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Andreus LeHane
Gallente
Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2010.02.14 20:09:00 -
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I propose that if and when the Intaki system is retaken from Caldari occupation by the Gallente militia, it is taken off the list of threatened systems and given a security status of at least 0.5. From the standpoint of the game's storyline, there's no way, after all the political turmoil the loss of the system has caused the Federation, that they would not make a more convincing attempt to secure the system. The current situation, with the homeplanet of one of the Federation's founding races, containing billions of Federal citizens - occupied by an enemy force with absolutely no effort by the Federation Navy to reclaim it - simply does not make any sense at all.
Even prior to FW, the fact that two systems so important to the Federation - Mannar and Intaki - were left defenceless while Lirsautton, the seat of the Jin-Mei - one of the Federation's newest members - was hi-sec space, was exceptionally inconsistent. I accept that the Federation cannot possibly have the manpower to guard every colony, but the fact that they'd make no effort whatsoever to guard the home planets of two of their founding members just doesn't make sense.
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Tvaishk Suzuki
Long Night Industries
Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.14 20:18:00 -
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This is a good idea working it could be intresting but for systems so important it does seem that there excusion from high sec is rather daming of the federation which would raise the question why these races suport the galenti when security in there space hasn't been made a priority.
But yes most definatly Signed. 
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Sahaquiel Faust
Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2010.02.14 20:20:00 -
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Edited by: Sahaquiel Faust on 14/02/2010 20:20:54
Agreed. The fact that Intaki isn't a highsec system is ridiculous.
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Maxsim Goratiev
Imperial Tau Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.02.14 20:25:00 -
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It's time the new federal government stops playing there politiocal games and starts funding there navy and tightening security around here. As s sitisent of gallente federation, i approve this message.
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Demonos Silentium
Caldari
Nictus Astartes
Talos Coalition
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Posted - 2010.02.14 20:27:00 -
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i am not hardcore roleplayer but having intaki as lowsec system is bit weird and illogical. so yeah. support from me (even if i am caldari) for this issue
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Vincent Pryce
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2010.02.14 20:32:00 -
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Valid point. Though just slapping it 0.5 would be silly would like to see some IC storyline leading to this, maybe have Ishukone involved in all this.
Anyways I've always found it rather peculiar that Intaki has been a low security system, for the afore mentioned reason that it is one of the cornerstone worlds of the Gallente Federation.
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Neo Gabriel
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.02.14 20:32:00 -
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It would be nice to have a highsec island here. It would also be nice if more lowsec systems were created around intaki.
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Sat'Tal
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Posted - 2010.02.14 20:36:00 -
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Edited by: Sat''Tal on 14/02/2010 20:37:12
This would be like Khanid Prime being low sec. Or Saisio being low sec. It really does need to be fixed. It seems kinda silly that they would even let such planets be undefended. Or fall. Unless the Gallente federation really is in dire straights. Perhaps their position of power is weaker then we thought?
Could we see the entire Gallente federation crushed under the heel of a combined Caldari/Amarr fleet?
I hope not. High sec status for Intaki please.
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Gabriel Darkefyre
Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2010.02.14 20:53:00 -
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Agreed. There are several other Gallente systems that can be added to the FW Warzone in the Place of Intaki if necessary for Balancing Purposes (Several Parts of Low Sec Verge Vendor for example)
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Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2010.02.14 20:54:00 -
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They cahnged the sec status of Sarum Prime a long time ago, so there's no reason why they couldn't do it for Intaki.
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Julianus Soter
Moira.
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Posted - 2010.02.14 21:05:00 -
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This would be fantastic to see. And at long last, facwar would seem to have some significance.
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Jonny Damordred
Moira.
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Posted - 2010.02.14 21:06:00 -
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Yep.
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Abhaya meshdatar
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Posted - 2010.02.14 21:28:00 -
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Agreed. Although i too would like to see a story line about it.
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Myrhial Arkenath
Ghost Festival
Naraka.
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Posted - 2010.02.14 21:30:00 -
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Interesting idea, this has my support
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Liang Nuren
No Salvation
War.Pigs.
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Posted - 2010.02.14 21:48:00 -
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More things like this would make FW worth it. :)
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Tomahawk Bliss
Minmatar
DAEDALUS X
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2010.02.14 23:08:00 -
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The Intaki in the back story seem to prefer a lack of Concord.
After such hostility in the PF and the game I would like to see the Intaki react against the external forces over all and change their status to 0.0, free from all external law and concord.
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Santiago Fahahrri
Galactic Geographic
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Posted - 2010.02.14 23:22:00 -
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 Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss
The Intaki in the back story seem to prefer a lack of Concord.
After such hostility in the PF and the game I would like to see the Intaki react against the external forces over all and change their status to 0.0, free from all external law and concord.
Kinda like the Intaki Syndicate and the Mordus Sov has now
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Faraelle Brightman
Gallente
Eleutherian Guard
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Posted - 2010.02.16 07:50:00 -
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I'm torn.
On the one hand, raising the security status was one of the early goals of Placid Reborn back in the day, back when a sufficiently interesting group of role-players could get enough CCP attention to actually influence the storyline - the plight of Placid and the existence of the separatists became canon eventually. A more general proposal then involved developing game mechanics so that players could dynamically influence a system's sec status depending on pirate vs anti-pirate activity.
On the other hand, changing it now would deminish some rather interesting RP angles and might come with unforeseen consequences as the storyline team finds reasons to make that 300 year old request for isolation less unreasonable, given the current status of the Gallente. Likewise, I think it has a snowball's chance in hell, but I suppose it's worth asking.
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Rvlxnx
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Posted - 2010.02.20 17:43:00 -
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ye i agree on this. I am Intaki and it would be nice to visit my homeworld(s) also it would be nice to do race specific missions in your homeworld(s).
I fear at this point the only way I would be able to return home would be to join the Syndicate (not that its a bad idea but it is the point that i cant return home without getting PK'd) so even though the Syndicate (if i remember correctly) is outcast from the federation; I am outcast from my homeworld(s).
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Atraxerxes
Caldari
22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit
OWN Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.20 23:50:00 -
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So what happens to anybody who has a pos already set up there?
What about the 2 Cadnium & 1 titanium moons there? Will they still be mineable?
How ridiculous would it look to have a hi sec system by itself in a low sec dead end constellation? I mean 4 jumps from the closest hi sec system? c'mon.
Not to mention this would set up a precedent for other systems to have pilots begging for being turned into hi sec.
I love the idea of the Intaki struggle in game, but if I'm correct they don't really want to be Gallente all that much, so why would it matter if the Gal's took that space back.
You want to make it real interesting, open up Luminaire so that Caldari FW pilots can drop in cap ships to help out that Titan.
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Gabriel Darkefyre
Minmatar
Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2010.02.21 00:34:00 -
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Originally by: Atraxerxes
How ridiculous would it look to have a hi sec system by itself in a low sec dead end constellation? I mean 4 jumps from the closest hi sec system? c'mon.
Three Jumps, Actually.
Stacmon (High Sec) - Ostingele - Agoze - Intaki
And it'd be as ridiculous as, for example, the Actee system, which is also part of a High Sec Island 3 Jumps from the Next section of High Sec Space.
Actee (High Sec) - Heydieles - Old Man Star - Villore (High Sec)
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Actee (High Sec) - Heydieles - Yvangier - Charmerout (High Sec)
Beyond Actee there's a Dead End Branch consisting of a Single High Sec System (Amane) and a Low Sec System (Estaunitte) at the end of the Branch.
There's also the Serpent's Coil High Sec Island Section between Ostingele and Aubenall.
So, Plenty of Precident for the formation of a High Sec Island just going by current Geography in the nearby area.
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I'd say in regard to the Moons in question that they'd be grandfathered in. No New Operations would be possible but any Moon Miners currently anchored would continue to operate as normal until unanchored/destroyed by Hostile Action.
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You're also wrong about the Intaki not wanting to be a part of the Federation. Most of the Sources so far portray the seperatist movement as being a Very Vocal Minority. There's a lot more Intaki either in the Pro Federation Camp, or the "Really don't care either Way" Camp
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I SoStoned
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Posted - 2010.02.21 01:28:00 -
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Amarr homeworld: 1.0
Minmatar homeworld: 1.0
Caldari homeworld: 1.0
Gallente Homeworld: 0.1
How does this make sense?
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Deviana Sevidon
Panta-Rhei
Butterfly Effect Alliance
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Posted - 2010.02.21 17:49:00 -
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Supported, the Intaki it would be good from an story point of view to make these high secure system. It would even make sense as a PR coup of president Roden to win the votes of the federation Intaki and weaken Caldari and Syndicate influence on them.
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Krotfric McEnchroe
Medical Mechanical
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Posted - 2010.02.21 18:14:00 -
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Supported
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Finistri Nirum
Caldari
Blue Republic
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Posted - 2010.02.21 18:55:00 -
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/notsigned
The only way I could support this is if the Gallente militia take the Intaki system back and hold it for a certain amount of time.
In fact, let the reverse be true: If the Caldari militia get back in the game and take some systems and hold them, they should become Caldari sovereignty systems. If they hold them even longer, their sec status should go up. And vice-versa.
Probably won't happen, but I can always dream.
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Alain Colcer
Strix Armaments and Defence
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Posted - 2010.02.21 19:43:00 -
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I support it being converted into a high-sec system as long as a good story-arc supports said change.
However take into consideration a completely isolated high-sec like that would be illogical too, so perhaps re-routing some stargates and connecting Intaki to Stacmon or something similar might be viable.
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TimMc
Trans-Solar Works
Rooks and Kings
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Posted - 2010.02.21 19:56:00 -
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I thought the Intaki sympathised with Caldari, at least more than other Gallente.
But yes, I think it should be removed from a FW conquerable zone but still made lowsec. The Gallente fleets would assemble if it was ever under real threat.
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Andreus LeHane
Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2010.02.22 03:16:00 -
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Edited by: Andreus LeHane on 22/02/2010 03:21:08
Originally by: TimMc
I thought the Intaki sympathised with Caldari, at least more than other Gallente.
The Intaki who sympathised with the Caldari are either in Syndicate or with the Mordus. All canon states, without exception, that the majority of the Intaki in the Federation (certainly not all of them, but most of them) support the Federation.
Originally by: Atraxerxes
I love the idea of the Intaki struggle in game, but if I'm correct they don't really want to be Gallente all that much, so why would it matter if the Gal's took that space back.
As stated above, this is an incorrect interpretation of the canon.
Originally by: Atraxerxes
You want to make it real interesting, open up Luminaire so that Caldari FW pilots can drop in cap ships to help out that Titan.
So let me get this straight... you want CCP to change it so that Caldari can deploy capships to support the Titan in Luminaire, but Gallente cannot, giving Caldari an obvious away-field advantage that cannot be countered by the FDU? That's pretty transparent.
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soldieroffortune 258
Trinity Council
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Posted - 2010.02.22 03:51:00 -
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Meh, supported . . . why not
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Zagamesh
Strix Armaments and Defence
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Posted - 2010.02.22 04:50:00 -
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Has my support, but only if it is backed by in-game player action.
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