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Yue Xiang Caldari Signus Shipyards	Posted - 2010.02.25 16:39:00 - [31] just bought my tengu sub systems amp node sequencer aug cap ejection bay fuel catalyst highs 6x hml - scourge fury med 1x dg invul 1x dg invul 1x pith a med boost 1x ab empty slot empty slot lows 4x dg bcu rig ccc ii ccc ii ccc i question for my mids should i get 2x hardners or 1x and a target painter? It is better to light a candle, than to curse the darkness
Lugalzagezi666	Posted - 2010.02.25 16:51:00 - [32] 1. get rid of that super expensive modules /invuls, med booster/ - or count with suicide gank 2. fit small pithi b 3. use at least 2x rigors /t2 preferred/ 4. with rigors you dont need painter 5. use mission spec hardeners
Yue Xiang Caldari Signus Shipyards	Posted - 2010.02.25 17:22:00 - [33] lol second question how does the tengu do against suicide ganks. my nighthawk does fine thou It is better to light a candle, than to curse the darkness
Sturmwolke	Posted - 2010.02.25 17:29:00 - [34] [Tengu Gank Affordable] Damage Control II Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System / T2 Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System / T2 Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System / T2 10MN Afterburner II Gistii B-Type Small Shield Booster Gistii B-Type Small Shield Booster Pithum C-Type Magnetic Scattering Amplifier Invulnerability Field II Invulnerability Field II Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II Total mods + rigs cost probably won't exceed 400 mil if you shop around. I'm normally abhorrent to pimping a ship to death, mainly because I'd be running a few of them - each at different locations Painters will be a BIG pain in the ass when you're shooting frigs, I opt for better rigors instead. It's almost cap stable, but that's not really a big issue for me to worry about.
Lugalzagezi666	Posted - 2010.02.25 17:32:00 - [35] You will have around 30k ehp with your fit, fit is worth around 1,8b /not sure tbh/ - gank bs can have 10k alpha, you need at most 4 bses with arties. Understand?
N Ano Caldari Zerg Corp	Posted - 2010.02.25 18:00:00 - [36] Considering how stupid op is Im starting to think he is a troll.
Kail Storm Caldari Dark Taboo	Posted - 2010.02.25 19:47:00 - [37] Yeah im worried about the OP...I have said 3 times.....LISTEN UP OP......THE TENGU IS THE SAME AS THE NIGHTHAWK JUST STRONGER FASTER AND DOES MORE DMG Go try it out then ask us more questions...Otherwise dont ask questions that have been awnsered alot. Or here eve-search.com If you run, You`ll only die tired :)
Canaloney Soup	Posted - 2010.02.26 17:25:00 - [38] nighthawk can hit smaller tagets better + attack multi target at same time aka drones tengu can tank better with ab both have simlar dps but tengu with cpu subsystem look nicer
Legionos McGuiros Caldari Legio Prima Victrix Apocalypse Now.	Posted - 2010.02.27 00:26:00 - [39] I used this in L4 missions fine, with full spawn aggro. Just find a stationary structure and orbit it at 40-50km, make sure you kill any webbers. Tengu Hi Slot: 6x Heavy Missile Launcher II : Scourge Fury Missile Med Slot: 2x Caldari Navy Invul Field 1x Caldari Navy Photon Field 2x Thukker Large Shield Extender 1x Domination 10mn AB Lo Slot: 3x Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System 1x True Sansha Reactor Control Unit Rig Slot: 3x Medium Shield Extender II Subsystem Slot: Accelerated Ejection Bay Fuel Catalyst Supplemental Screening Dissolution Sequencer Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Needs implants to fit the PG Without Implants and ALL Level 5 it has 670dps and 661m/s Yes its buffer fit but it will last forever as most of the time the rat battleships wont hit you
Kail Storm Caldari Dark Taboo	Posted - 2010.02.27 01:01:00 - [40] Edited by: Kail Storm on 27/02/2010 01:02:03 Either fit it active like most guys do or passive...Dont fit a buffer tank in PVE its a huge waste and not very good in PVE at all. I do all the same DPS and speed and a smaller sig and I tank like 3 times as much. Also why would you use Invulns?....2 Specific 1 invuln at most. If you ever got webbed you would die maybe not right away but you would eventually...Not enough recharge at all to compensate. If you run, You`ll only die tired :)
Mortis Betruger	Posted - 2010.02.27 01:41:00 - [41] One of the things I like best about the Tengu is its small sig rad. Do not put extenders on such a great ship. Even setting still the npcs miss me most of the time and when Im moving with ab bonus at over 600 km they hardly ever hit. I did When Worlds Collide today and half way thru I saw that I had not turned on my hardners lol. I didnt need them just boost the shield once in awhile.
Legionos McGuiros Caldari Legio Prima Victrix Apocalypse Now.	Posted - 2010.02.27 15:04:00 - [42] Originally by: Kail Storm Edited by: Kail Storm on 27/02/2010 01:02:03 Either fit it active like most guys do or passive...Dont fit a buffer tank in PVE its a huge waste and not very good in PVE at all. I do all the same DPS and speed and a smaller sig and I tank like 3 times as much. Also why would you use Invulns?....2 Specific 1 invuln at most. If you ever got webbed you would die maybe not right away but you would eventually...Not enough recharge at all to compensate. I dislike passive and active fits
Lugalzagezi666	Posted - 2010.02.27 16:09:00 - [43] Originally by: Legionos McGuiros ... Use whatever you like. Only to let you know - if you dont use rigor rigs or tps your efficiency goes down by significant amount. And that means more time spent on pve.
Kail Storm Caldari Dark Taboo	Posted - 2010.02.28 00:50:00 - [44] So lug you think a buffer is ok then??? If you run, You`ll only die tired :)
Lugalzagezi666	Posted - 2010.02.28 01:44:00 - [45] You 'can' do missions even with buffer fit tengu - abing around mitigates alot of dps and rats wont have enough time to get through buffer /maybe ae bonus and ea5/ - but inability to shoot furys to cruisers for full dps and hit elite frigs for decent dps /becauseit has no rigors and tps/ makes that fit subpar to standard booster tengu with rigors.
Kzintee Caldari	Posted - 2010.02.28 03:49:00 - [46] I flew both Tengu and NH in lvl5 missions and both do fine. I prefer Tengu for its ability to fit a huge buffer even in omnitank config (90k in NH, 125k in Tengu) that's important for drone/angel/matar missions. DPS wise for me NH loses out by around 10% (that's with drones). So if price is a concern then NH does fine as a lvl5 starter ship, otherwise for measly 250m more you could fly Tengu. Less skill intensive too.
Legionos McGuiros Caldari Legio Prima Victrix Apocalypse Now.	Posted - 2010.02.28 16:17:00 - [47] Originally by: Lugalzagezi666 Originally by: Legionos McGuiros ... Use whatever you like. Only to let you know - if you dont use rigor rigs or tps your efficiency goes down by significant amount. And that means more time spent on pve. Im not a carebear, efficiency doesnt bother me I stopped doing L4's long ago anyway, Sleepers are where its at
Lugalzagezi666	Posted - 2010.02.28 16:19:00 - [48] Originally by: Legionos McGuiros ... Active fits are ofc better for sleepers too.
Soon Shin	Posted - 2010.03.03 11:18:00 - [49] Edited by: Soon Shin on 03/03/2010 11:19:15 There's one think the Nighthawk is good at; Passive Shield Tanking which will save your ass with the neut towers in Level 5's. But if you can hunt sleepers, why bother doing level 5's In all the Tengu is better than the Nighthawk in nearly every way.
Ping Bong	Posted - 2010.03.03 21:32:00 - [50] from suicide ganker pov the moment u put on a 50m+ module ur a viable target so wether your fit costs 500m or 3b doesent really matter, id still gank without thinking twice about it

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