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Sumdumgoi
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Posted - 2010.02.11 21:52:00 -
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a 1v1 is...
1. someone trying to make a large letter "M". 2. when two people meet and like each other a lot. 3. when someone catches you half afk ratting or mining. 4. When you want to trick someone into flagging. 5. when someone's/your friends are too many jumps away to come help. 6. when people fit their ships in ways they would never really fit them for pvp shoot each other and argue over who's the best.
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Raneru
Euphoria Released
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Posted - 2010.02.12 00:08:00 -
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Originally by: Sumdumgoi a 1v1 is... 5. when someone's/your friends are too many jumps away to come help.
This. The best 1v1s are the impromptu ones that end in you winning and warping out just as the opponents buddies arrive
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Joe Stalin
Unknown-Entity Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.12 23:28:00 -
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1v1 Noun/Adjective Definition: An agreement where an Eve player fools another Eve player into agreeing to a disadvantaged combat situation. A 1v1 consists of 3 or more ships. First the "Fooled" ship, who erroneously believes only a single individual ship will be engaged in combat with them. The "bait" ship, who agrees to a 1v1 combat with the fooled player. And lastly 1 or more "****" ships, who are waiting for orders from the bait ship before revealing themselves.
The "fooled" and "bait" ships meet, each appearing to be alone, until the fooled ship is tackled by the bait ship. At that point the "****" ship(s) are given orders to enter the battle, where the fooled ship is destroyed.
Synonyms: Gang ****, prison sex
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Joe Censored
Unknown-Entity Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.12 23:28:00 -
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Edited by: Joe Stalin on 12/02/2010 23:41:53 1v1 Noun/Adjective Definition: An agreement where an Eve player fools another Eve player into agreeing to a disadvantaged combat situation. A 1v1 consists of 3 or more ships. First the "Fooled" ship, who erroneously believes only a single individual ship will be engaged in combat with them. The "bait" ship, who agrees to a 1v1 combat with the fooled player. And lastly 1 or more "****" ships, who are waiting for orders from the bait ship before revealing themselves.
The "fooled" and "bait" ships meet, each appearing to be alone, until the fooled ship is tackled by the bait ship. At that point the "****" ship(s) are given orders to enter the battle, where the fooled ship is destroyed.
Synonyms: Gang ****, prison sex
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Sorry but only a noob thinks about things like fighting in a 1v1. 1v1 isn't how PVP works. PVP is about using any and all advantages to ruin someone else's day. It isn't about the honor of the fight, it isn't about who is better at this or that, and it isn't about who's ship is better. Its about blowing up as many enemy ships as possible using any means necessary. Trying to create some type of fantasy fair fight where you think you can control the 'rules' of the fight is just plain pathetic. "Oh now you are cheating, I said 1v1 but you brought RR!!!" "Oh my god we were doing 1v1 and no fair with that ECM!!!!" "You forfeit the 1v1 cause you cheat!" ****ing pathetic
The truth is if you can trick some moron noob into thinking you don't have backup, then all the better. PVP is a game where you destroy the enemy ships using any means necessary. There is no honor in following some artificial rules you think you can impose on the game where you try to restrict the actions of others so you can get your fake 'fair fight.' The only honor is being on the side that lost less.
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Khamal Jolstien
Caldari RennTech BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2010.02.13 16:12:00 -
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I always looked at it the same way I look at the rest of eve. If I get a kill, I win. If I don't, I didn't win. If I die, I lost.
Fairly simple.
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Misticrevalation
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Posted - 2010.02.24 10:40:00 -
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Edited by: Misticrevalation on 24/02/2010 10:40:48 So to summarize what happened.
Aldrad agreed to a 1 v 1, but wanted to fight near his corp HQ. Upon me targeting him, his friend in Grey Templars (I was at war with Grey Templars, the corp Aldrad often rejoins, but at this point he was in a different corp) undocked and targeted me. I ask Aldrad that his friend dock, or warp away but he refuses.
He then says that "It's ok, because he wasn't actually shooting you, he was just targeting and orbiting you".
Well I'm sorry, honour or no honour, I wasn't going to aggress him with him, 1 WT orbiting me and locking me, and another WT in system. Aldrad was quick to turn the situation into a camp when it became clear I wasn't going to fight in those conditions, so I docked, fitted WCS and left.
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hedfunk
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.04.30 05:29:00 -
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Edited by: hedfunk on 30/04/2010 05:30:43 Sorry to resurrect this thread however, I feel Aldrad should know that Misticrevalation is none other than Coronosphere which some of you may remember for being the biggest idiot on the forums in recent memory.
http://www.eve-search.com/thread/621810/page/1
Read this and laugh for hours, it's good to see he hasnt changed since then, a word of warning th Aldrad, this guy will pester you for years. (He's bothered me for the past 2 years, Also made around 200m from him tho :D)
Other characters he's used are 'Considered', although he has sold this. And Murray Illuminati, plus some other toons of equal failness.
He has a history of being a general failure, quite possible he has mental problems.
Coronosphere on BC - http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Coronosphere
Many hilarious losses, missing a CNR he lost tho.
Another truly epic Coronosphere/Misticrevalation thread: http://www.eve-search.com/thread/621524/page/1
All in all, you have a complete moron on your hands. Goodluck.
Please refrain from political commentary in your signature. Navigator
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Marlona Sky
D00M. RED.OverLord
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Posted - 2010.04.30 07:49:00 -
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It is the time in between the two of you engage each other and the time when the rest of his gang lands on grid.
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Taudia
Gallente Sane Industries Inc. Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2010.04.30 07:57:00 -
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A 1v1 is any fight involving only 2 ships, regardless of consent. You set your own victory conditions - if you're fighting a carrier in your cynabal and kill off a couple of fighters before running off, that could be considered victory for both you and your opponent.
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genette devo
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2010.04.30 18:27:00 -
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a 1v1 is when 2 people make the same tactical error
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Misticrevalation
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Posted - 2010.05.30 00:13:00 -
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It's no big secret that I was Coronosphere hedfunk.
Hope you enjoy the isk
I hope that those links include the civilian shield booster on a Raven loss? If you want to mock my ships - At least get the very best worst fit
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Darthewok
Perkone
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Posted - 2010.05.30 01:36:00 -
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Edited by: Darthewok on 30/05/2010 01:46:46 sounds like a lot of your problems are because you didn't do your "duel" diligence (wheeee pun).
LOCATION 1) never duel at a station, gate or even planet or moon, use a safespot, fleet up with the opponent, either warps to the other then drops fleet, and fight begins. (really stupid to fight at a place where passers-by can get involved or your opponent can dock)
SEPARATION 2) never arrange a duel in a system with possible buddies of your opponent around or nearby. (really stupid to fight in systems where your opponent gets RR and fleet bonuses and reinforcements)
if you break rules 1 or 2, don't whine about it, you took the risk.
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Hereon Herinnger
Gallente Blue Republic
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Posted - 2010.05.30 02:33:00 -
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- No players or NPCs other than those agreeing to the 1v1 can be involved. - What kind of idiots fight on station unless they want station games? - A player who warps out because they fit a stab automatically loses and should die for fitting a stab in combat. - A player who warps out because they got away can claim a draw, or something between a draw and losing.
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Merdaneth
Amarr Angel Wing.
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Posted - 2010.05.30 08:35:00 -
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1vs1 is often abused to mean DUEL
1vs1 is just that, two ships fighting. A duel on the other hand is a regulated, controlled and agreed upon fight between two pilots. Common and agreed to conditions include:
- vacating the duel arena counts as a loss (docking, warping off etc.) - receiving assistance by others counts as a loss - duel is with specific shiptypes or ships (in which case changing ships just prior to the fight counts as a loss)
Additional conditions can be made:
- receiving structure damage counts as a loss - acknowledging defeat counts as a loss, other duellist is required to stop fighting as soon as the other party surrenders
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Junkie Babe
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Posted - 2010.05.30 21:17:00 -
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OK my personal opion,
If you don't destroy your target it's not a victory merely a draw as causing damage to a ship doesn't constitute victory, I could cause some damage to a titan for example and then it could leave the grid and that would make me the winner, seriously guys and gals.
Warping off / docking aren't illegal in 1 v 1 if they where you wouldn't be able to do so.
No-one in thier right mind who is losing a fight and isn't scramed is going to stay and die and posibly be podded and before anyone states that the general EVE players would I feel I must point out that if that where the case then scrams would not be standard fit.
AS the old saying goes he who runs and lives to fight another day...
So In my opion thier no dis-honour in warping off if your losing, thefault is the other player for engaging near a station or not fitting a scram,
And causing damage without killing your enemy doesn't consitute victory.
Personally I would never join a fleet with someone I was gonna duel as if he is boss he is free to invite who ever and then they can warp in at any minute.
Additionally I would check local for any corp members if anywhere present, I would not duel.
Thank you
Regards Junkie Babe
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Zzander Solus
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Posted - 2010.06.02 13:18:00 -
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IMO, 1 v 1 is a random fight between only two pilots, though conditions can be agreed to such as location and any type of ships can be involved. On the other hand, a duel is a 1 v 1 arranged match between the same ships or ships of the same class; eg. Jaguar vs Jaguar or BC vs BC. Terms of a duel should be agreed upon by both parties in advance such as location, ships, and outcome (to the death or to withdraw). Stricter conventions of honor should be attached to duels.
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omgfreemoniez
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Posted - 2010.06.02 13:36:00 -
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Out of the last 3 1v1's I've had, 2 have been honored, and all have been won (winning dishonored 1v1 is best winning)
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wizard87
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Posted - 2010.06.02 14:27:00 -
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There is no honour in Eve.
Finding an honourable opponent is like looking for a virgin in the Amsterdam Jordaan.
Then 1v1s are very rare now Eve has 20 gazillion players in every constellation.
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Zzander Solus
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Posted - 2010.06.02 16:23:00 -
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Originally by: wizard87 There is no honour in Eve.
Finding an honourable opponent is like looking for a virgin in the Amsterdam Jordaan.
Then 1v1s are very rare now Eve has 20 gazillion players in every constellation.
I wouldn't say that there is no honor in Eve; it just tends to get left behind in dusty hangers along with piles of warp core stabilizers. But if two pilots agree to certain terms in an arranged 1 vs 1 fight then they both should honor their agreement.
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