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Ick Ickagami	Posted - 2010.02.09 16:11:00 - [1]
Samantha U	Posted - 2010.02.09 16:20:00 - [2] In case you run out of toilet paper?
Ryhss Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2010.02.09 16:22:00 - [3] Because Amarr folks are slaver douchebags? This is my sig, stop reading.
Ick Ickagami	Posted - 2010.02.09 16:22:00 - [4] I thought pod mechanics took care of that type of thing. Anyway, some Amarr dude told me I had to have this in me cargo hold at all times, but he buggered off before I could find out WHY. I hate not knowing stuff..........
Ringo Jeicha Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2010.02.09 16:45:00 - [5] For how much did he sell you one? --- Braaaiiinnnsssssssssss
Ick Ickagami	Posted - 2010.02.09 16:51:00 - [6] Originally by: Ringo Jeicha For how much did he sell you one? He didn't. I bought from NPC market. He just said I must have one at all times as Amarr.
Abrazzar	Posted - 2010.02.09 16:54:00 - [7] Originally by: Ick Ickagami Originally by: Ringo Jeicha For how much did he sell you one? He didn't. I bought from NPC market. He just said I must have one at all times as Amarr. It's basically the amarrian Bible. --------
Mistress Servelan	Posted - 2010.02.09 16:59:00 - [8] fuctifino
Ick Ickagami	Posted - 2010.02.09 17:08:00 - [9] I mean, it would make some sense if I could READ the damned thing, or use it as ammo, or even as a mine/bomb, but seriously, WTF? Why I gotta tote this thing about the place? What do the Minmitar cart about? Or the Gallente? Or the Caldari? I understand the Jove carry about the spines and skulls of their victims...............
Virgil Travis Gallente	Posted - 2010.02.09 17:17:00 - [10] Gallente cart drones about, Minmatar carry duct tape, Caldari have the Rules of Acquisition
Chainsaw Plankton IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE	Posted - 2010.02.09 17:38:00 - [11] I dunno why listen to what some random dude says?
000Hunter000 Gallente Missiles 'R' Us	Posted - 2010.02.09 17:42:00 - [12] I carry a boomstick... ________________________________________________
Shirley Serious Amarr The Khanid Sisters of Athra	Posted - 2010.02.09 17:45:00 - [13] Because it makes people go when they look at lossmails. Same as things like dolls, or any of the other odder items. Though, rumour has it that if you have mines in your cargohold, it breaks some killboards. Yes. Yes, I am.
Magnus Nordir Caldari Nordir Industries	Posted - 2010.02.09 17:46:00 - [14] Because lol rp. --------------------------- Only those who surrender are lost
Barakkus Caelestis Iudicium	Posted - 2010.02.09 19:24:00 - [15] Originally by: Ick Ickagami I mean, it would make some sense if I could READ the damned thing, or use it as ammo, or even as a mine/bomb, but seriously, WTF? Why I gotta tote this thing about the place? What do the Minmitar cart about? Or the Gallente? Or the Caldari? I understand the Jove carry about the spines and skulls of their victims............... We carry duct tape. Originally by: CCP Dropbear rofl edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
Simeon Tor	Posted - 2010.02.09 20:06:00 - [16] I've kept one in the cargohold of my interceptor since I bought it, my first interceptor actually. And I still have that very interceptor!
Triple Entendre Emergence Inc.	Posted - 2010.02.09 20:14:00 - [17] Your lack of exotic dancers disturbs me.
Bl4ckMech	Posted - 2010.02.09 20:16:00 - [18] Because everyone else carries strippers in there hold but because you are amarr you carry a book around
Catherine Frasier	Posted - 2010.02.09 21:00:00 - [19] Originally by: Ick Ickagami Anyway, some Amarr dude told me I had to have this in me cargo hold at all times, but he buggered off before I could find out WHY. You also have to send me 30% of any isk you earn and I'll tell you why. Oh, hang on a sec, someone at the door, you go ahead and start sending the isk...
Culmen Caldari Macabre Votum Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2010.02.09 21:37:00 - [20] Originally by: Virgil Travis Gallente cart drones about, Minmatar carry duct tape, Caldari have the Rules of Acquisition CCP I demand that you implement a "Rule of Acquisition" item in the game. and further more why do i even need a sig?
Nadarius Chrome Celestial Horizon Corp.	Posted - 2010.02.09 21:38:00 - [21] I'm Minmatar and I carry a Khumaak on my Archon. I used it to brain the previous Amarr owner when I took the ship as my own.
MrBinary Minmatar Binary Systems	Posted - 2010.02.10 00:27:00 - [22] Originally by: Nadarius Chrome Khumaak This. It's a reminder to all our brothers and sisters still wearing the amarr chains of slavery. They will be free. "[ 2004.05.20 20:11:42 ] Hodal Xibur > Die MrBinary"
Slade Trillgon Endless Possibilities Inc. Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.10 00:47:00 - [23] Remember; in EVE you do not have to do anything you are told. You just need to be able to determine which things you are better off doing and those that are hog wash Slade Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Please go sit in the corner, and dont forget to don the shame-on-you-hat! ≡v≡
Guillame Herschel Gallente NME1	Posted - 2010.02.10 00:53:00 - [24] Originally by: Ick Ickagami What do the Minmitar cart about? Or the Gallente? This Gallentean carts about a 6-pack of Quafe Ultra in his cargo bay. *-- He said "The President is near."*
Exploding Tukey	Posted - 2010.02.10 02:28:00 - [25] I am still undecided if this thread is full of Win or Fail, but it is amusing.
Disclose Profit Union	Posted - 2010.02.10 02:55:00 - [26] All Amarr Rookie ships should have the Gideon's Pax Amarria.
Graelyn Amarr Deus Imperiosus Acies	Posted - 2010.02.10 03:44:00 - [27] I keep one in all my ships. It's just good policy. -------
Rodneh	Posted - 2010.02.10 03:54:00 - [28] Originally by: Ick Ickagami I mean, it would make some sense if I could READ the damned thing, or use it as ammo, or even as a mine/bomb, but seriously, WTF? Why I gotta tote this thing about the place? What do the Minmitar cart about? Or the Gallente? Or the Caldari? I understand the Jove carry about the spines and skulls of their victims............... Maybe you're just a complete **ing **. Who knows.
RabbidFerret The Scope	Posted - 2010.02.10 04:09:00 - [29] Originally by: Ick Ickagami Because you have an overwhelming desire to send me all of your isk with the comment "I love you".
Terianna Eri Amarr Senex Legio Get Off My Lawn	Posted - 2010.02.10 06:12:00 - [30] Originally by: Shirley Serious Because it makes people go when they look at lossmails. Same as things like dolls, or any of the other odder items. Though, rumour has it that if you have mines in your cargohold, it breaks some killboards. I carry an exotic dancer in all of my combat ships ________________ Originally by: CCP Incognito PS the "time to P*nis" is the shortest time recorded in human history. :)
Lakshmii Caldari Korona Radiata	Posted - 2010.02.10 07:17:00 - [31] I like to carry a Quafe Ultra Special Edtion with my most expensive craft. That stuff keeps me on my toes. ?
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2010.02.10 14:15:00 - [32] Originally by: Abrazzar Originally by: Ick Ickagami Originally by: Ringo Jeicha For how much did he sell you one? He didn't. I bought from NPC market. He just said I must have one at all times as Amarr. It's basically the amarrian Bible. Not quite. Pax Amarria is a secular work, written by Emperor Heideran VII, whereas the closest equivalent to the Bible is the Scriptures. But all loyal Amarrians should have a copy of the Pax anyway Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Ick Ickagami	Posted - 2010.02.10 14:24:00 - [33] Originally by: Rodj Blake .............all loyal Amarrians should have a copy of the Pax anyway This is what the dude said, but he buggered off before i could ask why, so I will now as YOU. Why? Point me to the proper links and passages, please, so that I might understand.
Slade Trillgon Endless Possibilities Inc. Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.10 14:36:00 - [34] Originally by: Ick Ickagami Originally by: Rodj Blake .............all loyal Amarrians should have a copy of the Pax anyway This is what the dude said, but he buggered off before i could ask why, so I will now as YOU. Why? Point me to the proper links and passages, please, so that I might understand. Why not use some common sense and learn what role playing is. It is a religious text that many of the theistic Amarrians hold dearly. So I ask you, with that knowledge, why do you think someone would tell you told keep on in your hold? Slade Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Please go sit in the corner, and dont forget to don the shame-on-you-hat! ≡v≡
Ick Ickagami	Posted - 2010.02.10 14:39:00 - [35] Originally by: Slade Trillgon Point me to the proper links and passages, please, so that I might understand. Why not use some common sense and learn what role playing is. You must be hard of reading, as your reply clearly contains no useful requested information. Then again, you ar matari, so your ignorance ind illiteracy may be excused.
Slade Trillgon Endless Possibilities Inc. Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.10 14:48:00 - [36] Originally by: Ick Ickagami You must be hard of reading, as your reply clearly contains no useful requested information. Then again, you ar matari, so your ignorance ind illiteracy may be excused. Did you not ask why you were told all Amarrians should have the Pax Amaria in their cargohold of the ship they are flying? Or are you nit picking because no one is giving you a link to a source for something that is apparently clear to anyone that has any knowledge of any religion? Slade Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Please go sit in the corner, and dont forget to don the shame-on-you-hat! ≡v≡
Nadarius Chrome Celestial Horizon Corp.	Posted - 2010.02.10 19:51:00 - [37] I think he's asking, in-character, to have the significance of the book explained, which IMO is only practical when you have access to the content of said book. He's trolling for RP'er tears and/or rage.
Ick Ickagami	Posted - 2010.02.10 19:53:00 - [38] Some days, it is just too damned easy.
Nadarius Chrome Celestial Horizon Corp.	Posted - 2010.02.10 20:42:00 - [39] Originally by: Ick Ickagami Some days, it is just too damned easy. That depends what you were trying to do. The lore of this game (or any other MMO for that matter) is something that interests a lot of people, and the escape people get from immersing themselves in it is a big drawcard to some. The only thing you've achieved is showing people that you're not interested in roleplaying. And dancing around asking "Why?" to every answer is what a 5 year old kid does. It doesn't make you some master troller.
Arderich Bruderschaft des Wahrhaftigen A.R.K.	Posted - 2010.02.10 22:29:00 - [40] Originally by: Rodj Blake Not quite. Pax Amarria is a secular work, written by Emperor Heideran VII, whereas the closest equivalent to the Bible is the Scriptures. But all loyal Amarrians should have a copy of the Pax anyway Pax Amarria - the dream of eternal peace, written by a whimpering fool - is in many ways the opposite of what the scriptures say. This heretical book must burn.
Sahriah BloodStone Caldari No.Mercy Gentlemen's Club	Posted - 2010.02.11 06:13:00 - [41] Edited by: Sahriah BloodStone on 11/02/2010 06:13:40 Originally by: Ick Ickagami Originally by: Rodj Blake .............all loyal Amarrians should have a copy of the Pax anyway This is what the dude said, but he buggered off before i could ask why, so I will now as YOU. Why? Point me to the proper links and passages, please, so that I might understand. The book is, if one is properly versed in the amarrian history, heretical. Alot of laws and things were changed to suit new emperors needs and did not remain loyal to original scriptures and whatnot. Even now, the new Empress broke the most sarced traditional laws of succesion, yet everyones fine and dandy. Im going to go with the first reply - incase you run out of toilet paper :) EDIT: quoted wrong person lol ---------------------- Sahriah Bloodstone No.Mercy
rubico1337 Caldari Mnemonic Enterprises	Posted - 2010.02.11 09:04:00 - [42] Originally by: Ick Ickagami Originally by: Slade Trillgon Point me to the proper links and passages, please, so that I might understand. Why not use some common sense and learn what role playing is. You must be hard of reading, as your reply clearly contains no useful requested information. Then again, you ar matari, so your ignorance ind illiteracy may be excused. OH SNAP this is definitely the right game for you Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes.
Zhou Zhen Amarr Galactic Express Primary.	Posted - 2010.02.11 10:00:00 - [43] I carry mine to remind me of the loftier goals of the Amarr Empire, a desire to reach out to all races that the former Emperor espoused. Sadly I lost my copy recently in battle, could you get one for me and bring it to 1V-LI2. I'm sure if you bring it they'll give you a warm reception. Make sure to come through N-RAEL on your way.
Alexeph Stoekai Stoekai Corp	Posted - 2010.02.11 10:48:00 - [44] Edited by: Alexeph Stoekai on 11/02/2010 10:52:24 Originally by: Slade Trillgon It is a religious text that many of the theistic Amarrians hold dearly. It's not a religious text. It's a political essay written by a former Emperor explaining his views on how the Empire should handle itself in galactic politics, and while it's certainly marked by the ambient theosophic over- and undertones common to almost everything produced in the Empire, it's not a religious text. If the Theology Council would move to declare it canon (highly unlikely, considering the Empire being in Warmode) it would be Scripture and thus become part of the body of religious texts, though it could still be argued that it would remain a largely secular work. EDIT: In the Empire today, carrying a Pax Amarria would basically signify a hope for peace and return to the more calm and steady political solutions of Heideran. By some parts (such as the highly militant Sarum House) waving around a Pax is probably a slight insult - to them indicating that you're not supporting Amarr in the Reclaiming. The Pax will probably not be decried as a heretical text, as it was penned by an Emperor, but it's unlikely to be given much value until the war can be ended. -----
Mithfindel Aseyakone	Posted - 2010.02.11 11:23:00 - [45] Edited by: Mithfindel on 11/02/2010 11:23:32 Like several people noted, it is a political (possibly political science) monograph written or at least attributed to Emperor Heideran VII during the end part of the Emperor's reign. I wrote "attributed to", because I think it might be likely that the actual editing etc. was done by a whole lot of Emperor Family staff under the direction of the Emperor, who then read the result (or had it read to him) and said it was ok. In a way, it is the legacy of Emperor Heideran, and as such carrying it could have multiple messages. Heideran was the last Emperor that was elected traditionally - Doriam II had capsuleer champions for his trials. Jamyl just became Empress by the Heirs agreeing on the thing to happen. (Of course here "traditionally" means according to the post-Moral Reforms tradition - arguably Doriam II would still be elected traditionally, and was a successor of Heideran's work.) So carrying one could indeed be flipping Jamyl in several ways, not only the pacifist nature of the book. The main message, I believe, was that the Empire had near-equals now, and as such couldn't just go on enlightening people with lasers & glassing planets. A policy change would be required to make the Empire a natural leader in interstellar politics, with the ultimate goal being instead of conquering the entire cluster merely extending Amarr hegemony over the entire cluster. (This is strongly hinted by the name - for example, Pax Romana didn't mean that the Romans would have begged other people to leave them alone, they just had conquered everyone who could threaten them.) This would be, of course, shrouded in religious language etc., or at least likely not stated directly. Of course, we don't actually know the contents of the text. Also depending on how it is read, traditionalists ("you should bow down to us, and we will let you live in peace") and liberals ("hey can't we just all get along") would likely emphasize different parts. On Heideran and peace efforts: It is quite of funny for Heideran to be stated to be the "first Emperor to get the Aidonis" when Heideran was already an Emperor for a few hundred years before future President Aidonis Elabon (of the GalFed) was born (and the Aidonis Foundation handing out the prize was formed post-YC, so about 110 years ago). On Amarr Scripture and secular works: If we accept the statements of former Tetrimon Grand Master Elata Ardo (even the heretic he is), the Amarr Scripture doesn't only collect religious history, prophesies, epistles and so on, but also all "church-accepted good works", such as a large portion of the Empire's scientific results etc. As such, the Pax would likely be considered "good literature" now, and if the Theology Council does the paperwork, it becomes Scripture. (Of course, there's so much of the Scripture and likely double the amount of commentaries on Scripture that any single piece might just accidentally be "forgotten" or just "interpreted in a creative way" to suit the current regime.)
Ick Ickagami	Posted - 2010.02.11 13:07:00 - [46] Originally by: Mithfindel .......much helpful and lucid informations............ FINALLY. An decent, in depth respectable answer. And it had to come from a damned Gallente tree hugger. Oh, a sad day indeed.
K'uata Sayus	Posted - 2010.02.11 18:49:00 - [47] I take two slaver hounds with me wherever I go for companionship. Like any canine, they're eager to please and enjoy a scratch behind the ears and a biscuit now and then. Like many players, I am eagerly anticipating Walking Dogs in Stations..... EVERYONE SEEMS NORMAL UNTIL YOU GET TO KNOW THEM.
Slade Trillgon Endless Possibilities Inc. Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.02.11 19:41:00 - [48] Originally by: Alexeph Stoekai Edited by: Alexeph Stoekai on 11/02/2010 10:52:24 Originally by: Slade Trillgon It is a religious text that many of the theistic Amarrians hold dearly. It's not a religious text. It's a political essay written by a former Emperor explaining his views on how the Empire should handle itself in galactic politics, and while it's certainly marked by the ambient theosophic over- and undertones common to almost everything produced in the Empire, it's not a religious text. If the Theology Council would move to declare it canon (highly unlikely, considering the Empire being in Warmode) it would be Scripture and thus become part of the body of religious texts, though it could still be argued that it would remain a largely secular work. EDIT: In the Empire today, carrying a Pax Amarria would basically signify a hope for peace and return to the more calm and steady political solutions of Heideran. By some parts (such as the highly militant Sarum House) waving around a Pax is probably a slight insult - to them indicating that you're not supporting Amarr in the Reclaiming. The Pax will probably not be decried as a heretical text, as it was penned by an Emperor, but it's unlikely to be given much value until the war can be ended. Touche. It is a political text, with heavy religious undertones, that many theistic Amarrians treat as a religious text while others consider it sacrilege? Slade Originally by: Niccolado Starwalker Please go sit in the corner, and dont forget to don the shame-on-you-hat! ≡v≡
Rosenoern	Posted - 2010.02.16 13:03:00 - [49] Even though i'm Gallente i carry around a lot of money just in case i need to bribe those damn Caldari customs... Seriously they'll let anything slip for cash...
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2010.02.16 14:30:00 - [50] Some further reading: News report Chronicle Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Ranger 1 Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Vertigo Coalition	Posted - 2010.02.16 18:07:00 - [51] You can peek inside if you like, but it won't do you any good. I hear it's in braille. ===== If you go to Za'Ha'Dum I will gank you.
Jarik Utoni Minmatar	Posted - 2010.02.16 18:15:00 - [52] Originally by: Ranger 1 You can peek inside if you like, but it won't do you any good. I hear it's in braille. What you did there, I see it __________________ -Jarik Utoni, --Cov Ops Pilot ---T2 Frigate Specialist d(^.^)b

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