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Zonefire
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Posted - 2010.02.20 17:14:00 -
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Edited by: Zonefire on 20/02/2010 17:14:05
Now it just seems that people who don't support this are the people who enjoy war deccing indy corps. The high sec pirate corps are just the ones that fail at low sec/null sec pvp and have to get their anger out on people who can't fight back.
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Zonefire
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Posted - 2010.02.20 21:33:00 -
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 Originally by: 343guilty1
Originally by: Zonefire
Edited by: Zonefire on 20/02/2010 17:14:05
Now it just seems that people who don't support this are the people who enjoy war deccing indy corps. The high sec pirate corps are just the ones that fail at low sec/null sec pvp and have to get their anger out on people who can't fight back.
in most cases, yes, but what about an a-hole corp who keeps can flipping you indy guys in our corp? what then, they just sit there and steal your ores? or what if you just plain out right don't like them cuz they talk smack? OR you got beef with em for a legit reason?
Well eve is rated for people to be at least 13 years old. If you can't handle a little smack talk in local then maybe you need to mature a little. Many people I know just laugh off smack talk and try not to antagonize it. As for constant can flipping I can see that being a legit reason for a war dec, but not random can flipping one in awhile.
What I think would be a good thing would be that each corp has to have a representative after a certain time period when the war is declared. Then both sides would have to explain why or why not they should be able to have a war. The third party would be representing concord(dev). This person would listen to both sides and decide if there is cause for war in high sec.
But of course, EVE devs are lazy and probably wouldn't do this because then they would have to do actual work.
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Zonefire
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Posted - 2010.02.21 17:45:00 -
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*sigh* In order to wardec someone you open up a vote, do a search for the corpname, and hit apply. Done. There's no need for offices.
That is why war needs to be changed, it is to easy to declare war on smaller corps just to get free kills. Now some people say you shouldn't form a corp that can't defend itself. In other words they say they do not want any new corps forming, Since most new corps, unless made by people who started playing early on, are newer people. People just make up excuses why its good to have war so they can take advantage of it. It seems like wars are also to prevent newer people from experiencing the better parts of eve, even in high sec.
Now people will continue to say that war is needed but to be honest, less then 1% of wars is actually needed. So why not just make it harder to make a war. Having a third party representing concord to determine if the war is just.
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Zonefire
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Posted - 2010.02.21 21:50:00 -
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The original purpose of this thread was to propose some way for new high sec, non-combat focus corps to avoid being griefed by people who have RL problems. But for some reason people keep drfting away from the topic.
Maybe besides this problem we can get something passed to ban people who go on rants comletely off topic.
A for an idea to help top USELESS wardecing, not the ons thatare legit, we should have concord(dev) be ahird party nd speak to a representative of both corps/alliances. Then they can explain why they want a war. And reasons can be checked to make sure its true.
PS: If can flipping was a concord offence, no pirates would have ships in high sec.
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Zonefire
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Posted - 2010.02.23 19:05:00 -
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There is an idea, corps would pay for the ability to wardec per system. Each system would cost more then the previous one. This would make wars have a point in high sec to control recources yet make it hard for griefers. Costs could be set that it would be impractical to control more then a handful of high sec.
Only downside is major trade hubs would be constant war systems. (I mean it not like people ever war there.) 
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Zonefire
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Posted - 2010.02.24 15:08:00 -
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There are some good ideas here but it seems a few people who do not want this passed are trolling in order to prevent the more mature people from actually seeing the good ideas.
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Zonefire
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Posted - 2010.02.25 03:54:00 -
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Originally by: Traidor Disloyal
Originally by: Zonefire
The original purpose of this thread was to propose some way for new high sec, non-combat focus corps to avoid being griefed by people who have RL problems. But for some reason people keep drfting away from the topic.
So does that mean it's OK for those of us who do not have RL problems to grief, I mean war dec, new high sec, non-combat focus corps?
Well by griefing you prove you have RL problems. Instead focus on the good ideas people have with wars being system base.
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Zonefire
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Posted - 2010.02.26 03:01:00 -
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Exactly, people are paying real money in order to play a game. By allowing corps to grief newer players in high sec, such as station camping, people are paying money to not play the game. Now CCP could give money back to players who cant do anything during a wardec but they won'.
So making wars system based would be better. That way would be like fighting over recources but war deccing many corps over one system would be unrealilistic so it would be between just a few corps. Of corse you coud pay more for more systems but each one gets more expensive. This way newer people can get out while people who want to pvp can.
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Zonefire
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Posted - 2010.02.26 05:41:00 -
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Originally by: Daemonspirit
Jumpin' Jehosaphat!
JUST DROP CORP!
You and your buddies make up a new corp, and every day a new dec comes in, drop corp to one of your other holding corps. Hell, disband corps and make new ones...
Stop asking for something that already exists in game, and is supported by CCP!
jesus...
This is an example of people who need to be a little more mature. Instead of just instantly dismissing issues, look at it from the other persons side.
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Zonefire
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Posted - 2010.02.27 03:12:00 -
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Originally by: ShahFluffers
Originally by: gwabakk
Less than two days after the third wardec in one month ended, we received another wardec...
How are you getting these wardecs?????? Send them to me!!
But seriously, you're doing something to catch people's ire. You or someone in your corp is probably doing something to draw unnecessary attention (i.e. screaming in local, saying that the people that flipped them are idiots, greifers, and have no life, etc) hence all the war decs.
Another protrip: pods instawarp, you can escape station that way.
Well we got a wardec because a corp run by Holy8th, decided to wardec us. His corp was onyl going after miners and failing at killing a few combat ships without having 5 people on one. But recently an alliance heard about this and wardeced holy8th's corp. His corp got station camped so they stop the war. Then rumor has it he payed a merc corp 700 MIL, to wwardec this tiny little indy corp.
Thats pretty funny and sad at the same time.
Diplomacy does help, but once an indy's money reserves run out, they cant do much in a war dec. Thats why system war decs would be a better solution, so if you dont want to fight you can leave, but consequences you could easily lose your mining sites near your HQ. This would be a great solution but a lot of trollers tend to add a bunch of rants to this thread so a lot of people didn't see the good posts.
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Zonefire
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Posted - 2010.03.01 22:23:00 -
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Originally by: James Tritanius
Originally by: Gaven Darklighter
Yet another thread in dire need of a "check here if you don't support" box
154 replies with only 6 supports. Looks pretty obvious to me.
I'm not supporting this because I like deccing and killing new players.
People like this guy are the reason war deccing needs to be changed.
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Zonefire
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Posted - 2010.05.12 05:05:00 -
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bump
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Zonefire
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Posted - 2010.05.19 03:02:00 -
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Quote:
Don't cry about the lesson being unfair, learn from the lesson and you will grow.
Usually if lessons are unfair you ca get the instructor fired. Can we do that to eve people?
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