This is still en-route and I'm currently trying to unclog the pipes that are holding the dev blog up. It's been delayed for so long now I'm going to update the pictures on it to something that's more representative of the current state of things!

You're correct though the gameplay we've been prototyping is based around cooperative gameplay in a hazardous environment. You'd be cooperating both in space and in the structure you were all walking around in though and there would still be the potential for conflict with other people in the structures you are exploring.

We're pretty excited about what we've come up with internally.

Just to be totally clear this has so far been prototype work and we need management support to move further on into the production of it. That lots of players and developers are actually quite excited about it is obviously a big plus point in that regard.

Indeed. Although it would be amusing to put out a bi-monocle ( spectacle ) at double the price of the old monocles just for the troll of it.

But seriously, yes, we felt that this kind of pricing made much more sense, and we see it in how the items are selling now, that once the price was brought down and we added interesting designs, people are buying them. We'd like to put out more distinctive stuff, like the full body rubber female suits seen on Singularity, and a full body female leather strap catsuit, both which are important work attire for any serious capsuleer. If the clothes we're putting out now at lower prices sell well, we are very likely to kick off the manufacturing pipeline again, where we were planning to do more exotic ( cyberpunk, pirate etc ) clothes, than the more plain business and military clothes we have now.

The question is - on what type of a machine? Because if it requires a relatively high-end PC to run it, that means most people won't be able to play it. I have a relatively high end machine, but my graphics card is ATI and as a result over a year later I am still getting artifacts and texture glitches and whatnot when using the avatar interface.

Now imagine that this new gameplay is actually profitable, highly so, comparable to say Incursions pre-nerf or current wormholes. Except, unlike those, people with crappy PCs simply won't be able to participate, without paying out a considerable sum on upgrading. And in this economy, not many people have this kind of free floating cash. Imagine the outcry and mass cancellations from that? Yeeah....

Plus, like the blue fellow said earlier in the thread, he doesn't see people running around in structures 12 months from now even IF (and that's a big if) they were green-lit tomorrow and could staff the team in optimal way.

At this point, my personal feeling about Incarna as a whole is "is it worth it any more?" Having an entire team spend 12+ months for a mechanic that not everyone will be able to use (hardware), not everyone will want to use (playstyle) and which could result in a negative feedback fallout (inability to use due to hardware limitations).

Wouldn't that team be better used on some other facet of the game?

You know, this brings up an interesting point. They could just toss whatever they have ready out on SiSi and keep it there, upgrading it as they are able, until the playerbase agrees that it's ready for deployment to TQ.

delete WIS, delete Incarna... we are spaceships.

WiS means Walking in Stations, it's what you do when you enter Captain's Quarters. It doesn't really have anything to do with being social or anti-social.

I wouldn't hold my breath for a dev blog. The CCP higher ups are no longer behind the idea so all a dev blog would do is build our hopes up only to be let down again.

What team Avatar wants and what EVE's senior designer wants are two different things.

And some of us are about ready to quit without giving anyone our stuff. Avatars are all well and good, but this F2P/P2W bullshit needs to stop.

When i say designer, i don't mean the art department. I mean the person responsible for the overall game experience and development direction.

The current direction is to polish the existing game, not to introduce exciting new content.

Sorry for the radio silence for the past couple of weeks, I've been variously ill, spraining ankles and on holiday.

I've got bad news about the devblog we promised. It's been swallowed by the black hole of corporateness and won't be seeing the light of day for the foreseeable future. The team have been as vocal as we can about the merits of putting it out but to no avail. We're continuing to try and work out a way of showing you work we're proud of and think you will like but for now our hands are completely tied.

I've wondered why the two games can't share art assets. I mean if they are already developing interiors for Dust matches, surely some of them could be imported into EVE (might need some additional polish to bring it up to EVE standards though).

lol running cq is not worth the extra bit of electricity, it's not much but i do try to do my part for the environment.
stop diverting to issue to "upgrade your pc".

Haven't they both been addressed? Free aurum and cheaper prices on the new items for A. And Graphical optimizations for B.

You mean besides the biggest complaint of "so... what exactly are we supposed to do in Captain's Magic Playhouse, anyway?"

Meaningful gameplay has to come with the next Incarna expansion or it'll be dead in the water.

still a fancy way of saying a bunch of dudes emoting each other, tell me about all the "interactions and emergent gameplay" that can arise out of it, then build me a cathedral with 6 lego pieces.

A social area that doesn't allow for meaningful interaction (besides talking to each other) isn't worth spending time on. We already have chat channels and voice Comms for social interaction.

Right Click > Open Chat with.

Boom, private chat.

Sure we do. There are general, public channels.
There are Constellation Channels.
There is Local.
There are Private Chats.

Local is the proximity chat for EVE.

Has it ever occurred to you that essentially what you are asking for is a room for a bunch of dudes to emote each other in and eve online is rated only rated pegi 12?

No.

There are other reasons why people don't want to use CQ. For instance, it still makes my computer's temperature ramp up pretty quick.

CCP announced Ambulation: Coming Soon about 7 years ago. They've gotten it wrong once (to the tune of 20k Subs). Getting it wrong again will almost certainly kill it. Getting it right is much more important than getting it right now.

By the way, CCP is terrible at gradual iteration. Until Crucible, it had effectively never happened.

i am also going to add something to this

Ok so Team Avatar is silenced and are not allowed to speak about or show of their work

Why a simple demo from a team that is working within CCP is put aside ,is beyond me
So i want to know the reason why Unifex silenced CCP Bayesian ,after all this time

Tell me, why do you think wis should be mandatory? Why should I load that crap when it adds zero gameplay, no, emoting is not gameplay.
Why shouldn't wis be optional like how you can turn off shaders and missile effects?

BTW i will load wis when i have a good reason to. like suicide bombing a bunch of emoters.

If wis was any good people would choose to load it, if it is just a bunch of dudes emoting each other, why the hell would i turn it on? The core problem of wis is nonexistant gameplay, that's why it is not loaded on many clients. Are you so afraid that nobody wants to load it that the only way to make it useful is to make it mandatory like some kind of pathetic pat on one's own back?

barbie-world

You want to walk around a 3D character in an EVE environment with the ability to see other players?

Try Dust514!

If there should be a possiblilty to walk inside a POS, I agree, a CQ would just be silly. But some kind of control room would be very nice

emote till you choke in imvu 2nd life

ccp: ohhhh noooo we lost subs from 50 dudes who are like all we want to do in eve is emote.

I will concede to the fact that most people look forward to some form of wis in the future, but I highly doubt the number of "imvu-pocalypse now or i am quitting now" freaks is high enough to be taken seriously.

So nobody resubbed for Inferno? And there are exactly zero potential players out there interested in what eve already is?

99 problems but pants aint one, if you have emoting problems i feel bad for you son

Are you trolling or they've finished the server updates since shutting down SiSi on Aug. 17th