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Karah Serrigan
The Hatchery Team Liquid
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Posted - 2012.06.30 18:33:00 -
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Naomi Wildfire wrote:Linda Shadowborn wrote:Ok after a few fights I found out my main beef with it.
It removes the natural eye state of the middle of the screen to look at the bottom where you can no longer see the ships.
before with the info on the sides you still saw the action since your eyes where at the same vertical level... does my poor english make sense? your english is good :) i can quote you in that case, pulling your eyes down to the HP Bars and you will lose focus on what happens ingame. Because you can get all the action by watching that thrasher orbiting something while fully zoomed in. Yeah... I like the new interface but id lacks the distance of each ship form the center beacon, something the old one had iirc. The mirroring looks weird at first, but you get used to it. |

Tampaxita
Poo Bashers
18
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Posted - 2012.06.30 19:12:00 -
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why most of you guys complain how the interface is too big (and, yes I agree) I also want to point out that it is also too small. I mean, I watch it from my sofa and I can't see anything (even though I have a 40" tv). I mean there is a bunch of information cramped onto a white background but unless you sit 30cms from your monitor you can't really understand anything.
The old interface had pictures of the ships, so yeah, you could tell "look that rifter looking thing is in structure" ... now it's just "third row contains a lot of red"
so yes, it's worse then last year's interface |

Matariki Rain
Lutinari Syndicate Electus Matari
17
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Posted - 2012.06.30 19:34:00 -
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From the sound of it, most of you can see a basically-functional stream to comment on.
I'm in New Zealand. The ATX coverage comes to me as a slideshow with stuttering Wurlitzer sound. That's--briefly--making me nostalgic about the first EVE battles I watched, but it's not an effective viewing experience.
Heading back to bed and planning to watch these on a delayed format. |

Matariki Rain
Lutinari Syndicate Electus Matari
17
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Posted - 2012.06.30 19:37:00 -
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However...
Yay for streaming the qualifying rounds at all.
Yay for the chance to fix infographics and presentation issues before the later rounds.
(Just, please, for those of us with horrible international pings: something functional would be lovely. :) ) |

Zoe Athame
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
92
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Posted - 2012.06.30 19:43:00 -
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Tampaxita wrote:why most of you guys complain how the interface is too big (and, yes I agree) I also want to point out that it is also too small. I mean, I watch it from my sofa and I can't see anything (even though I have a 40" tv). I mean there is a bunch of information cramped onto a white background but unless you sit 30cms from your monitor you can't really understand anything.
The old interface had pictures of the ships, so yeah, you could tell "look that rifter looking thing is in structure" ... now it's just "third row contains a lot of red"
so yes, it's worse then last year's interface
It's pretty safe to say that this sort of internet stream is designed to be watched on a computer monitor that you are sitting close to. This is how the majority will view it and it makes sense to design an interface that provides additional interface to these viewers. |

Versuvius Marii
Ghosts of CKSSA Ironworks Coalition
89
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Posted - 2012.06.30 19:59:00 -
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CCP Soundwave wrote:Naomi Wildfire wrote:CCP Soundwave wrote:It will be a more relevant use of space once the teams are full size I'm not sure if i want to see more stuff, guess like most of us we want to see the space, the fight and the bare info we need, the EW indicator is an awesome thing, but the old interface was compact, ingame related and less excel warrior like. If you watch football, would you like to see 30% of the screen covered? No, but in football you can easily decipher what's going on. Adding the EW for example I find super helpful in terms of finding out who is doing what. So take the old style interface, and add the e-war indicators by them...? Le derp. The Gaming MoD - retro to modern, console to MMO, I blog about it if it's a game and I'm interested in it. Yes, I play games other than Eve and I don't care if you think I'm wrong. |

Naomi Wildfire
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
112
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Posted - 2012.06.30 20:17:00 -
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Tampaxita wrote:why most of you guys complain how the interface is too big (and, yes I agree) I also want to point out that it is also too small. I mean, I watch it from my sofa and I can't see anything (even though I have a 40" tv). I mean there is a bunch of information cramped onto a white background but unless you sit 30cms from your monitor you can't really understand anything.
The old interface had pictures of the ships, so yeah, you could tell "look that rifter looking thing is in structure" ... now it's just "third row contains a lot of red"
so yes, it's worse then last year's interface noticed that aswell, with the old system you could instantly tell what happens to what ship and now you have to browse the bar for names and stuff, it lacks the overview although it should generate it. |

MotherMoon
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
905
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Posted - 2012.06.30 20:30:00 -
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ok, i think it's better than ever, but i miss being able to visually identify the ships.
The little icons for ship were really helpful. Maybe you should stick those ship icons NOAH made last year next to each ship name? YOu know, the cool ones that were for frigate, cruiser,battleship. Not everyone knows which ship is which above. becuase you could see a picture of each ship on each side, it was useful.
Combine this new UI with something to make it easy to see which ships are which. We don't all memorize every ship name. I know which is which, but non-eve players can't remember every single ship. Make it easier to tell whats going on.
love the EW stuff and the 2ns camera on 24/7 Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 sales Xbox 360: 2.2 million PlayStation 3: 1.5 million PC: 500,000http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg |

Terrare Vordai
Sigillum Militum Xpisti Fatal Ascension
0
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Posted - 2012.06.30 20:30:00 -
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I think that the new interface at the bottom is very very helpful. It would be nice to see the effects that are actually occurring rather than what was attempted. I really think the speed is also extremely helpful. |

Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
630
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Posted - 2012.06.30 20:46:00 -
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I like this interface. The excessive empty white space, and OVERLY LOUD SOUND IN COMMERCIALS is really annoying tho. I have like 5% volume during commercials, and it's still wayyyy too loud.  shiptoastin' liek a baws |
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Rhatar Khurin
United Earth Directorate
56
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Posted - 2012.06.30 20:47:00 -
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I dont like the way the ship shield/armour/hull is done. It just seemed wierd the way its mirrored like it is. |

Misanth
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
630
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Posted - 2012.06.30 20:49:00 -
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Rhatar Khurin wrote:I dont like the way the ship shield/armour/hull is done. It just seemed wierd the way its mirrored like it is.
Oh yah, I forgot to mention that, +1 to you sir. shiptoastin' liek a baws |

Gorion Wassenar
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
21
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Posted - 2012.06.30 21:51:00 -
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I think white background for the info dashboard at the bottom was a bad choice. Its "loud" enough that it draws the eyes away from the feed of shipsplosions. Not sure the webcam insert adds anything and, more importantly, deprives the commentators of having the liberty of commentating naked should they chose. |
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CCP Veritas
C C P C C P Alliance
526

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Posted - 2012.06.30 21:56:00 -
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Gorion Wassenar wrote:I think white background for the info dashboard at the bottom was a bad choice. Its "loud" enough that it draws the eyes away from the feed of shipsplosions. Not sure the webcam insert adds anything and, more importantly, deprives the commentators of having the liberty of commentating naked should they chose. Please don't give Bolton any ideas  CCP Veritas - Senior Programmer - EVE Software |
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Salpun
Paramount Commerce Masters of Flying Objects
333
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Posted - 2012.06.30 22:00:00 -
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CCP Veritas You had to join the conversation after that post |

Trebor Daehdoow
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
2202
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Posted - 2012.06.30 22:03:00 -
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The new format is much better than the old one.
The only complaint I've heard that has any validity IMHO is that it is too hard to read the tactical inset, and it would be nice if it was popped up onto the main display much more often.
A version of the tactical which had colored flags on each ship that ID'd the team and ship type would be really nice; it would help the commentators explain the strategy a bit better. Hopefully for the finals they'll have control of what goes into the main panel. The Sarcasm is Strong with Me GÇó Member of CSM 5-7 GÇó Blog |

Alekseyev Karrde
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
593
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Posted - 2012.06.30 22:06:00 -
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Trebor Daehdoow wrote:The new format is much better than the old one.
The only complaint I've heard that has any validity IMHO is that it is too hard to read the tactical inset, and it would be nice if it was popped up onto the main display much more often.
A version of the tactical which had colored flags on each ship that ID'd the team and ship type would be really nice; it would help the commentators explain the strategy a bit better. Hopefully for the finals they'll have control of what goes into the main panel. 1. Scrap the commentator cam for a bigger tactical overlay 2. Make blank white space transparent 3. ??? 4. Profit Arydanika:-á"Alekseyev Karrde mercenary of my heart."-á
CSM7 rep, CSM 4 vet www.noirmercs.com Noir. Academy now recruiting |

Salpun
Paramount Commerce Masters of Flying Objects
333
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Posted - 2012.06.30 22:08:00 -
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Trebor Daehdoow wrote:The new format is much better than the old one.
The only complaint I've heard that has any validity IMHO is that it is too hard to read the tactical inset, and it would be nice if it was popped up onto the main display much more often.
A version of the tactical which had colored flags on each ship that ID'd the team and ship type would be really nice; it would help the commentators explain the strategy a bit better. Hopefully for the finals they'll have control of what goes into the main panel. Its better I agree. The quality level of the in space image degrades though when zoomed in and when moved around alot. Also the text generated by the brackets could be a little bigger. All things that can be fixed hopefully. Range violation warning so the watchers know a ship is in harms way would be nice as well.
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Tony Two Bullet
Monocle Madness The Mockers AO
91
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Posted - 2012.06.30 22:14:00 -
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I think the interface was very very awesome.
I think that the style could be improved slightly with the bright white to match the dark EVE environments though! CEO-á Monocle Madness ~ Mega-Insane Lotteries for the Mentally Unstable http://www.monoclemadness.com |

Matariki Rain
Lutinari Syndicate Electus Matari
17
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Posted - 2012.06.30 22:44:00 -
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Delayed feed works fine to deepest, darkest New Zealand.
Interface is okay. Once you work out where to look there's more information available and more choice about what to follow. Slightly more-legible text might be nice, but I can cope.
It would be fantastic if we could have a live feed watchable at unfortunate ping and good bandwidth for later rounds. :) |
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Mattadore
Higher Than Everest BricK sQuAD.
6
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Posted - 2012.06.30 22:48:00 -
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Yeah I, and alot of people I know hate the big **** off white strip at the bottom. It blocks too much of the screen, and nobody cares to see the stupid ass commentators (who are either lagged behind the feed or don't fuckin pay attention to what's happening (kil2)) faces. It's cool to see the details on their speed and who's being hit with what EWAR etc, but the blinding white is too blinding and we don't see much of the actual match. |

MotherMoon
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
905
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Posted - 2012.06.30 22:48:00 -
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Alekseyev Karrde wrote:Trebor Daehdoow wrote:The new format is much better than the old one.
The only complaint I've heard that has any validity IMHO is that it is too hard to read the tactical inset, and it would be nice if it was popped up onto the main display much more often.
A version of the tactical which had colored flags on each ship that ID'd the team and ship type would be really nice; it would help the commentators explain the strategy a bit better. Hopefully for the finals they'll have control of what goes into the main panel. 1. Scrap the commentator cam for a bigger tactical overlay 2. Make blank white space transparent 3. ??? 4. Profit
glad I voted for you : ) Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 sales Xbox 360: 2.2 million PlayStation 3: 1.5 million PC: 500,000http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg |

MotherMoon
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
905
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Posted - 2012.07.01 00:44:00 -
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Does anyone have a screenshot of the new UI? I'm almost done with my super awesome mock up of a new UI using the same elements, it looks great! just need graphics of current UI so I don't miss anything. Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 sales Xbox 360: 2.2 million PlayStation 3: 1.5 million PC: 500,000http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg |

Tony Two Bullet
Monocle Madness The Mockers AO
91
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Posted - 2012.07.01 00:51:00 -
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I thought it worked well! CEO-á Monocle Madness ~ Mega-Insane Lotteries for the Mentally Unstable http://www.monoclemadness.com |

Linda Shadowborn
Dark Steel Industries
147
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Posted - 2012.07.01 01:43:00 -
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CCP Veritas wrote:Gorion Wassenar wrote:I think white background for the info dashboard at the bottom was a bad choice. Its "loud" enough that it draws the eyes away from the feed of shipsplosions. Not sure the webcam insert adds anything and, more importantly, deprives the commentators of having the liberty of commentating naked should they chose. Please give Bolton some ideas 
fixed that for you
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Jslice
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
0
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Posted - 2012.07.01 03:19:00 -
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Zastrow wrote:The camera views in the old tournament were cinematic and all but didn't really show what was happening. I LOVE the information in the new scoreboard
Hate to agree with a goon but I agree, mostly. Need to change the white to a less horrible colour and if at all possible only show jams when they are actually jammed, rather than just when someone is attempting to jam them.
And get better internet, HD looked great and ran smoothly
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MotherMoon
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
905
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Posted - 2012.07.01 05:15:00 -
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Jslice wrote:Zastrow wrote:The camera views in the old tournament were cinematic and all but didn't really show what was happening. I LOVE the information in the new scoreboard Hate to agree with a goon but I agree, mostly. Need to change the white to a less horrible colour and if at all possible only show jams when they are actually jammed, rather than just when someone is attempting to jam them. And get better internet, HD looked great and ran smoothly
ugh can't somesome get a single screenshot of the new UI? when will they be posted on youtube or somewhere? Why dust 514 is on Console and not PCBattle field 3 sales Xbox 360: 2.2 million PlayStation 3: 1.5 million PC: 500,000http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg |

Kenji Kikuta
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve The Fourth District
0
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Posted - 2012.07.01 05:16:00 -
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Some feedback from an AT viewer since 2008.
- I like the content of the white info box. Though not displaying ship icons makes the game look more like an excel game rather than a spaceship game! Also, can you make the white box info a bit bigger?
- I'd rather see the tactical overlay as the main window as it would show each team's tactics. Showing ships blowing up is good fun but shouldn't be prioritized over displaying tactics.
- Replace current webcam and tactical overlay feeds with two different close-up feeds of ships blowing up during the game?
- Keep up the good work!
<0 Kenji  |

Zumra
INX Industries
0
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Posted - 2012.07.01 05:54:00 -
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I like the new AI, 2 things:
1. ok, the white is a little bright, if they could change it to something else and still make the ewar stuff visible it would be nice.
2. I would like them to add in the ship icon/image/window thingy. I recognize most ships by how they look not their name, maybe get rid of the boxes on the side to make room for it, I don't really need to see the commentators pretty faces :P |

Bree Okanata
Romex Inc. Dustm3n
21
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Posted - 2012.07.01 07:53:00 -
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I agree. I liked AT9s interface a lot more. It was way easier to watch on our TV. |
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