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Moonlit Raid State War Academy Caldari State 17	Posted - 2012.06.28 18:04:00 - [1] - Quote What question gives you butterflies in your tummy when you get asked by a rookie. I'll start: "What's the best ship?"
Tau Cabalander Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs 792	Posted - 2012.06.28 18:18:00 - [2] - Quote So many to choose from. For example: "What skill reduces the distance you land from a gate?"
Petrus Blackshell Rifterlings Damu'Khonde 1336	Posted - 2012.06.28 18:22:00 - [3] - Quote Where can I find good PvP? Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers (all races, not just Rifters!). US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. Free fitted frigates for members!
Keras Authion Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 98	Posted - 2012.06.28 18:26:00 - [4] - Quote What's the biggest ship in EvE? I want to fly that one! The previous post was rated "C" for capsuleer.

CCP Phantom C C P C C P Alliance 1526	Posted - 2012.06.28 18:30:00 - [5] - Quote I like them ALL! On a more serious note, those questions show also how we can improve our game and where lack of information can easily lead to frustration and even quitting EVE before having seen any of the wonderful New Eden universe and its inhabitants. CCP Phantom - German Community Coordinator

Sentient Blade Walk It Off 424	Posted - 2012.06.28 18:37:00 - [6] - Quote I remember back when I first started playing one of the biggest difficulties I had in understanding things was... wtf were stargates and how did I get to them? They're either hidden as some 16x16 icon somewhere on a screen full of black, or on the overview flooded out by rookie ships and a bunch of other junk. In fact I got so frustrated I ended up locking up the first ship I saw and shooting at it, and got concorded for my trouble. I don't know what it's like now, but if it was anything like what it was 2 years ago, travelling around really needs some help.
Forum Clone 77777 State War Academy Caldari State 26	Posted - 2012.06.28 18:42:00 - [7] - Quote I also love when they ask "How do I move?" I personally had trouble moving when I started and so I ended up floating away from the station for kilometers and kilometers before I tried to double mouse click and then I was like "ZOMFG IM FLYING!" But I hear thats all in the tutorial.
Tevar Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic 3	Posted - 2012.06.28 18:43:00 - [8] - Quote Hmnn... Just a quick thought and possibly a humble reminder to the devs... Eve is huge. Eve is complicated. Eve does NOT hold your hand. because of this... Eve can have moments of pure wonder... Eve can have moments of true triumph... Eve creates more reality due to it's harsh and complex nature than any almost any other MMO. Dear Devs, While the entire industry is slowly realizing you guys got it right... Don't turn the one game giving this entire industry a gut check... into a Wow clone... remember your noobs... like it spicy... keep it spicy! struggle and hardship... creates diamond hard vets and raises the level and competitiveness of gamers in the entire industry. TL;DR don't cave to the carebear onslaught now CCP your winning hearts and minds.
testy ickles Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 1	Posted - 2012.06.28 18:44:00 - [9] - Quote whats the best rock to mine for isk how do i make isk where can i make isk to plex whats an incursion can i join incursions i fly a cruiser how do i level up my skills how do i use drones what skill.module do i get to get more high slots on my ship how can i fit more mining lazers on my badger why do police shoot me in high sec when i shoot someone the list is endless my amigos
Andoria Thara Fallen Avatars 62	Posted - 2012.06.28 18:50:00 - [10] - Quote "How much isk per hour can I make mining?"
J'Poll Pioneer's of the Galantic Wars Ethereal Dawn 308	Posted - 2012.06.28 18:59:00 - [11] - Quote "How do I grind my skills?" "Is "x" SP/hour the best I can get?" "Is remapping to this good for my 2 month plan?" "I can't PvP till I own 500mil, how can I make ISK fast?" "How can I catch up with older characters?" EDIT: And as of lately: "I joined a corp that advertised me by mailing, they shot me down in my "all-my-ISK-are-in-this-ship" Hulk. Why didn't CONCORD safe me?" Inject your skillbook before you leave the station. Neo didnGÇÖt learn Kung-Fu by having it sit in his usb drive.-á If it moves, shoot it. If it doesn't move, poke it with your gun and then shoot it. We are not running, we are advancing in the opposite direction
Sin Pew Dakini Rising The Kali Cartel 78	Posted - 2012.06.28 19:02:00 - [12] - Quote Can someone lend me 2mil ISK? I double back, promised. "- You want a sandwich, Bacon?" Support horizontal scrollbars in Eve! Click here, tyvm.
Ano Regni The Southern Gentleman's Social Club Back To Earth 4	Posted - 2012.06.28 19:17:00 - [13] - Quote You were all newbs before and asked those very same questions, so shuuush!! The best thing about a boolean is even if you are wrong, you are only off by a bit.
Kalea Hashur Promethium Corp. Army of Dark Shadows 4	Posted - 2012.06.28 19:22:00 - [14] - Quote Perhaps this thread would be more helpful to new citizens if everyone explained / answered the question that they're suggesting. Old vets can sit around and point and laugh, but the new folks are thinking "hey... that was a valid question... what's wrong with it?"
Aeo Kai Running with Knives Nexus Fleet 0	Posted - 2012.06.28 19:38:00 - [15] - Quote Here's a question which every veteran that suffered through it will simply say, "Because it is." and vehemently defend that it should be that way, blindly and without reason. But every new person wonders, looks at and 90% of them will leave Eve for in the end. "Why does it take so LOOOOOOOOOOOOONG?!?!?!" to train, travel, whatever.

ISD Etetia ISD STAR 54	Posted - 2012.06.28 19:38:00 - [16] - Quote I never get tired of people asking: "What is ISD?" / "Who are you?" But that's mainly because I find myself to be a very interesting topic of conversation I really like all of the rookie questions posted above, but what I'd find much more interesting is the answer to the questions: What IS the best ship? Where DO you find the best PVP? etc. These questions are, like EVE Online, extremely complex, and therefore not that easy to reply to. (No, Drake isn't a valid answer) The only stupid questions, are the ones you already know the answer to ISD Etetia Commander ISD STAR

Sin Pew Dakini Rising The Kali Cartel 79	Posted - 2012.06.28 19:47:00 - [17] - Quote ISD Etetia wrote: I never get tired of people asking: "What is ISD?" / "Who are you?" But that's mainly because I find myself to be a very interesting topic of conversation I really like all of the rookie questions posted above, but what I'd find much more interesting is the answer to the questions: What IS the best ship? Where DO you find the best PVP? etc. These questions are, like EVE Online, extremely complex, and therefore not that easy to reply to. (No, Drake isn't a valid answer) The only stupid questions, are the ones you already know the answer to A friend once said "No such thing as a "dumb question" merely truly stupid and lazy folks asking other folks to think for them. "- You want a sandwich, Bacon?" Support horizontal scrollbars in Eve! Click here, tyvm.
mxzf Shovel Bros 1842	Posted - 2012.06.28 19:49:00 - [18] - Quote CCP Phantom wrote: I like them ALL! On a more serious note, those questions show also how we can improve our game and where lack of information can easily lead to frustration and even quitting EVE before having seen any of the wonderful New Eden universe and its inhabitants. If you're looking to help newbies understand stuff better, please include meta levels in the tutorials. Every time I try to explain them to someone, I start off with "Oh boy, here we go". They're just so blatantly simple and obvious to any vet, but it's such a tough concept to explain to newbies. The thing is that it's not a straight-forward "look for a 'meta' attribute and get the highest number you can", there's a lot of situations where meta4 is better than T2 (easier to fit, lower skill reqs), but some T2 is far and above better than meta4 (weapons in general), and some meta4 is strictly better than T2 (armor plates), and then there are those grey area situations like MWDs and ABs where you have to balance the bonuses (like speed and cap penalties) and drawbacks (such as cap use/cycle) of the different items. Not to mention the fact that newbies will generally want meta 2-3 guns and such, due to costs. And I don't even try to explain faction/DED/Officer gear, I just end up leaving it at 'meta6+ is better, but it's outside of your price range for now". A portion of the NPE that covers meta levels would be very nice. (Though I can't imagine that the devs enjoy trying to explain it any more than I do, lol).

ISD Etetia ISD STAR 54	Posted - 2012.06.28 20:16:00 - [19] - Quote Sin Pew wrote: A friend once said "No such thing as a "dumb question" merely truly stupid and lazy folks asking other folks to think for them. I disagree with your friend. I find the ability to communicate, and exchange thoughts and ideas to be our strongest powers as humans. As CCP Phantom mentioned ealier, even the questions that seems the easiest to answer, helps us improve the game. When we time, and time again, see questions in help channels and forums about tasks that should be easy to complete, we will report it to the NPE (New Player Experience) team, who will then work on improving the tutorials, the interface, etc., to make it more user friendly. On another note, I've decided what my favorite rookie question is: "Can I ask a question?" ISD Etetia Commander ISD STAR

Lyric Lahnder Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group 68	Posted - 2012.06.28 20:26:00 - [20] - Quote Not the question i get excited to answer but my favorite question asked so far: "I just paid for an account for eve do I automatically get a Dust 514 beta key?" Noir. and Noir Academy are recruiting apply at www.noirmercs.comI Noir Academy: 60 days old must be able to fly at least one tech II frigate. I Noir. Recruits: 4:1 k/d ratio and can fly tech II cruisers.
J'Poll Pioneer's of the Galantic Wars Ethereal Dawn 309	Posted - 2012.06.28 20:54:00 - [21] - Quote Ano Regni wrote: You were all newbs before and asked those very same questions, so shuuush!! It's not taking a **** out of people's questions. They are all valid and yes likely we had the same. I like the idea of thread like this, shows new players what kind of questions are actually asked. Might even convince them to ask theirs. As said: It's called your favorite noob question. Not, the dumbest noob question you've seen. Inject your skillbook before you leave the station. Neo didnGÇÖt learn Kung-Fu by having it sit in his usb drive.-á If it moves, shoot it. If it doesn't move, poke it with your gun and then shoot it. We are not running, we are advancing in the opposite direction
Ano Regni The Southern Gentleman's Social Club Back To Earth 5	Posted - 2012.06.28 20:56:00 - [22] - Quote I think part of the problem with Newbs asking questions is the tutorials. For example, the mining tutorial I believe is what ? 64 pages long? And multiply that by the number of other tutorials out there, a newb would spend all their time reading a 1,000 pages of tutorials just to figure out how to play the game. I even read a tutorial that had an introductory story to illustrate a scenario, really? Do we need an intro story to the tutorial? So, if I had a choice to read a 64 page tutorial just to find the 5 pages of relevant info that answers my question, or post a "what ship can I useGÇª?" question on the newb forum for more veteran players to answer in a 1 paragraph reply, which one do I choose ? Solution: I wouldn't mind seeing the fluff cut out of the tutorials, making them get right to the point and answer the questions. I don't need an entire paragraph of fluff just to tell me the 1 pertinent sentence I need out of it, just give me that sentence. It would probably reduce the amount of reading material significantly I would imagine. And sometimes newbs are afraid to ask a question, like what in the world is a "Carebear" and why do I see that thrown around? Can you imagine the replies off that one alone The best thing about a boolean is even if you are wrong, you are only off by a bit.
J'Poll Pioneer's of the Galantic Wars Ethereal Dawn 309	Posted - 2012.06.28 20:57:00 - [23] - Quote ISD Etetia wrote: The only stupid questions, are the ones you already know the answer to NO Etetia. The only stupid question, is the question you didn't ask. Period. If you have a question, ask it. People will answer it (though sometimes you might not like the answer you get). Don't ask and your question will never be answered and you remain clueless. Inject your skillbook before you leave the station. Neo didnGÇÖt learn Kung-Fu by having it sit in his usb drive.-á If it moves, shoot it. If it doesn't move, poke it with your gun and then shoot it. We are not running, we are advancing in the opposite direction
J'Poll Pioneer's of the Galantic Wars Ethereal Dawn 309	Posted - 2012.06.28 21:00:00 - [24] - Quote Ano Regni wrote: And sometimes newbs are afraid to ask a question, like what in the world is a "Carebear" and why do I see that thrown around? Can you imagine the replies off that one alone My answer would be: Carebear = someone who totally tries to negate all PvP and does like to make ISK and do stuff that doesn't involve blowing others up. Some people hate carebear, some don't care about them being around. Those that hate do forget that the industry players (the typical carebears) are the ones that supply their ships and most carebear-bashers do have a carebear alt to make their money. Play EVE the way you want to, be it Carebear or something with teeth, it's up to you Inject your skillbook before you leave the station. Neo didnGÇÖt learn Kung-Fu by having it sit in his usb drive.-á If it moves, shoot it. If it doesn't move, poke it with your gun and then shoot it. We are not running, we are advancing in the opposite direction
J'Poll Pioneer's of the Galantic Wars Ethereal Dawn 309	Posted - 2012.06.28 21:05:00 - [25] - Quote ISD Etetia wrote: Sin Pew wrote: A friend once said "No such thing as a "dumb question" merely truly stupid and lazy folks asking other folks to think for them. I disagree with your friend. I find the ability to communicate, and exchange thoughts and ideas to be our strongest powers as humans. As CCP Phantom mentioned ealier, even the questions that seems the easiest to answer, helps us improve the game. When we time, and time again, see questions in help channels and forums about tasks that should be easy to complete, we will report it to the NPE (New Player Experience) team, who will then work on improving the tutorials, the interface, etc., to make it more user friendly. On another note, I've decided what my favorite rookie question is: "Can I ask a question?" I've seen a better on in Help channel a while back. Help channel blinked. Loaded help channel to see if I could help. Person asked: "Where can I get some help with questions?" Took me 5 min to stop laughing. Inject your skillbook before you leave the station. Neo didnGÇÖt learn Kung-Fu by having it sit in his usb drive.-á If it moves, shoot it. If it doesn't move, poke it with your gun and then shoot it. We are not running, we are advancing in the opposite direction
Lost Greybeard Fenrir's Dogs of War Union 0f Revolution 90	Posted - 2012.06.28 21:14:00 - [26] - Quote mxzf wrote: If you're looking to help newbies understand stuff better, please include meta levels in the tutorials. Every time I try to explain them to someone, I start off with "Oh boy, here we go". They're just so blatantly simple and obvious to any vet, but it's such a tough concept to explain to newbies. I usually explain them this way: 1. There are generally only two or three types of a given module. Look for the modules labeled "(whatever module name) II" to see exactly how many and what the basic differences are. 2. Each of the general module types has 2 to 3 variables that slide up and down, usually at the cost of a penalty to another variable. The meta level increases the advantage of the variables being changed, and generally also increases the cost. For instance, most gun turrets increase the damage multiplier as the m-level goes up, at the cost of the power grid needed also going up. 3. Here is the compare tool. Here is how to get it to show you every module of a given sub-type automatically. Have fun. That help at all? (Though I'm with you on the "adding the compare tool to the tutorial" thing, that would be a good thing for rookie players to learn early.)
Linna Excel Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 55	Posted - 2012.06.28 22:34:00 - [27] - Quote How does scanning work? The purpose of hi sec isn't to eliminate PvP but to weed out the dumb pvpers. My Blog-á (feedback welcome)
TEABO BAGGINS Republic University Minmatar Republic 3	Posted - 2012.06.28 23:04:00 - [28] - Quote can i shoot this guy flashing red that stole my loot from my mission?
ShahFluffers Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance 776	Posted - 2012.06.28 23:08:00 - [29] - Quote My favorite question: "I just got blown up! How do I turn off the PvP flag???" Me: "You can't." Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective.
TEABO BAGGINS Republic University Minmatar Republic 3	Posted - 2012.06.29 00:11:00 - [30] - Quote who can i batphone to hot drop off some supercaps?
Mara Rinn Cosmic Industrial Complex Cosmic Consortium 1578	Posted - 2012.06.29 00:43:00 - [31] - Quote "How do I move this PLEX to Jita?" Day 0 advice for new players: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=77176
Homo Jesus The LGBT Last Supper 24	Posted - 2012.06.29 01:18:00 - [32] - Quote How did you find me? Why did you kill me? <--- this one usually comes with some interesting discussions about my manhood and sexual organs going in dark smelly places.
Majuan Shuo SKULLDOGS 39	Posted - 2012.06.29 03:35:00 - [33] - Quote i remember my first noob question: "why cant this ship fit ******* lasers..?" (it was a drake) "I believe the Winter expansion needs to be a huge success, and so they are giving us ice cream, and cake, and ice cream cake, and pizza, and hookers, and blow, and pizza. Any and everything they think players want and they can do by winter, they will stuff into this expansion."
Petrus Blackshell Rifterlings Damu'Khonde 1340	Posted - 2012.06.29 03:38:00 - [34] - Quote J'Poll wrote: ISD Etetia wrote: The only stupid questions, are the ones you already know the answer to NO Etetia. J'Poll laying down the rules, man. Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers (all races, not just Rifters!). US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. Free fitted frigates for members!
Praxis Ginimic Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2012.06.29 05:48:00 - [35] - Quote Lost Greybeard wrote: [quote=mxzf] 3. Here is the compare tool. Here is how to get it to show you every module of a given sub-type automatically. Have fun. That help at all? (Though I'm with you on the "adding the compare tool to the tutorial" thing, that would be a good thing for rookie players to learn early.) As a rookie who JUST found the compare function I agree...I still don't quite get the meta thing but I agree Also, I've asked most of those q's
Sin Pew Dakini Rising The Kali Cartel 79	Posted - 2012.06.29 07:34:00 - [36] - Quote On a serious note, the first newb question I asked was during one of the industry tutorial. I was supposed to build cap boosters and needed zydrine for the batch. I looked up on google to find what asteroids had some and ended up asking if I could find Crokite or Dark Ochre in .5 or .6 systems. Been told to buy it off of the market, but I was disappointed, had done my homeworks, figured what asteroids I needed to mine to find Zyd, but ended up being just that easy... "- You want a sandwich, Bacon?" Support horizontal scrollbars in Eve! Click here, tyvm.
Nerath Naaris Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy 117	Posted - 2012.06.29 11:19:00 - [37] - Quote "Has Hulkageddon started/ended/still running yet?" That question is always followed by a hilarious "Miners are dirt and deserve to die anyway!" vs. "Without us, you wouldn-¦t have any ships to fly!" argument. Forum-unbanned since 2011.10.20.
Itis Zhellin Vampires of Transilvania 9	Posted - 2012.06.29 14:25:00 - [38] - Quote My first question in the rookie chat was this: how the hell I get out of my room?! the door is bugged and wont open :S Not sure if this is funny or sad....
Gaellia Bonaventure Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 96	Posted - 2012.06.29 14:37:00 - [39] - Quote "Where's my homestone?" Bring your possibles.
Silenius Kyran Midwest Mining and Exploration 0	Posted - 2012.06.29 17:54:00 - [40] - Quote A new player in a Velator came up to me while I was visiting Couster (for old times sake) and asked me, "Where can I buy a Titan? I wanna make it my highsec pirate ship." I had no idea where to start. I remember when I started, the first thing I wanted was my own fleet of Leviathans and Avatars. Now I look back and feel like slapping myself. I'm perfectly content with my battlecruiser.
Tau Cabalander Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs 798	Posted - 2012.06.30 08:31:00 - [41] - Quote Kalea Hashur wrote: Perhaps this thread would be more helpful to new citizens if everyone explained / answered the question that they're suggesting. Old vets can sit around and point and laugh, but the new folks are thinking "hey... that was a valid question... what's wrong with it?" If you hang-out in this forum you will realize that I'm one of the regulars that tries to be helpful regardless of the question asked. I even invite people to EVE-mail me questions if they prefer not to post on the forums. So your wish is my command: Tau Cabalander wrote: So many to choose from. For example: "What skill reduces the distance you land from a gate?" What do I need to learn to warp closer to gates?
Praxis Ginimic Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2012.07.01 18:52:00 - [42] - Quote This one...lol... https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=127532&find=unread
J'Poll Pioneer's of the Galantic Wars Ethereal Dawn 318	Posted - 2012.07.01 19:02:00 - [43] - Quote Praxis Ginimic wrote: This one...lol... https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=127532&find=unread Would have expected you posted this one Maybe the NPE team should take a look at the most used questions here and post them + answers in a sticky. Inject your skillbook before you leave the station. Neo didnGÇÖt learn Kung-Fu by having it sit in his usb drive.-á If it moves, shoot it. If it doesn't move, poke it with your gun and then shoot it. We are not running, we are advancing in the opposite direction
Salpad Carebears with Attitude 39	Posted - 2012.07.01 19:14:00 - [44] - Quote Moonlit Raid wrote: What question gives you butterflies in your tummy when you get asked by a rookie. I'll start: "What's the best ship?" What should I train? I like it because it's reasonably answerable, and so gives me a chance to give the noob the impression that I'm an expert on all things EVE.
Ogi Talvanen Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore 112	Posted - 2012.07.01 22:09:00 - [45] - Quote "How do i sort out the auth? What is jabber? I cant set up goon mumble help!" Null newbies have a different experience i guess.
Coral Theisman Exploding Squirrels 0	Posted - 2012.07.02 05:57:00 - [46] - Quote Ogi Talvanen wrote: "How do i sort out the auth? What is jabber? I cant set up goon mumble help!" Null newbies have a different experience i guess. 1/10
Ogi Talvanen Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore 112	Posted - 2012.07.02 11:57:00 - [47] - Quote Your point in this thread was? You have experience with newbies in null?

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