I just checked the market a little more.

Apperently the Ishukone Special edition shirt is also sold for 500 Aurum.

That one went for 2 billion ISK apiece til Sunday!

I own one of these. Now they are sold for 38 million ISK.

So you cost me over 4.3 billion ISK in investments in a single patch.

Are you serious CCP?

Why do you troll us that much?

I just checked the market a little more.

Apperently the Ishukone Special edition shirt is also sold for 500 Aurum.

That one went for 2 billion ISK apiece til Sunday!

I own one of these. Now they are sold for 38 million ISK.

So you cost me over 4.3 billion ISK in investments in a single patch.

Are you serious CCP?

Why do you troll us that much?

That must have been the greatest slap in the face I have ever received in Eve Online.

As far as I remember unique ships and items from collectors editions and special boxed releases of the game were always exclusive and therefore a sure investment in Eve Online.

Im not whining, I am complaining.

I do understand lots of people, espacially from nullsec alliances, have little love for the NeX store, clothing or anything else in that regard.

But my point is not about that. Its about collectible items in Eve. How would PL feel if their tournament ships were sold for 500 Aurums in the NeX store or the Quafe Mark IV or any other item in Eve that got its high value from the rarity it has, because it was released in limited time offers or very special (often expasive) deals?

There are some people in this game that just suffer from CCP not checking closely what they are doing.

Might be 0.0 alliances loose well over 4 billion a day in fights, but for once they now what they are up to when they pick a fight, for me as a single player over 4 billion loss, just because someone at CCP didnt check or care is a massive blow.

Just realize, that 10 months of gametime.

Im not whining, I am complaining.

I'm pretty sure these were on SiSi at the current price...you could have foreseen this.

Might be 0.0 alliances loose well over 4 billion a day in fights, but for once they now what they are up to when they pick a fight, for me as a single player over 4 billion loss, just because someone at CCP didnt check or care is a massive blow.

not alliances, individuals.

and you should have known what you were getting into as soon as you started playing EVE.

As everyone knows that EVE runs on tears--and the tears of the elite offer better mileage than the tears of the masses.

Yeah might be every once in a while people lose (happy now?) tremendous sums of ISK, and not seldom because of stupid behaviour (like shipping 20 plex in a shuttle), but thats quite a different matter.

Its about rare and collectible items in Eve.

I dont have a russian collectors edition handy, but I bet somewhere on the box they advertise the Executor Coat Red/Gold as a special collectors edition item, maybe even saying "only available with this box". Someone who got that please check for me whats exactly on the box.

Same goes for the 13x Plex Ishukone Special Edition.

It even says special edition in its name. Now they sell it for 500 Aurum. Thats really very "special".

I'm pretty sure these were on SiSi at the current price...you could have foreseen this.

a sure investment

Dear CCP,

thank you for implementing a previously rare and valuable item into the NeX store and throwing it away for 500 Aurum.

The Womens Executor Coat Red/Gold was initially a bonus to the Russian Collector's Edition.
As far as I remember unique ships and items from collectors editions and special boxed releases of the game were always exclusive and therefore a sure investment in Eve Online.

Considering this fact I have been stockpiling 8 of these coats as a slow growing investment for the future. Until Sunday each of these coats was worth ober 350 million ISK.

Now you implement them for for 500 Aurum and thus dropping the price to 50 million each.

CCP, you just screwed every collector and investor of limited issue items.

You cost me 2.4 billion ISK, just by not checking which items were already available in Eve and how their market value was pre-patch.

That must have been the greatest slap in the face I have ever received in Eve Online.

I do await a statement from CCP regarding this matter!

For me (15 years in MMOs + real clothing shops / retail experience) it is clear CCP doesn't have any experience and clues about avatars, NeX, retail, micro-transactions, etc. I expect more screw ups during their experiments - like 500AUR cheap left/gold monocles for example.

Of course they don't. This is a ******* SPACESHIP GAME! They introduced avatars along with RMT items like this was the game focus and expected everyone to receive it with open arms. How ****** up is that? They use EvE to beta test WoD and Dust RMT, deliver no signifcant content to older players and people still wonder where did it go wrong. Now they are trying to fix all the mess but the damage is already done. Expect even more flop when npcs ship wrecks start dropping pants.
I'm not against avatars but they are doing this **** all wrong. They launched CQ as space doll houses. Clothing have no significance to game lore or mechanics at all. Pure slot machine sloppy design.

LOL you invested in space clothes.

LOL you invested in space clothes.

Welcome to the cut-throat word of internet spaceship game apparel.

In actual fact you are wrong. EVE has never, and will never be just a spaceships game. CCP have stated time and time again, going all the way back to before EVE was even released, that the idea was to create a fully immersive science fiction universe. This would include flying around in spaceships, walking in stations and some form of planetary game play.

As you can see we already have EVE, we are soon to see the arrival of DUST514 and with luck CCP will start to hire new people to work on the Incarna project once again. Yes they made a mess of Incarna, we know and they know it, but let's not use that as an excuse to halt the expansion of our gaming universe.

You learn lessons and then you move forward, if you don't you risk stagnation, and that would be a more certain death than merely trying and getting it wrong.

Lesson to be learnt? Don't ever buy another collectors edition or plex bundle again.

And if you know anything about economics then there is one thing you can be sure of: If a product is failing at its current price point then it might succeed at a new, lower price point. Obviously, CCP has "devalued" your investment in the hopes to "revaluing" theirs. If the NeX would have been a success at macro-transaction values then you could be sure your investment would have been protected. Unfortunately, as predicted by many players, including myself and as evidenced by this new pricing, the NeX was a failure. CCP has now adjusted their NeX strategy to be more accessible and thus cheaper items.

That seems like a rather nonsensical lesson. Why shouldn't you buy a bundle just because they throw in free stuff?

LOL you invested in space clothes.

Try playing EvE without spaceships and what do you got? Market? You can't haul anything. All you have without spaceships is that brand new space dollhouse of yours that offers as much immersion lore-wise as watching a fashion showcase.
Afaik EvE has been a spaceship based game for 9 years now.

Like I said before I'm not against avatars or universe expansion. But they are taking too long to acknowledge the mistake of making it a full RMT feature and 'move foward' on this.

Where, anywhere on the EVE forums, has anyone suggested getting rid of the spaceships? And clothing is not all that Incarna is about, something you appear to be mistaken about.