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domitesting
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Posted - 2010.02.13 15:56:00 -
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Why the hell do -A- need even Providence? Tbh its becoming a joke how much these alliances are just swallowing up whole regions, 'just for lulz and cos we can' its become very very easy now for large alliances to take whatever they want..now we see eve turning into a few alliances owning everything - oh chinese server maybe! F*ck after a few years of eve ive seen it decline and decline, i really cant be arsed with this game anymore..time for something new..
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Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
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Posted - 2010.02.13 16:19:00 -
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The cost of owning space has to be increased immensely to avoid it, but then some sort of sliding scale would need to be in place to give small outfits a discount on sovereignty. Eve has for the most part been 3-4 power-blocs only, recent tilt is towards mega-alliances rather than huge nap-fests but the blocs have not changed in number .. larger though.
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Amarr Supremacist
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Posted - 2010.02.13 16:33:00 -
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If you're quitting you should send your stuff to someone who is working hard against these evil powerblocs. Such as me, Intigo! Contract it ingame and I will make sure it is used in fighting the -A- powerbloc!
It's not -A- taking Providence anymore, it's U'K. -A- have almost pulled out of the whole sov warfare there, it's mostly just U'K taking systems now. U'K is mostly in it for the whole RP factor and "PROVIDENCE WAS OUR SPACE blabla".
Also, systems cost a lot already. It's really not such a big deal as people are making it out to be.
- Intigo
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shoeless JoeJackson
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Posted - 2010.02.13 16:50:00 -
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Not sure of the exact politics involved but I believe cva originally attacked -A- . This seems to be a punishment to remind cva why they and -A- don't do sov warfare with each other.
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BuckStrider
Naughty 40
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Posted - 2010.02.13 17:39:00 -
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Originally by: domitesting Why the hell do -A- need even Providence? Tbh its becoming a joke how much these alliances are just swallowing up whole regions, 'just for lulz and cos we can' its become very very easy now for large alliances to take whatever they want..now we see eve turning into a few alliances owning everything - oh chinese server maybe! F*ck after a few years of eve ive seen it decline and decline, i really cant be arsed with this game anymore..time for something new..
No, it wasn't 'just for the lulz'...CVA was attempting to help Goons.
-A- didn't like that.
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Santiago Fahahrri
Galactic Geographic
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Posted - 2010.02.13 18:34:00 -
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Alliance politics is a "playing for keeps" game. Both sides knew the risks.
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Aka5ha
Gallente
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Posted - 2010.02.14 06:00:00 -
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Your worried about CVA? They deserve to die anyways for their role playing gestapo policies. You should be worried about how IT owns 3 regions and does POS bashing roams in surrounding lowsec areas. Theyre no better than goons.
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GowithJesusBrah
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Posted - 2010.02.14 08:27:00 -
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Originally by: BuckStrider
Originally by: domitesting Why the hell do -A- need even Providence? Tbh its becoming a joke how much these alliances are just swallowing up whole regions, 'just for lulz and cos we can' its become very very easy now for large alliances to take whatever they want..now we see eve turning into a few alliances owning everything - oh chinese server maybe! F*ck after a few years of eve ive seen it decline and decline, i really cant be arsed with this game anymore..time for something new..
No, it wasn't 'just for the lulz'...CVA was attempting to help Goons.
-A- didn't like that.
There are still people stupid enough to believe that...
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Marlona Sky
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.02.14 09:15:00 -
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Sounds like someone is mad because they can't rat in 0.0 for free anymore.
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Steve Celeste
Caldari Inglorious-Basterds
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Posted - 2010.02.14 09:27:00 -
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I hear STO is looking for players.... cya
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2010.02.14 11:05:00 -
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isn't caod that way ->
and meh 1 failance down meh?
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domitesting
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Posted - 2010.02.14 18:50:00 -
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Originally by: Marlona Sky Sounds like someone is mad because they can't rat in 0.0 for free anymore.
not at all dude, i live in another 0.0 region far far away ;) - being ex tri i remember the tri mk1 CVA invasion :)
Anyway its not about CVA, its just one more thing after another, I mean its now become for the luls cos we can attitude, same ol powerblocs controlling eve and its seems it will never end..tbh i cant be ar$ed with all that anymore.. the new sov has clearly opened the way for the large alliances to easily take space, but its not just a few systems, its regions now.. I mean CVA well Provi is a crap region, no one really wanted it for the actual space, IT alliance has just took three regions...wtf back to 2003 again, its just ridiculous that alliances can hold than one region, in fact holding a whole region is far too much..new sov mechanics...my ar$e.... Just for the record, i infact not part of any sov/space holding alliance, so it actually doesnt effect me, i have been but not now..and well i really hoped dominion would change all the rich get richer crap and its only made it 10 times worse..great work CCP
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Tagami Wasp
Caldari Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.02.14 20:16:00 -
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Edited by: Tagami Wasp on 14/02/2010 20:16:37 Have you tried to take a properly defended system? I've flown in most fights we had down in the South. Everything you just said is so wrong I can't even start taking it apart. I smell CVA alt or Provipet who's lost a load of assets in 9UY.
We have been fighting to get where we are for the last 3 years. If you want something you step up and fight. If you fold, then prepare to be shredded.
TL:DR Can I haz your stuff?
edit: dyslexics of the world. UNTIE!! ------------ Railgun performance required fix: - +15% railgun damage modifier - +10% PG for Caldari railgun ships |
Haalanii
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Posted - 2010.02.14 23:25:00 -
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Originally by: domitesting Why the hell do -A- need even Providence? Tbh its becoming a joke how much these alliances are just swallowing up whole regions, 'just for lulz and cos we can' its become very very easy now for large alliances to take whatever they want..now we see eve turning into a few alliances owning everything - oh chinese server maybe! F*ck after a few years of eve ive seen it decline and decline, i really cant be arsed with this game anymore..time for something new..
-A- do not need or want Providence. The region would cost a huge amount to maintain (look at all the stations) and really the only reason the holders aren't losing money now is their NRDS policy, which draws tons of ratters to fuel the local economy by shopping and selling their mods in stations where you pay the holders a docking fee.
-A- were forced into making an example in key systems held by the holders after their very generous offer to return D-G and stop all sov-related hostilities was rejected.
UK, on the other hand, are taking this more seriously as an opportunity to achieve their long-held desire to reclaim their former territory. If you look at UK, their size could easily support additional space, it's not like -A- or Atlas who own more than they can use and develop. While slightly off-topic, Atlas has solved this issue with renters, so it's not as if large entities have no way to fill the space either.
The reality is that CVA started a land-grab attempt in the systems where -A- dropped sov post-dominion to conserve isk. However, it was well known that -A- still considered these within its sphere of influence. LFA and other lesser holders wanted to expand, and this was as good a time as any.
CVA and their lesser allies took an opportunity to attack when -A- was fighting Goons. While not their primary intention, this opened a 2nd front and helped Goons. While ultimately irrelevant to the final outcome of the war for Querious/Delve/PB, this touched a nerve within -A-, who have always seen Providence as a valuable neighbor (due to the excellent roaming).
Still, being more than fair, -A- forgave CVA's opportunistic land-grab and, after decimating a capital fleet with few losses of their own, literally offered to reset the board and give back the station they took while simultaneously returning to pre-war conditions (e.g. - red status but no sov warfare).
Providence is delusional if they think they can take sovereign space from -A- in Catch. However, I suspect they believe that -A- has no real desire to hold their new Providence-based gains. The holders are probably banking on UK being swept away easily when -A- get bored with this "revenge" campaign. In the end, the same boundaries would be redrawn and Prov will have gained nothing in the way of new space.
What the holders will have gained in that scenario, however, is the ability to claim they "defeated -A- + UK" or "repelled the invasion." If CVA value anything in their role-play it's pride. Most of the members are very egotistical, and it's not uncommon for their members to outright claim that CVA is on-par with the top alliances in-game.
I think that the holders should tread carefully. -A- have a long history of showing no mercy to weaker alliances, even ones it previously had blue. Look at IAC for an example, they slowly ate it alive. With UK willing to maintain the space for them, -A- just might decide to go all the way on this one.
It's not too late for the holders to go back to the good old days. I think that, before -A- and UK start taking moons and playing the economic warfare game, holders need to show some humility. The holders will not enjoy running Prov with a massive deficit each month.
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