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Violet Serena
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Posted - 2010.02.11 20:40:00 -
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 Originally by: Persephone Astrid
It was just your bad luck not to be ambushed by proper pirates. Proper pirates who ransom do still exist.
Does it feel like a much bigger accomplishment? :)
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Tason Hyena
Minmatar
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2010.02.11 20:53:00 -
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Oh no butthurt at all. I just enjoy laughing back. Pirates are silly.
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Fumitsugu
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2010.02.11 22:27:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Pod Amarr
Originally by: Fumitsugu
Originally by: Alice Lidell
What's wrong with the hawk? I'm guessing you have nothing against assault frigates, just that my factional choice was a bad one in your opinion.
The Hawk is widely perceived as being one of the least useful ships in the game.
So was Drake and 3/4s of Caldari ships but that does not make it the truth.
I was merely stating that that was the reason for his being flamed.
Originally by: Tason Hyena
Oh no butthurt at all. I just enjoy laughing back. Pirates are silly.
That's an unfair generalisation, and I feel offended :(
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Laechyd Eldgorn
Caldari
Endemic Aggression
Exalted.
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Posted - 2010.02.12 15:57:00 -
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1) very few people ever pay
2) if they want to pay they've something in their ship which is many times worth of possible ransom, so it's just better to blow them up.
it leaves most of the time only the pods, you don't drop implants anyway.
and in this particular case, hawks might have some mediocrely priced mods so you want to blow them up unless they offer like 25mil+
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Kneebone
Heathens' Harbor
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Posted - 2010.02.12 16:58:00 -
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Originally by: Laechyd Eldgorn
1) very few people ever pay
2) if they want to pay they've something in their ship which is many times worth of possible ransom, so it's just better to blow them up.
it leaves most of the time only the pods, you don't drop implants anyway.
and in this particular case, hawks might have some mediocrely priced mods so you want to blow them up unless they offer like 25mil+
I will disagree there. Part of the whole ransom is a negotiation. I was doing a WH in a Drake a while back and was tackled by an Inty, then a Hyperion came in. Took him a bit to get my shields down and while he was blasting away we were chatting. He wanted a 50Mil ransom for my ship and I basically said 50Mil was unreasonable because of insurance and the price of the mods. I offered him 20Mil and said that was the out of pocket cost to replace me ship after insurance. He could take the money and be happy, or he could blow me up and get 1/3rd of the 20Mil if he got luck with the mod drops. 20Mil later he was happy and I still had my ship.
Ransoming isn't dead, it just requires a bit more patience and social engineering then people are willing to put forth.
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Taedrin
Gallente
The Green Cross
DEFI4NT
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Posted - 2010.02.12 17:28:00 -
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Originally by: Laechyd Eldgorn
1) very few people ever pay
2) if they want to pay they've something in their ship which is many times worth of possible ransom, so it's just better to blow them up.
This is why you fit a ship scanner. If you find out that they have faction/officer mods, you can ransom them appropriately.
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Originally by: Dr Fighter
"how do you know when youve had a repro accident"
Theres modules missing and morphite in your mineral pile.
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BeachParty
Caldari
Semi Precious
The 0bsidian 0rder
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Posted - 2010.02.12 17:57:00 -
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Edited by: BeachParty on 12/02/2010 18:03:37
I was taking a short cut through low Sec. on my way to grandmothers POS in a Faction Cruiser. I was totally minding my own business when out of no where I was webbed, scrammed, jammed, popped and podded. I would have payed a ransom but none was offered. I am mystified why someone would ever take the time to scan me down form a gang corner me in a belt and then just kill me? Time for another clone birthday party.
P.S Most PVP Pilots in low sec. are not Pirates, why has no one figured this out?
BeachParty
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Shad0w Hawk
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2010.02.12 18:26:00 -
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Originally by: BeachParty
on my way to grandmothers POS
Did she turn out to be the big bad wolf? 
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Gaven Darklighter
Gallente
The Athiest Syndicate
Advocated Destruction
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Posted - 2010.02.12 23:18:00 -
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Originally by: Tason Hyena
Oh no butthurt at all. I just enjoy laughing back. Pirates are silly.
You're silly
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Boomershoot
Caldari
Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2010.02.12 23:31:00 -
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i stopped ransoming and refusing any ransom proposal.
blame the people that didn't want to pay and told you to stop paying ransom.
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Diraus Omega
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Posted - 2010.02.13 01:04:00 -
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Originally by: Boomershoot
i stopped ransoming and refusing any ransom proposal.
blame the people that didn't want to pay and told you to stop paying ransom.
its not the people who wont pay the ransoms fault, its the fact that the ransoms not worth paying, its risk vs reward so so many people have experiences of ransoms not being honoured so they wont pay.
then factor in the fact more tech 1 ships nowadays are basically free to replace after insurance. on a battle ship your looking at maybe 30-40 mil anything smaller 10-20 mil that's for the cost of the mods, nobody is going to be willing to pay more then half that as a risk. and given most have had at least 1 experience of a ransom not being honoured most wont take the risk for something like 10-20 mil which can be replaced in a few hours.
so from both point of views its a win win until a pod comes into play.
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Miney Prospector
Standards and Practices
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Posted - 2010.02.13 01:38:00 -
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I got rasomed today, my own fault... stupid jita run. Anyways, its out there, they locked me down and put me into armor damage and the chat invite was incoming. Asked em what the toll was, paid it, and took the long way 'round on the way home.
Trancehacker -- "HOW DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG I'VE BEEN PLAYIN???"
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