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Zhilia Mann	Posted - 2010.02.04 00:08:00 - [31] Cerb is fine if you know what to do with it. Support suppression really is a legitimate role, btw. And as even I'm tired of hearing myself say, it absolutely demolishes L2 missions.
Jim Raynor Caldari Sinister Corporation	Posted - 2010.02.04 04:17:00 - [32] Originally by: Zhilia Mann Cerb is fine if you know what to do with it. Support suppression really is a legitimate role, btw. And as even I'm tired of hearing myself say, it absolutely demolishes L2 missions. you can run level 4s in a cerberus quite easily actually ------ I'll make a sig later.
Mahke Aeon Of Strife	Posted - 2010.02.04 07:08:00 - [33] Originally by: Zhilia Mann Cerb is fine if you know what to do with it........it absolutely demolishes L2 missions. /thread This summarizes things nicely.
Strongbow Snow	Posted - 2010.02.04 15:32:00 - [34] Originally by: AnKahn Actually like this ship in current form, must have been nice before when it was stronger. Requires you to think for yourself a little. More like a Falcon than a Drake. You hear what the FC wants done then do what you have to to get 'er done. you can't just warp around like a school of fish you have to make sure you land on the battle field at range. Once you are 100KM from everyone else you are pretty untouchable. Anything comming to get you you can kill before they get there. Which means you sometimes have to switch off the primary, have situational awarness and independant thinking. This is useful abilities for a lot of other more niche ships so good training to make yourself a better pilot. Damage is good on most enemy ships. And that delay in damage? Like the Joker says, "I prefer the knife over the gun. The gun is too quick". You don't want to be tackled with a few cerbs anywhere on the field. But yea, fly a Drake. Not really that much cheaper tho. Really now want to try out the Eagle for comparison. +1 This guy has seen them used as I have. If you don't have a role for it (and I'm not about to spill the beans on those), then don't fly it. It could be a solo-ship against lesser targets, but why use it over other options?
Matharos The Perfect Storm Gentlemen's Club	Posted - 2010.02.04 16:33:00 - [35] Originally by: Jim Raynor Edited by: Jim Raynor on 04/02/2010 04:27:02 Originally by: Zhilia Mann Cerb is fine if you know what to do with it. Support suppression really is a legitimate role, btw. And as even I'm tired of hearing myself say, it absolutely demolishes L2 missions. you can run level 4s in a cerberus quite easily actually Originally by: Abortica Inbortaliss Here is a nice video of a Cerb solo pvping in providence, this is Lord Mack from Ushra Kahn, YOU TUBE I've used a similar fit.. injector + 650m3 cargo bay is the key to the solo cerberus. :) Something like this? [Cerberus, Booster] Damage Control II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Invulnerability Field II Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800 Large C5-L Emergency Shield Overload I J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile [empty high slot] Medium Ancillary Current Router I Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Grimpak Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2010.02.04 16:45:00 - [36] Originally by: Strongbow Snow Originally by: AnKahn Actually like this ship in current form, must have been nice before when it was stronger. Requires you to think for yourself a little. More like a Falcon than a Drake. You hear what the FC wants done then do what you have to to get 'er done. you can't just warp around like a school of fish you have to make sure you land on the battle field at range. Once you are 100KM from everyone else you are pretty untouchable. Anything comming to get you you can kill before they get there. Which means you sometimes have to switch off the primary, have situational awarness and independant thinking. This is useful abilities for a lot of other more niche ships so good training to make yourself a better pilot. Damage is good on most enemy ships. And that delay in damage? Like the Joker says, "I prefer the knife over the gun. The gun is too quick". You don't want to be tackled with a few cerbs anywhere on the field. But yea, fly a Drake. Not really that much cheaper tho. Really now want to try out the Eagle for comparison. +1 This guy has seen them used as I have. If you don't have a role for it (and I'm not about to spill the beans on those), then don't fly it. It could be a solo-ship against lesser targets, but why use it over other options? cerb is, probably, the best long range fire support/anti-support HAC ingame. the eagle can hit farther but it does much less dps, and both the zealot and muninn fall short since they only go for half the range it can shoot. also the sentry ishtar can't shoot as farther as it can. I see the cerb as a true long range support/anti-support due to the extreme sphere of influence it can project vs any other HAC (besides eagle) and 2-3 cerbs in any gang can scare off pretty much any sort of ship on grid. they are, however, extremely soft targets, so you should keep at range and aligned at all times, and warp out as soon as you see someone coming in closer than 100km of you, because as soon as you get a tackler on you, you're probably going down. this is somewhat the eagle can overcome due to the fact that it can actually try to shoot down incoming tacklers, if you're at long range. --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
AnKahn Caldari Unknown-Entity Initiative Mercenaries	Posted - 2010.02.04 18:28:00 - [37] So you fly them like a steath bomber without the steath. You just pretend everyone is just kinda nearsighted.
Grimpak Gallente Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2010.02.04 18:41:00 - [38] Originally by: AnKahn So you fly them like a steath bomber without the steath. You just pretend everyone is just kinda nearsighted. it's more like "if your FC asks for everyone to warp at 10, you warp at 100, and start aligning when you land." bombers have stealth, cerbs have omfg range. --- Quote: The more I know about humans, the more I love animals. ain't that right.
Jim Raynor Caldari Sinister Corporation	Posted - 2010.02.04 19:40:00 - [39] Originally by: Matharos Originally by: Jim Raynor Edited by: Jim Raynor on 04/02/2010 04:27:02 Originally by: Zhilia Mann Cerb is fine if you know what to do with it. Support suppression really is a legitimate role, btw. And as even I'm tired of hearing myself say, it absolutely demolishes L2 missions. you can run level 4s in a cerberus quite easily actually Originally by: Abortica Inbortaliss Here is a nice video of a Cerb solo pvping in providence, this is Lord Mack from Ushra Kahn, YOU TUBE I've used a similar fit.. injector + 650m3 cargo bay is the key to the solo cerberus. :) Something like this? [Cerberus, Booster] Damage Control II Ballistic Control System II Ballistic Control System II Nanofiber Internal Structure II Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive Invulnerability Field II Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800 Large C5-L Emergency Shield Overload I J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Heavy Missile [empty high slot] Medium Ancillary Current Router I Medium Ancillary Current Router I Active tank... it can work but the Cerbs cap is kind of a liability even with the injector and with the MWD too it's going to be rough.. I would go LSE with injector.. but ya something like that :P ------ I'll make a sig later.
AnKahn Caldari Unknown-Entity Initiative Mercenaries	Posted - 2010.02.04 20:40:00 - [40] Please guys. It's not a Drake. Maybe with logi support it could "solo". Lost mine only cause I warped to zero by mistake. Wish I could block that command sometimes. Your only chance is against little guys that don't hug the gate or station if you're talking about tanking. You can handle some guns in falloff. Lazors are scarry like to any shield tanker. There are REALLY REALLY some ships that aren't designed for solo. I'm sure you can....but why?

bestower 1	Posted - 2010.02.04 21:30:00 - [41] Originally by: AnKahn Please guys. There are REALLY REALLY some ships that aren't designed for solo. "just because you can doesn't mean you should" fixed


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