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Zoltar88	Posted - 2010.02.20 17:02:00 - [1] Edited by: Zoltar88 on 20/02/2010 17:03:20 Edited by: Zoltar88 on 20/02/2010 17:02:47 Before any one screams noob at me, I am a noob thats why I stick to high-sec. I was minding my own business running a mission in 0.9 space then comes along this tingu and pops my drake and leaves as if it was a 0.1 system, no concord.. nothing. if it can be done this easily what is the point of high sec? if I can be shot in 0.9 I can be shot anywhere. and with eve over-population its getting hard for a noob to star making decent isk....
Jukhta Mein 22nd Black Rise Defensive Unit OWN Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.20 17:04:00 - [2] ting ting tingu
Abrazzar	Posted - 2010.02.20 17:04:00 - [3] Your story is missing the half with the substance. --------
Reem Fairchild Minmatar Punic Corp.	Posted - 2010.02.20 17:05:00 - [4] Originally by: Zoltar88 Before any one screams noob at me, I am a noob thats why I stick to high-sec. I was minding my own business running a mission in 0.9 space then comes along this tingu and pops my drake and leaves as if it was a 0.1 system, no concord.. nothing. seriously if it can be done this easily what is the point of high sec? if I can be shot in 0.9 I can be shot anywhere. and with eve over-population its getting hard for a noob to star making decent isk.... First of all, being a newbie doesn't have to mean you stay in high sec. Secondly, for the issue at hand, you must have done something to make yourself flagged to him so he could legally kill you. It's impossible to know what it was without you telling us more of the story behind this. ----- 'In Eve, as in real life, if you are bored it's your own fault.'
Alchemist's Alt Gallente Hysteria Nexus	Posted - 2010.02.20 17:10:00 - [5] Story doesnt add up, im thinking you looted his can or earlier killed his shuttle in low sec, yup that sounds about right. FIRST!!
Zoltar88	Posted - 2010.02.20 17:12:00 - [6] Originally by: Reem Fairchild First of all, being a newbie doesn't have to mean you stay in high sec. Secondly, for the issue at hand, you must have done something to make yourself flagged to him so he could legally kill you. It's impossible to know what it was without you telling us more of the story behind this. Theres nothing else to it, first he showed up in a Heron and started salvaging wrecks, never shot him or anything, then warps out changes ships and comes back by this time he was flashing red and skull next to him, it was too late to leave at this point. what bothers me isnt losing a ship, it happened in 0.9 sec, I had this silly noobish idea that I cant be shot at in high sec unless someone is suicidal. apparently was
Erialor Godsent Gallente Federal Navy Support Divison	Posted - 2010.02.20 17:15:00 - [7] Flashing read normally implies wartarget if I'm not mistaken. --
Irida Mershkov Gallente Honour Before Death Nominis Expers	Posted - 2010.02.20 17:16:00 - [8] Now, I know you're lying. Pingu can't fly in space!
Mari Seles	Posted - 2010.02.20 17:18:00 - [9] I would agree, something appears to be missing from that story. Did you take loot at the time? Did you start shooting after he showed up red? Anything? Were you actually in lowsec and misread?(ok probably not)
Samantha U	Posted - 2010.02.20 17:20:00 - [10] They logs, they show nothing
Alchemist's Alt Gallente Hysteria Nexus	Posted - 2010.02.20 17:22:00 - [11] CIC is currently not at war No past kills of Zoltar88 that include Sia Alexandria so no kill rights Soooooooooooooooooooooo I am thinking you looted his can thinking it was yours FIRST!!
Naomi Wildfire Amarr Stardust Heavy Industries Majesta Empire	Posted - 2010.02.20 17:24:00 - [12] He came, grabbed your loot, salvaged a bit, you shot at him, he returned and popped you. 10m that this is the full story.
Zoltar88	Posted - 2010.02.20 17:27:00 - [13] the only reasonable explanation is taking his can.. dont remember doing it but I did take a few.
Akita T Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2010.02.20 17:29:00 - [14] Originally by: Zoltar88 Theres nothing else to it, first he showed up in a Heron and started salvaging wrecks, never shot him or anything, then warps out changes ships and comes back by this time he was flashing red and skull next to him, it was too late to leave at this point. He could have looted some of the wrecks, then left one of HIS jetcans with SOME of the loot inside, and YOU picked up HIS jetcan contents without noticing (you probably disabled the steal-from-can warnings) just before he was warping off, so you became flagged to him, he noticed that, came back in a combat ship and blew you up. The only halfway logical explanation. _ Beginner's ISK making guide \| Manufacturer's helper \| All about reacting _
Reem Fairchild Minmatar Punic Corp.	Posted - 2010.02.20 17:29:00 - [15] Originally by: Zoltar88 Originally by: Reem Fairchild First of all, being a newbie doesn't have to mean you stay in high sec. Secondly, for the issue at hand, you must have done something to make yourself flagged to him so he could legally kill you. It's impossible to know what it was without you telling us more of the story behind this. Theres nothing else to it, first he showed up in a Heron and started salvaging wrecks, never shot him or anything, then warps out changes ships and comes back by this time he was flashing red and skull next to him, it was too late to leave at this point. what bothers me isnt losing a ship, it happened in 0.9 sec, I had this silly noobish idea that I cant be shot at in high sec unless someone is suicidal. apparently was There are many ways you can be shot at by others in high sec "legally", that is without Concord intervening. For example: 1. Taking something from a wreck or container that belongs to someone else. (And, assuming you really did not shoot him, I'm going to go ahead and guess that what happened here is that he somehow tricked you into doing this.) 2. Shooting at someone, even if it was done because he is a thief or some other "legal" reason. 3. War declarations. 4. Kill rights. (If you kill someone, for example in low sec, without them shooting back, they get kill rights for a certain length of time. Means you can shoot and kill their ship once, even in high sec.) 5. Being in the same corporation. ----- 'In Eve, as in real life, if you are bored it's your own fault.'
Clb	Posted - 2010.02.20 17:31:00 - [16] Looking at Battleclinic, whatever happened you're not the only mission runner that has fallen for it
Cozmik R5 Minmatar Dock 94	Posted - 2010.02.20 17:33:00 - [17] Originally by: Naomi Wildfire He came, grabbed your loot, salvaged a bit, you shot at him, he returned and popped you. 10m that this is the full story. ^^ We have a winner :) ____________________ Try not. Do. Or do not. There is no try.
Nikita Alterana Gallente Gank Bears	Posted - 2010.02.20 17:35:00 - [18] Before any one screams noob at me, I am a noob thats why I stick to low-sec. I was minding my own business mining Jaspet in 0.2 space then comes along this tingu and pops my drake and leaves as if it was a 0.0 system, no rancer defense league... nothing. if it can be done this easily what is the point of low sec? if I can be shot in 0.4 I can be shot anywhere. and with eve over-population its getting hard for a noob to star making decent isk....
Slade Hoo Amarr 24th Imperial Crusade	Posted - 2010.02.20 17:36:00 - [19] Originally by: Zoltar88 and with eve over-population its getting hard for a noob to star making decent isk.... Stop doin missions in ****ing caldari/jita! ------ Make Lowsec useful! Vote in the CSM-Forum!
Alchemist's Alt Gallente Hysteria Nexus	Posted - 2010.02.20 17:38:00 - [20] Originally by: Nikita Alterana mining Jaspet yup you're a noob FIRST!!
Rashmika Clavain Gallente Revelation Space	Posted - 2010.02.20 17:39:00 - [21] High sec, 0.5+ security, means that an illegal agressor MUST lose their ship to Concorde. It doesn't mean you won't lose your ship too, to the agressor. It also doesn't mean noone can shoot at you in high sec Removed. Please keep your EVE signature related to your EVE persona and not that of a real life politician. Navigator
Usagi Tsukino Stimulus Rote Kapelle	Posted - 2010.02.20 19:09:00 - [22] Originally by: Erialor Godsent Flashing read normally implies wartarget if I'm not mistaken. IIRC aren't war targets the only ones who flash now? ---
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2010.02.20 19:14:00 - [23] Flashing red means they're aggro'd or otherwise a legal target.
Aralieus Amarr Rising Devils Chain of Chaos	Posted - 2010.02.20 19:56:00 - [24] If I was you OP, I would not treat ppl who read and poast on these forums like they were dummies. Granted there are a few re-tards in the bunch but for the most part ppl are generally quick enough to figure out your not telling the whole story just by what you have mentioned already. Also, dont come crying here about your loss, you will find most ppl will just laugh at you and then wardeck you Fortune favors the bold!!!
Zoltar88	Posted - 2010.02.20 20:06:00 - [25] Yes there seems to be alot of poasting here
Tippia Reikoku IT Alliance	Posted - 2010.02.20 20:09:00 - [26] Originally by: Usagi Tsukino Originally by: Erialor Godsent Flashing read normally implies wartarget if I'm not mistaken. IIRC aren't war targets the only ones who flash now? With the default setup, yes, but you can change that and quite a few probably still run on the old settings or on corp/alliance-mandated settings that may work differently. ——— “If you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡… you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.” — Karath Piki
Catherine Frasier	Posted - 2010.02.20 20:16:00 - [27] Originally by: Aralieus Granted there are a few re-tards in the bunch... So are you circumventing the filter or do you really think "retard" should be hyphenated, like it denotes things which were tarded, but then the tarding wore down and they were sent to the shop where they were re-tarded... ? I think the OP is perfectly justified in treating some posters here like they are dummies.
Zartrader	Posted - 2010.02.20 20:18:00 - [28] Originally by: Zoltar88 Yes there seems to be alot of poasting here That's because you left out vital information and made an assumption that hi sec means safe rather than ask how it may be you got aggression. Hi sec just means safer, not safe. If you do something to allow aggression on you then that's something you should learn from, not blame the game. There are many ways you can get aggression and others take advantage of ignorance (I'm ignorant about a lot of things too, which is why I like the game as I learn something new, sometimes the hard way) As said you probably fell for the classic trick of him jettison his cargo...and you looted it. That's the vital bit you missed out. Also there are numerous out of the way systems you can mission in with decent agents so I never have sympathy for anyone who gets salvage ninjad or messed around with as they clearly have not spent a few minute looking at the map.
Catrina Denaries Caldari	Posted - 2010.02.21 14:01:00 - [29] 1. You took something from a can he jettisoned. 2. You are at war. Either works. ----- The yarr is strong with this one.
Halcyon Ingenium Caldari Galactic Couriers and Traders	Posted - 2010.02.21 14:19:00 - [30] This one time, their in high sec, because of sandbox. This is typical. You go on this forum and start reading what people write, finding what they have written to be banal or amusing, never realizing until it is too late that your reading a signature.

CCP Explorer	Posted - 2010.02.21 14:54:00 - [31] Originally by: Zoltar88 Before any one screams noob at me, I am a noob thats why I stick to high-sec. I was minding my own business running a mission in 0.9 space then comes along this tingu and pops my drake and leaves as if it was a 0.1 system, no concord.. nothing. if it can be done this easily what is the point of high sec? if I can be shot in 0.9 I can be shot anywhere. I want to emphasise that there is nothing wrong with CONCORD; based on the logs then it was normal for CONCORD to not show up. Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson Software Director EVE Online, CCP Games

Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2010.02.21 14:57:00 - [32] pwnt Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu The only thing separating us from frightened, feral monkeys is running water on tap, fuel in the tank, and current in our wall sockets.
Boomershoot Caldari Suddenly Ninjas	Posted - 2010.02.21 15:14:00 - [33] Originally by: CCP Explorer Originally by: Zoltar88 Before any one screams noob at me, I am a noob thats why I stick to high-sec. I was minding my own business running a mission in 0.9 space then comes along this tingu and pops my drake and leaves as if it was a 0.1 system, no concord.. nothing. if it can be done this easily what is the point of high sec? if I can be shot in 0.9 I can be shot anywhere. I want to emphasise that there is nothing wrong with CONCORD; based on the logs then it was normal for CONCORD to not show up. oh snap
Serpents smile	Posted - 2010.02.21 15:21:00 - [34] Originally by: CCP Explorer based on the logs yah.
Joe Skellington Minmatar JOKAS Industries	Posted - 2010.02.21 15:30:00 - [35] Originally by: CCP Explorer Originally by: Zoltar88 Before any one screams noob at me, I am a noob thats why I stick to high-sec. I was minding my own business running a mission in 0.9 space then comes along this tingu and pops my drake and leaves as if it was a 0.1 system, no concord.. nothing. if it can be done this easily what is the point of high sec? if I can be shot in 0.9 I can be shot anywhere. I want to emphasise that there is nothing wrong with CONCORD; based on the logs then it was normal for CONCORD to not show up. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZQL22xOmUM
Leaving Eve Boo Hoo Federation	Posted - 2010.02.21 16:19:00 - [36] need moar ccp putting people in their place. MOAR.
Gnulpie Minmatar Miner Tech	Posted - 2010.02.21 16:22:00 - [37] Originally by: CCP Explorer Originally by: Zoltar88 Before any one screams noob at me, I am a noob thats why I stick to high-sec. I was minding my own business running a mission in 0.9 space then comes along this tingu and pops my drake and leaves as if it was a 0.1 system, no concord.. nothing. if it can be done this easily what is the point of high sec? if I can be shot in 0.9 I can be shot anywhere. I want to emphasise that there is nothing wrong with CONCORD; based on the logs then it was normal for CONCORD to not show up. boom - headshot
Kharamete	Posted - 2010.02.21 17:18:00 - [38] Edited by: Kharamete on 21/02/2010 17:18:37 Originally by: CCP Explorer I want to emphasise that there is nothing wrong with CONCORD; based on the logs then it was normal for CONCORD to not show up. I wouldn't say that... They have an annoying habit of showing up when you're doing perfectly legitimate things like teaching haulers to fit a tank.... In the interest of public safety, and for the benefit of industry and trade, Concord should go buy doughnuts in Yulai instead.
Ryhss Caldari	Posted - 2010.02.21 18:13:00 - [39] Originally by: Usagi Tsukino Originally by: Erialor Godsent Flashing read normally implies wartarget if I'm not mistaken. IIRC aren't war targets the only ones who flash now? Red with a skull is pirate I believe, red with a minus is a war target. This is my sig, stop reading.
Iamien Democracy of Klingon Brothers R.A.G.E	Posted - 2010.02.21 18:25:00 - [40] Originally by: Ryhss Originally by: Usagi Tsukino Originally by: Erialor Godsent Flashing read normally implies wartarget if I'm not mistaken. IIRC aren't war targets the only ones who flash now? Red with a skull is pirate I believe, red with a minus is a war target. Lies. Red with minus us low standing to you. Red with star is war target.
Sig Sour	Posted - 2010.02.21 18:29:00 - [41] Originally by: Ryhss IIRC aren't war targets the only ones who flash now? Red with a skull is pirate I believe, red with a minus is a war target. Red skull means you are about to get pwnd. Even if the red skull is in a pod. It is best to just dock up as soon as possible!

CCP Explorer	Posted - 2010.02.21 19:59:00 - [42] Default settings: Blinking red is "at war" or "has temporary kill rights"; can attack without CONCORD intervention. Solid red is "global criminal" or "very low security rating"; CONCORD will intervene but pilot is known not to care. Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson Software Director EVE Online, CCP Games

Cat o'Ninetails Rancer Defence League	Posted - 2010.02.21 20:17:00 - [43] hi cat here how am i meant to tell the difference between a filthy pirate who i can happily shoot and someone who has bad standings to me or my corp lol x
Triple Entendre Emergence Inc.	Posted - 2010.02.21 20:40:00 - [44] Originally by: CCP Explorer Default settings: Blinking red is "at war" or "has temporary kill rights"; can attack without CONCORD intervention. Solid red is "global criminal" or "very low security rating"; CONCORD will intervene but pilot is known not to care. Win.
Zeba Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company	Posted - 2010.02.21 21:22:00 - [45] double pwnt Originally by: Istvaan Shogaatsu The only thing separating us from frightened, feral monkeys is running water on tap, fuel in the tank, and current in our wall sockets.
Tobin Shalim Eclipse Industrials Quantum Forge	Posted - 2010.02.21 23:30:00 - [46] Originally by: CCP Explorer Originally by: Zoltar88 Before any one screams noob at me, I am a noob thats why I stick to high-sec. I was minding my own business running a mission in 0.9 space then comes along this tingu and pops my drake and leaves as if it was a 0.1 system, no concord.. nothing. if it can be done this easily what is the point of high sec? if I can be shot in 0.9 I can be shot anywhere. I want to emphasise that there is nothing wrong with CONCORD; based on the logs then it was normal for CONCORD to not show up. I thought the logs never showed anything? ----- Originally by: Gierling Tech III is going to be "Fully modular" until someone crams the "EW Bonus" modules together with the "8 Midslots" modules...
Caroline Cosmos	Posted - 2010.02.21 23:33:00 - [47] Ever see that show "Bait Car"? Every person arrested has been videotaped stealing the car, but EVERY single one of them claims it was an innocent mistake.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative.	Posted - 2010.02.21 23:39:00 - [48] Originally by: Tobin Shalim Originally by: CCP Explorer Originally by: Zoltar88 Before any one screams noob at me, I am a noob thats why I stick to high-sec. I was minding my own business running a mission in 0.9 space then comes along this tingu and pops my drake and leaves as if it was a 0.1 system, no concord.. nothing. if it can be done this easily what is the point of high sec? if I can be shot in 0.9 I can be shot anywhere. I want to emphasise that there is nothing wrong with CONCORD; based on the logs then it was normal for CONCORD to not show up. I thought the logs never showed anything? Exactly.
Zartrader	Posted - 2010.02.21 23:43:00 - [49] Originally by: Cat o'Ninetails hi cat here how am i meant to tell the difference between a filthy pirate who i can happily shoot and someone who has bad standings to me or my corp lol x Pirates say 'Yarr' and have parrot droppings on their shoulders. You should know that by now.

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