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ZombieFX
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Posted - 2010.02.10 21:41:00 -
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I know, i dont live in an exotic timezone or something. (germany is just gmt+1 UTC+1)
And i wonder why dont u make the downtime on something like 5-7 oŚclock at the morning?
The time - when pretty sure not that much ppl will be online (and sleep).
I cant ger rid of the feeling, i cant start any big operation, couse i know the downtime is coming soon.
Like a countdown - that just keeps teasing you! "nanana - u have to go offline :p"
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Nooma K'Larr
Minmatar Cat's Cradle
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Posted - 2010.02.10 21:44:00 -
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I dont know.
Why is downtime at 5am were Im at? ___________________________________________________ CSM - Bring back Medium Shader! |
Naomi Wildfire
Amarr Stardust Heavy Industries Majesta Empire
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Posted - 2010.02.10 21:44:00 -
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Edited by: Naomi Wildfire on 10/02/2010 21:45:10 thats the middle of the day?
sry, they are worse timezones... other county, same whine (i'm german too btw)
#edit i know a solution :D
Lets make the downtime at 5 am in every county
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Lt Forge
Pilots From Honour Aeternus.
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Posted - 2010.02.10 21:44:00 -
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(Dutch here)
Ever considered that there are other countries and timezones on this planet, except your seventy year old vision called Germany?
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Sgt Mimo
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Posted - 2010.02.10 21:44:00 -
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Maybe becouse it's night else where in the world ;)
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Samantha U
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Posted - 2010.02.10 21:44:00 -
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CCP works on GMT, so the downtime is in the middle of their working day. This allows them to prepare beforehand and take care of any issues resulting from bugs that follow, all within normal working hours.
It does seem pretty selfish since the early hours of the morning for Europe would still disrupt other time zones. How would you like to have to get up for work at that time of the day just to run a set of database operations?
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Kyra Felann
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.02.10 21:46:00 -
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Edited by: Kyra Felann on 10/02/2010 21:47:35 The largest nationality percentage of EVE players are in the US (followed closely by the UK), and it's really early in the morning here, which is pretty convenient (I've only been awake for downtime like once or twice).
No matter when downtime is, someone somewhere in the world won't like it, so I guess the most they can do is try to minimize the countries inconvenienced by it or make it as convenient for them (CCP) as possible.
Isn't downtime usually shorter than an hour now anyway?
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2010.02.10 21:47:00 -
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It is going to be inconvenient for someone somewhere, so CCP might as well choose a time that is best for them.
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MrBinary
Minmatar Binary Systems
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Posted - 2010.02.10 21:50:00 -
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Originally by: Destination SkillQueue It is going to be inconvenient for someone somewhere, so CCP might as well choose a time that is best for them.
Winner!
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Taedrin
Gallente The Green Cross DEFI4NT
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Posted - 2010.02.10 21:52:00 -
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For two reasons:
a) Current downtime is convenient for CCP staff, as they don't have to wake up at odd hours in the morning to make sure downtime happens smoothly. Having downtime when more staff is available probably makes more sense for them b) Current downtime is in the morning for US customers, which are a large portion of EVE's players. If downtime was during Europe's morning hours, then it would occur in the middle of US prime time. c) current downtime is in the middle of the work day for EVE's Europe players.
Thus the current downtime is optimal because it is convenient for CCP, and it avoids prime time for the majority of EVE's players. ----------
Originally by: Dr Fighter "how do you know when youve had a repro accident"
Theres modules missing and morphite in your mineral pile.
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trenny jr
Caldari Order of Celestial Knights Galactic System Lords Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.10 21:55:00 -
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Edited by: trenny jr on 10/02/2010 21:56:12 Its normally under and hour and even when its not can't you think of something better to do than stare at the eve log in waiting for the server to come back up (come to think of it if its the middle of the day get your lazy ass a job )
{EDIT} cleared up some errs{EDIT}
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egot istical
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Posted - 2010.02.10 21:57:00 -
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The server is in the UK. the UK is GMT. downtime is based around sociable decent hours for the staff. why the hell would they wanna do it at whatever o'clock in the middle of the night?
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Kidain
Gallente As Far As The eYe can see
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Posted - 2010.02.10 22:02:00 -
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I have to question why it "has" to go down everyday? This isn't me moaning it;s me genuinely asking :)
No other game has DT everyday that I know of? --------------------------------------
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Darth Skorpius
Crystalline INC THE-FEDERATION
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Posted - 2010.02.10 22:03:00 -
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i live in new zealand, and downtime for me hits at either 11pm or 12am (midnight) and is usually my cue to go to bed. if it was moved ot earlier in the morning eu (ie 6 or 7am gmt) then it would hit right in the middle of nz/aus prime time, rather than towards the end of it. game companies dont just throw darts at a clock to set downtimes, they do some research on where their consumer base lives, then use those numbers to work out when to have downtime so that the least number of players are inconvenienced as possible ____________________________________________ Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes.StevieSG |
Aloriana Jacques
Amarr Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2010.02.10 22:11:00 -
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Edited by: Aloriana Jacques on 10/02/2010 22:11:55
Originally by: Kidain I have to question why it "has" to go down everyday? This isn't me moaning it;s me genuinely asking :)
No other game has DT everyday that I know of?
A game who's server population which totals 5-7k can run longer than a game who's server population is 30-60k. How many market orders do you think are created, cancelled, and expire per day? Contracts? How many npcs are killed? What about all the stats that track those numbers to show us the following day? What about things that require downtime to make active? IE: new stations
The amount of calculations and changes to the server need a regular reset to remain accurate. Other games don't track anywhere near the amount of information EVE does, nor has as much activity that requires cleanup. - - - Aloriana Jacques - Skill Sheet
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Nova Fox
Gallente Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2010.02.10 22:15:00 -
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From game play perspective Outpost deployments cant be done while the game is activily running currently. There are also several other mechanics that cannot happen while the game is running.
From IT perspective There is a metric tonn of data of logs and records that need to be backed up and kept track of and sorted though espeically for those pesky isk seller sales and transfers. Imagine if maitenance was every two weeks like world of warcraft then all of a sudden goonswarm crashes eve hard core forcing a roll back. They'd probably wouldnt have lost all of thier turf if it where possible.
From Dev point of view
Dev play time, the 30 minutes to an hour lets them hot check hot fixes on tranquility servers before play time is over.
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Aqriue
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Posted - 2010.02.10 22:18:00 -
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Originally by: Kidain I have to question why it "has" to go down everyday? This isn't me moaning it;s me genuinely asking :)
No other game has DT everyday that I know of?
No other game has 40+ (55K on the weekend!) subs active at once on the same server. Tranquillty gets millions of transactions, ship kills, skill ups, and session changes ect. The poor thing works 23 hours a day , let it have its 1 hour coffee break .
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Mr Epeen
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Posted - 2010.02.10 22:20:00 -
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For the OP. Downtime is not in the middle of the day. It's at 6 in the morning.
For the Americans. Sadly, the entire peoples of the world don't actually schedule their day for your convenience. You just got lucky on this one.
For the poster above. The only research CCP likely did was not where the most subscribers were geographically, but whether they wanted a payroll each week that had a ton of overtime on it for the convenience of one whiner in Germany.
Mr Epeen
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Nova Fox
Gallente Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2010.02.10 22:22:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Epeen For the OP. Downtime is not in the middle of the day. It's at 6 in the morning.
For the Americans. Sadly, the entire peoples of the world don't actually schedule their day for your convenience. You just got lucky on this one.
For the poster above. The only research CCP likely did was not where the most subscribers were geographically, but whether they wanted a payroll each week that had a ton of overtime on it for the convenience of one whiner in Germany.
Mr Epeen
CCP is icelandic last i checked and the server is in london. Pre-order your Sisters of ≡v≡ Exploration ship today, Updated 10FEB10
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.02.10 22:27:00 -
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In before chippy ozzies
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Mr Epeen
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Posted - 2010.02.10 22:28:00 -
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Originally by: Nova Fox
Originally by: Mr Epeen For the OP. Downtime is not in the middle of the day. It's at 6 in the morning.
For the Americans. Sadly, the entire peoples of the world don't actually schedule their day for your convenience. You just got lucky on this one.
For the poster above. The only research CCP likely did was not where the most subscribers were geographically, but whether they wanted a payroll each week that had a ton of overtime on it for the convenience of one whiner in Germany.
Mr Epeen
CCP is icelandic last i checked and the server is in london.
Can't get anything past you, Mr Sharp.
BTW, I'm sure you were thinking you made some kind of a point with that statement. What exactly would it be?
Mr Epeen
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.02.10 22:28:00 -
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Edited by: Zeba on 10/02/2010 22:28:52
Originally by: Malcanis In before chippy ozzies
The kiwis can get right unruly too.
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu The only thing separating us from frightened, feral monkeys is running water on tap, fuel in the tank, and current in our wall sockets.
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Darth Skorpius
Crystalline INC THE-FEDERATION
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Posted - 2010.02.10 22:31:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba Edited by: Zeba on 10/02/2010 22:28:52
Originally by: Malcanis In before chippy ozzies
The kiwis can get right unruly too.
indeed we can, but we are usually pretty laid back untill you start calling us aussies, then you shoudl start running ____________________________________________ Please resize your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes.StevieSG |
Nova Fox
Gallente Novafox Shipyards
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Posted - 2010.02.10 22:34:00 -
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I dunno what was your point? Pre-order your Sisters of ≡v≡ Exploration ship today, Updated 10FEB10
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Kyra Felann
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.02.10 22:37:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Epeen For the Americans. Sadly, the entire peoples of the world don't actually schedule their day for your convenience. You just got lucky on this one.
We're the largest percentage (in before "lol Americans are fat!" joke) of EVE players, thus I wouldn't be surprised at all if we factored into the decision process, despite what snarky, condescending Europeans like yourself might think.
If you don't believe me, look here. Look toward the bottom, where there's a table with percent of subscribers and percent of voters by country. Americans make up about 37% of the players of EVE, followed by the UK with about 14%.
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Ranger 1
Amarr Dynaverse Corporation Vertigo Coalition
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Posted - 2010.02.10 22:41:00 -
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Get a job you slacker.
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Yakoff
Alcatraz Inc. Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2010.02.10 22:42:00 -
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The gerbils take their lunch like any other CCP employee. It is international law or something to that matter of fact. ___ It deosnt mttaer waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, olny taht the frist and lsat leettr be in the rghit pclae. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef. |
Mr Epeen
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Posted - 2010.02.10 22:50:00 -
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Originally by: Kyra Felann
Originally by: Mr Epeen For the Americans. Sadly, the entire peoples of the world don't actually schedule their day for your convenience. You just got lucky on this one.
We're the largest percentage (in before "lol Americans are fat!" joke) of EVE players, thus I wouldn't be surprised at all if we factored into the decision process, despite what snarky, condescending Europeans like yourself might think.
If you don't believe me, look here. Look toward the bottom, where there's a table with percent of subscribers and percent of voters by country. Americans make up about 37% of the players of EVE, followed by the UK with about 14%.
GOD BLESS AMERICA!
Must be hard to type replies while standing at attention at full salute with a patriotic tear in your eye.
Like I said, you just got lucky on this one. If CCP were anywhere else. Say Australia, it would be you that was whining about an inconvenient downtime and not the Aussies, Germans, Kiwis etc.
Mr Epeen
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Stick Cult
Unspoken Autonomy.
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Posted - 2010.02.10 22:59:00 -
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I really think it has nothing to do with the players at all. It's just the middle of the work day for CCP, which lets them fix anything that might go wrong over downtime, or deploy patches, or whatever, without having shifts at 2 in the morning.
As it's been said before.
Originally by: CCP Tuxford my bad.
Rest assured I'm being ridiculed by my co-workers.
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Viktor Fyretracker
Caldari Fyretracker Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2010.02.10 23:02:00 -
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EVE has the best downtimes ever! her in the US the servers are offline while i sleep.
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