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Padan Fain
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Posted - 2010.02.23 04:56:00 -
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The ISK farmers you see aren't really "macro-mining" in the sense that is meant on this thread. What happens is they work at playing like any other job, they will go into an 'office' and monitor up to ten accounts at a time. Some of them may actually be running a macro, but they are not running it unattended. So, if anyone official attempts to convo them or check up on them, hey.. someone is at keys. That is why 99% of the reports turn into nothing.
I got to be friends with a guy in another game who was always selling/buying huge amounts of crap ingame. I found out later that he was a gold farmer and got as much information on how they run their operations as I could. The only rule they're really breaking is the real money transfer rule. Personally, I don't care what they do, they pay a lot of money in to CCP in subscription fees and are probably the lowest maintenance customers they have.
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Sader Rykane
Amarr
Midnight Sentinels
Midnight Space Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.02.23 05:00:00 -
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 Originally by: Padan Fain
The ISK farmers you see aren't really "macro-mining" in the sense that is meant on this thread. What happens is they work at playing like any other job, they will go into an 'office' and monitor up to ten accounts at a time. Some of them may actually be running a macro, but they are not running it unattended. So, if anyone official attempts to convo them or check up on them, hey.. someone is at keys. That is why 99% of the reports turn into nothing.
I got to be friends with a guy in another game who was always selling/buying huge amounts of crap ingame. I found out later that he was a gold farmer and got as much information on how they run their operations as I could. The only rule they're really breaking is the real money transfer rule. Personally, I don't care what they do, they pay a lot of money in to CCP in subscription fees and are probably the lowest maintenance customers they have.
All you have to do is look at the CPU load graphs in unholy rage devblog to realize how wrong you are.
Sig Gallery is currently down: Contact me ingame for prices.
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Padan Fain
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Posted - 2010.02.23 05:38:00 -
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They may be stressing the infrastructure that the game runs in some instances (i.e., ice belts) but when I say low maintenance I mean it in the sense that they are a customer base CCP can completely ignore. They make no demands on the development of future expansion of the game. They keep their head down and their mouth shut and go about their business. They're the perfect demographic really. Guesstimating on a lowside that maybe 5% of those online at a given time are isk farmers (it's probably higher than that). 5% of 50,000 players (peak) = 2500. 2500x14.95=37375. 37375x12=448500. You're talking nearly a half a million dollars per year from players who don't ***** and or moan about the game.
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Arekhon
Eternal Perseverance
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Posted - 2010.02.23 06:04:00 -
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and the Darwin Award goes too.......
Originally by: Itheaa
macro miners are paying customers too....
with that sentence in mind, do you really think CCP will ban them? Not going to happen buddy and I would like to see soembody prove me wrong. I do macromine myself and even admited it several times, but Im still here, Im still playing the game 
Macrominning is an awesome method of getting some decent amount of ISK while you are at work and cant play.
So join the macrominning cause, because you deserve maximum ISK from minimum work!
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Spruillo
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Posted - 2010.02.23 06:27:00 -
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Mining sux and is very boring which explains the personalities of the ppl doing it they all look like macrominers to me. why mine when you can play the market for 50 times what you can mine if you want. A little less boring but not much.
p.s. can you macro mine in a myrmy?
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Swalesey
Prosperity Through Violence
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Posted - 2010.02.23 11:40:00 -
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I know a corp where we fly quite a bit who run macro mining and ratting. I am 90% sure of this, and that it is probably one guy controlling the corp. I know he wil lget away with it, as occasionaly he will come on and randomly talk to someone off one of the accounts in local. I called him out on it in local once, took him 20 mins for first reply though he was actively mining in the belt.
So I guess CCP have a very difficult job. There are not that many clicks and things to do when mining anyway, there is no skill involved, or randoms usualy. you just undock go to belt turn on lasers wait, warp back, empty, rinse repeat. so a real miner and a macro, will have pretty similar registers of in game activity, only real register could be monitoring online times. I am sure you can say that there is not going to be a person who mines 23/7 7 days a week. I mean come on that's a big clue right there.
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Tatalena
Minmatar
Animosity Cartel
Animosity Conclave
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Posted - 2010.02.23 22:04:00 -
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If you're looking for some macro miner removal from a particular system, send me an eve mail in game or chat me up if i am online. We can setup a pest removal contract to deal with the infestation. It may or may not take a few treatments to get him to go away. We can come up with a contract price at the first meeting if you do want to go though with it.
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Anabaric
Neuro Cartographic Services
Manifest Destiny.
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Posted - 2010.02.23 22:37:00 -
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Quote:
I am sure you can say that there is not going to be a person who mines 23/7 7 days a week. I mean come on that's a big clue right there.
That would be my first step, check the server logs for people on 23/7, then investigate deeper to those clients, ie do they have any other pattens ie mining / ratting / missioning all day long.
You would be able to get a 90% certainty just through simple mass database logging. Then you just need a human to check and confirm prior to the banhammer.
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Neuro is Recruiting...
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Hanna Victory
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Posted - 2010.02.23 22:54:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
I'd like to stop by and remind everyone that Macroing is not allowed. Doing so risks your account. 
Please continue to file petitions against these people, as well as doing what C&P is great for... Blowing them up! Heck pod everyone you pirates, Get off the forums and go kill someone!
Get off the forums and go open some closed petitions then...
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Dark Proteus
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Posted - 2010.02.23 22:55:00 -
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Here is a twist to this topic that may or may not have been discussed in another thread.
I know of several corporations / pilots that are fleecing the known macro miners in a region for mining permits. If the miner pays, he is left to mine his heart out. If the miner refuses to pay they blow them up. So if a corporation takes the ISK from the macro miner and does so regularly then are they just as guilty as the macro miner pilot?
From where I sit I would simply not any ISK from a potential EULA breacher to be anywhere in my wallet or associated with me in some way. At some point in the past I thought differently. Then over time I started ask myself how a GM would decipher the ISK obtained as not being part of a laundry operation. I could see where it could get messy and lets face it, GMs are human beings with a ton of stuff to do as well. At some point they throw their hands in the air and say, "Screw it! you, you and you are guilty by proxy!". Click, click and click and several years of work are snuffed out in a few seconds.
Thoughts?
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Menod Penter
Gallente
University of Caille
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Posted - 2010.02.24 02:33:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Zymurgist
Please continue to file petitions against these people....
Please, Give me(nod) a break!
Petitions regarding macros, scripts, and bots no longer get the needed attention or action like they once did. I don't know what happened, but most GM's mark the petition as complete without any repercussions to the petitioned party as of late. I never minded a player policed game, but when the hired help don't care any longer why should we?
It doesn't take a rocket scientist (or Dev) to spot a scrip/bot/macro user. I know I'm neither and I can see them an AU away. CCP should wake up and smell the code before it's to late!
Menod Penter - Mayor of Rens
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Hanna Victory
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Posted - 2010.02.24 03:02:00 -
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I completely agree with you Menod.
I have tried to get these people to stop by using petitions, but it is evident CCP's only way to get it to stop is using our own resources to stop THEIR problem and also wasting our time by filling out petitions that are immediately closed. They do nothing but claim they are doing stuff....which obviously, they arent with macros in pretty much every system in high sec. I am having to use my own ISK and my own time to enforce your EULA. Post all the claims you want CCP about how good of a job you are doing but macros fly unobstructed.
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mr stare
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Posted - 2010.02.24 13:40:00 -
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Originally by: Sader Rykane
Making a list and checking it twice.
Look CCP is about going big or going home. They'll ban them, but not before they can make sure they're banning them, their friends, their friends friends, and quite possibly the family dog too.
Just give it a few more months and they'll all get banned.
As long as they dont provide any game names on that list, its all bull**** anyway. Anybody can make such graphs and make something big out of it, but without substance, its worth nothing. If people could see a list over named characters that gotten banned and compared it with their own petitions, well...
As long as we the players dont see it, I concidering whatever CCP tell us they do with this, as a joke. The macro miners florish in this game and nothing can and will be done with it.
Prove me wrong and give me a list ccp, or do you hide behind your own created eula rules???
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Shrewmy
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Posted - 2010.03.07 15:43:00 -
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Originally by: Dumuzid
4. Seeming to mine 24/7, apart from downtime
That could just be a sign of having no life. Like me ;_;
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