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OrDeR Caldari tr0pa de elite Triumvirate.	Posted - 2010.01.31 00:30:00 - [1] Seems recently there has been a number of high skill point accounts haxed and then transfered to new accounts. CCP is not returning characters which have been haxed and transfered for some unknown reason. Just like to advise my fello caod readers to stay clear of links and shifty **** sites, that 2min release could cost you years of hard work within eve. CCP has no mercy for the curious
Underlaget Caldari Royal Order of Security Specialists	Posted - 2010.01.31 01:59:00 - [2] I see how this is relevant with CAOD...
The Medusa Minmatar DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2010.01.31 02:10:00 - [3] Dear CCP... Make the PASSWORD on the forums to be somting ELSE than the in game password. Thank you.
Thundirr Amarr Mercurialis Inc. RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2010.01.31 16:07:00 - [4] Or they could just include something like: Account Authenticator Only costs $6.5 and makes it impossible for anyone to hack your account. Thundirr out
Yana Pizdah Minmatar tr0pa de elite Triumvirate.	Posted - 2010.01.31 16:50:00 - [5] Originally by: Underlaget I see how this is relevant with CAOD... Indeed ...u mind if i troll for a bit ?
Callum545 Caldari Lone Star Joint Venture Wildly Inappropriate.	Posted - 2010.01.31 16:54:00 - [6] Originally by: Underlaget I see how this is relevant with CAOD... Well considering probably most high skilled players are in a 0.0 allaince and read caod i would say its relevant n thanks for the info
Malcanis Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2010.01.31 17:05:00 - [7] Originally by: The Medusa Dear CCP... Make the PASSWORD on the forums to be somting ELSE than the in game password. Thank you. Added to the ever-growing, hideous, blasphemous, squamous, rugose list of the ways in which this forum software sucks, which lies dreaming in sunken R'Lyeh
Sapphrine Caldari Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.01.31 17:07:00 - [8] Originally by: Thundirr Or they could just include something like: Account Authenticator Only costs $6.5 and makes it impossible for anyone to hack your account. Thundirr out That key fob idea is pretty good and I'd gladly pay a one time cost of under ú10 for peace of mind with account security. I just hope that if they implemented it they allowed a many to one relationship.
Kane Plekkel Caldari We Are The Walrus	Posted - 2010.01.31 17:57:00 - [9] Originally by: Sapphrine That key fob idea is pretty good and I'd gladly pay a one time cost of under ú10 for peace of mind with account security. I just hope that if they implemented it they allowed a many to one relationship. Confirming I approve of many-to-one relationships. On seriouser note, there's no reason for the forum pass to be the same as the game pass (and most likely the new COSMOS pass whenever it shows up). It's one more column per row in the Account database...not a huge deal, and its not gonna cause noticable slowdown on queries. No excuse, CCP.
Vorononv Circut Minmatar The Maverick Navy IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.01.31 18:06:00 - [10] Originally by: OrDeR Seems recently there has been a number of high skill point accounts haxed and then transfered to new accounts. CCP is not returning characters which have been haxed and transfered for some unknown reason. Info appreciated. Just for curiosity's sake, got any links to back this up?
fugazii Minmatar Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.01.31 19:06:00 - [11] Originally by: Vorononv Circut Originally by: OrDeR Seems recently there has been a number of high skill point accounts haxed and then transfered to new accounts. CCP is not returning characters which have been haxed and transfered for some unknown reason. Info appreciated. Just for curiosity's sake, got any links to back this up? Ya check out totallynotakeylogger.cn to read more about it.
Of Montreal Gallente The Minutemen Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2010.01.31 21:02:00 - [12] Originally by: Vorononv Circut Originally by: OrDeR Seems recently there has been a number of high skill point accounts haxed and then transfered to new accounts. CCP is not returning characters which have been haxed and transfered for some unknown reason. Info appreciated. Just for curiosity's sake, got any links to back this up? I don't know about other players but my own experience. I recently lost an almost 70 mil SP toon and can't get it back. So this doesn't really surprise me a lot. And no I didn't purchase isk for RL money and I certainly haven't shared my login info with anyone. However such is the life of the internets. I try to put a positive spin on it and think of it as a fresh start.
Equilibrium Ambition Gallente Trigrams Edge	Posted - 2010.01.31 21:09:00 - [13] Originally by: Of Montreal Originally by: Vorononv Circut Originally by: OrDeR Seems recently there has been a number of high skill point accounts haxed and then transfered to new accounts. CCP is not returning characters which have been haxed and transfered for some unknown reason. Info appreciated. Just for curiosity's sake, got any links to back this up? I don't know about other players but my own experience. I recently lost an almost 70 mil SP toon and can't get it back. So this doesn't really surprise me a lot. And no I didn't purchase isk for RL money and I certainly haven't shared my login info with anyone. However such is the life of the internets. I try to put a positive spin on it and think of it as a fresh start. OMG wtf, CCP fail if they dont get your char back, I would be so ****ed if one of my many TE accounts got hacked,.. :(
Cors Gallente It's A Trap	Posted - 2010.01.31 21:58:00 - [14] Edited by: Cors on 31/01/2010 21:58:22 CHANGE YOUR PASSWORDS ONCE A QUARTER AT LEAST. DIFFERENT PASSWORDS FOR EACH ACCOUNT YES I KNOW I'M USING ALL CAPS. why is this such a hard thing to understand?
Tiberizzle Caldari Tactical Trading Partnership	Posted - 2010.01.31 23:21:00 - [15] Edited by: Tiberizzle on 31/01/2010 23:23:15 Originally by: Sapphrine Originally by: Thundirr Or they could just include something like: Account Authenticator Only costs $6.5 and makes it impossible for anyone to hack your account. Thundirr out That key fob idea is pretty good and I'd gladly pay a one time cost of under ú10 for peace of mind with account security. I just hope that if they implemented it they allowed a many to one relationship. Holy **. A one time password device for a MMO... **ing nerds.
ThaDollaGenerale Caldari The Illuminati. Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2010.02.01 00:23:00 - [16] PAGING NOOBJUICE
Equilibrium Ambition Gallente Trigrams Edge	Posted - 2010.02.01 01:02:00 - [17] Originally by: Tiberizzle Edited by: Tiberizzle on 31/01/2010 23:23:15 Originally by: Sapphrine Originally by: Thundirr Or they could just include something like: Account Authenticator Only costs $6.5 and makes it impossible for anyone to hack your account. Thundirr out That key fob idea is pretty good and I'd gladly pay a one time cost of under ú10 for peace of mind with account security. I just hope that if they implemented it they allowed a many to one relationship. Holy **. A one time password device for a MMO... **ing nerds. Nerd type 1 - is fat stupid and useless, stays in parents basement playing games Nerd type 2 - is fat, works and is independant but does nothing but plays games and eat take out Nerd type 3 - isnt fat usually young and average looking, usually has TV on in background and half nude pictures of girl in room, most likely a student Nerd type 4 - emotional over everything, does stupid stuff for attention, says generic crap like u mad, gets bullied at school, has acne and emorages over a single problem Nerd type 5 - is good looking, usually slim, very strategic, masters most games, leads in some way, most likely homosexual, is bobby atlas Nerd type 6 - escapes reality by playing games, has dreams about dreadnaughts griefing his cat, anti social Nerd type 7 - heavily social, gets involved or creates drama, knows all the memes, laughs in RL when something bad happens, usually thick skinned, masterbates 3 times a day Nerd type 8 - farms all day, sells in game currency all day, hacks accounts, completely selfish, is a virgin, shaves armpits Divine Story, Empress,..
OrDeR Caldari tr0pa de elite Triumvirate.	Posted - 2010.02.01 01:24:00 - [18] Originally by: Equilibrium Ambition Originally by: Tiberizzle Edited by: Tiberizzle on 31/01/2010 23:23:15 Originally by: Sapphrine Originally by: Thundirr Or they could just include something like: Account Authenticator Only costs $6.5 and makes it impossible for anyone to hack your account. Thundirr out That key fob idea is pretty good and I'd gladly pay a one time cost of under ú10 for peace of mind with account security. I just hope that if they implemented it they allowed a many to one relationship. Holy **. A one time password device for a MMO... **ing nerds. Nerd type 1 - is fat stupid and useless, stays in parents basement playing games Nerd type 2 - is fat, works and is independant but does nothing but plays games and eat take out Nerd type 3 - isnt fat usually young and average looking, usually has TV on in background and half nude pictures of girl in room, most likely a student Nerd type 4 - emotional over everything, does stupid stuff for attention, says generic crap like u mad, gets bullied at school, has acne and emorages over a single problem Nerd type 5 - is good looking, usually slim, very strategic, masters most games, leads in some way, most likely homosexual, is bobby atlas Nerd type 6 - escapes reality by playing games, has dreams about dreadnaughts griefing his cat, anti social Nerd type 7 - heavily social, gets involved or creates drama, knows all the memes, laughs in RL when something bad happens, usually thick skinned, masterbates 3 times a day Nerd type 8 - farms all day, sells in game currency all day, hacks accounts, completely selfish, is a virgin, shaves armpits Divine Story, Empress,.. Nerd 9 - Has a beard like Osama Bin Laden, is off the wagon, owns a karaoke bar, Assaults his old man, is Kitano.
Koronos Minmatar Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2010.02.01 01:27:00 - [19] Originally by: Equilibrium Ambition stuff At the risk of exposing myself to #7 categorization, you're trying too hard. Originally by: Tiberizzle Holy **. A one time password device for a MMO... **ing nerds. You play an internet pixel spaceship game m8. Get with the program. Fakedit if the profanity filter is supposed to protect tha kiddies why doesn't it extend to quoting prior posts?
Zumbala Gallente ICE is Coming to EVE Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2010.02.01 01:46:00 - [20] Originally by: Vorononv Circut Originally by: OrDeR Seems recently there has been a number of high skill point accounts haxed and then transfered to new accounts. CCP is not returning characters which have been haxed and transfered for some unknown reason. Info appreciated. Just for curiosity's sake, got any links to back this up? Just in my corp, 4 account have been hacked during the last month. Hopefully, we were able to make the account be banned quick enough to prevent the character to be transfered. But most of the assets were lost, and CCP just refund the regular insurance payout for these... AFAIK, 2 more accounts as least have been hacked in other corp of my alliance. Now, it is up to you to believe it or not, since posting chatlog with CCP staff or petition log is not allowed on these boards.
OrDeR Caldari tr0pa de elite Triumvirate.	Posted - 2010.02.01 11:18:00 - [21] Edited by: OrDeR on 01/02/2010 11:19:46 Originally by: Zumbala Originally by: Vorononv Circut Originally by: OrDeR Seems recently there has been a number of high skill point accounts haxed and then transfered to new accounts. CCP is not returning characters which have been haxed and transfered for some unknown reason. Info appreciated. Just for curiosity's sake, got any links to back this up? Just in my corp, 4 account have been hacked during the last month. Hopefully, we were able to make the account be banned quick enough to prevent the character to be transfered. But most of the assets were lost, and CCP just refund the regular insurance payout for these... AFAIK, 2 more accounts as least have been hacked in other corp of my alliance. Now, it is up to you to believe it or not, since posting chatlog with CCP staff or petition log is not allowed on these boards. Yes it does happen more then players expect. Every situation is handled differently by the GM who is looking into the case. Some will reimburse the whole sha'bang, some will give you some bull sh*t generic response. If only we lived in a eve-world were these things can be avoided. CCP: I am sorry we can not resolve this issue though I do wish you a speedy recovery (with no char)
128th ABC123 Caldari Eve Liberation Force OWN Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.01 11:50:00 - [22] Another very easy thing you can do if you are affraid to get keylogged is use a virtual keyboard. Which is available (to my knowledge) in all recent windows versions. Start > Programs > Accessories > Accessibility > On-Screen Keyboard It is an on-screen keyboard, where you click the keyboard buttons with your mouse, thereby bypassing any possible active keyloggers.
Zumbala Gallente ICE is Coming to EVE Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2010.02.01 12:01:00 - [23] Some keylogger are able to take a small screen shot of your screen around your mouse pointer each time you click. So even if it look safer, it is far from being completely safe.
Potty Caldari No.Mercy Gentlemen's Club	Posted - 2010.02.01 12:20:00 - [24] Originally by: Zumbala Some keylogger are able to take a small screen shot of your screen around your mouse pointer each time you click. So even if it look safer, it is far from being completely safe. He knows too much!!! GET HIM edit: ta for the info though. A useful thread in COAD, first since may '04 :P Potts
Mashie Saldana Minmatar Red Federation	Posted - 2010.02.01 12:42:00 - [25] I wonder if the people who can't get their hijacked accounts back aren't the original owners of said accounts? The process to get a hijacked account back is to produce the orignal cc, address and similar details which can be hard if the account originates from lost friends/ebay. Say no to 24000byte sig limit.
Kitano Caldari tr0pa de elite Triumvirate.	Posted - 2010.02.01 13:05:00 - [26] Quote: Nerd 9 - Has a beard like Osama Bin Laden, is off the wagon, owns a karaoke bar, Assaults his old man, is Kitano. i just opened a nice bottle of plonk and thought about hitting my old man. I wont stay up too late cause I have work at the bar 2morrow and need to shave... posting in orders biggest ever thread on CAOD and while im at it... who else thinks order and I are the same person... AHH!!!!! ya fat
Muad' Dib Gallente Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2010.02.01 15:26:00 - [27] Originally by: ThaDollaGenerale PAGING NOOBJUICE Hope he got the char back. :( --- I smack just for myself. Allow faction cap boosters to be traded via normal market !
Remy Wolf Gallente Wolf Pack Enterprises Werewolves.	Posted - 2010.02.01 15:47:00 - [28] We recently had this happen to an account in my corp. An old account that had been passed to a trusted corp member when the original owner decided to stop playing. We've since lost contact with the original owner and now the account's locked down until we can get in touch or convince ccp that a year of someone else paying on the account probably indicates that they are the proper user these days. We're not sure how the hacker got the account info, the current user is very careful, but it happens. Could have been brute force, could have been a particularly sneaky key logger, could have been a lot of things.
Mag's Caldari the united Negative Ten.	Posted - 2010.02.01 15:48:00 - [29] Originally by: Sapphrine Originally by: Thundirr Or they could just include something like: Account Authenticator Only costs $6.5 and makes it impossible for anyone to hack your account. Thundirr out That key fob idea is pretty good and I'd gladly pay a one time cost of under ú10 for peace of mind with account security. I just hope that if they implemented it they allowed a many to one relationship. I'd pay for one of those too, tbh ú20 wouldn't be a problem either. CCP need to start looking into this more, this whole subject is going south rather quick.
Marlona Sky Caldari D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2010.02.01 15:55:00 - [30] Originally by: Thundirr Or they could just include something like: Account Authenticator Only costs $6.5 and makes it impossible for anyone to hack your account. Thundirr out It's the same thing (almost) as locks used on ATM's and other such safes in banks. I would be down for that. It's over 9000 times safer than this, "Hey! Lets make their account log in information the same as what they use for the forums." crap. Funny how a game that if your account is hacked you can easily replace everything by grinding for a couple weeks has far superious security than EVE where if you get hacked, you lose up to 6 years worth of time in skills. CCP, are you working on something to make our investment more secure?
Atra Lupus Minmatar Interstellar Brotherhood of Gravediggers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.01 17:22:00 - [31] There is no need of pointless gizmos "to protect your password". Simply make sure that your OS is using all the latest security patches (understand Windows) and your AV software and firewall are up to date and properly configured. I can recommend anyone to use the Comodo software - it free and includes AV and great firewall. Scan regularly your PC and of course you should not make the stupidity to open suspicious page or download malicious software (this is the hardest part for most of the people). Change regularly your account password to new unique one every few months as well and this password should be strong, respectively hard for cracking, if anybody is "sniffing your packets". If you are doing the above mentioned things and got IQ over 80, you should not experience issues cased by hackers and you will be sure that the security of your PC and EVE is high. PS: Do not use Internet Explorer FFS!
Maikar Gallente Solstice Systems Development Concourse Distant Drums	Posted - 2010.02.01 17:33:00 - [32] My best friend had his INACTIVE account hacked. He only knew about it because he had received an email stating his character transfer had been successful.... He got his character back, though.
Equilibrium Ambition Gallente Trigrams Edge	Posted - 2010.02.01 19:36:00 - [33] Changing your password doesnt matter, much sure you should do it every 6 month for anything but this only protects your account from wandering eyes, if you have a keylog on your comp, changing your password wont do much,.. It is somewhat a pain if you play games in a public environment like an internet cafe, but yeah I think if you are unfortunate to have this happen to you in a fixed location (your home) CCP should be able to reverse the problem,.. Saying that they should make it so ALL transfers require you to validate via e-mail before the transfer occurs, I think I would be pretty ****ed if I lost any of my chars, it isnt so much because of the SP but because of the name and actual work put into that char and well people identifying you with that char,.. :)
Cipreh Minmatar Clann Fian Revival Of The Talocan Empire	Posted - 2010.02.01 21:36:00 - [34] Edited by: Cipreh on 01/02/2010 21:36:28 A good way to protect yourself from keyloggers, is to have all your passwords saved in a text file somewhere (not in "My Documents" and somewhere not in plain view), and then copy and paste them into the proper fields. I would only recommend this if you're the only one who has access to your computer though, for obvious reasons. Also, the more difficult your password the less likely you are to get hacked. I know there are plenty of people out there with stupidly simple passwords, or whole words, alphabetically consecutive letters, consecutive numbers, and repeating patterns which are all signs of a weak password. Letters, numbers, spaces,and symbols, should all be used in your passwords, some programs and sites do not allow the use of symbols or spaces in passwords, but the majority do at this point. Your account security is in your hands, and it's not anyones job but your own to make sure your computer is secure.
Equilibrium Ambition Gallente Trigrams Edge	Posted - 2010.02.01 22:19:00 - [35] Originally by: Cipreh Edited by: Cipreh on 01/02/2010 21:36:28 A good way to protect yourself from keyloggers, is to have all your passwords saved in a text file somewhere (not in "My Documents" and somewhere not in plain view), and then copy and paste them into the proper fields. I would only recommend this if you're the only one who has access to your computer though, for obvious reasons. Also, the more difficult your password the less likely you are to get hacked. I know there are plenty of people out there with stupidly simple passwords, or whole words, alphabetically consecutive letters, consecutive numbers, and repeating patterns which are all signs of a weak password. Letters, numbers, spaces,and symbols, should all be used in your passwords, some programs and sites do not allow the use of symbols or spaces in passwords, but the majority do at this point. Your account security is in your hands, and it's not anyones job but your own to make sure your computer is secure. Do keyloggers actually fail when it comes to copy pastas?,.. I have considered your suggestion before but data miners and **** could come with the keylogger, tbh I have never been hacked or have a security breach, that isnt to say it wont happen,.. :D
boazikos Caldari KIA Corporation RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.01 22:33:00 - [36] The best way to protect your account is to never type your username. They get the password but not the login hehehehe. Out of ****ing nowhere is David HotDropOff
damgood85 Gallente Gladiators of Rage Systematic-Chaos	Posted - 2010.02.01 22:35:00 - [37] Originally by: Cipreh Edited by: Cipreh on 01/02/2010 21:36:28 A good way to make yourself vulnerable to hackers, is to have all your passwords saved in a text file somewhere (not in "My Documents" and somewhere not in plain view), and then copy and paste them into the proper fields. I would only recommend this if you're the only one who has access to your computer though, for obvious reasons. Also, the more difficult your password the less likely you are to get hacked. I know there are plenty of people out there with stupidly simple passwords, or whole words, alphabetically consecutive letters, consecutive numbers, and repeating patterns which are all signs of a weak password. Letters, numbers, spaces,and symbols, should all be used in your passwords, some programs and sites do not allow the use of symbols or spaces in passwords, but the majority do at this point. Your account security is in your hands, and it's not anyones job but your own to make sure your computer is secure. Fixed that for you. -------------------------------- Originally by: CCP Lemur Dear angry customer!
Seiver D'amross Gallente Hostile Aggression Initiative Mercenaries	Posted - 2010.02.02 03:27:00 - [38] i have a key token for FFXI and would gladly get one for EVE as well. P3N15 orders mum :p _____________________________________________________ I shal stand tall and shake the heavens with my power
Thundirr Amarr Mercurialis Inc. RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.02 04:12:00 - [39] Originally by: Sapphrine Originally by: Thundirr Or they could just include something like: Account Authenticator Only costs $6.5 and makes it impossible for anyone to hack your account. Thundirr out That key fob idea is pretty good and I'd gladly pay a one time cost of under ú10 for peace of mind with account security. I just hope that if they implemented it they allowed a many to one relationship. Just confirmed, Used the same keybob on 2 seperate WOW accounts. Both accounts have different email contact info, so its possible to have a 'Many to One' ratio. Thundirr out.
Dal' Hassen Minmatar MASS	Posted - 2010.02.02 04:13:00 - [40] i propose fingerprint or retina scanning for account authentication
OrDeR Caldari tr0pa de elite Triumvirate.	Posted - 2010.02.02 08:22:00 - [41] Originally by: Seiver D'amross i have a key token for FFXI and would gladly get one for EVE as well. P3N15 orders mum :p Indeed she has not been pen15'd in some time. Init mercs = Maru kage = poo
Seiver D'amross Gallente Hostile Aggression Initiative Mercenaries	Posted - 2010.02.02 10:14:00 - [42] Originally by: Thundirr Originally by: Sapphrine Originally by: Thundirr Or they could just include something like: Account Authenticator Only costs $6.5 and makes it impossible for anyone to hack your account. Thundirr out That key fob idea is pretty good and I'd gladly pay a one time cost of under ú10 for peace of mind with account security. I just hope that if they implemented it they allowed a many to one relationship. Just confirmed, Used the same keybob on 2 seperate WOW accounts. Both accounts have different email contact info, so its possible to have a 'Many to One' ratio. Thundirr out. FFXI is 10 accounts to one token _____________________________________________________ I shal stand tall and shake the heavens with my power
Rev Fernie Caldari Beyond Divinity Inc	Posted - 2010.02.02 16:19:00 - [43] If this is really happening it is a poor show from CCP Surely CCP can identify if a character transfer has been made using a Credit Card with different name to the account owner? Maybe CCP can send an email notification for confirmation of a requested character transfer, a bit like a forum activation. After all its accounts being hacked and not private email accounts?! Is it? Perhaps players that are concerned about this could petition CCP in advance saying "I will not be selling or moving my characters in the next 12 months, if it happens it is not me!" If we do want to sell or move a character we can put CCP on notice of our intent, I'm guessing people usually know they want to do this sometime before they do it.
Jitannya Caldari BOSS. Industries	Posted - 2010.02.02 17:40:00 - [44] Edited by: Jitannya on 02/02/2010 17:41:25 Originally by: 128th ABC123 Another very easy thing you can do if you are affraid to get keylogged is use a virtual keyboard. Which is available (to my knowledge) in all recent windows versions. Start > Programs > Accessories > Accessibility > On-Screen Keyboard It is an on-screen keyboard, where you click the keyboard buttons with your mouse, thereby bypassing any possible active keyloggers. copy and paste FTW Hulkageddon?
Joe Stalin Caldari Unknown-Entity Initiative Mercenaries	Posted - 2010.02.02 22:03:00 - [45] I surf the forums and clicky the linky all I want, cause I do that on my Linux machine. I play Eve on a Windows box and really nothing else, just cause running 3 clients is smoother that way. I can click all the links I want, your Windows based keylogger means nothing to me, bring it MuhahaHAHAhahahaaaaa (evil criminal mastermind voice)
Equilibrium Ambition Gallente Trigrams Edge	Posted - 2010.02.02 22:06:00 - [46] Originally by: Rev Fernie If this is really happening it is a poor show from CCP Surely CCP can identify if a character transfer has been made using a Credit Card with different name to the account owner? Maybe CCP can send an email notification for confirmation of a requested character transfer, a bit like a forum activation. After all its accounts being hacked and not private email accounts?! Is it? Perhaps players that are concerned about this could petition CCP in advance saying "I will not be selling or moving my characters in the next 12 months, if it happens it is not me!" If we do want to sell or move a character we can put CCP on notice of our intent, I'm guessing people usually know they want to do this sometime before they do it. Pretty much this, I think when a e-mail change / account request is made, it will require the account holder to CONFIRM via e-mail if he wants it changed, this will prevent changing e-mails too,.. WTB more security,..
Lt Forge Caldari Pilots From Honour Aeternus.	Posted - 2010.02.02 22:28:00 - [47] Edited by: Lt Forge on 02/02/2010 22:27:58 If we just remove the forums, then there wouldn't be any hacking issues.
Equilibrium Ambition Gallente Trigrams Edge	Posted - 2010.02.02 22:35:00 - [48] Originally by: Lt Forge Edited by: Lt Forge on 02/02/2010 22:27:58 If we just remove the forums, then there wouldn't be any hacking issues. Lets not get hysterical here, can you imagine how bad EvE would be without Derek Chu?,..
Tibalt Avalon Amarr Suck my Titan Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2010.02.02 23:44:00 - [49] Originally by: OrDeR Originally by: Equilibrium Ambition Originally by: Tiberizzle Edited by: Tiberizzle on 31/01/2010 23:23:15 Holy **. A one time password device for a MMO... **ing nerds. Nerd type 1 - is fat stupid and useless, stays in parents basement playing games Nerd type 2 - is fat, works and is independant but does nothing but plays games and eat take out Nerd type 3 - isnt fat usually young and average looking, usually has TV on in background and half nude pictures of girl in room, most likely a student Nerd type 4 - emotional over everything, does stupid stuff for attention, says generic crap like u mad, gets bullied at school, has acne and emorages over a single problem Nerd type 5 - is good looking, usually slim, very strategic, masters most games, leads in some way, most likely homosexual, is bobby atlas Nerd type 6 - escapes reality by playing games, has dreams about dreadnaughts griefing his cat, anti social Nerd type 7 - heavily social, gets involved or creates drama, knows all the memes, laughs in RL when something bad happens, usually thick skinned, masterbates 3 times a day Nerd type 8 - farms all day, sells in game currency all day, hacks accounts, completely selfish, is a virgin, shaves armpits Divine Story, Empress,.. Nerd 9 - Has a beard like Osama Bin Laden, is off the wagon, owns a karaoke bar, Assaults his old man, is Kitano. What about a compilations of all 9 different types? Hardstyle Ambassador
OrDeR Caldari tr0pa de elite Triumvirate.	Posted - 2010.02.03 04:27:00 - [50] Originally by: Tibalt Avalon Originally by: OrDeR Originally by: Equilibrium Ambition Originally by: Tiberizzle Edited by: Tiberizzle on 31/01/2010 23:23:15 Holy **. A one time password device for a MMO... **ing nerds. Nerd type 1 - is fat stupid and useless, stays in parents basement playing games Nerd type 2 - is fat, works and is independant but does nothing but plays games and eat take out Nerd type 3 - isnt fat usually young and average looking, usually has TV on in background and half nude pictures of girl in room, most likely a student Nerd type 4 - emotional over everything, does stupid stuff for attention, says generic crap like u mad, gets bullied at school, has acne and emorages over a single problem Nerd type 5 - is good looking, usually slim, very strategic, masters most games, leads in some way, most likely homosexual, is bobby atlas Nerd type 6 - escapes reality by playing games, has dreams about dreadnaughts griefing his cat, anti social Nerd type 7 - heavily social, gets involved or creates drama, knows all the memes, laughs in RL when something bad happens, usually thick skinned, masterbates 3 times a day Nerd type 8 - farms all day, sells in game currency all day, hacks accounts, completely selfish, is a virgin, shaves armpits Divine Story, Empress,.. Nerd 9 - Has a beard like Osama Bin Laden, is off the wagon, owns a karaoke bar, Assaults his old man, is Kitano. What about a compilations of all 9 different types? No such thing. Closest you will get is 1/2/4/6/9 = apple boy.

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