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Halcyon Ingenium Caldari Interstellar Commodity Exchange	Posted - 2010.02.06 08:41:00 - [31] Originally by: Iaoth Originally by: Catherine Frasier Originally by: Iaoth Why, then, are they allied? The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Think of the alliance between America and Russian during WWII. I gave that serious consideration, and it might work if both parties weren't so fervent in their beliefs. It doesn't hold up to logic given each entity's staunch stance. You also have to take in the fact that there are very real concerns for both empires to address, like survival, and then there is the doctrine that gets fed to the herd like masses. With this in mind the staunch stance that both take, while also working together, makes more sense. __________ Might Makes Right! -Ragnar Redbeard Originally by: Elena Laskova EvE treats rookies as a consumable resource, like ammunition or construction materials.
Nooma K'Larr Minmatar Cat's Cradle	Posted - 2010.02.06 08:54:00 - [32] The answer is simpler than you think. Caldari and Amarr are simply gay for each other. ___________________________________________________ CSM - Bring back Medium Shader!
Anubis Xian Reavers	Posted - 2010.02.06 10:10:00 - [33] Originally by: damgood85 Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails i dont know why they cant all just get on and make love instead of war lol x because we have a teen rating to think about. Are there any teens left to protect? Originally by: CCP Oveur The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
Alexeph Stoekai Stoekai Corp	Posted - 2010.02.06 11:33:00 - [34] The core of the Caldari and Amarr cultures are not quite as mutually exclusive as they may seem. The Inclusion of the Achura in the State shows that the Caldari have no issue with people being religious, as long as it doesn't interfere with productivity (and in the Achura's case, it might actually be beneficial). Likewise, they wouldn't have any issue with members of the state picking up the Amarr faith (as I'm sure many have). Similarly, the Amarr have no issues with corporations. There are many large economic bodies in the Empire, some that may be approaching megacorporate levels (the Zoar-Ducia conglomerate, the holdings of the Tash-Murkon and Khanid Houses...), and there is little in the Amarr culture that actively seeks to hamper the development of such groups. In the Amarr, the Caldari see a bear - quite simple-minded and backwards, but a force to be reckoned with and a fine ally to have in war. In the Caldari, the Amarr see a powerful economic and industrial nation that just might be interested in hearing about God Our Saviour... -----
Amerilia	Posted - 2010.02.06 12:26:00 - [35] Originally by: Anubis Xian Originally by: damgood85 Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails i dont know why they cant all just get on and make love instead of war lol x because we have a teen rating to think about. Are there any teens left to protect? I love the irony on the whole system actually. Blowing people to pieces and making everything explode is just fine for a teen rating. But love isnt.
Dan Grobag Caldari Grobag's Family	Posted - 2010.02.06 12:31:00 - [36] Edited by: Dan Grobag on 06/02/2010 12:33:14 Edited by: Dan Grobag on 06/02/2010 12:32:31 Amarr and Minmatarr are the authority vs the savages, they fight for the extremities. Caldari and Gallente too but they are moderate and fight for the center. All choose their allies according to their own bias, this is a war of form rather than substance.
Spectre80 Caldari The Knights Templar R.A.G.E	Posted - 2010.02.06 12:41:00 - [37] Originally by: Anubis Xian Originally by: damgood85 Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails i dont know why they cant all just get on and make love instead of war lol x because we have a teen rating to think about. Are there any teens left to protect? bring the teens to me. preferrably female ones thx.
Dodgy Past Amarr Debitum Naturae	Posted - 2010.02.06 13:13:00 - [38] Can't see the Caldari approving of free love though. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- you seem determined to turn it into ******* Hollyoaks for neckbeards.
Halcyon Ingenium Caldari Interstellar Commodity Exchange	Posted - 2010.02.06 14:06:00 - [39] Originally by: Dodgy Past Can't see the Caldari approving of free love though. Lol! Certainly a moderate fee would be acceptable... __________ Might Makes Right! -Ragnar Redbeard Originally by: Elena Laskova EvE treats rookies as a consumable resource, like ammunition or construction materials.
Duchess Starbuckington	Posted - 2010.02.06 14:31:00 - [40] Edited by: Duchess Starbuckington on 06/02/2010 14:32:31 Originally by: Dodgy Past Can't see the Caldari approving of free love though. Sig'd But seriously, the profit thing has some truth to it. In fact I think one Caldari mission makes reference to "legal" slave traders (as opposed to illegal ones we're supposed to be destroying) so it seems they're happy to turn a blind eye to the shadier Amarr practices. _________________________________ Originally by: Dodgy Past Can't see the Caldari approving of free love though.
Irida Mershkov Gallente Honour Before Death Nominis Expers	Posted - 2010.02.06 14:42:00 - [41] Originally by: Reem Fairchild Why are Chavez and Ahmadinejad friends? They're not, nobody likes Chavez.
Laechyd Eldgorn Caldari Endemic Aggression Exalted.	Posted - 2010.02.06 14:52:00 - [42] amarr make absolutions, revelations and uhm.. legions (well that maybe too much)
Dantes Revenge Caldari	Posted - 2010.02.06 15:17:00 - [43] You could just as well ask why the British PM always has his nose 3/4 of the way up the American Presidents butt.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2010.02.07 20:46:00 - [44] Originally by: Iaoth The Caldari are corporate shills. They live and exist for one reason only, and that is the furtherance of the corporation through increased profits. The Amarr are religious zealots, Why, then, are they allied? Why do you hate America so much?
VanNostrum Tigers Of Anatolia	Posted - 2010.02.07 21:37:00 - [45] Amarr and Caldari do not have direct trade. Khanid Kingdom is Amarr Empire's connection to outside technologies and weaponry. Amarr are conservative when it comes to war technologies, but they have no problem trading anything with the Khanid who aggressively seek out new technologies to better their old Amarr systems.
Xing Fey	Posted - 2010.02.07 21:41:00 - [46] Originally by: Iaoth The Caldari are corporate shills. They live and exist for one reason only, and that is the furtherance of the corporation through increased profits. The Amarr are religious zealots, who shun materialism and who exist only for the furtherance of their "cleansing religion". Why, then, are they allied? It would seem at first glance that their two societal ideals are completely and utterly incompatble, and therefore intolerable to each other.............. I can understand the Gallente/Minmatar symbiosis............the Gallente are the tree hugging "anything goes" freedom liberals of the universe, and the poor Minnies are just trying to get out from under the whip.......... but the Caldari/Amarr thing just has me stymied. This is the "Theme Park Version" of the eve backstory...
Reem Fairchild Minmatar Military Research and Manufacturing Corp.	Posted - 2010.02.07 21:48:00 - [47] Edited by: Reem Fairchild on 07/02/2010 21:48:18 Originally by: Irida Mershkov Originally by: Reem Fairchild Why are Chavez and Ahmadinejad friends? They're not, nobody likes Chavez. Nope, they are. And so is Chavez and Hezeballah in Lebanon. I'm originally from Lebanon, and I keep track of politics in the region. The Iran-Syria-Hezeballah axis and Chavez are very close and have been for many years now. ----- 'In Eve, as in real life, if you are bored it's your own fault.'
Face Lifter	Posted - 2010.02.07 21:58:00 - [48] Originally by: Iaoth Why, then, are they allied? You can ask the same thing about Republican party in USA, exact same situation
Androgine	Posted - 2010.02.08 10:32:00 - [49] Originally by: Disclose But their ships are made out of GOLD! Ah, but if you take the 'ell out of the word "gold", you get GOD. This is the "quod erat demonstrandum", the proof positive, the way Amarr rolls, and how the ****'s gonna be!
XIII'th	Posted - 2010.02.08 11:56:00 - [50] Edited by: XIII''th on 08/02/2010 11:56:18 Originally by: Catherine Frasier Think of the alliance between America and Russia during WWII. America is continent (two continents even), during WWII there was no such country like Russia.
Gloria Stitz	Posted - 2010.02.08 12:23:00 - [51] Think usa + saudi arabia or usa + israel Extreme capitalism + extreme superstition in each case ------------- 'Don't try to learn Eve all at once, otherwise your brain will explode' - Albert Einstein ------------
Zofe Stormcaller Gallente Shadow Company Legiunea ROmana	Posted - 2010.02.08 13:42:00 - [52] Originally by: Dantes Revenge You could just as well ask why the British PM always has his nose 3/4 of the way up the American Presidents butt. That was just Blair. Many people in the UK want to see that guy in the dock at the Hague. The current PM is just a waster that noone cares about, least of all the US Prez, and instead of using MI5 like normal PMs he is maintaining his personal security by endeavouring to not be worth a bullet. He has a high probability of being given the boot soon. Long story short, Caldari + Amarr = "War is good for business"
o'o'O'o'o'o	Posted - 2010.02.08 18:51:00 - [53] Hmm... Amarr and Caldari (English) Amarr y Caldari (Spanish) Amar. y Cal. (Abbreviations) Amar. i Cal. Amar.i.Cal AmariCal AmeriCal America Somebody help me, I know too much.
Catherine Frasier	Posted - 2010.02.08 20:19:00 - [54] Originally by: XIII'th Edited by: XIII''th on 08/02/2010 11:56:18 Originally by: Catherine Frasier Think of the alliance between America and Russia during WWII. America is continent (two continents even), during WWII there was no such country like Russia. Oh ffs. America is not a continent, nor even two. North America, one of the Americas, is a continent. "America" is, however, a generally recognized short form for "The United States of America". During WWII Russia, more pedantically the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic, did not somehow cease to exist despite the fact that it was a member of the larger Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. It was still a "country such like" Russia. If it makes you feel better somehow to have it expressed as the alliance between the United States of America and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics as part of the greater alliance between Australia, Belgium, Brazil, Canada, China, Czechoslovakia, Ethiopia, Greece, India, Mexico, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, the Philippine Commonwealth, Poland, the Union of South Africa, the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, the United Kingdom, The United States of America and Yugoslavia, traditionally known as "the Allies of World War II", then please feel free to read it that way. Perhaps you should become acquainted with the thoughts of William Shakespeare on the nomenclature of the members of the genus Rosa.
Herman Menderchuk Rod Torfulson's Armada featuring Herman Menderchuk	Posted - 2010.02.08 21:28:00 - [55] I think we've failed to touch on a point here. The crew on our ships aren't in pods. When we blow up, these poor soul's bits are spewn into space. While highly improbable, there is a chance that floating genitalia could end up entering each other. Just think about huge fleet battles with numerous capitals destroyed. It's like a giant orgy with body parts just going in and out of everyone elses, a site that could only be described as grisly yet erotic. Please people, think of the children.
Joe Skellington Minmatar JOKAS Industries	Posted - 2010.02.08 23:25:00 - [56] Originally by: Iaoth The Amarr are religious zealots, who shun materialism and who exist only for the furtherance of their "cleansing religion". I don't remember the back story saying they shunned materialism. Though compared to real life, religion as an institution is big business.
Toriessian Amarr Void Engineers	Posted - 2010.02.08 23:51:00 - [57] This -> http://www.eveonline.com/news.asp?a=single&nid=2658&tid=2 Basically the Empress invested trillions into the Caldari state and corporations. Thats why the Amarr and Caldari like each other. Money.
MrBinary Minmatar Binary Systems	Posted - 2010.02.09 00:22:00 - [58] Originally by: Iaoth The Caldari are corporate shills... The Amarr are religious zealots... Perfect pairing. "[ 2004.05.20 20:11:42 ] Hodal Xibur > Die MrBinary"

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