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Tanith YarnDemon
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Posted - 2010.02.19 23:28:00 -
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I'm looking for the best ship for recon 3 of 3. I've heard lots of different ships being used, from battleships down to cruisers. The stabber being suggested as a top pick on eve-survival, confidently saying it's the fastest way.
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A stabber will amass about 15k EHP(omnidamage) and run at less than 1200m/s.
A Cynabal will do all of the above, but with more of everything.
A dramiel for example can amass some 14k EHP while doing 3.4km/s.
A hookbill can amass some 20k EHP while doing 1.8km/s.
Right now I'm doing it in a Tengu, which obviously is far from optimal, and need to train to try most of the others. While I'm leaning towards the Dramiel, it's a few skills I honestly just don't want to have trained without reason. I'm just hoping someone else has had the same ambition before and tried things out. Am I lucky?
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Sideromelane
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Posted - 2010.02.20 01:46:00 -
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Edited by: Sideromelane on 20/02/2010 01:47:11
 Originally by: Tanith YarnDemon
I'm looking for the best ship for recon 3 of 3. I've heard lots of different ships being used, from battleships down to cruisers. The stabber being suggested as a top pick on eve-survival, confidently saying it's the fastest way.
Now..
A stabber will amass about 15k EHP(omnidamage) and run at less than 1200m/s.
A Cynabal will do all of the above, but with more of everything.
A dramiel for example can amass some 14k EHP while doing 3.4km/s.
A hookbill can amass some 20k EHP while doing 1.8km/s.
Right now I'm doing it in a Tengu, which obviously is far from optimal, and need to train to try most of the others. While I'm leaning towards the Dramiel, it's a few skills I honestly just don't want to have trained without reason. I'm just hoping someone else has had the same ambition before and tried things out. Am I lucky?
If you can do in a Tengu then I would say just use that. I have done it it a Drake and Raven easily. Also using both passive and active fits on the raven and passive using the drake and got through it no problem. As long as you can take the damage use whatever ship you want.
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Wet Ferret
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Posted - 2010.02.20 06:26:00 -
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Takes about a minute to get to the gate in a tengu with 4 overdrive IIs. You'll spend that much time waiting out session change timers by switching to a different ship. The actual time you save in the mission is meaningless at that point.
That might not tell you which ship is "fastest" for recon 3, but it does tell you which is fastest for you.
edit: and just to remind you, there is still no divider between posts and sigs.
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Sader Rykane
Amarr
Onei Robotics
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Posted - 2010.02.20 07:52:00 -
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Are you really in THAT much of a rush?
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Ran Khanon
Amarr
Vengeance Innovations
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Posted - 2010.02.20 10:28:00 -
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Comfortably laughing off all waves with an AB'd, overdrived, 4 hardener + EANM, armor tanking Abaddon. I am just a few seconds too slow to avoid the last final wave of about 600 damage so that is like 110 seconds or so? No rush. Great moment to fetch some coffee.
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Tanith YarnDemon
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Posted - 2010.02.20 19:24:00 -
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Edited by: Tanith YarnDemon on 20/02/2010 19:24:40
Originally by: Sader Rykane
Are you really in THAT much of a rush?
I am. =(
Originally by: Wet Ferret
Takes about a minute to get to the gate in a tengu with 4 overdrive IIs. You'll spend that much time waiting out session change timers by switching to a different ship. The actual time you save in the mission is meaningless at that point.
That might not tell you which ship is "fastest" for recon 3, but it does tell you which is fastest for you.
I.. can't see the difference. Are you calling me spechul? =(
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Qui Shon
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Posted - 2010.02.20 21:36:00 -
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Originally by: Tanith YarnDemon
Now..
A stabber will amass about 15k EHP(omnidamage) and run at less than 1200m/s.
Eh?
Try 2300m/s without overload with just 1 OD and 1 nano, because you'll have a 100mn ab fitted. Overload first cycle and you'll get to the un-overloaded top speed quick enough, with little or no heat damage. Vaga a bit faster still. Tricky bit it getting the ab switched off and speed down at the right moment so you can align to warp away at the gate.
Now, if you can do it in a 3,4km/s dramiel, then that's gonna be faster of course. Although, can you do it so you have no unrepped damage left when you dock?
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Tanith YarnDemon
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Posted - 2010.02.20 21:57:00 -
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Originally by: Qui Shon
Eh?
Try 2300m/s without overload with just 1 OD and 1 nano, because you'll have a 100mn ab fitted. Overload first cycle and you'll get to the un-overloaded top speed quick enough, with little or no heat damage. Vaga a bit faster still. Tricky bit it getting the ab switched off and speed down at the right moment so you can align to warp away at the gate.
Now, if you can do it in a 3,4km/s dramiel, then that's gonna be faster of course. Although, can you do it so you have no unrepped damage left when you dock?
Ah, like I said that was eve-survivals suggestion of fastest ship, they used a Y-S8 (or 10MN t2)Afterburner. Oversizing could of course be an interesting idea, one I had forgot to consider. Huzzah, mah thread pays off!
A cynabal would of course still be better. And I'd still like to hear from someone who've tried(or would be willing to try a dramiel or some other frigate.
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Dacryphile
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Posted - 2010.02.22 03:33:00 -
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Edited by: Dacryphile on 22/02/2010 03:35:21
I always used the eve survival stabber fit. I have one fitted in each station I mission out of since they are so cheep to fit. I haven't done tried the 100mn fit, but it looks interesting. I just wonder what happens if you miss shutting it off at the right time, or if you get to the gate so fast that doesn't really matter.
One issue I have with your ship claims is that you post the EHP, when you really should be posting the shield amounts. You don't want to spend time or isk repairing your ship post mission, so shield damage is all you want to take.
The following numbers are with all V.
My 10MN II stabber runs a little over 1100m/s, and has 8419 shields. With this fit, I get hit just before I warp out that brings my shields down to about 10%.
EFTing a LiF Fueled stabber gives me 2404 m/s with the 8419 shields. Double the speed, but you have a 30 sec align time while the AB is activated, but the AB only has a 15 sec duration. You might be fine even if you turn the AB off too late.
I could not get a dram to 14,000 EHP. I don't know how you got those numbers.
Rigged with shield extenders, I got 4636 shields and 3096m/s. That is over half the stabber's shields, and 3x the speed. You are going to be paying a lot of money for your little recon 3/3 ship though, although you should use if for recon 2/3 as well.
You may think, "That fine, I'll never lose it" but you don't factor in disconnections. I got DCed a few days ago running recon in my stabber and lost the ship. I petitioned the loss since it was due to DCing, but CCP did not give it back. Not heartbreaking since I didn't spend 90M on the ship. It would have been a different story with a dram.
Originally by: Doc Robertson
...take a good look at this pic and tell us which one is you.
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Marlona Sky
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.02.22 04:32:00 -
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Take the Zepher, it takes no damage from the cloud. 
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AFK Cloaker
Amarr
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2010.02.22 07:20:00 -
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Good shield resists?
Fast?
Slots for shield buffer and overdrive/nano's?
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