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Cutter Isaacson
Peace N Quiet
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Posted - 2012.07.02 23:40:00 -
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rodyas wrote:^ They are just saying the heavy handed ISD make them angry and stuff, which forces them to be such bad posters. Its a valid point, though who knows if true or not.
No one has a gun to these peoples heads forcing them to do anything of the kind. Do not try and lay the blame for other peoples actions at the feet of the staff, that is as far from a valid point as you could possibly get.
Numbers of terminally stupid people seem to be on the increase, I suggest we have a real life Stupidageddon to rectify this issue. |
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
539
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Posted - 2012.07.03 00:33:00 -
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^ Ah so wise, yes ISD do not have guns. Thanks. They can do something else, and I am sure you are smart enough to know it. Also don't lay blame at feet of staff, that is kind of funny. You are right though once again, I should tell blizzard that ISD are annoying, not EVE's staff
Of course you are a free range sheriff right now, not owning any ties to companies or something. So I can see how you can get confused to what appropriate courses of actions are.
I will not be voting in the CSM election, so you need to go vote to make up for me. |
Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy
Black Sun Alliance
261
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Posted - 2012.07.03 00:52:00 -
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Quote:Why are these forums so bad?
removal of complete and standard BBcodes is the main reason...
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Korsiri
Mousetrap Building Inc.
48
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Posted - 2012.07.03 00:58:00 -
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there are obvious trolls, which is its own art and much perfected here
but frankly I find it refreshing to be on forums where people aren't afraid to call a spade a spade
and if you're too stupid to use google, you deserve what you get
regardless, I've seen people take pity and help the google-fools
so, sorry they ain't all bad
and anyway, passion inspires passion
even, occasionally lust as well
this is being a gamer, nothing wrong with that |
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
228
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Posted - 2012.07.03 01:03:00 -
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rodyas wrote:^ Ah so wise, yes ISD do not have guns. Thanks. They can do something else, and I am sure you are smart enough to know it. Also don't lay blame at feet of staff, that is kind of funny. You are right though once again, I should tell blizzard that ISD are annoying, not EVE's staff
Of course you are a free range sheriff right now, not owning any ties to companies or something. So I can see how you can get confused to what appropriate courses of actions are.
It may be worth considering that if CCP was inundated with ISD related petitions regarding their misconduct but they didn't have the fallback of pointing to several strait pages of locked retaliatory spam threads, we might see CCP looking at this from a different angle. Regardless of who is starting it, lashing out and exasperating the issue helps who exactly? |
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
539
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Posted - 2012.07.03 01:07:00 -
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It helps me mostly. And I thought if people did petition over ISD, CCP would just state, they are understaffed as a company and these are the only people willing to help out. So give them time, help them work out their kinks, then enjoy better forums. Alot of companies just say they are understaffed to explain problems.
I will not be voting in the CSM election, so you need to go vote to make up for me. |
Eternum Praetorian
True Creation
817
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Posted - 2012.07.03 01:13:00 -
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Op
I am not sure how long you have been playing, but I clearly remember a time when all the **** posters stayed ONLY in the CAOD section of the forums. For some reason that I cannot explain, in the past 1-2 years the asshatery of that section has trickled out to all of the rest of the forums sections and have become the norm. Ultimately, it has to do with CCP's complete lack of rule enforcement which has bred an environment that favors the loud, the immature, the hateful and then obnoxious. That's not a good business model IMO.
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InternetSpaceship
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
96
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Posted - 2012.07.03 01:35:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:rodyas wrote:^ Ah so wise, yes ISD do not have guns. Thanks. They can do something else, and I am sure you are smart enough to know it. Also don't lay blame at feet of staff, that is kind of funny. You are right though once again, I should tell blizzard that ISD are annoying, not EVE's staff
Of course you are a free range sheriff right now, not owning any ties to companies or something. So I can see how you can get confused to what appropriate courses of actions are. It may be worth considering that if CCP was inundated with ISD related petitions regarding their misconduct but they didn't have the fallback of pointing to several strait pages of locked retaliatory spam threads, we might see CCP looking at this from a different angle. Regardless of who is starting it, lashing out and exasperating the issue helps who exactly?
Eh, who really cares? These forums were a total shithole long before ISD showed up. They're just accelerating the decline into a carebear feel-good circlejerk forum, much like the players behind them want to do to Eve as a whole. As long as their power is restricted to the forums, it really doesn't matter.
Official Recruiter for GoonSwarm Corporation.
If you paid isk to get into GoonSwarm, you were probably scammed.-á If you had the foresight to save the name of your scammer, let me know and I'll do what I can to help you. |
Cutter Isaacson
Peace N Quiet
710
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Posted - 2012.07.03 02:05:00 -
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rodyas wrote:^ Ah so wise, yes ISD do not have guns. Thanks. They can do something else, and I am sure you are smart enough to know it. Also don't lay blame at feet of staff, that is kind of funny. You are right though once again, I should tell blizzard that ISD are annoying, not EVE's staff
Of course you are a free range sheriff right now, not owning any ties to companies or something. So I can see how you can get confused to what appropriate courses of actions are.
What exactly are you talking about? You stated that the actions of the ISD forced people to be vulgar, abusive and disruptive. I merely pointed out that the choice of how to act was entirely down to the people posting on the forums.
There were two courses of action available to people. They could either voice their displeasure in an adult fashion, detailing clearly their grievances, citing examples if possible and perhaps even noting ways in which the situation could be improved.
Then there is the other course of action. Go to the forums, make multiple threads lacking content, context or discussion of any usable nature. Then proceed to hurl abuse, make attacks of a personal nature and cause endless disruption.
Neither of those options, if looked at by a reasonable adult, would require coercion, force or threats of any kind. Proof of what I am saying is readily available in multiple places. There are those people who made a choice in the beginning to take option number one, some of those people are now taking the second option, they are making choices.
In fact I am going to use one of those people as an example, and I hope he takes it as the compliment that it is meant to be. Ruby Porto, now posting on his alt Pipa Porto, was one of the people who at first chose option one to air their grievances. However, as soon as it became clear that that option was not viable, and as soon as suitable lines of communication became available, he switched to option two and has, for the most part, done a fairly good job of attempting rational discourse.
No one from CCP or the ISD has forced him to do this, he could have sat back and said nothing more or even continued to be aggressive, but clearly he feels that this is something he can contribute to, and as such has made the choice to take the second option and at least try to post responsibly.
As to the rest of your reply, frankly I have no idea what you are on about.
Numbers of terminally stupid people seem to be on the increase, I suggest we have a real life Stupidageddon to rectify this issue. |
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
539
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Posted - 2012.07.03 02:14:00 -
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^ Ah I see, you just want everyone to be more adult. That is fine. I do forget there are people like that really. So it is good to be refreshed on that. Of course not everyone is like that, so the battle will propably be hard, at least you do have allies though. I did remember Ruby, but I havn't played recently so I didn't know his story, thanks.
I will not be voting in the CSM election, so you need to go vote to make up for me. |
Plus 1
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
74
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Posted - 2012.07.03 02:15:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:This is nothing compared to the dying days of SWG pre-NGE.
Excessive Negativity bans - Best forum feature ever |
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ISD Tyrozan
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
13
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Posted - 2012.07.03 02:21:00 -
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This thread has had two posts deleted for personal attacks and abuse of CCP staff.
Constructive criticism and suggestions are requested. Please help us build a better set of forums.
ISD Tyrozan
Ensign
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department |
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Gorinia Sanford
Sons of Russ
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Posted - 2012.07.03 02:28:00 -
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Dave stark wrote:Emperor Maurice wrote:Dave stark wrote:been on battle.net forums, still think this place is worse.
sure thing buddy, sure thing... You may laugh and ridicule the WoW players - but they have enthusasism and spirit for the game they love and play. Sure, there is moaning and complaining, but ideas are actually built upon - and people want one thing, a better game. Here, its all negative and firey. no, they don't. they can't spell, they don't understand the basic game mechanics of such a simple game and they have the combined analytical skills of a ******** goldfish. if you play wow and you want answers to questions you head over to the ej forums, not the battle.net forums. blizzard had to add an extra difficulty setting to their dungeons, below the current difficulty, so people could actually see the content because the vast majority of players are so bad at the game. then on top of that, so they didn't get left out of getting the good loot, they made the other two difficulties lower themselves over time. when your player base is that bad you have to design content that gets easier over time to cater to them, you know you're taking money from the vulnerable.
Just making a point on the highlighted section:
Really? They (WoW players) can't spell? Have you read these forums lately? I can't begin to count the number of people who don't the difference between "there", "their" and "they're"; and "your" and "you're".
The other items I have mixed feelings about. However, the progressive murder of the English language has always been an irritation to me. |
Kult Altol
Republican Industries
Epsilon Fleet
3
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Posted - 2012.07.03 02:43:00 -
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Negative and fiery is bad? |
Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam
Dark Matter Coalition
1
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Posted - 2012.07.03 03:45:00 -
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Eve forum is only bad because of Trolling 'forum alts'
Battlenets forums aren't that bad, sure they aren't brilliant but they aren't the worst forums on the planet.
FM's forums probably have the highest concentration of grammar ****'s.
LoL's forums are the worst I've ever seen anywhere.
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InternetSpaceship
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
98
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Posted - 2012.07.03 04:14:00 -
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ISD Tyrozan wrote:
Criticize us, eh? Deleted.
Fixed that for you. Sorry we don't like you turning the forums into a candy-assed pubbie carebear playground. It kind of clashes with the game these forums are attached to. It sure is convenient to be able to simply silence your detractors, rather than actually answer to their concerns, though.
Official Recruiter for GoonSwarm Corporation.
If you paid isk to get into GoonSwarm, you were probably scammed.-á If you had the foresight to save the name of your scammer, let me know and I'll do what I can to help you. |
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
539
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Posted - 2012.07.03 04:36:00 -
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Yeah ISD should be constructive as well, if they demand that from us. Teach us. Teach us how not to be abusive to CCP staff and what is wrong with personal attacks.
I want to build with you, but I just don't know how to.
I will not be voting in the CSM election, so you need to go vote to make up for me. |
InternetSpaceship
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
98
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Posted - 2012.07.03 07:59:00 -
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rodyas wrote:Yeah ISD should be constructive as well, if they demand that from us. Teach us. Teach us how not to be abusive to CCP staff and what is wrong with personal attacks.
I want to build with you, but I just don't know how to.
They don't want to build anything, they just want to be able to do something to players they don't like (ie goons and goon allies), so they lash out the only way they can, on the forums. It's a power trip, pure and simple, and I'm not at all surprised CCP didn't consider something exactly like this would happen before allowing player volunteers to police the forums.
Official Recruiter for GoonSwarm Corporation.
If you paid isk to get into GoonSwarm, you were probably scammed.-á If you had the foresight to save the name of your scammer, let me know and I'll do what I can to help you. |
Roime
Shiva Furnace
Dead On Arrival Alliance
937
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Posted - 2012.07.03 08:13:00 -
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NPC corp members should not be allowed to post outside EVE new Citizens Q&A. This change would benefit the whole community by preventing most of the bad posts and alt trolling, and better define the NPC corps as what they are - place for new players to be in before finding a real corp.
Shiva Furnace - now recruiting solid pilots! |
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