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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.02.16 21:30:00 -
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Originally by: Irida Mershkov
Originally by: Neyro7830 I'm detecting many disarmed nannystate citizens in this thread.
This is where I get my ammo OP
Good site, ships straight to your door.
I've detected an armed state living in fear.
Heh the only people who should fear an armed state are the violent criminals and the dictator wannabes in the government.
Now as far as my right to own projectile weapons is concerned I'm a simple man when it comes to ammo for my guns. Remington UMC .223 55gr. FMJ for my mini-14 in home defense loadout and when hunting season opens I stick a clip of Winchester Supreme Ballistic Silvertip .223 Remington 55gr. into it with my nice night vision hunting scope mounted on top for those midnight deer hunts. The pistol is for very close range put down power so I use 45 Auto (ACP) 230 gr +P JHP Corbon Ammo in it for mercy killing a wounded deer that I sniped with the rifle but didn't outright kill. I imagine the same ammo will be moar than adaquate for putting down a home invader or a last ditch bid for life if the zombie apocalypse hoards break through the final defenses. 
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu The only thing separating us from frightened, feral monkeys is running water on tap, fuel in the tank, and current in our wall sockets.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.02.17 02:55:00 -
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Originally by: Irida Mershkov Or other nations.
WTB: Intercontinental ballistic rifle rounds! Phear my city killing mini-14 of DOOM! 
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu The only thing separating us from frightened, feral monkeys is running water on tap, fuel in the tank, and current in our wall sockets.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.02.17 05:07:00 -
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Originally by: Bellum Eternus I have to say, I'm always tickled at the overwhelming outpouring of negativity towards firearms by those who play this game.
Its not really much different than the ships and modual whingers who can't afford a dramiel and/or got pwnd by one. Simple epeen envy as your large gun and obvious knowledge intimidates them. ffs Irida thinks I am a threat to another country because I own a semi-automatic assault rifle. Wtf am I going to do, invade? Somehow I think airport security might have some issues with that. 
Hrmm thinking about it **** why not. We obviously aggressive and guncrazy americans can all hop into some 4x4s with monster truck tires and float across the atlantic in an epic invasion fleet to pilfer ur beer and womenzez. 
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu The only thing separating us from frightened, feral monkeys is running water on tap, fuel in the tank, and current in our wall sockets.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.02.17 17:25:00 -
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Another oft overlooked fact of the US prison system is that a fairly good percentage of prisoners are criminal immigrants that other countries dumped on us when we had that disasterous open door policy after WW2. ffs Cuba emptied out its own prisons and mental wards and sent them all over here not to mention various other south american countries that did similar stunts then laughed as their former criminals went right to work undermining our social systems. I am glad they are all rotting in jail regardless if the inmate is some waste of dna from cuba or a waste of homegrown dna as it keeps my streets nice and safe overall. My question to you then Irida is why do your countries let its criminals run free? Just as an example look at Brazil's place on your list. Wow they must be a really crime free and peacful country with such a low instance of incarceration. Bet its all sunshine and rainbows there as a result. 
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu The only thing separating us from frightened, feral monkeys is running water on tap, fuel in the tank, and current in our wall sockets.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.02.17 17:31:00 -
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Then what in blazes is your point?
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu The only thing separating us from frightened, feral monkeys is running water on tap, fuel in the tank, and current in our wall sockets.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.02.17 17:52:00 -
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Well then here is a relevation on the american mind set on gunz just for you. Do you really think we buy them because we think in our wildest dreams that some crazy home invader is going to crash through out door and savage our family? Well Bellum might actually dream that so he can shoot them but for most everyone else its all 100% pure epeen. America is like one of the safest countries in the world to live in despite all the fearmongering you see on our thouroughly corpratized mass media outlets. It's simply that my guns look cooler out hunting or on the range than the other guys wimpy wooden stock rifle that looks like it belonged to their great great great grandpa Wild Willy Pecos of the Badlands.
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu The only thing separating us from frightened, feral monkeys is running water on tap, fuel in the tank, and current in our wall sockets.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.02.17 18:46:00 -
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Originally by: Irida Mershkov Quite a few do, but of course I'm not judging everyone. I don't think legalizing guns, or rather having them available is a bad thing, I just think America handles them in a bad manner. For example, it is legal to own some weapons in Britain, provided you go through the neccesary(?) checks, and in the event of you being denied, that's it, granted I think that's too strict for the ideal system, but I believe Americas system of owning firearms is far too lenient. Weaponry in general is pretty bloody interesting from a design and engineering point of view and it's something I'm interested in, but the mental imagery involved makes this more or less impossible unfortunately.
You have the same checks in america. Any serious crimes ban you from legaly owing even a basic target plinking .22lr rifle let alone a semi-automatic military grade assault rifle with all the bells and whistles. Hell if I wanted I could even get a full automatic liscense but thats just overkill on ammo consumption anyways. Aimed shots > spray 'n pray.
Originally by: Irida Mershkov Besides, our glorious old 1853 Enfields are infinitely superior to your insignificant American plastic toys.
Gunny Ermey disagrees with your assertations. HOORAH! And my plastic toy can put all 20 rounds center mass at 1000 yards. At night. 
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu The only thing separating us from frightened, feral monkeys is running water on tap, fuel in the tank, and current in our wall sockets.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.02.17 19:16:00 -
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Originally by: Verone
I'll stick with living in a place that has a low enough crime rate that I don't require a firearm to protect myself and my property.
Good thing I live in a country that has a lulz low violent crime rate so gun ownership is more a way of life than a requirement for safe day to day living. Besides I like the passive bonuses an armed state gives with the natural check on the goventments grossly outnumbered official forces vs its desire to gain tighter and tighter control of the general populace. Beware my global citizens that what is happening in britain can come a knocking on your door too and if you are not armed then there is litereally nothing you can do if your government decides to stomp on your liberties. Protestiong isn't very effective if the oppressors know they have all the guns. Just ask the average brazillian on the street. Do you really beleive that country would have slid so completely and so quickly into a murderous military dictatorship if the general populace was armed? Think people. Think. For gods sake think before it happens to you next.
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu The only thing separating us from frightened, feral monkeys is running water on tap, fuel in the tank, and current in our wall sockets.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.02.17 21:14:00 -
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Edited by: Zeba on 17/02/2010 21:26:15
Originally by: Fumitsugu ed. Zeba scared me. Dusting off my old FAMAS, digging out my fatigues, and heading to the hills. I will protect my civil liberties! 
Pffft. Guns to protect our civil libertys.. We in america don't need no stinkin' guns to protect our civil libertys when we have snowballs.
edit: But seriously if worst comes to worst you will be a happy man if a sitution arises that needs those safely tucked away fatigues and your old FAMAS. 
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu The only thing separating us from frightened, feral monkeys is running water on tap, fuel in the tank, and current in our wall sockets.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.02.18 02:18:00 -
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Originally by: Kijo Rikki I very rarely hear about the guy who shot an invader in his home, but I hear almost on a weekly basis if not darned near daily the guy who turned his gun on his spouse. 
This is where the majority of violent crime in america is at. Ask any policeman and he will tell you that most of his calls are to homes with two people who simply cannot get along be it the spouse or a next door neighbor. The movies and tv shows that portray all the random gun violence are just that: Shows. The odds of some random person invading your home or place of work and shooting you are faaaar less than getting bonked in the head with a meteor or struck by lightning. Hell I think the main killer in america by several orders of magnitude is still old fashioned heart attacks and cancer with drunken driving coming in a close third and not violent gun crime.
Originally by: Fumitsugu I thought guns were there to reduce crime? Word your responses as prettily as you will, there is no escaping the simple, positive, relationship between the number of murders in the US and the number of guns lying around there.
And if guns were banned they would stab each other or if knives were banned they would beat each other to death with a bat or if bats were banned they would strangle each other. So should we cut off all our hands then as that always seems to be the common instrument in all killings. Oh wait you can still bite someone on the jugular and kill them so no moar teeth either. Moral? If someone is angry enough to kill they will always find a way.
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu The only thing separating us from frightened, feral monkeys is running water on tap, fuel in the tank, and current in our wall sockets.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.02.18 02:57:00 -
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Originally by: Alchemist Zemont So let me get this correct, owning a gun is legal and fine but smoking pot is 'bad' and illegal epic logic
For the vast majority of people a smoking gun means that dastardly target ring at the end of the range is dead. Stupid ebil target rings must die.. Smoking pot however means that some brain cells in that big squishy grey mass at the end of your medulla oblongata are dead and don't even get me started on the number of lives which are ruined by excessive drug use. So which would you outlaw?
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu The only thing separating us from frightened, feral monkeys is running water on tap, fuel in the tank, and current in our wall sockets.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.02.18 03:04:00 -
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Originally by: Pyrhus Taavi
Originally by: Zeba For the vast majority of people a smoking gun means that dastardly target ring at the end of the range is dead. Stupid ebil target rings must die.. Smoking pot however means that some brain cells in that big squishy grey mass at the end of your medulla oblongata are dead and don't even get me started on the number of lives which are ruined by excessive drug use. So which would you outlaw?
The small minority of people who use guns to kill are still more deadly than pot.
Statistically? Not Even Close.. Pot is the cause of moar fatal accidents due to hindered reaction times and situational awareness in this country that all gun crime combined. So you want to go on a crusade to save life in numbers that actually mean something? Try to get cigarettes banned. 
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu The only thing separating us from frightened, feral monkeys is running water on tap, fuel in the tank, and current in our wall sockets.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.02.18 03:18:00 -
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Originally by: Bellum Eternus Personally, I think that pot should be legal. It's no worse than cigs or beer. It's not ******.
In moderation sure but alas most people don't have the willpower to just stop at a mild buzz and instead go all out binge. 
Originally by: Bellum Eternus I just tried some Corbon DPX today and it worked out great. Dropped a 98 pound Javelina with two rounds to the chest. About 12" penetration and both bullets retained about 98% of their weight. Range was about 15 yards. You never know what you'll run into when you're out hiking.
Awesome kick ass stuff. I shot a groundhog with my .45 with the +P JHP Corbon round and it was just an awful mess. It looked like it stepped on a mine with all the guts and shattered ribs hanging out. Note to self: Don't use that ammo for small game if you want to save the pelt. 
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu The only thing separating us from frightened, feral monkeys is running water on tap, fuel in the tank, and current in our wall sockets.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.02.18 03:28:00 -
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Edited by: Zeba on 18/02/2010 03:29:31
Originally by: Alchemist Zemont and a person smoking a joint ISNT the same as a person shooting someone.
Unless he is so high he can't drive properly and drifts across a lane into a car full of kids because he is trying to grab the joint he dropped in his lap and was too stoned to realise he needed to pull over to safely retrieve it. This is but one of the many ways even a drug as mild as pot can kill. But hey pot makes you feel good and mellow so you won't feel the need to kill with a gun so it must be all good then. 
also:
Originally by: Alchemist Zemont lulz
Stoned again eh? 
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu The only thing separating us from frightened, feral monkeys is running water on tap, fuel in the tank, and current in our wall sockets.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.02.18 03:44:00 -
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Originally by: Pyrhus Taavi So basically exactly like alcohol?
(except alcohol and pot aren't purchased and used for the express purpose of killing people)
What does alchohol have to do with the comment I quoted? And who cares if drugs or alchohol are not purchased with the sole intention of killing people. That still doesn't make it any less of the mass killer it ends up being. Does it make any difference to the victims family if their loved one died to a copper bullet or a steel car? ffs death by car is waaaaaaaaay more frequent than death by bullet so lets ban cars too! \o/
Originally by: Alchemist Zemont And with that I am of to bed,
Well the good thing is that if you are really stoned you won't remember this thread when you wake up. +1 pot!
Originally by: Pyrhus Taavi
Originally by: Bellum Eternus Most of the javelina/boar in the western US are feral and as such their meat is poisonous to eat. I butchered it to find the bullets but the meat was literally green from the interstitial mucus content. Otherwise I'd have BBQed it. Wild boar tend to be a little stringy however.
Holy ****, you really are a survivalist psychopath.
Do you live in a shack in the woods?
Yes I live in a straw shack with curing pelts on the walls for insulation and only eat what I kill over an open fire on a wooden spit. Trust me the internats was a total ***** to run out to the wilderness. 
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu The only thing separating us from frightened, feral monkeys is running water on tap, fuel in the tank, and current in our wall sockets.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.02.18 04:10:00 -
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Originally by: Bellum Eternus It's like those crazy icelanders over there who don't eat green shark meat (not that the shark meat is green, but that it's from the green shark) because it's acidic and poisonous so they have to ferment it first. That makes them survivalists? Or psychopaths?
Ohh! Oh! this is a trick question!
Yes they are survivalists for having to figure out a way to make the meat of a poisonous shark edible so they could have enough to eat. Yes they are pschopaths because they 'still' eat the stuff even though they have the option of modern food production and its massive selection of oh so good non urine fermented viddles.

Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu The only thing separating us from frightened, feral monkeys is running water on tap, fuel in the tank, and current in our wall sockets.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.02.18 04:20:00 -
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Edited by: Zeba on 18/02/2010 04:23:59
Originally by: Pyrhus Taavi The part that tipped me off was the gun ownership
Oh get over it already..
Originally by: Pyrhus Taavi and hatred of the federal government.
You would start to hate it too with all the crap its tried to pull over the last few decades. Seems everyone including the rest of the world has forgotten this greatest of americans words which are still just as valid for your country whatever it might be as it is for mine.
Originally by: Pyrhus Taavi Also shooting an animal and butchering it to retrive the ammunition.
Yes because its just sooooo adorable when a feral male javelina in a typical hoggish hormonal rage bursts out of a thicket to sink its cute little teeth into your hide. You must be an urban basement dweller mate who thinks that food comes from the grocery store. Its the only explanation.
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu The only thing separating us from frightened, feral monkeys is running water on tap, fuel in the tank, and current in our wall sockets.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.02.18 04:46:00 -
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Originally by: Pyrhus Taavi Food also doesn't come from people killing animals that they know to be inedible.
What in blazes does food have to do with killing a charging animal that could actually kill you if it can get to your throat which after it hamstrings you would not be too far off in the realm of possibilities. Let alone the potential for a lethal massive bacterial infection you could get even if it only 'wounds' you by taking a chunk out of a lower extremity. That he inspected it to see if it was edible was simply making the best of the situation. Pyrhus Taavi: Urban carebear status confirmed.
Originally by: Pyrhus Taavi Outside of feeding yourself, food doesn't come from hunting at all.
No it comes from an industialized system of heartless efficient mass killing where live animals are raised in cramped horrid non natural conditions then when they come of age are sent into a nightmare machine from a horror movie that turns a terrified animal into hamburger or pork chops or some chicken parts for your kfc. That is definitely the way to humanely aquire your food yessireee. Somehow I think the deer and other animals that hunters kill to help keep the general population in check due to lack of natural predators is a much better overall life experiance for them.
Originally by: Pyrhus Taavi But please, continue to try and justify owning a weapon.
I could run off endless valid justifications but really the only one that matters atm is the one I just gave you in the first reply on this post.
Originally by: Pyrhus Taavi Linkage Bellum irl?
LOL!
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu The only thing separating us from frightened, feral monkeys is running water on tap, fuel in the tank, and current in our wall sockets.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.02.18 18:34:00 -
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Originally by: Kijo Rikki
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Pot is the cause of moar fatal accidents
I challenge your assertation by the fact that I find it extremely difficult to even leave the couch once I've gotten borked. 
Well thats just mighty white of you to be consciensious in your drug use by only doing it at home where you can only be a danger to yourself or loved ones. However you are not the guy driving down a road toking on a fatty so your counter assertation is irrelevant. 
Originally by: Bellum Eternus
Originally by: Pyrhus Taavi Food also doesn't come from people killing animals that they know to be inedible.
Outside of feeding yourself, food doesn't come from hunting at all. But please, continue to try and justify owning a weapon.
http://www.examiner.com/x-5619-Atlanta-Gun-Rights-Examiner~y2010m2d18-Open-carry-deters-armed-robbery-in-Kennesaw
Awesome.
People seem to forget that not every part of america is like the sterile urban carebearland of the subdivision way of life. Granted there are not too many wild west like places left but the ones that are still around can be pretty dangerous.
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu The only thing separating us from frightened, feral monkeys is running water on tap, fuel in the tank, and current in our wall sockets.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.02.19 00:16:00 -
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Originally by: Pyrhus Taavi
Originally by: Lai Nat And then all the law abiding citizens would be unarmed, and the criminals would still have their weapons.
Like every other civilized country on the planet?
The cognitive dissonance you display is astounding.
So riddle me this then batman. If you are saying that law abiding citizens with guns do not have any effect on gun death because its the criminals who are doing the shooting then why is it such an issue if a law abiding citizen owns a gun? So what possible positive gain could be had by denying said law abiding citizen from some measure of self defence?
The cognitive dissonance you display is astounding. 
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu The only thing separating us from frightened, feral monkeys is running water on tap, fuel in the tank, and current in our wall sockets.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.02.19 00:35:00 -
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Originally by: Pyrhus Taavi Are you saying that you fellate large Puerto Ricans every night?
Eww of course not and quit projecting your personal fantasys on innocent forum residents please. 
Quote: Murders per capita:
# 24 United States: 0.042802 per 1,000 people, 65% of homicides committed with firearms
# 40 France: 0.0173272 per 1,000 people
# 46 United Kingdom: 0.0140633 per 1,000 people, 8% of homicides committed with firearms
Please, refute the numbers instead of making strawmen. Homicides all committed by criminals mostly on other criminals or in the rare cases of fatal domestic violence. So I'm still not seeing the connection to armed law abiding citizens or how those gun homicide numbers could be reduced by takeing guns away from people who never shoot them in acts of personal violence. Remember you said you can't confiscate the criminals guns because they are criminals and don't register their firearms with the authorities. So put down the blunt mate its causing your neurons to missfire and for gods sake don't leave your basement in that condition. 
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu The only thing separating us from frightened, feral monkeys is running water on tap, fuel in the tank, and current in our wall sockets.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.02.19 01:01:00 -
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Originally by: Pyrhus Taavi Then why the enormous discrepancy?
Why, in a country with more guns, are there more gun crimes?
Because we have a much higher base population with a mish mash of different immigrant races who don't always get along even with each other and a border that has moar holes than your head that lets in lots of immigrant criminals who have no issues popping a cap in the competition. Call me back when legitimate gun owners who do not contribute to those stats actually start contributing to those stats. What you are doing is confusing a rather bad social issue of our moar robust criminal element with illegal guns with the non issue of our peaceful and law abiding citizens who legaly own guns. So again please spell out how banning honest citizens from owning guns will change that number to a lower number. 
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu The only thing separating us from frightened, feral monkeys is running water on tap, fuel in the tank, and current in our wall sockets.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.02.19 01:22:00 -
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Edited by: Zeba on 19/02/2010 01:23:20
Originally by: Pyrhus Taavi Edited by: Pyrhus Taavi on 19/02/2010 01:13:12 Canada also has a mishmash of different races, and a more lax border than America. In fact, I've heard Britain has some of those violent brown people as well.
By your logic, Canada should be an absolute slaughterhouse (it's not).
I said its a social issue. Does one countrys social issues mean all of them have to have it because they share certain generic immigrant and border problems that all countries face? Also Canada mostly borders polar bears and loner mid western guncrazy types who don't stray far from home. Plus Canada never had the disasterous open door policy the US had after WW2 that still echos with violence to this day from everyone dumping their violent criminals and insane ward patients on us. The US on the other hand has this godawful open border with mexico that lets in all the ultra violent drug dealers from south america into its citys. The worst ultra violent border crossers Canada has to suffer is drunken americans at a hockey game. Which is an entierly different social issue. So keep poasting mate so I can keep rolling over you as this is kinda fun. 
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu The only thing separating us from frightened, feral monkeys is running water on tap, fuel in the tank, and current in our wall sockets.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.02.19 01:31:00 -
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Originally by: Pyrhus Taavi
Originally by: Zeba Plus Canada never had the disasterous open door policy the US had after WW2 that still echos with violence to this day.
I'm sorry, I think you just said that Canada didn't have open door immigration after WW2.
I said the disasterous open door policy. Noone had any issues with Canada at that time or even now as far as I know but lots of people had much beef with the US so they sent all their human refuse to our shores not Canada's. And I am still waiting for your explanation on how taking away an honest citizens gun will reduce illegal gun crime. So keep poastin. 
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu The only thing separating us from frightened, feral monkeys is running water on tap, fuel in the tank, and current in our wall sockets.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.02.19 01:36:00 -
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Originally by: Pyrhus Taavi
Originally by: Achbar Noir The privledged few are really scared of me and the millions like me in my country.
The "privilidged few" keep you so terrified of each other that you feel the need to carry guns in public.
Now ur just trollin.. 
Oh wait a sec. Bellum? Is that you? 
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu The only thing separating us from frightened, feral monkeys is running water on tap, fuel in the tank, and current in our wall sockets.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.02.19 02:13:00 -
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Edited by: Zeba on 19/02/2010 02:15:30
Originally by: Pyrhus Taavi So point 1: easier access to guns correlates to more gun crime.
This is a fair point and the reason we have such stringent gun control laws by our standards. But the problem is that even if you shut down all the arms makers they would just skip across the border to mexico and then be able to supply the ultra violent criminals directly to stay in business. The only reason we have so many arms makers located domestically is because we have so many gun owners so the profits are better to base in america. So the net effect would be the criminals would still have access to guns due to how easy it is to get stuff across the border and honest citizens would no longer have a defence if the worst happend. Great solution you have there. You should immigrate and run for office. 
Originally by: Pyrhus Taavi If legitimate gun ownership is an effective and reasonable means of self-defense, why isn't the murder and gun crime rate in America lower?
Because of all the other issues unique to this country that have not a thing to do with guns that I sketched out in one of my replys above that you ignored and simply went context whoor on me by picking out an irrelevant bit and ad hominem attacked. So if by some miracle god banished every pistol and rifle in america the very same people would just start using bats and chains and knives to kill each other giving us the exact same death rate by homicide only with "Bowie Knife" as the main cause of death. OMG ban Bowie Knives.   
Also you keep convieninently forgetting the massive amount of crime an armed america prevents. Without an armed general citizenry the numbers would be even worse though tbh I think you are misreading the actual impact on daily life in the US those numbers actually convey. I'm well into my middle age and have yet to see any violence personally ever. Noone I have ever known has ever personally seen these fatal shootouts that by your tone seem to be a daily occourance we all have to watch out for. So even though we might have twice the rate of another country that rate is so low that it has almost zero effect on your daily life as the average citizen will never be a victim of violent gun crime and only ever see it on the news. So yet again please explain how taking away the gun rights of honest citizens will drop the murder rate.
You fail sir. But I 07 your trolling abilities. So keep poasting. 
Originally by: Bellum Eternus Ohh... OUCH Zeba! Ouch! LOL!
I've witnessed your work before.. Just had a familiar ring to it was all and I did finger arvald too so nyah. 
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu The only thing separating us from frightened, feral monkeys is running water on tap, fuel in the tank, and current in our wall sockets.
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Zeba
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Posted - 2010.02.19 03:08:00 -
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Originally by: Pyrhus Taavi THIS IS STATISTICALLY FALSE
Orly? Well in that case, THIS IS.. AMERICA! Prove it conclusively with hard facts and numbers from legitimate sources. Otherwise admit its just your foreign never 'actualy been to america for longer than it took to hop on the connecting flight to the bahamas' personal opinion which like all personal foreign national opinions mean nothing to me.
Originally by: Pyrhus Taavi The same way it has in most civilized nations!
You have been confronted with evidence that more guns correlates to more gun crime, and that an armed populace does not mitigate crime. Your only refutation is that "America is unique" and "it's all the immigrants fault".
Well the hard truth is that for america it is. Most other countries in the world are of a mostly single race even though they still like to divide it up into subclasses to justify killing their fellow man. Like for instance what happened in iraq before and after the first war. They all looked like arabs to me on tv but apparently something about what specific branch of the single religion they all worshiped made some of them 'infidels' to be gassed en mass by its government down to the last man women or helpless child in the vile heathens village. And thats just when you have a near monoculture. In america we have vastly different cultures all living in close proximity the majority of which recently came from a third world country with violence as a daily threat to life like our african and south american immigrants who brought their legacy of using ultra violence to solve problems with them to our moastly civilized shores. Even then the vast majority of them live a peaceful and productive life as they adjust to the easy living in america its just that when violence is what you were raised on and tempers flare its it tends to go right for the head shot.
Originally by: Pyrhus Taavi There is not a :psyduck: big enough.
For me? Absolutely not as I stay informed about what goes on around me without injecting personal bias into the analysis of the gathered information. However you seem to have little resistance. Sorry about that mate. 
Originally by: Pyrhus Taavi edit: **** it. It's good enough for me that I don't live in fear of my fellow citizens. Enjoy your self-imposed police state.
Much like most players don't get the goons most countries don't get america. We Don't Really Care About What YOU Think. You look at stats and lists and make judgment calls about 'whoa look at that we are sooooo much better moraly than them because even though we still have violent murderers stalking the land the fact that they are forced to use knives and bats makes us superiour so take that you barbaric yankees'. Otoh when a non american makes his opinion about america known all we see is another chump falling for the same crap chumps always fall for and then saying it tastes great too. There is no police state in america. There is no rampant violent crime that has our citizens cowering in fear. There is nothing but sunny days and fun for all except the the very small minority of people for whom an honest living is too boring and passe' so they spice it up with a life of crime instead of honest work. I think I know what is the real issue though. America is much like eve in that it is a huge friggin sandbox that you can live pretty much any way you like as long as you don't get caught no matter what side of good or evil you may reside on.. We also have this cultural worship thing about firearms too that seem to frighten and annoy our friends across the pond so I'll leave you with this comment.
Carebears. The lot of you. *
*Disclaimer. If you are a non american reading this poast don't get your knickers in a bind as I realize that the vast majority of you are just normal peace loving folks who like to live like a normal rational person. You were not the target of my poast. 
Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu The only thing separating us from frightened, feral monkeys is running water on tap, fuel in the tank, and current in our wall sockets.
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