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assel Military of Germany 0	Posted - 2012.06.27 00:56:00 - [1] - Quote Dear CCP, thank you for implementing a previously rare and valuable item into the NeX store and throwing it away for 500 Aurum. The Womens Executor Coat Red/Gold was initially a bonus to the Russian Collector's Edition. As far as I remember unique ships and items from collectors editions and special boxed releases of the game were always exclusive and therefore a sure investment in Eve Online. Considering this fact I have been stockpiling 8 of these coats as a slow growing investment for the future. Until Sunday each of these coats was worth ober 350 million ISK. Now you implement them for for 500 Aurum and thus dropping the price to 50 million each. CCP, you just screwed every collector and investor of limited issue items. You cost me 2.4 billion ISK, just by not checking which items were already available in Eve and how their market value was pre-patch. That must have been the greatest slap in the face I have ever received in Eve Online. I do await a statement from CCP regarding this matter!
Christopher Dulson Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 36	Posted - 2012.06.27 00:58:00 - [2] - Quote The real problem that you face is that the CCP CEO is ginger and he is trying to inflict the kind of pain that he goes through on a daily basis just for being born with the red headed curse. Karn Dulake approves this message
Xercodo Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Dark Matter Coalition 1155	Posted - 2012.06.27 00:59:00 - [3] - Quote I'm pretty sure these were on SiSi at the current price...you could have foreseen this. The Drake is a Lie
Akirei Scytale Test Alliance Please Ignore 1672	Posted - 2012.06.27 00:59:00 - [4] - Quote ** happens. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance**
assel Military of Germany 0	Posted - 2012.06.27 01:02:00 - [5] - Quote I just checked the market a little more. Apperently the Ishukone Special edition shirt is also sold for 500 Aurum. That one went for 2 billion ISK apiece til Sunday! I own one of these. Now they are sold for 38 million ISK. So you cost me over 4.3 billion ISK in investments in a single patch. Are you serious CCP? Why do you troll us that much?
Price Check Aisle3 97	Posted - 2012.06.27 01:03:00 - [6] - Quote lol investment. - Karl Hobb IATS
Akirei Scytale Test Alliance Please Ignore 1672	Posted - 2012.06.27 01:04:00 - [7] - Quote assel wrote: I just checked the market a little more. Apperently the Ishukone Special edition shirt is also sold for 500 Aurum. That one went for 2 billion ISK apiece til Sunday! I own one of these. Now they are sold for 38 million ISK. So you cost me over 4.3 billion ISK in investments in a single patch. Are you serious CCP? Why do you troll us that much? Its almost as bad as the sorts of losses that happen on a daily basis in nullsec! Seriously, quit your goddamn whining and deal with it. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance
ACE McFACE 24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire 715	Posted - 2012.06.27 01:05:00 - [8] - Quote assel wrote: I just checked the market a little more. Apperently the Ishukone Special edition shirt is also sold for 500 Aurum. That one went for 2 billion ISK apiece til Sunday! I own one of these. Now they are sold for 38 million ISK. So you cost me over 4.3 billion ISK in investments in a single patch. Are you serious CCP? Why do you troll us that much? Like an above poster said, you could have checked on sisi. I just gotta go fast!
Tarsus Zateki GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 608	Posted - 2012.06.27 01:06:00 - [9] - Quote assel wrote: That must have been the greatest slap in the face I have ever received in Eve Online. Look at you, being all entitled and acting like you matter at all. You asked me once, what was in Room 101. I told you that you knew the answer already. Everyone knows it. The thing that is in Room 101 is the worst thing in the world.
Opodiphthera Eucalypti Lepdoptera Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 26	Posted - 2012.06.27 01:08:00 - [10] - Quote https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=125622&find=unread Those digital clothes will be all wet with tears.

Kimmi Chan Illuminatus Reforged The Revenant Order 167	Posted - 2012.06.27 01:09:00 - [11] - Quote Welcome to the cut-throat word of internet spaceship game apparel. -á"Miners mine so I don't have to." ~Metal Icarus
Pipa Porto School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 20	Posted - 2012.06.27 01:12:00 - [12] - Quote assel wrote: As far as I remember unique ships and items from collectors editions and special boxed releases of the game were always exclusive and therefore a sure investment in Eve Online. The Zephyr (and many other special items) says Hi. If you hear the words "sure investment" in EvE, get ready to lose money. -RubyPorto IB4TS
assel Military of Germany 0	Posted - 2012.06.27 01:14:00 - [13] - Quote Im not whining, I am complaining. I do understand lots of people, espacially from nullsec alliances, have little love for the NeX store, clothing or anything else in that regard. But my point is not about that. Its about collectible items in Eve. How would PL feel if their tournament ships were sold for 500 Aurums in the NeX store or the Quafe Mark IV or any other item in Eve that got its high value from the rarity it has, because it was released in limited time offers or very special (often expasive) deals? There are some people in this game that just suffer from CCP not checking closely what they are doing. Might be 0.0 alliances loose well over 4 billion a day in fights, but for once they now what they are up to when they pick a fight, for me as a single player over 4 billion loss, just because someone at CCP didnt check or care is a massive blow. Just realize, that 10 months of gametime. Trolled by CCP. Thanks for throwing away collectible clothing items for 500 Aurum.
Kimmi Chan Illuminatus Reforged The Revenant Order 167	Posted - 2012.06.27 01:18:00 - [14] - Quote You purchased those items through a transaction that involved an existing currency in the world outside of Eve, If people are spending Aura in the NeX store for this stuff - guess what kind of transaction is actually taking place? In truth you are upset that you lost money on an investment - don't worry it happens all the time. -á"Miners mine so I don't have to." ~Metal Icarus
Pipa Porto School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 20	Posted - 2012.06.27 01:19:00 - [15] - Quote assel wrote: Im not whining, I am complaining. I do understand lots of people, espacially from nullsec alliances, have little love for the NeX store, clothing or anything else in that regard. But my point is not about that. Its about collectible items in Eve. How would PL feel if their tournament ships were sold for 500 Aurums in the NeX store or the Quafe Mark IV or any other item in Eve that got its high value from the rarity it has, because it was released in limited time offers or very special (often expasive) deals? There are some people in this game that just suffer from CCP not checking closely what they are doing. Might be 0.0 alliances loose well over 4 billion a day in fights, but for once they now what they are up to when they pick a fight, for me as a single player over 4 billion loss, just because someone at CCP didnt check or care is a massive blow. Just realize, that 10 months of gametime. You win a Tournament for your t-shirt? -RubyPorto IB4TS
Akirei Scytale Test Alliance Please Ignore 1675	Posted - 2012.06.27 01:19:00 - [16] - Quote assel wrote: Im not whining, I am complaining. quoted for posterity. also, its spelled "lose". TEST Alliance BEST Alliance
MeBiatch Republic University Minmatar Republic 440	Posted - 2012.06.27 01:20:00 - [17] - Quote Xercodo wrote: I'm pretty sure these were on SiSi at the current price...you could have foreseen this. ! wait dmc is still active... hi this is 5-j saying hello mad pact foreverz bro PLEX FOR PIZZA! -áThere are no stupid Questions... just stupid people...
Ariel Marquette University of Caille Gallente Federation 16	Posted - 2012.06.27 01:21:00 - [18] - Quote CCP produced some limited edition items that were coveted by a large portion of the playerbase. The items, unfortunately, were only in the hands of the few who bought boxed versions of the game in specific countries or had a mountain of RL cash to go to Fanfest. At a certain demand point, it makes great financial sense for CCP to inject these items into the game at a reasonable AUR price. Every PLEX in the game was a $20 addition to CCP's bottom line. Whether the jackets / shirts / widgets cost 500 AUR or 2,000 AUR is largely irrelevant, as most people that want the vest have probably expended all of the free AUR they received for EVE is Real promotions. Therefore, to get the paltry 500 AUR necessary to buy this item, a $20 PLEX must be converted and thus removed from the game. Now, each of these $20 PLEXes removed to create a small pile of AUR is no longer available for the space-rich folks who want to pay for their multiple accounts entirely with ISK. This means the price of PLEX will steadily rise, creating an incentive for more people to pay the $20 to inject more PLEX into the game to meet the demand. So, the best investment here was in producing limited edition items with the full intention of making them readily available if the demand was significant. CCP will likely make a tidy profit on the extra PLEX sales. In the process, they've created some tears from folks like the OP who wanted to fleece the plebes for outrageous sums of ISK. As everyone knows that EVE runs on tears--and the tears of the elite offer better mileage than the tears of the masses--I'd say this was a good idea on all fronts.
Akirei Scytale Test Alliance Please Ignore 1675	Posted - 2012.06.27 01:22:00 - [19] - Quote assel wrote: Might be 0.0 alliances loose well over 4 billion a day in fights, but for once they now what they are up to when they pick a fight, for me as a single player over 4 billion loss, just because someone at CCP didnt check or care is a massive blow. not alliances, individuals. and you should have known what you were getting into as soon as you started playing EVE. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance
Pipa Porto School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 20	Posted - 2012.06.27 01:36:00 - [20] - Quote Akirei Scytale wrote: assel wrote: Might be 0.0 alliances loose well over 4 billion a day in fights, but for once they now what they are up to when they pick a fight, for me as a single player over 4 billion loss, just because someone at CCP didnt check or care is a massive blow. not alliances, individuals. and you should have known what you were getting into as soon as you started playing EVE. There's also the people who were left holding the bag on Datacores. -RubyPorto IB4TS

assel Military of Germany 0	Posted - 2012.06.27 01:37:00 - [21] - Quote Yeah might be every once in a while people lose (happy now?) tremendous sums of ISK, and not seldom because of stupid behaviour (like shipping 20 plex in a shuttle), but thats quite a different matter. Its about rare and collectible items in Eve. I dont have a russian collectors edition handy, but I bet somewhere on the box they advertise the Executor Coat Red/Gold as a special collectors edition item, maybe even saying "only available with this box". Someone who got that please check for me whats exactly on the box. Same goes for the 13x Plex Ishukone Special Edition. It even says special edition in its name. Now they sell it for 500 Aurum. Thats really very "special". Trolled by CCP. Thanks for throwing away collectible clothing items for 500 Aurum.
Nyreanya Serenity Labs New Eden Research. 254	Posted - 2012.06.27 01:38:00 - [22] - Quote Ariel Marquette wrote: As everyone knows that EVE runs on tears--and the tears of the elite offer better mileage than the tears of the masses. +1 just for this sentence. Not everyone thinks the same way you do. This doesn't automatically make them wrong.
Pipa Porto School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 20	Posted - 2012.06.27 01:42:00 - [23] - Quote assel wrote: Yeah might be every once in a while people lose (happy now?) tremendous sums of ISK, and not seldom because of stupid behaviour (like shipping 20 plex in a shuttle), but thats quite a different matter. Its about rare and collectible items in Eve. I dont have a russian collectors edition handy, but I bet somewhere on the box they advertise the Executor Coat Red/Gold as a special collectors edition item, maybe even saying "only available with this box". Someone who got that please check for me whats exactly on the box. Same goes for the 13x Plex Ishukone Special Edition. It even says special edition in its name. Now they sell it for 500 Aurum. Thats really very "special". You got the collector's edition item. You got use of it. Exactly as advertised. Unless the box said "Will never be available ever again," your whine is up a creek. -RubyPorto IB4TS
Lipbite Express Hauler 103	Posted - 2012.06.27 01:54:00 - [24] - Quote Xercodo wrote: I'm pretty sure these were on SiSi at the current price...you could have foreseen this. Nope. I've checked Sisi multiple times before patch. There were only 2 items in NeX on Sisi before patch - as I remember these were male pants + male red/gold coat. That's why there were multiple buy orders for 150-300mil on TQ right after downrtime - nobody expected CCP may screw up that badly by introducint "collector" item into NeX for cheap. People who expected this (like me =) ) made billions during few seconds after DT selling freshly purchased coats to old 150-300mil buying orders. Same for ishukone shirt. For me (15 years in MMOs + real clothing shops / retail experience) it is clear CCP doesn't have any experience and clues about avatars, NeX, retail, micro-transactions, etc. I expect more screw ups during their experiments - like 500AUR cheap left/gold monocles for example.
Jada Maroo Mysterium Astrometrics 750	Posted - 2012.06.27 03:50:00 - [25] - Quote LOL you invested in space clothes.
Celeste Taylor Ruby Dynasty 32	Posted - 2012.06.27 03:52:00 - [26] - Quote As mentioned on the similar threads, I don't think people should buy something that is obviously not worth (in their eyes) the ISK value of an object. I think the new NEX items are a great deal, and are being sold for less ISK right now than they are worth to me. The old NEX items (not counting the monocle) were/are being sold for easily what I think they are worth in ISK. The Quafe shirts and R/G Executor were a bit harder purchase decisions and I only bought them after getting most of the other NEX items. I don't regret paying 400m for the Executor since it is roughly what I was willing to pay for the item which is still cheaper than if I trade ISK->PLEX->AUR to buy a Navy Sterling at retail NEX prices. I personally think it is nice that others can afford what was previously available to only a few of us in the past, I wouldn't mind if the rest of my NEX collection were to be rereleased with prices that are more reasonable. I suppose people shouldn't invest in something that they consider is overpriced or not worth the current ISK value in their personal opinion. Look at an item and consider if you really think it is worth the price, or if you are only buying it because there are not that many in existence, or because CCP and other players (through AUR and inflated ISK prices) say it is valuable. Don't buy something just because others say it is expensive and rare. This reminds me of all the Sims (or Civ) expansions I spent so much money on back in the day, which I think was eventually included in a complete edition.
stoicfaux 1166	Posted - 2012.06.27 06:44:00 - [27] - Quote assel wrote: a sure investment "All investments involve different degrees of risk. You should be aware of your risk tolerance level and financial situations at all times. Furthermore, you should read all transaction confirmations, monthly, and year-end statements. Read any and all prospectuses carefully before making any investment decisions. You are free at all times to accept or reject all investment recommendations made by the Foo, Inc. All products sold by Foo, Inc. are subject to market risk and may result in the entire loss to the client's investment. (For example: market conditions may result in the depletion of your equity.) Please understand that any losses are attributed to market forces beyond the control or prediction of Foo, Inc. As you know, a recommendation, which you are free to accept or reject, is not a guarantee for the successful performance of an investment and we are expressly prohibited from guaranteeing against losses arising from market conditions." You can tell me what is and isn't Truth when you pry the tinfoil from my cold, lifeless head.
Tobias Durandal Wings of Redemption Black Flag Alliance 2	Posted - 2012.06.27 06:51:00 - [28] - Quote See, what you really shoulda done here, is been like, "Yeah? Well, I had those shirts before they were cool." That'd show everyone how awesome you were.
Reloadin 0	Posted - 2012.06.27 07:04:00 - [29] - Quote Funny thing is their dev blog said they had over 200 items to choose from, and someone decided to release this clothing which had an existing market price over any of the other apparel. It was obviously done on purpose. Lesson to be learnt? Don't ever buy another collectors edition or plex bundle again. If I had a monocle , any other original clothing or quafe shirts I'd be selling those pronto as they've already basically said they will be releasing them in the future at the same thrifty price point. Noble exchange? More like 2 dolla shop.
Eugene Kerner TunDraGon 61	Posted - 2012.06.27 09:41:00 - [30] - Quote assel wrote: Dear CCP, thank you for implementing a previously rare and valuable item into the NeX store and throwing it away for 500 Aurum. The Womens Executor Coat Red/Gold was initially a bonus to the Russian Collector's Edition. As far as I remember unique ships and items from collectors editions and special boxed releases of the game were always exclusive and therefore a sure investment in Eve Online. Considering this fact I have been stockpiling 8 of these coats as a slow growing investment for the future. Until Sunday each of these coats was worth ober 350 million ISK. Now you implement them for for 500 Aurum and thus dropping the price to 50 million each. CCP, you just screwed every collector and investor of limited issue items. You cost me 2.4 billion ISK, just by not checking which items were already available in Eve and how their market value was pre-patch. That must have been the greatest slap in the face I have ever received in Eve Online. I do await a statement from CCP regarding this matter! isn-¦t it more like NOTHING IN THIS GAME IS OWNED BY YOU! You spend money just to be able to use it. Nothing less nothing more.



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