Just for the record, I would like to add that the CCL team is watched very closely by CCP and if/when required, CCP will intervene should they feel it necessary, this includes speaking with CCL members IF they should step over the line. We do not have free reign on the forums to moderate threads as we please. CCP has laid down strict rules and policies that all ISD members agreed to follow and uphold when they volunteered to join the program, this includes having our main characters closely monitored by CCP for any hint of foul play or breach of the rules. We are governed by exactly the same rules as everyone else

Like you, we love the game and love the community. We are trying to do our part to make it better for everyone.

To some pilots, it may seem like we are just abusing our 'powers' and editing threads/posts as we see fit. This is not the case and could not be further from the truth..

EVE Online has a PEGI 12 rating, and as such, CCP have a legal obligation to ensure that any content contained within the game (forums/website included) is suitable for persons aged as young as 12 years old.

EVE provides a great opportunity for families to enjoy the game and above all else, EVE Online provides an escape from all the stresses that RL throws at us. Why would you want to come home after a long day at the office, just to sign onto the forums to read a bunch of threads that seem to represent your day at the office.

The next time your post/thread is moderated. Take a good look at it and have a think about why it was moderated. How would others view it, would they be offended? Is it suitable for a 12 year old? Is it even understandable?

Even 12 year old Timmy who cannot wait to fly his first Falcon.

I feel the opposite, In my office everyone is nice and polite because it's a proffesional prerequisite, I come to EVE because it is harsh and unforgiving, people in EVE may hate me and I may hate them but it's all in a sandbox where nobody gets hurt. If I don't want that in a game I would go play a different game.

I suppose the point I'm trying to make is, CCP need to settle on a direction before they can presume to tell there playerbase what that direction is, you cannot foster cruelty and then complain when people are cruel.

useless crap

I want to be clear as well, nobody's arguing that the ISD's shouldn't be deleting the posts and locking the threads of the couple of people who posted above me (besides Ghazu).

John'eh, Bart Starr, and TRUE ZER0, we have EVESearch. We can easily look up your posts and discover exactly what flavor of scum (or scum sympathizer) you are.

If CCP wants to make this forum inhospitable to discussion, that's their right. People will move to other forums the same way most other MMOs' official forums are largely abandoned.

So where's the stickied thread to replace this as a place to discuss moderation?

I said you wanted to bury the topic, not explode it (as locking or deleting it would).

In the meantime, how has this thread "fulfilled its purpose" of

Wonderful. Hopefully it can be filled with pages of posts that look like the middle of this thread*.

*The most productive part, after the first part which had a lot of "welp the CCL idea has failed" and before we got bogged down in simply reporting on a series of crises.


As I've said a number of times. I hope the CCL can succeed. But I think they need much more training and experience (the old refrain "lurk moar" comes to mind) to be successful. There's only so many times you can claim growing pains without it becoming farcical.

we have a problem all right, if you think the community is well served by the volunteers & your attitude you're out of your volcan mind.

will you please just shutup, you are the worst shitposter I've seen in ages.

Why don't you apply that logic to the posters you think should be moderated?

Cause you're stupid.

There needs to be some oversight here. This guy is clearly hostile toward the player base. We have no recourse. File petition, he'll just delete it. Someone at CCP who's not involved with the Eve community team needs to review the petitions.

stuff

rabble rabble."

I am really tired of this sort of thing from Devs/ISD. Stop power tripping. Stop giving commands. Stop being like this. You guys spend more time moderating than solving basic game problems. You want to power trip? Go do something about the clusterfuck you've created with the war dec system.