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Beseb
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Posted - 2003.06.25 17:32:00 -
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Up until last night, I thought these guys were just another medium sized corporation carving out thier niche in Eve.
Well, while waiting outside a station for a fellow corp mate, the CEO of DD (Daez) warps in and my threat box lights up. So, doing what any good citizen would do, I lock him and proceed to neutralize the threat. Within seconds, 3 other ships are firing on me.
Needless to say, I was destroyed, and then podded. Fortunatly, I was able to destroy Daez before going down in flames.
After the incident, I delved the players involved and all but one had negative security ratings and they were all Da-Dragons.
So, I guess this is just a heads up. Da-Dragons seems to be a once law abiding corporation of Eve turned bad. Adjust your corp rating appropriatly.
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Valeria
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Posted - 2003.06.25 17:47:00 -
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What was the color of that threat box?
Your 425mm Prototype I Gauss Gun perfectly strikes some nublar, wrecking for 1155.0 damage. |
She Devil
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Posted - 2003.06.25 17:57:00 -
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Lol, Um... Beseb, what WAS the color of that threat box? If it was Yellow, then that just means the person has a low security rating and your computer was alerting you to that fact, not that they locked onto you. Orange would mean they locked onto you, and Red would mean that they were firing on you... |
Minsc
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Posted - 2003.06.25 18:45:00 -
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Um. Beseb...I think you fired on an innocent player.
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Aras
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Posted - 2003.06.25 19:02:00 -
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innocent players don't have negative sec status. =P
**I'm a flower, watch me blossom... and kill** |
Drefsab
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Posted - 2003.06.25 19:23:00 -
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Not so, for example when people had to denfend my ore from theifs, or splash damage from missles? or even lag issues when using sheild transfer mods. There are plenty of ways that an innocent player can get a negative status.
"Death Before Dishonor" |
Faulker
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Posted - 2003.06.25 19:44:00 -
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Yes Da Dragons are PK'ers (want a B Pirates) they hide behind M3G4 |
Beseb
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Posted - 2003.06.25 20:01:00 -
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I don't recall the color of the threat, but isn't that really irrelevant? In my experience, players with negative security are killers. Odds are, I'd have been locked and fired upon and would have had zero chance to kill him. Since I locked immediatly upon the threat, I at least had a chance to do something about it.
Besides, 2 of the other players that engaged me not only had neg sec, but also had bounties. So the question remains, has DD converted to PK/Piracy?
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.06.25 20:06:00 -
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<< In my experience, players with negative security are killers. >>
Then your experience is limited. I would have had a negative sec rating over splash damage done to a gang mate during a fight with npc pirates. I didn't go negative just barely. I also use smartbombs when flying solo and it's potentially very easy for someone to warp into a roid belt where I am and land in the blast radius (depending on where they came from).
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
Bashar
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Posted - 2003.06.25 20:10:00 -
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If you go shooting people who blink yellow on your threat list in empire space, you run the risk of losing sec status for starting the fight...it won't take but a few times before you will be the one blinking yellow on everyone elses threat window ;)
regards,
Bashar Miles Teg
Shop Smart, Shop BasharMart! |
Beseb
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Posted - 2003.06.25 20:41:00 -
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It wasn't empire space, it was 0.0 and I recieved no sec hit for opening fire.
I am concerned about this whole security issue though. I would never intentionally attempt to destroy a truly "innocent" player. The mechanics of this security status business needs a real once over as it appears to be quite broken atm.
One thing they could add in right away I think is to allow players to "drop charges" so-to-speak against another player. In your example of inadvertently getting neg sec from smart bomb use, the player that was damaged could contact Concord and absolve you of wrong doing and Concord would in turn remove the security penalty.
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Madox
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Posted - 2003.06.25 21:43:00 -
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here's a quick quote for the DA site itself (terrible logo btw):
"Minara its a bit late to worry bout that there is already a post naming YOU as a pod killer and naming our HQ the link is the first post under biomass cartel in members"
and here's the thread in its entirety, which is actually a pretty hilarious read:
http://da-dragons.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=283 |
Deathwing
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Posted - 2003.06.25 23:15:00 -
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So you locked onto him and fired at him
yet he handnt locked on to you
ofc his corp mates are gonna come fry you buddy
In eve, a simple lock is a hostile action, you locked onto me and i would have fired at you regardless if you had fired at me, once you lock, your prety much saying "Lets fight"
<Stavros> A MAN DRESSED AS SPIDERMAN KICKED MY ASS |
loci
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Posted - 2003.06.26 00:57:00 -
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you did good m8, Da-Dragons are M3G4's lapdogs
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Snoop
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Posted - 2003.06.26 03:39:00 -
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They are Player killing Scum!
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Alexander Drake
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Posted - 2003.06.26 06:03:00 -
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A tarnish on all things draconic....who pluralizes a word with a 'z' anyway? Damned idiots is what they are. If DHI ever run afoul a single (or many) da-dragon member anywhere, we will not hesitate to make the remember where the TRUE fire burns.
Let it be known, stay far away from DHI little wyrms, the ire of a true magnus draconis will leave you a charred bit of space flotsam.
Edited by: Alexander Drake on 26/06/2003 06:03:30
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"Violence is not the answer, it is the question. YES is the answer."
::CEO/Founder:: -=Draconis Heavy Industries=- |
eggdasei
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Posted - 2003.06.26 11:12:00 -
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m3g4 and da-dragons:
Tank CEO
Stratos
Shinana
number one
sara kerrigan
deaz
camping at gates and shooting at indys and small / single ships. but they run fast when they see more cruisers lol
kill them, they arent worth to have them in game. |
Teister
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Posted - 2003.06.26 12:05:00 -
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Also pod killing players from Da Dragons:
Narayan Derial <sp?>
thebinery
Teister
DSMO Director
Indepent Miners Guild
CEO Independent Miners Guild
President, CFS Alliance
www.cfs-eve.org
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Armen Dzhezkov
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Posted - 2003.06.26 12:14:00 -
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-EDIT: Double post.
Edited by: Armen Dzhezkov on 26/06/2003 12:17:24
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Armen Dzhezkov
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Posted - 2003.06.26 12:14:00 -
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Da-Dragons used to be cool, but I'll tell you what, their CEO is a nutcase. Back a long time ago we did a Thorax BP deal with them, and he kept talking about taking over whole regions and how we can destroy everything and stuff. Needless to say, I gravitated away from dealings with that corp at that time, but this doesn't surprise me. Oh, and by the way, I have -2.0 sec status. I'm not a bad guy character, but I killed a -sec person with a bounty in .4 space and took a sec hit, so not everyone who blinks yellow is a threat to you. Most probably are though.
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8t88
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Posted - 2003.06.26 12:28:00 -
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< camping at gates and shooting at indys and small / single ships. but they run fast when they see more cruisers lol >
hey isn't that what all pk's do? camping at stations just do instant-dock if it get's hot?
trying to lag out ppl's pc's by dropping lots of conts at the jump-in...
but, whew how they can run. lol
hope for ya, you'll get them some time.
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Mach
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Posted - 2003.06.26 12:57:00 -
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Beseb,
Its true that just because someone shows up in you threat window does not mean that are firing on you or even locked on. Something to think about in the future.
That being said, good job! Da Dragons are part of a pirate alliance that contains the largest pirate corps as well as some of the smaller ones. This unholy union is sometimes referred to in the game as the 'stain alliance'
Edited by: Mach on 26/06/2003 12:58:04 |
drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.06.26 13:13:00 -
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I've met some members of the stain alliance.
Had I been asked, I would have paid my toll, but I was let of by one of the nicer members (I guess) only to walk into Tank the*****holster, who PK's on sight.
You cannot run a succesful alliance if I can't even find two players who are whistling the same tune (Murdoc was whistling, Tank was banging saucepans with a spoon).
I managed to lose a lot of respect for this 'alliance'. respect that was only earnt about 15 minutes beforehand, when I first heard of you.
The alliances reputation rests on the people you meet. If you let one of your loose monkeys out to murder people for no reason in a bottleneck, why the hell do you think people will pay for safe passage?
Lose the tool at the gate, and earn some respect for yourselves, maybe people would pay.
"Man shall not fear the uncoordinated" - Some guy (that I just made up)
the tool at the gate might not be one of yours, I don't know, but if he is or not, eliminating him should be on your to-do list.
Edited by: drunkenmaster on 26/06/2003 14:04:28
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Reventlov
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Posted - 2003.06.26 14:55:00 -
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Da Dragons is not and never has been a member of the Stain Alliance.
The Stain Alliance has a stated desire for peace and prosperity, and does not willfully attack players outside our borders unless provoked or attacked in turn. We contain no pirate organizations in our number.
I just wanted to clip that statement in the bud. I expect Lothaar will respond more thouroughly later.
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Reventlov
Officer, TacDiv
The Collective
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.06.26 15:20:00 -
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Thanks for clearing that up. And apologies for staining (bad pun?) your name.
This being the case, could you do something about Tank? He's giving Stain a bad name.
While I'm here, could you tell me what the Stain Alliance agenda is? I was under the impression that you were charging people to hunt/mine in Stain.
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Heff
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Posted - 2003.06.26 16:45:00 -
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Yes -- DA Dragons were ambushing a gate last night with Tank CEO and demanding money for allowing people to pass. They continually tried to attack my corp mate but a number of other players came in and they all chased them off (see my post in the General Discussion forum).
DA Dragons should be considered a pirate corp.
Heff
Co-CEO Playboy Enterprises
[email protected]
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Pokita
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Posted - 2003.06.26 16:51:00 -
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At which station do dadragons have their production station? |
Buddy Bruehller
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Posted - 2003.06.26 19:12:00 -
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They base is in region curse. Start with the k and have sometimes lots of players. Easy to see.
These are worst player I've seen. 4 to 1 they lose the ship each time. This why ithink they run to hide all the time.
Maybe m3g4 is to describe them man 3 part girl 4 part so like mainly girl you know.
But I laff sooo hard when they die becaues the way corp says you wish we were myth. LOL they arn't a myth they r the fairy tale with butterflys and unicorns. LOL
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Alexander Drake
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Posted - 2003.06.26 22:24:00 -
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I'd like to know exactly where they are so we can squash them. Bring the pain you pansy fire-spitters!
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"Violence is not the answer, it is the question. YES is the answer."
::CEO/Founder:: -=Draconis Heavy Industries=- |
Pokita
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Posted - 2003.06.26 23:51:00 -
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Well, there appears to be a line at the buffet. Probably best to wait till the cows have fed. |
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