionics technician so my background is both in hardware and software. Hardly a kid out of college. ___________________________________________________ CSM - Bring back Medium Shader!

Dyphorus	Posted - 2010.01.29 05:07:00 - [21] That should be EVE's advertisement. It was hilarious. Having seen it, and not already being a subscriber, I would have had to try the game out.
Cambarus The Compass Reloaded	Posted - 2010.01.29 05:10:00 - [22] Originally by: Culmen Does anyone else find it hilarious that all the ships were flying backwards? Shows how much he played. IIRC that review featured a bestower and a domi duking it out, the bestower won, and both ships flew backwards. These are usually pretty good signs that the person who made the video didn't play eve for very long. It was a funny review, but all of his vids are made to be funny, and not made to be taken seriously. If I took his reviews seriously I'd most like be wondering how someone can get a job relating to video games when he clearly hates them so much. That being said, for anyone who insists on taking his reviews seriously: He refused to join a corp. He mocks people for saying it's not like other MMOs, claiming that it's exactly the same. He then goes on to complain about the very things that separate eve from other MMOs. He complains about how he doesn't understand the difference/uses of skills, when every skill tells you exactly what it does in the description. He seems to think corporations aren't eve's equivalent of guilds/clans, but rather ACTUAL corporations. I'm sure there's more, but at the end of the day it doesn't really matter because the zero punctuation reviews are not meant to be taken seriously, it's just meant to be funny \o/
Barakkus Caelestis Iudicium	Posted - 2010.01.29 05:11:00 - [23] Edited by: Barakkus on 29/01/2010 05:11:56 Wow People should get a grip and lay off ccp a bit. Originally by: CCP Dropbear rofl edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
Kitimortoa	Posted - 2010.01.29 05:14:00 - [24] Originally by: Nooma K'Larr Edited by: Nooma K''Larr on 29/01/2010 05:07:11 Originally by: Kitimortoa Originally by: Nooma K'Larr I find it hard to believe you're not 12 years old. Troll. I posted an opinion. I'm sorry you have no life outside of EvE and cant stand a little criticism of your ***. And now we know, some kid fresh out of college that has no idea what it's like to do real development if that's the only thing you have to say. I'm retired you turd. Also served in the military as an avionics technician so my background is both in hardware and software. Hardly a kid out of college. Originally by:** Liang Nuren Originally by: Nooma K'Larr There is this little thing taught in "Programming 101" called TESTING AND DEBUGGING that the CCP programming teams seems to overlook. Hey let me know when you've worked on a mature 5-10 million line code base with multiple dozens of distributed terabyte datastores ok? -Liang Still doesnt allow for sloppy administration of code. There's a big difference in knowing what the ** to do to make something work and simply making suggestions. you don't even know the shader is run by the client's gpu. Until you've done some serious coding and not writing up documentation etc using industry buzz words till your fingers fall off you don't know ** about what they have to do...
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2010.01.29 05:15:00 - [25] Originally by: Barakkus Wow People should get a grip and lay off ccp a bit. Staring at the black loading screen of death if you happen to be in a lagged out fleet fight tends to do that to you especially when the forums are just an alt-tab away. Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu The only thing separating us from frightened, feral monkeys is running water on tap, fuel in the tank, and current in our wall sockets.
Nooma K'Larr Minmatar Cat's Cradle	Posted - 2010.01.29 05:17:00 - [26] Originally by: Kitimortoa Originally by: Nooma K'Larr Edited by: Nooma K''Larr on 29/01/2010 05:07:11 Originally by: Kitimortoa Originally by: Nooma K'Larr I find it hard to believe you're not 12 years old. Troll. I posted an opinion. I'm sorry you have no life outside of EvE and cant stand a little criticism of your ***. And now we know, some kid fresh out of college that has no idea what it's like to do real development if that's the only thing you have to say. I'm retired you turd. Also served in the military as an avionics technician so my background is both in hardware and software. Hardly a kid out of college. Originally by:** Liang Nuren Originally by: Nooma K'Larr There is this little thing taught in "Programming 101" called TESTING AND DEBUGGING that the CCP programming teams seems to overlook. Hey let me know when you've worked on a mature 5-10 million line code base with multiple dozens of distributed terabyte datastores ok? -Liang Still doesnt allow for sloppy administration of code. There's a big difference in knowing what the ** to do to make something work and simply making suggestions. you don't even know the shader is run by the client's gpu. Until you've done some serious coding and not writing up documentation etc using industry buzz words till your fingers fall off you don't know about what they have to do... Apparently you have problems reading as well What part of "My server question was rhetorical..."** didnt you understand? Buzz words? What buzz words? Is your vocabulary that limited? ___________________________________________________ CSM - Bring back Medium Shader!
Barakkus Caelestis Iudicium	Posted - 2010.01.29 05:18:00 - [27] Originally by: Zeba Originally by: Barakkus Wow People should get a grip and lay off ccp a bit. Staring at the black loading screen of death if you happen to be in a lagged out fleet fight tends to do that to you especially when the forums are just an alt-tab away. Yeah, that happened to me my first month, I was sooooo **ed. Lost my first cruiser in Ammamake undocking after picking it up, not even insured...of course I learned not to go to Ammamake... Originally by:** CCP Dropbear rofl edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
Kitimortoa	Posted - 2010.01.29 05:21:00 - [28] Edited by: Kitimortoa on 29/01/2010 05:22:25 Originally by: Nooma K'Larr Apparently you have problems reading as well What part of "My server question was rhetorical..." didnt you understand? Buzz words? What buzz words? Is your vocabulary that limited? Nice try at backpedaling your complete lack of knowledge. And yeah every ****ing "systems analyst" I've had the displeasure of working with doesn't know their ass from a hole in the ground, they just like to sounds like they know what they're talking about by peppering their documentation (that's usually pretty useless) with as many industry buzzwords that they can fit on a page or two. Edit: spellin
superteds	Posted - 2010.01.29 05:23:00 - [29] protip; every second person on any forum worldwide proclaims to be a game dev/server manager/bill gates.
Liang Nuren No Salvation War.Pigs.	Posted - 2010.01.29 05:25:00 - [30] Originally by: superteds protip; every second person on any forum worldwide proclaims to be a game dev/server manager/bill gates. Protip 2: And some of them actually are. ;-) -Liang -- Liang Nuren - Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire www.kwikdeath.org

Kitimortoa	Posted - 2010.01.29 05:25:00 - [31] Originally by: superteds protip; every second person on any gaming forum worldwide that has issues with the game they play proclaims to be a game dev/server manager/bill gates.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2010.01.29 05:28:00 - [32] Originally by: Liang Nuren Originally by: superteds protip; every second person on any forum worldwide proclaims to be a game dev/server manager/bill gates. Protip 2: And some of them actually are. ;-) -Liang Indeed. Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu The only thing separating us from frightened, feral monkeys is running water on tap, fuel in the tank, and current in our wall sockets.
Bagrista	Posted - 2010.01.29 05:43:00 - [33] I seriously laughed my ass off. Also, the amount of idiocy and the lack of sense humor exhibited by some people in this thread are overwhelming. This is my annoying sig. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
Jin Nib Resplendent Knives	Posted - 2010.01.29 06:00:00 - [34] Girls, girls, stop fighting or get in the pit. -Jin Nib Trading on behalf of Opera Noir since: 2009.03.02 03:53:00
Nooma K'Larr Minmatar Cat's Cradle	Posted - 2010.01.29 06:50:00 - [35] Originally by: Jin Nib Girls, girls, stop fighting or get in the pit. me love you long time sailor ___________________________________________________ CSM - Bring back Medium Shader!
CommmanderInChief Unorganised Crime	Posted - 2010.01.29 09:09:00 - [36] I have to say that is pretty damn accurate, and to be honest about time too, if he came on here and said that people will tell him to go die, go back to wow blah blah ahh the eve community! Strangely though I still play this game...why? cos ive invested too much time and money in it thats the ONLY reason it stops me leaving after 6 years!
Braskyte StarShard Industries	Posted - 2010.01.29 09:10:00 - [37] Yahtzee FTW
UVPhoenix2 Gallente Brotherhood of Heart and Steel Libertas Fidelitas	Posted - 2010.01.29 09:33:00 - [38] Cool. ___ After I'm gone, your Earth will be free to live out its miserable span of existence, as one of my satellites, and that's how it's going to be.
Norian Lonark Gallente Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance	Posted - 2010.01.29 10:03:00 - [39] Originally by: Nooma K'Larr I hold a degree in computer programming and systems analysis. I think I have room to judge. No this really doesn't give you room to judge. When you are running a multi million pound company that has been operating a successful mmo for years then you will have room to judge. CCP really do a fantastic job.
Nooma K'Larr Minmatar Cat's Cradle	Posted - 2010.01.29 10:34:00 - [40] Originally by: Norian Lonark Originally by: Nooma K'Larr I hold a degree in computer programming and systems analysis. I think I have room to judge. No this really doesn't give you room to judge. When you are running a multi million pound company that has been operating a successful mmo for years then you will have room to judge. CCP really do a fantastic job. sigh I said I'm a programmer, not a business adminstrator. ___________________________________________________ CSM - Bring back Medium Shader!

Jerreie	Posted - 2010.01.29 10:44:00 - [41] Edited by: Jerreie on 29/01/2010 10:45:03 ITT people who take humorous semi-reviews personally, unwittingly strengthening the arguments of the very video they try to ridicule.
baltec1 Antares Shipyards Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2010.01.29 10:46:00 - [42] Im going to test this MMO which is heavily based upon pvp and community by not taking part in anything involving other players... Good plan!
SirDynty Gallente Boiians	Posted - 2010.01.29 10:50:00 - [43] omg peoples,IT IS FUNNY review,you are supposed to laugh at it not whine on forums,omgf:) he have the point,but its is the same point like those crappy american "comics" we can see in movies,making fun from peoples in the audience it is the same fun like when you scream "we are dooomed" when your fat friend enter your boat on a river or i dont know how to explain it properly in english,but it is HUMOUR,he is beathing the crap out of all games
Reem Fairchild Minmatar Military Research and Manufacturing Corp.	Posted - 2010.01.29 10:58:00 - [44] Originally by: SirDynty it is the same fun like when you scream "we are dooomed" when your fat friend enter your boat on a river or i dont know how to explain it properly in english,but it is HUMOUR,he is beathing the crap out of all games But it's not funny. I wouldn't think it was even if I hated Eve. He comes off as someone who thinks he is funny and loves the sound of his own voice, when really he is not. It's just annoying. ----- 'In Eve, as in real life, if you are bored it's your own fault.'
Nooma K'Larr Minmatar Cat's Cradle	Posted - 2010.01.29 11:01:00 - [45] Originally by: SirDynty omg peoples,IT IS FUNNY review,you are supposed to laugh at it not whine on forums,omgf:) he have the point,but its is the same point like those crappy american "comics" we can see in movies,making fun from peoples in the audience it is the same fun like when you scream "we are dooomed" when your fat friend enter your boat on a river or i dont know how to explain it properly in english,but it is HUMOUR,he is beathing the crap out of all games It's funny because there is an element of truth to it. ___________________________________________________ CSM - Bring back Medium Shader!
Ran Khanon Amarr Vengeance Innovations	Posted - 2010.01.29 11:02:00 - [46] Yahtzee is brilliant in his observations most of the time. If you can't see the humour in his 'reviews' you take him much too seriously. ò He bashes almost EVERY game. ò He is a self confessed 'mumorpeger' hater.
Reem Fairchild Minmatar Military Research and Manufacturing Corp.	Posted - 2010.01.29 11:07:00 - [47] Originally by: Ran Khanon If you can't see the humour in his 'reviews' you take him much too seriously. It's impossible to take him seriously. ----- 'In Eve, as in real life, if you are bored it's your own fault.'
Mr Kidd	Posted - 2010.01.29 11:26:00 - [48] What wrong with wearing a shoe on your head?
Starlk	Posted - 2010.01.29 11:28:00 - [49] Edited by: Starlk on 29/01/2010 11:28:43 I'm in the army, I also fight aliens with my trusty sidekick Mittens the cat. I can also program a Spectrum, this make me awesome even if the bit about programming a Spectrum is false. Anyone can say anything on the internet. And yes the guy who does the reviews is funny and like everyone else he is entitled to his opinion. Laugh about it and move on, YAY! not in the army, or fighting aliens but I do have a cat
Omal Oma Aurelius Federation Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2010.01.29 11:32:00 - [50] Originally by: Nooma K'Larr Apparently you have problems reading as well What part of "My server question was rhetorical..." didnt you understand? Buzz words? What buzz words? Is your vocabulary that limited? Hey man... IMO you shouldn't be too concerned about the Medium Shader setting as CCP stated in the patch notes that it was too much investment in time to maintain. They removed it so that they could focus on more pressing issues such as server lag and client side improvements. Since you are a programmer, you understand that when including pixel rendering for multiple settings, it requires more time and effort to maintain. Considering we pay a monthly fee and get free expansions for a game that is as massive as EVE is, I'd rather them cut corners to make the game larger, more epic and focus on things which are game breaking than making it more beautiful to the eye. Now considering your intelligence and how much you've been attempting to back your know-how with gaming programming, I would like to remind you, respectfully, that you can force settings in your graphics card control panel such as Anti Aliasing and shading to suit how you want the game rendered. Your posts to request for a setting to be put back into the game just pushes more work on to developers who are trying to improve this game's playability instead of just make it pretty. For instance, I've forced 16xQ making EVE look less jagged. Possibly, down the road, they can bring it back. But for now, with all the lag issues this game is experiencing, I'm happy they've put it on the back burner. ...just sayn' ________________________________________________ <--- My in-game me.

Doomed Predator Red Federation	Posted - 2010.01.29 11:54:00 - [51] Originally by: Ran Khanon Yahtzee is brilliant in his observations most of the time. If you can't see the humour in his 'reviews' you take him much too seriously. ò He bashes almost EVERY game. ò He is a self confessed 'mumorpeger' hater. Indeed, Yahtzee's reviews are there to make you laugh and not to suggest if the game if worth a damn or not. At least most of the time that's the case. It is amusing to see all the people who take him too seriously foam at the mouth when he bashes their favorite game. Hell, with such logical flaws as a Dominix and Bestover fighting and the hauler wins,who's to say it's not all a massive troll? A bit off topic,but doesn't forcing graphic settings pose a risk of frying your card?I am no expert on the subject, but would like to hear from people who've been forcing various settings on a game which does not officially support them(like AA in EVE). The 'Fendahlian Collective' strikes again
Digital Solaris Caldari	Posted - 2010.01.29 12:11:00 - [52] Edited by: Digital Solaris on 29/01/2010 12:11:13 Sadly Yatzhee is not as funny as he used to be. Likely because the games he bashes now begs for it, but how I cried from laughing when he reviewed EVE. Originally by: Nooma K'Larr I hold a degree in computer programming and systems analysis. I think I have room to judge. Amusing that you drop the "have a degree and a past in the military as a programmer"-line. Narcissistic much? What kind of complex piece of software (that didn't have bugs in its code) did you write? Was it "Hello World!"?
Nooma K'Larr Minmatar Cat's Cradle	Posted - 2010.01.29 12:33:00 - [53] Originally by: Digital Solaris Edited by: Digital Solaris on 29/01/2010 12:11:13 Sadly Yatzhee is not as funny as he used to be. Likely because the games he bashes now begs for it, but how I cried from laughing when he reviewed EVE. Originally by: Nooma K'Larr I hold a degree in computer programming and systems analysis. I think I have room to judge. Amusing that you drop the "have a degree and a past in the military as a programmer"-line. Narcissistic much? What kind of complex piece of software (that didn't have bugs in its code) did you write? Was it "Hello World!"? My degree comment was in reply to: "You obviously haven't had much experience in either programming or playing MMOs." Narcissistic? No just stating a fact. Another fact is that programmers are a dime a dozen so there is nothing special about me. But having been there, I don't understand how CCP can release broken patches time and time again. There is something very wrong with that (from a programming teams point of view). Now, I've heard the "size" argument...yes, yes a billion lines of code to maintain. But that is a pathetic argument when it comes to code maintenance. That's like a surgeon saying, "I failed because there was just so much blood." Get my point? BTW, learn to read. I was an electronics tech in the military and a programmer in civilian life. Don't hold my accomplishments against me, they weren't handed to me. I worked hard for them. ___________________________________________________ CSM - Bring back Medium Shader!
Droog 1 Black Rise Inbreds	Posted - 2010.01.29 12:39:00 - [54] /signs up to be part of the backlash
Doctor Mabuse	Posted - 2010.01.29 12:49:00 - [55] Originally by: Nooma K'Larr ...only decent space based MMO out in the real... Personally, I loved the way you bolded 'space based' just in case we hadn't realised... ------------------------------------ Who's trip-trapping on my bridge?
Nooma K'Larr Minmatar Cat's Cradle	Posted - 2010.01.29 12:52:00 - [56] Originally by: Doctor Mabuse Originally by: Nooma K'Larr ...only decent space based MMO out in the real... Personally, I loved the way you bolded 'space based' just in case we hadn't realised... that's because the knee-jerk reaction to any criticism here is: "WOW is that way --->" ...as if it's a good replacment for eve. ___________________________________________________ CSM - Bring back Medium Shader!
Isospin	Posted - 2010.01.29 13:12:00 - [57] Eve is in space? I thought this was a submarine game.
Stupid McStupidson Gallente Hoek Lyne and Sinker	Posted - 2010.01.29 13:26:00 - [58] Originally by: Jin Nib Girls, girls, stop fighting or get in the pit. Two men enter, one man leaves.
Vyktor Abyss The Abyss Corporation	Posted - 2010.01.29 13:28:00 - [59] Great critique. I'd say he nailed it re: 14 days trial "****ensian workhouse orphan with his nose pressed against the shop window" .
domitesting	Posted - 2010.01.29 13:31:00 - [60] Edited by: domitesting on 29/01/2010 13:36:23 Originally by: Norian Lonark Originally by: Nooma K'Larr I hold a degree in computer programming and systems analysis. I think I have room to judge. No this really doesn't give you room to judge. When you are running a multi million pound company that has been operating a successful mmo for years then you will have room to judge. CCP really do a fantastic job. lol he does and you dont especially by your last comment, and successful how? in monetry terms? how do you term success, because for the past years ive played i must of missed the successful bit from a players point of view @nooma dont rise to the flamebait..:) these are real eve fanboys, who are so blinded (remember the weird geek people the video referred to) well i need say no more

Zeredek Gallente Echo 1 Enterprises	Posted - 2010.01.29 14:05:00 - [61] Shoe on my head ftw Zeredek Not a moderator Originally by: Rolk Anderson Words cannot describe the hatred I feel for you Zeredek.
Haraukiae Youik	Posted - 2010.01.29 14:13:00 - [62] Edited by: Haraukiae Youik on 29/01/2010 14:13:46 His comment about player run corporations, with a few exceptions and with all role playing corps excepted (since they play the game the way it was originally intended to be played -- i.e. with a backstory)I thought that was right on. Anyone who has listened to Demetrius Kane in the help channel (and his ilk) will know what I mean.
James Tritanius	Posted - 2010.01.29 14:19:00 - [63] LOL, hilarious and, for most parts, true. The solo PvE aspects of EVE is mega boring.
Navtiqes Space Sheriff	Posted - 2010.01.29 14:34:00 - [64] Edited by: Navtiqes on 29/01/2010 14:35:23 OP been living under a rock? Anyway, yeah that review rocks. Yathzee is the man ^^ The reason that review is so funny is cause it's pretty much all true too, but hell that's why we love the game.
Kitimortoa	Posted - 2010.01.29 14:49:00 - [65] Originally by: Nooma K'Larr Originally by: Digital Solaris Edited by: Digital Solaris on 29/01/2010 12:11:13 Sadly Yatzhee is not as funny as he used to be. Likely because the games he bashes now begs for it, but how I cried from laughing when he reviewed EVE. Originally by: Nooma K'Larr I hold a degree in computer programming and systems analysis. I think I have room to judge. Amusing that you drop the "have a degree and a past in the military as a programmer"-line. Narcissistic much? What kind of complex piece of software (that didn't have bugs in its code) did you write? Was it "Hello World!"? My degree comment was in reply to: "You obviously haven't had much experience in either programming or playing MMOs." Narcissistic? No just stating a fact. Another fact is that programmers are a dime a dozen so there is nothing special about me. But having been there, I don't understand how CCP can release broken patches time and time again. There is something very wrong with that (from a programming teams point of view). Now, I've heard the "size" argument...yes, yes a billion lines of code to maintain. But that is a pathetic argument when it comes to code maintenance. That's like a surgeon saying, "I failed because there was just so much blood." Get my point? BTW, learn to read. I was an electronics tech in the military and a programmer in civilian life. Don't hold my accomplishments against me, they weren't handed to me. I worked hard for them. I still seriously doubt you have anything but a slight inkling of what it's like to design software outside of college. I may be harping on the point a bit, but you didn't even know the shader runs on the client, and no it wasn't a rhetorical question, saying after the point in reference to your comment, "So is the shader client based or server based? How do they know it wasn't used that often? Or was it just an excuse to shrink their code", shows how really stupid you are, and how much you feel the need to inflate your epeen by talking ** about stuff you would not have a chance in hell in understanding. There are lots of people that claim lots of things on the internet, Joe Phoenix for example thinks he's a doctor, scientist, philanthropist etc, but in reality he's some 19 yr old kid running his mouth about ** he has no clue about, to anyone that will listen in an MMO. You fall in this category regardless of your age. If you truly had ever had any experience in programming you wouldn't be making any of these claims that good programmers never release buggy content. You probably couldn't write anything other than a tiny little batch program to display "hello world", and probably poorly at that. So again, until you've worked on a major pieces of software, and for more than a few months (or a year or two) then you have no right to judge the quality of CCPs code.


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