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Emperor Maurice
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.06.30 19:09:00 -
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I've been posting in many forums over the years: the Something Awful forums, the battle.net forums, MMORPG.com and all the other comment boards of IGN and massively.com - but Eve Online has one of the most disgusting forums on the internet. Let me tell you why:
- Arguments repeat themselves, over, and over again: buff Hulks, nerf hulks, buff titans, nerf titans, ban Mittani, free Mittani.... - The ISD team are extremely hostile, and threads are being locked like crazy - for only minor offences - 99% of the time, forum bans apply to only a single character (I would know). For a game which encourages multi-box play, this is absolutely ludicrous. - People like me, make threads complaining about other ****** threads - and end up getting even more threads locked.
This is how you fix the above issues:
- Loosen the ISDs' involvement in forum moderation - Ban IPs, accounts - both in game and out of game - Have a clear set of rules which are displayed in either a pop-up or bold menu link - not on a hidden wiki page
Note: If you lock this thread, these forums will burn and shrivel. Listen to my ideas, and then maybe you devs will have a better understanding of your own players' ideas - streamlining the feedback, input and development process. |
Dave stark
Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore
100
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Posted - 2012.06.30 19:11:00 -
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been on battle.net forums, still think this place is worse.
sure thing buddy, sure thing... |
Emperor Maurice
Viziam Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.06.30 19:13:00 -
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Dave stark wrote:been on battle.net forums, still think this place is worse.
sure thing buddy, sure thing...
You may laugh and ridicule the WoW players - but they have enthusasism and spirit for the game they love and play. Sure, there is moaning and complaining, but ideas are actually built upon - and people want one thing, a better game. Here, its all negative and firey. |
Victoria Sin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
42
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Posted - 2012.06.30 19:13:00 -
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Posting in a goon-alt whine thread. |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1527
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Posted - 2012.06.30 19:13:00 -
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Occasionally there are ultra bad combo-breaker threads like this one too. |
Emperor Maurice
Viziam Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.06.30 19:16:00 -
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Victoria Sin wrote:Posting in a goon-alt whine thread.
I'm many things, but an alt I am not - especially a goon alt. Believe it or not, there are many SA posters who loathe the "goonfleet" culture - remember folks, the forum was there long before the corp was, and will be there long after the corp collapses. |
Dave stark
Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore
100
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Posted - 2012.06.30 19:21:00 -
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Emperor Maurice wrote:Dave stark wrote:been on battle.net forums, still think this place is worse.
sure thing buddy, sure thing... You may laugh and ridicule the WoW players - but they have enthusasism and spirit for the game they love and play. Sure, there is moaning and complaining, but ideas are actually built upon - and people want one thing, a better game. Here, its all negative and firey.
no, they don't.
they can't spell, they don't understand the basic game mechanics of such a simple game and they have the combined analytical skills of a ******** goldfish. if you play wow and you want answers to questions you head over to the ej forums, not the battle.net forums.
blizzard had to add an extra difficulty setting to their dungeons, below the current difficulty, so people could actually see the content because the vast majority of players are so bad at the game. then on top of that, so they didn't get left out of getting the good loot, they made the other two difficulties lower themselves over time.
when your player base is that bad you have to design content that gets easier over time to cater to them, you know you're taking money from the vulnerable. |
Victoria Sin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
42
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Posted - 2012.06.30 19:22:00 -
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Emperor Maurice wrote:Victoria Sin wrote:Posting in a goon-alt whine thread. I'm many things, but an alt I am not - especially a goon alt. Believe it or not, there are many SA posters who loathe the "goonfleet" culture - remember folks, the forum was there long before the corp was, and will be there long after the corp collapses.
Posting in the SA forums is a pre-requisite for GS membership, isn't it? |
baltec1
1568
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Posted - 2012.06.30 19:23:00 -
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This is nothing compared to the dying days of SWG pre-NGE. |
Emperor Maurice
Viziam Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.06.30 19:24:00 -
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Dave stark wrote:Emperor Maurice wrote:Dave stark wrote:been on battle.net forums, still think this place is worse.
sure thing buddy, sure thing... You may laugh and ridicule the WoW players - but they have enthusasism and spirit for the game they love and play. Sure, there is moaning and complaining, but ideas are actually built upon - and people want one thing, a better game. Here, its all negative and firey. no, they don't. they can't spell, they don't understand the basic game mechanics of such a simple game and they have the combined analytical skills of a ******** goldfish. if you play wow and you want answers to questions you head over to the ej forums, not the battle.net forums. blizzard had to add an extra difficulty setting to their dungeons, below the current difficulty, so people could actually see the content because the vast majority of players are so bad at the game. then on top of that, so they didn't get left out of getting the good loot, they made the other two difficulties lower themselves over time. when your player base is that bad you have to design content that gets easier over time to cater to them, you know you're taking money from the vulnerable.
The demographic Blizzard are targetting are the casuals - typically people not very hot on the old keyboard. Their spelling and forum posting skills may be poor as a result of that, however it doesn't muddle the intention of their posts. Spelling and grammar mean nothing when a good heart is present. |
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Emperor Maurice
Viziam Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.06.30 19:25:00 -
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Victoria Sin wrote:Emperor Maurice wrote:Victoria Sin wrote:Posting in a goon-alt whine thread. I'm many things, but an alt I am not - especially a goon alt. Believe it or not, there are many SA posters who loathe the "goonfleet" culture - remember folks, the forum was there long before the corp was, and will be there long after the corp collapses. Posting in the SA forums is a pre-requisite for GS membership, isn't it?
One of the many optional ways of getting in, but 99% of the people on GF aren't SA posters, just pubbies and spies who paid $10 to get in. Doesn't mean having an SA account automatically puts you in the corp. |
Bobo Cindekela
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.06.30 19:29:00 -
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INB4AUTHENTICATOR111! |
Emperor Maurice
Viziam Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.06.30 19:33:00 -
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Bobo Cindekela wrote:INB4AUTHENTICATOR111!
Tune in for my next thread, when I'll be giving my reasons for why CCP need to create an Eve Online authenticator key-ring to keep our accounts safe from the hackers. |
Dave stark
Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore
101
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Posted - 2012.06.30 19:35:00 -
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Emperor Maurice wrote:Dave stark wrote:Emperor Maurice wrote:Dave stark wrote:been on battle.net forums, still think this place is worse.
sure thing buddy, sure thing... You may laugh and ridicule the WoW players - but they have enthusasism and spirit for the game they love and play. Sure, there is moaning and complaining, but ideas are actually built upon - and people want one thing, a better game. Here, its all negative and firey. no, they don't. they can't spell, they don't understand the basic game mechanics of such a simple game and they have the combined analytical skills of a ******** goldfish. if you play wow and you want answers to questions you head over to the ej forums, not the battle.net forums. blizzard had to add an extra difficulty setting to their dungeons, below the current difficulty, so people could actually see the content because the vast majority of players are so bad at the game. then on top of that, so they didn't get left out of getting the good loot, they made the other two difficulties lower themselves over time. when your player base is that bad you have to design content that gets easier over time to cater to them, you know you're taking money from the vulnerable. The demographic Blizzard are targetting are the casuals - typically people not very hot on the old keyboard. Their spelling and forum posting skills may be poor as a result of that, however it doesn't muddle the intention of their posts. Spelling and grammar mean nothing when a good heart is present.
being a casual player has NOTHING to do with basic things like being able to type a coherent sentence.
all of the posts are from crap players saying "make it easier" or good players saying "stop removing the fun from the game" sadly, most of the players are bad, so the game gets made easier and easier. quite sad.
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Soundwave Plays Diablo
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2012.06.30 19:36:00 -
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Emperor Maurice wrote:I've been posting in many forums over the years: the Something Awful forums, the battle.net forums, MMORPG.com and all the other comment boards of IGN and massively.com - but Eve Online has one of the most disgusting forums on the internet. Let me tell you why:
- Arguments repeat themselves, over, and over again: buff Hulks, nerf hulks, buff titans, nerf titans, ban Mittani, free Mittani.... - The ISD team are extremely hostile, and threads are being locked like crazy - for only minor offences - 99% of the time, forum bans apply to only a single character (I would know). For a game which encourages multi-box play, this is absolutely ludicrous. - People like me, make threads complaining about other ****** threads - and end up getting even more threads locked.
This is how you fix the above issues:
- Loosen the ISDs' involvement in forum moderation - Ban IPs, accounts - both in game and out of game - Have a clear set of rules which are displayed in either a pop-up or bold menu link - not on a hidden wiki page
Note: If you lock this thread, these forums will burn and shrivel. Listen to my ideas, and then maybe you devs will have a better understanding of your own players' ideas - streamlining the feedback, input and development process.
Thats just silly. Just my current ban would cos them 210USD if they did that. If everyone with my IP had current characters it would ban 3 people and cost another 104USD. The idea is especially bad IMHO.
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Andrea Roche
State War Academy Caldari State
142
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Posted - 2012.06.30 19:39:00 -
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Emperor Maurice wrote:I've been posting in many forums over the years: the Something Awful forums, the battle.net forums, MMORPG.com and all the other comment boards of IGN and massively.com - but Eve Online has one of the most disgusting forums on the internet. Let me tell you why:
- Arguments repeat themselves, over, and over again: buff Hulks, nerf hulks, buff titans, nerf titans, ban Mittani, free Mittani.... - The ISD team are extremely hostile, and threads are being locked like crazy - for only minor offences - 99% of the time, forum bans apply to only a single character (I would know). For a game which encourages multi-box play, this is absolutely ludicrous. - People like me, make threads complaining about other ****** threads - and end up getting even more threads locked.
This is how you fix the above issues:
- Loosen the ISDs' involvement in forum moderation - Ban IPs, accounts - both in game and out of game - Have a clear set of rules which are displayed in either a pop-up or bold menu link - not on a hidden wiki page
Note: If you lock this thread, these forums will burn and shrivel. Listen to my ideas, and then maybe you devs will have a better understanding of your own players' ideas - streamlining the feedback, input and development process.
you are a terrible poster and if anyone needs banning its probably you |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
1394
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Posted - 2012.06.30 19:42:00 -
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all of these problems can be traced to the fact moderators are hired not ensure forum quality but to ensure that a specific criteria of rules are enforced. A thread can be as stupid, libelous and full of blatant forum alt trolling and cowardposting as it possibly can be and mods won't step in unless it isn't technically a "rant". After 9 years they finally made it a rule to not baselessly accuse CCP employees of professional misconduct after like 3 solid months of posters flooding threads with it. They should make it a rule "just don't post stupid ****" and start enforcing it. |
Kijo Rikki
Killboard Padding Services
115
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Posted - 2012.06.30 19:49:00 -
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Just remember what Alamo said, bare can B 4 tank, cat is for fite and tree durids is heel! |
Kimmi Chan
Illuminatus Reforged The Revenant Order
219
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Posted - 2012.06.30 19:55:00 -
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Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:all of these problems can be traced to the fact moderators are hired not ensure forum quality but to ensure that a specific criteria of rules are enforced. A thread can be as stupid, libelous and full of blatant forum alt trolling and cowardposting as it possibly can be and mods won't step in unless it isn't technically a "rant". After 9 years they finally made it a rule to not baselessly accuse CCP employees of professional misconduct after like 3 solid months of posters flooding threads with it. They should make it a rule "just don't post stupid ****" and start enforcing it.
This right here. A million times, this.
If you don't want people to treat you like an idiot, don't post like an idiot. Not a difficult concept.
-á"Miners mine so I don't have to." ~Metal Icarus |
Emperor Maurice
Viziam Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.06.30 19:56:00 -
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Dave stark wrote:Emperor Maurice wrote:Dave stark wrote:Emperor Maurice wrote:Dave stark wrote:been on battle.net forums, still think this place is worse.
sure thing buddy, sure thing... You may laugh and ridicule the WoW players - but they have enthusasism and spirit for the game they love and play. Sure, there is moaning and complaining, but ideas are actually built upon - and people want one thing, a better game. Here, its all negative and firey. no, they don't. they can't spell, they don't understand the basic game mechanics of such a simple game and they have the combined analytical skills of a ******** goldfish. if you play wow and you want answers to questions you head over to the ej forums, not the battle.net forums. blizzard had to add an extra difficulty setting to their dungeons, below the current difficulty, so people could actually see the content because the vast majority of players are so bad at the game. then on top of that, so they didn't get left out of getting the good loot, they made the other two difficulties lower themselves over time. when your player base is that bad you have to design content that gets easier over time to cater to them, you know you're taking money from the vulnerable. The demographic Blizzard are targetting are the casuals - typically people not very hot on the old keyboard. Their spelling and forum posting skills may be poor as a result of that, however it doesn't muddle the intention of their posts. Spelling and grammar mean nothing when a good heart is present. being a casual player has NOTHING to do with basic things like being able to type a coherent sentence. all of the posts are from crap players saying "make it easier" or good players saying "stop removing the fun from the game" sadly, most of the players are bad, so the game gets made easier and easier. quite sad.
My grandmother, a very formal and dignified woman (gives lectures on a regular basis) does not type in the manner in which she speaks. Her sentences miss words, are not capitalized and contain very little punctuation - yet she is part of the demographic Blizzard target. |
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Private Pineapple
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
117
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Posted - 2012.06.30 19:57:00 -
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They aren't bad at all. The EVE Online forums are the most enjoyable of any game I've played. I am the Kingpin of the Crime and Punishment forum. |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1211
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Posted - 2012.06.30 19:59:00 -
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Emperor Maurice wrote:One of the many optional ways of getting in, but 99% of the people on GF aren't SA posters, just pubbies and spies who paid $10 to get in. Doesn't mean having an SA account automatically puts you in the corp.
I think you're lowballing it with that 99% figure. Are you sure you're from SA? a rogue goon |
Emperor Maurice
Viziam Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.06.30 20:01:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:Emperor Maurice wrote:One of the many optional ways of getting in, but 99% of the people on GF aren't SA posters, just pubbies and spies who paid $10 to get in. Doesn't mean having an SA account automatically puts you in the corp. I think you're lowballing it with that 99% figure. Are you sure you're from SA?
I'm just replicating one of the many bullshit figures available on these awful forums. Don't believe me, mail me your SA game and I'll "hit you up" with a PM |
Benjamin Eastwood
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2012.06.30 20:01:00 -
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The positively worst forum out there are the battlelog forums for BF3. They have everything you just mentioned, but on a scale yet matched by the internet stupidity bank. |
Reptail
SPACE LIGHT EMPIRE
8
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Posted - 2012.06.30 20:03:00 -
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your stuff? |
Diesel47
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
28
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Posted - 2012.06.30 20:05:00 -
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confirm these forums are bad. |
Emperor Maurice
Viziam Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.06.30 20:08:00 -
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Diesel47 wrote:confirm these forums are bad.
Lets keep our posting constructive - the minority, us good-posters, must work together to do the jobs the ISD aren't doing. Instead of closing threads, steer them on the right track. Instead of redirecting people with the same spam message linking to the rules sheet, explain each rule - and why they should follow it. ISDs are primarily recruited for being active and friendly people - let them utilize that friendlyness on the forums.
"Be personal in your sanctioning." |
Soundwave Plays Diablo
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2012.06.30 20:15:00 -
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Emperor Maurice wrote:Diesel47 wrote:confirm these forums are bad. Lets keep our posting constructive - the minority, us good-posters, must work together to do the jobs the ISD aren't doing. Instead of closing threads, steer them on the right track. Instead of redirecting people with the same spam message linking to the rules sheet, explain each rule - and why they should follow it. ISDs are primarily recruited for being active and friendly people - let them utilize that friendlyness on the forums. "Be personal in your sanctioning."
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Emperor Maurice
Viziam Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.06.30 20:18:00 -
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Soundwave Plays Diablo wrote:Emperor Maurice wrote:Diesel47 wrote:confirm these forums are bad. Lets keep our posting constructive - the minority, us good-posters, must work together to do the jobs the ISD aren't doing. Instead of closing threads, steer them on the right track. Instead of redirecting people with the same spam message linking to the rules sheet, explain each rule - and why they should follow it. ISDs are primarily recruited for being active and friendly people - let them utilize that friendlyness on the forums. "Be personal in your sanctioning." https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=435610973128650&set=a.293411780681904.74193.288501767839572&type=1&ref=nf
I don't use Facebook, it is all too "pornographic" for my tasting. It is an invasion of my privacy, something we have little of in this information age. |
Mallak Azaria
206
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Posted - 2012.06.30 20:19:00 -
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Emperor Maurice wrote:I've been posting in many forums over the years: the Something Awful forums
Gas thread, ban OP. |
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