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Xilian Yula	Posted - 2010.01.29 05:25:00 - [1] Greetings, I've been piloting a Tengu for some months now, very satisfied, and a brilliant ship. However, I decided to move up to the Golem instead. I've messed around with EFT, looking on popular fittings and so on. I keep seeing people recommending 3x TP's, so I'm going to go with that. I'd use 3x Domination TP with 5% TP implant, I assume that's what you need with the huge explosion radius torpedoes posses. In any case, I have very hard time making the ship cap stable, but I never afk my missions so I should be alright. My question is, should I use a large shield booster and simply have enough cap to make it last throughout the fight, or should I go with an XL and only rep when I've taken some damage? I can do both, and I have no intentions of afk'ing while doing missions, I only seek the best option. Thanks in advance! Oh btw, if you recommend a fitting, money is not a problem. Everything non-officer is acceptable.
Herpes Sweatrash	Posted - 2010.01.29 05:34:00 - [2] I think like this is best (ps: I don't fly one).. [Golem, Torp PvE] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Republic Fleet Target Painter Republic Fleet Target Painter Republic Fleet Target Painter Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Photon Scattering Field II Heat Dissipation Field II Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Javelin Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Javelin Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Javelin Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Javelin Torpedo Salvager II Small Tractor Beam I Small Tractor Beam I Large Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II Large Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II
Ice Moon	Posted - 2010.02.01 12:57:00 - [3] I don't afk mission. I fly with: 4x CN BCU 1-2x PWNAGE 0-1x AB II 1x Large T2 Booster (vanilla) 3-4 slot tank 4x seige 2x tractor 1x salvager 2x rigs for torp range In my experience you will save a lot of time if you vary your fit depending on mission, as you can skim your tank for painters and propulsion mods if needs be. 2x painters seems to one-shot just about everything you'd expect (i.e. vanilla cruisers etc.) You can't perma-run the booster, but I can't be bothered with faction stuff - it won't make the missions much quicker, imo, just more boring. Ice
NoNah	Posted - 2010.02.01 14:10:00 - [4] Originally by: Xilian Yula Greetings, I've been piloting a Tengu for some months now, very satisfied, and a brilliant ship. However, I decided to move up to the Golem instead. I've messed around with EFT, looking on popular fittings and so on. I keep seeing people recommending 3x TP's, so I'm going to go with that. I'd use 3x Domination TP with 5% TP implant, I assume that's what you need with the huge explosion radius torpedoes posses. In any case, I have very hard time making the ship cap stable, but I never afk my missions so I should be alright. My question is, should I use a large shield booster and simply have enough cap to make it last throughout the fight, or should I go with an XL and only rep when I've taken some damage? I can do both, and I have no intentions of afk'ing while doing missions, I only seek the best option. Thanks in advance! Oh btw, if you recommend a fitting, money is not a problem. Everything non-officer is acceptable. If you can fit an X-large shield booster, and your cap buffer(note not the regen rate, which in this case is irrelevant) is sizable, there is no reason what so ever to fit a large one. They're just as cap efficient, the only two differences is how fast they can inject. This means an X-large can allow you to survive an O**** moment, while the Large may not. Why I mention the capsize is that you can gain some by staying on your peak recharge. You regenerate cap very slowly towards the extremes(Approaching 0 or 100% cap), hence the better resolution you have the easier it is to stay where you want to be. For the actual setup, 3 TP's is indeed recommended, but for it to be useful, you need to know your ship, and it's honestly very rare to use all 3 target painters on the same NPC, which will more than triple the size of a ship(I ignore the cap use implant here which is entire irrelephant). Parrots, commence! Postcount: 947930
Banana Torres The Green Banana Corporation	Posted - 2010.02.01 17:19:00 - [5] Originally by: Herpes Sweatrash I think like this is best (ps: I don't fly one).. [Golem, Torp PvE] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Republic Fleet Target Painter Republic Fleet Target Painter Republic Fleet Target Painter Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Photon Scattering Field II Heat Dissipation Field II Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Javelin Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Javelin Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Javelin Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Javelin Torpedo Salvager II Small Tractor Beam I Small Tractor Beam I Large Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II Large Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II I would have thought that you would need an afterburner for a torpedo Golem? Personally I use a cruise Golem, but I am considering trying a torpedo based setup. Just now EFT gives my Golem setup an EHP of 110k which is a nice buffer when things go wrong. Of course with torpedoes I can't get anything like that and one of the reasons is that fitting an AB ruins the tank.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2010.02.01 23:14:00 - [6] eh the only time I'd bother with an afterburner on the golem is for blitzing a worlds collide, or the score. a medium deadspace booster is nice as it will permarun, but a large or xl should be sufficient.
Scott Ryder Amarr Sisters of Korhal Terran Commonwealth	Posted - 2010.02.02 00:28:00 - [7] Edited by: Scott Ryder on 02/02/2010 00:28:17 [Golem, Setup2] Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System Power Diagnostic System II Dread Guristas Invulnerability Field Dread Guristas Invulnerability Field Gist X-Type Large Shield Booster Gist X-Type Shield Boost Amplifier Cap Recharger II Gist X-Type Photon Scattering Field Republic Fleet Target Painter Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo Small Tractor Beam I Salvager II Salvager II Large Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II Large Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II Hammerhead II x5 Hobgoblin II x5 1275 dps @ 39 km 944 dps @ 65km Tanks 1214 dps for 8 minuts, High grade crystals are included. Never failed me
stoicfaux	Posted - 2010.02.02 01:04:00 - [8] Originally by: Xilian Yula However, I decided to move up to the Golem instead. I've messed around with EFT, looking on popular fittings and so on. I keep seeing people recommending 3x TP's, so I'm going to go with that. I'd use 3x Domination TP with 5% TP implant, I assume that's what you need with the huge explosion radius torpedoes posses. Three TPs is for slapping cruisers around as if you were flying a cruise CNR. One to two TPs are for BCs or fast BCs/battleships. One TP is normally good against fat slow Guristas battleships. The TP implant reduces the activation cost of the TPs whereas the ZMS1000 improves your missile explosion velocity. The latter is better. Quote: Oh btw, if you recommend a fitting, money is not a problem. Everything non-officer is acceptable. IIRC, a Gist-C XL booster, three hardeners, and three TPs will get you through everything but the AE bonus room. ----- "Are you a sociopathic paranoid schizophrenic with accounting skills? We have the game for you! -- Eve, the game of Alts, Economics, Nietzsche, and PvP"
Sprilk	Posted - 2010.02.02 01:06:00 - [9] Originally by: Scott Ryder Edited by: Scott Ryder on 02/02/2010 00:28:17 [Golem, Setup2] Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System Power Diagnostic System II Dread Guristas Invulnerability Field Dread Guristas Invulnerability Field Gist X-Type Large Shield Booster Gist X-Type Shield Boost Amplifier Cap Recharger II Gist X-Type Photon Scattering Field Republic Fleet Target Painter Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo Small Tractor Beam I Salvager II Salvager II Large Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II Large Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II Hammerhead II x5 Hobgoblin II x5 1275 dps @ 39 km 944 dps @ 65km Tanks 1214 dps for 8 minuts, High grade crystals are included. Never failed me 1 painter to apply yout range torp dps? eft warrior for the win... also you are totaly over tanked.
Scott Ryder Amarr Sisters of Korhal Terran Commonwealth	Posted - 2010.02.02 11:08:00 - [10] Edited by: Scott Ryder on 02/02/2010 11:13:50 Edited by: Scott Ryder on 02/02/2010 11:09:13 Originally by: Sprilk Edited by: Sprilk on 02/02/2010 01:43:53 Edited by: Sprilk on 02/02/2010 01:43:28 Originally by: Scott Ryder Edited by: Scott Ryder on 02/02/2010 00:28:17 [Golem, Setup2] Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System Dread Guristas Ballistic Control System Power Diagnostic System II Dread Guristas Invulnerability Field Dread Guristas Invulnerability Field Gist X-Type Large Shield Booster Gist X-Type Shield Boost Amplifier Cap Recharger II Gist X-Type Photon Scattering Field Republic Fleet Target Painter Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo Small Tractor Beam I Salvager II Salvager II Large Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II Large Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II Hammerhead II x5 Hobgoblin II x5 1275 dps @ 39 km 944 dps @ 65km Tanks 1214 dps for 8 minuts, High grade crystals are included. Never failed me 1 painter to apply yout range torp dps? eft warrior for the win... also you are totaly over tanked. If a battleship has a single afterburner (or any speed whatsoever) you will do more damage with tech 1 torps... let alone faction. AND lol vs anything smaller then a battleship. I dont like the fact that you call me eft warrior. But ok, unless you are trolling, I havent had any troubles running missions with that. AE in roughly 40 minuts. Kill loot and salvage (battleships) Edit, and when Im not fighting EM rats, im using a second painter. I still dont see the need for 3 if the player has the skillpoints he needs to even fly this ship properly.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2010.02.02 16:14:00 - [11] Originally by: Scott Ryder I dont like the fact that you call me eft warrior. But ok, unless you are trolling, I havent had any troubles running missions with that. AE in roughly 40 minuts. Kill loot and salvage (battleships) Edit, and when Im not fighting EM rats, im using a second painter. I still dont see the need for 3 if the player has the skillpoints he needs to even fly this ship properly. because 3 is better than 2. and pssh, vs em/therm rats (about a 50/50 split) I have a 190 sustained tank
Croix Kun	Posted - 2010.02.02 16:47:00 - [12] I use Cruise missiles on Golem. 4 Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launchers 2 Salvager 1 Tractor beam 1 Caldari Navy X-Large Shield Booster 1 Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier 2 Invulnerbility Field T2 1 Photon Scattering Field T2 2 Large Shield Extenders T2 3 Caldari Navy Ballistic Control Unit 1 Damage Control T2 5 Hammerheads T2 5 Hornets T2
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2010.02.02 16:59:00 - [13] Originally by: Croix Kun I use Cruise missiles on Golem. 4 Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launchers 2 Salvager 1 Tractor beam 1 Caldari Navy X-Large Shield Booster 1 Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier 2 Invulnerbility Field T2 1 Photon Scattering Field T2 2 Large Shield Extenders T2 3 Caldari Navy Ballistic Control Unit 1 Damage Control T2 5 Hammerheads T2 5 Hornets T2 poor fit, and you didn't even include the rigs, but somehow I doubt I'd even want to look at them.
Croix Kun	Posted - 2010.02.02 17:04:00 - [14] 2 x T1 Large Capacitor Control Circuit It works for me. Rats die. Battleship wrecks are looted and salvaged. Mission Objectives are completed.
Imiarr Timshae Caldari Funny Men In Funny Hats	Posted - 2010.02.02 17:13:00 - [15] The bulk of Golem pilots seem to be ****ed judging by all the threads about how to fly one I see on here. Did some jackass really just say he gets 1200dps tank for 8mins with high grade crystals? lol? Just hilarious. I've got a golem fit that cost me something like 100mil that perma runs 1100dps tank, and guess what, it's ample so long as you're not too moronic to learn to manage mission aggro And the torp guys too Worlds Collide. You really like flying 60km in a 135m/s ship just to get to the first gate? ----- Originally by:** GM Horse Remember kids, both meth and macro use are Really Quite Bad Things.
Herpes Sweatrash	Posted - 2010.02.02 17:43:00 - [16] I bet you got ccc rigs on your cruise golem too like a noob with 1 ballistic control and 3 x flux coil.
Scott Ryder Amarr Sisters of Korhal Terran Commonwealth	Posted - 2010.02.02 21:39:00 - [17] Edited by: Scott Ryder on 02/02/2010 21:40:20 Originally by: Imiarr Timshae The bulk of Golem pilots seem to be ******ed judging by all the threads about how to fly one I see on here. Did some jackass really just say he gets 1200dps tank for 8mins with high grade crystals? lol? Just hilarious. I've got a golem fit that cost me something like 100mil that perma runs 1100dps tank, and guess what, it's ample so long as you're not too moronic to learn to manage mission aggro And the torp guys too Worlds Collide. You really like flying 60km in a 135m/s ship just to get to the first gate? Yes he does :) and what would you know? Perhaps the torp guy has an 3/4 brain and use them hacker cards? Please tell me how you permatank 1100 dps with 100 mil isk fit without implants. Hell ill give you 10 mil isk if you can show me. Edit and if you look at my standings you can see I know how to run missions :o Tbh i prefer full aggro. Two alts in Golems/Paladins permatanking while doing most missions..
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2010.02.02 21:47:00 - [18] eh pretty much fine to drop a tp for an afterburner for wc or just use the cnr. last time I timed it took 23 mins in a nightmare without an afterburner. from mission accept to turn in.
mr majer	Posted - 2010.02.10 21:21:00 - [19] spend a little more isk and buy gist c-type x-large shieldbooster. i get 1445 dps omni tank w/3 t2 shieldboost amp's, 2 t2 invul and t2 photon scattering field. the booster use's low power so 2 ccc t1 rigs and 2 t2 cap flux is enugh to perma run. go for implants you can go down to 1 cap flux. go for more isk, go for 3 caldari boost amp's, and caldari invul's. i have on my omni tank w/target painter; 2245 dps tank, and i perma run. if i go extream i take out the target painter and put 3 caldari invuls then i get 2711 dps tank.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2010.02.10 22:55:00 - [20] Originally by: mr majer spend a little more isk and buy gist c-type x-large shieldbooster. i get 1445 dps omni tank w/3 t2 shieldboost amp's, 2 t2 invul and t2 photon scattering field. the booster use's low power so 2 ccc t1 rigs and 2 t2 cap flux is enugh to perma run. go for implants you can go down to 1 cap flux. go for more isk, go for 3 caldari boost amp's, and caldari invul's. i have on my omni tank w/target painter; 2245 dps tank, and i perma run. if i go extream i take out the target painter and put 3 caldari invuls then i get 2711 dps tank. holy overtank and lack of damage.
Fornicis Caldari APOCALYPSE LEGION	Posted - 2010.02.10 23:20:00 - [21] [Golem, New Setup 1] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Damage Control II Gist X-Type X-Large Shield Booster Pith X-Type Explosion Dampening Field Pith X-Type Explosion Dampening Field Pith X-Type Ballistic Deflection Field Republic Fleet Target Painter Republic Fleet Target Painter Republic Fleet Target Painter Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo Salvager II Small Tractor Beam I Small Tractor Beam I Large Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II Large Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II Hammerhead II x5 Hobgoblin II x5 This is what I'd use tbh, if you're gonna fly a Marauder you may aswell pimp it up as much as possible. This gives 1307 tank against Angels, cap lasts 2m 47secs, pumps out 1031 DPS. Even if you downgrade the Booster to a B-Type you get a 1132 tank and cap lasts 3m 4s. This is all without implants ofc. Oh and to anyone saying that 3 TP's are fail, you need to realise that with 3 TP's on a Cruiser you can insta-pop them. Oh and in before Liang :)
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2010.02.10 23:44:00 - [22] Originally by: Fornicis [Golem, New Setup 1] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Damage Control II Gist X-Type X-Large Shield Booster Pith X-Type Explosion Dampening Field Pith X-Type Explosion Dampening Field Pith X-Type Ballistic Deflection Field Republic Fleet Target Painter Republic Fleet Target Painter Republic Fleet Target Painter Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo Siege Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Torpedo Salvager II Small Tractor Beam I Small Tractor Beam I Large Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II Large Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II Hammerhead II x5 Hobgoblin II x5 This is what I'd use tbh, if you're gonna fly a Marauder you may aswell pimp it up as much as possible. This gives 1307 tank against Angels, cap lasts 2m 47secs, pumps out 1031 DPS. Even if you downgrade the Booster to a B-Type you get a 1132 tank and cap lasts 3m 4s. This is all without implants ofc. Oh and to anyone saying that 3 TP's are fail, you need to realise that with 3 TP's on a Cruiser you can insta-pop them. Oh and in before Liang :) why no officer bcus? MOAR DAMAGE!
Fornicis Caldari APOCALYPSE LEGION	Posted - 2010.02.11 00:02:00 - [23] Well its cos they's crazy moneyz!
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2010.02.11 02:31:00 - [24] Originally by: Fornicis Well its cos they's crazy moneyz! and the rest of the fit isn't?
Jerreye	Posted - 2010.02.11 04:32:00 - [25] Edited by: Jerreye on 11/02/2010 04:32:41 Originally by: Scott Ryder I dont like the fact that you call me eft warrior. But ok, unless you are trolling, I havent had any troubles running missions with that. AE in roughly 40 minuts. Kill loot and salvage (battleships) Edit, and when Im not fighting EM rats, im using a second painter. I still dont see the need for 3 if the player has the skillpoints he needs to even fly this ship properly. Your 1 TP Golem did a 95% BS/BC mission quickly? NO WAY! Like the man said, EFT warrior. This thread needs more horribly over tanked X-L SB/Cruise/6 slot tank/non-4 BCU Golem fits.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2010.02.11 04:48:00 - [26] it permatanks, OVER 9000!!!! (crystals and improved/strong blue pill) [Golem, OVER 9000!!!!] Draclira's Modified Power Diagnostic System Draclira's Modified Power Diagnostic System Draclira's Modified Power Diagnostic System Draclira's Modified Power Diagnostic System Gist X-Type X-Large Shield Booster Thon's Modified Invulnerability Field Pith X-Type Shield Boost Amplifier Thon's Modified Invulnerability Field Pith X-Type Shield Boost Amplifier Thon's Modified Invulnerability Field Gist X-Type X-Large Shield Booster Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Paradise Cruise Missile Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Paradise Cruise Missile Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Paradise Cruise Missile Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Paradise Cruise Missile [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot] Large Capacitor Control Circuit II Large Capacitor Control Circuit II
Jerreye	Posted - 2010.02.11 05:16:00 - [27] Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton it permatanks, OVER 9000!!!! (crystals and improved/strong blue pill) [Golem, OVER 9000!!!!] Draclira's Modified Power Diagnostic System Draclira's Modified Power Diagnostic System Draclira's Modified Power Diagnostic System Draclira's Modified Power Diagnostic System Gist X-Type X-Large Shield Booster Thon's Modified Invulnerability Field Pith X-Type Shield Boost Amplifier Thon's Modified Invulnerability Field Pith X-Type Shield Boost Amplifier Thon's Modified Invulnerability Field Gist X-Type X-Large Shield Booster Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Paradise Cruise Missile Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Paradise Cruise Missile Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Paradise Cruise Missile Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Paradise Cruise Missile [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot] Large Capacitor Control Circuit II Large Capacitor Control Circuit II Sucks. Needs defender missiles for moar tank.
ZW Dewitt	Posted - 2010.02.11 05:25:00 - [28] Originally by: Jerreye Sucks. Needs defender missiles for moar tank. No, it needs smartbombs you ignorant noob. Nothing beats smartbombs for high sec missions.
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2010.02.11 05:29:00 - [29] Originally by: ZW Dewitt Originally by: Jerreye Sucks. Needs defender missiles for moar tank. No, it needs smartbombs you ignorant noob. Nothing beats smartbombs for high sec missions. it only tanks around 3000 now but it permas 3 smartbombs too! [Golem, Pihtums] Draclira's Modified Capacitor Power Relay Draclira's Modified Capacitor Power Relay Draclira's Modified Capacitor Power Relay Draclira's Modified Capacitor Power Relay Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster Pithum A-Type Medium Shield Booster Estamel's Modified Invulnerability Field Estamel's Modified Invulnerability Field Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Paradise Cruise Missile Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Paradise Cruise Missile Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Paradise Cruise Missile Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher, Paradise Cruise Missile Imperial Navy Large EMP Smartbomb Imperial Navy Large EMP Smartbomb Imperial Navy Large EMP Smartbomb Large Capacitor Control Circuit II Large Capacitor Control Circuit II
Drek Grapper Minmatar	Posted - 2010.02.11 14:11:00 - [30] No DCU on that? -- "If itÆs true that our species is alone in the universe, then IÆd have to say that the universe aimed rather low and settled for very little" George Carlin

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