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solicitatora Caldari The Minutemen Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2010.03.01 20:38:00 - [1] Please keep this thread strictly civil. *- I will like to know how the eve community feels now that the last of the true NRDS alliance seems to be losing ground after so many years?!?!?!?! Please again. only express how you think the EVE community will react to the southern coalition after their taking of providence? good or bad?? clearly abuse of power was shown on the southern coalition's part; In which for example, they could've easily move forces north and finish what would be the last great war, per say. Now all eyes are back on the south.... I will quote myself from a diff post since it all relates anyhow, and note this is only my opinion on the matter. "shame on UK and the southern coalition for taking out the last of the NRDS alliance. May it curse the game play of you and your friends like it has in the past. cheers for the awesomeness of gang jumping tactics. Rolling Eyes -soli" I truly feel that the southern coalition it's acting wrongfully by taking CVA space. They should really grow some marbles, take the time to do some logistics and move their fat arse's to the real enemy. But at this point you can clearly see it's an act of laziness on part of the high command for the southern coalition. This is where I tip my hat to the northern coalition. and say good job to you guys for being strong, since they move forces so easily with no hesitation to help their allies. clearly can see who has a better mindset. So sad that greed has poison the minds of the southern bandwagon so quickly, such shame.... ugh I hope all of eve turns against you guys like it did not so long ago. Wink -soli
Butter Dog Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.01 20:40:00 - [2] Edited by: Butter Dog on 01/03/2010 20:42:42 lol guess what they're not the only NRDS alliance in the game and the southern coalition aren't trying to 'take providence' your whole post is just awful... worse than my usual coad output, and thats p bad ---------- ~bitter dog~ etc
Dek Kato Amarr Delusions of Mediocrity	Posted - 2010.03.01 20:45:00 - [3] I'm sorry, you seem to be confused about the meaning of "true NRDS". NRDS means that YOUR alliance will not engage neutrals, it means nothing about what others do in your space. CVA operates a modified version, forcing NRDS on everyone in their space (rather unsuccesfully). U'K will likely operate true NRDS. I for one look forward to Providence becoming TRUE NRDS. Also, greed is what led CVA to stupidly attack a much larger neutral party, therefor leading to this downfall. So, fail.
Borza Slavak Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.01 20:46:00 - [4] Confirming that Ushra'Khan are only fighting CVA because we're too lazy to go attack the NC, our real enemy.
solicitatora Caldari The Minutemen Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2010.03.01 20:47:00 - [5] they're the oldest, and the only one recognize in the EVE community as NRDS. But anyhow, I would politely listen to your opinion if you have one that's productive to my question in the matter. I don't want to divert my attention. thanks.... So please folks out there, don't be embarrass to tells us what/how you think the EVE community will react to this change in providence???
Adeptus mecanicus Caldari The Flaming Sideburn's Fuzzy Nut Attack Squirrels	Posted - 2010.03.01 20:47:00 - [6] Dude they Invaded -A- first and they border to -A- space, where is the logic in moving your fleet north and ignoring a attack on your back yard? shure NRDS is a nifty thing but hardly can -A- feel ashamed of current affairs considering they even offerd a settlement with CVA but CVA refused Recruitment
Butter Dog Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.01 20:49:00 - [7] Originally by: solicitatora they're the oldest, and the only one recognize in the EVE community as NRDS. wrong and wrong do you know anything factual about providence, CVA, and UK? go on, throw me a bone ---------- ~bitter dog~ etc
solicitatora Caldari The Minutemen Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2010.03.01 20:52:00 - [8] Originally by: Dek Kato I'm sorry, you seem to be confused about the meaning of "true NRDS". NRDS means that YOUR alliance will not engage neutrals, it means nothing about what others do in your space. CVA operates a modified version, forcing NRDS on everyone in their space (rather unsuccesfully). U'K will likely operate true NRDS. I for one look forward to Providence becoming TRUE NRDS. Also, greed is what led CVA to stupidly attack a much larger neutral party, therefor leading to this downfall. So, fail. thanks for answering and giving me your honest response. The other UK guys seem to be flaming me, After I politely asked to be civil. It's only normal for someone to defend if feeling threaten. I will most than likely be forced to find an operator lock some responses since people have no moderation for players like myself while posting.
RuleoftheBone Minmatar The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.01 20:55:00 - [9] Intrepid Crossing. Yuck. :insertlarkimage:
Megan Maynard Minmatar Clown Punchers. Clown Punchers Syndicate	Posted - 2010.03.01 20:56:00 - [10] UK are just upset they have to borrow space from AAA in order to have "space"..... Originally by: F'nog Originally by: Stareatthesun No no no ... Polaris is where CCP keeps the death star that will destroy eve when the servers shut down. Thankfully I've got Interceptors trained to V. S
solicitatora Caldari The Minutemen Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2010.03.01 20:57:00 - [11] please folks read the whole introduction to the thread. This is not a flaming thread I want people to give me their true feelings on the matter. Thanks in advanced.
Sapphrine Caldari Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.01 20:57:00 - [12] OP, I agree this thread needs a lock. Please go back and re-read the history of u'k, the history in providence and then come back with a constructive post if that is truly your goal. Literally nothing you've posted has been factually accurate in anything more than generalities. U'K are older than CVA U'K have operated NRDS from inception. U'K have more beef with CVA than with the NC :P
Xennith Caldari Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.01 20:58:00 - [13] To be honest with you, thats not flaming, thats disagreement. You asked for honest responses and got them. Pointing out that CVA are not the oldest alliance, or the only NRDS alliance and that UK and CVA have been at war for years (UK have no real history with the NC) is not flaming. I think it would be a shame to lose Providence as a free space area, but I think its unlikely to end up vanishing.
Nur AlHuda Amarr Callide Vulpis	Posted - 2010.03.01 20:59:00 - [14] If the "true nrds" of Ushra would be such a great idea they would not need aaa and atlas couse every carebear would try to put their hands on easy 0.0 and join easy bandwagon. But who wants to have shared intel channels with people who will use that info to kill him. Kinda pointles to ask on route if you dont make it trough alive. Couse Ushra would not lift a finger against the offenders who would be blue to them. Thats the difference between CVA who takes personal responsibility and USHRA does not. From the last news article it is also obvious the idea about slicing providence for atlas renters, aaa and ushra so called true nrds. So even the new nrds would be just a small piece of providence comparing to entire region under CVA and Holder rule.
Borza Slavak Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.01 21:00:00 - [15] Ok, lets point out false assumptions underlying your position. Originally by: solicitatora - I will like to know how the eve community feels now that the last of the true NRDS alliance* seems to be losing ground after so many years?!?!?!?! They're not the only NRDS alliance, simply the most famous. Originally by: solicitatora clearly abuse of power was shown on the southern coalition's part; In which for example, they could've easily move forces north and finish what would be the last great war, per say. Now all eyes are back on the south.... AAA ignored CVA for a long time. Last time they tried to fight a war elsewhere proviblock tried to ninja some systems directly adjacent to AAA's Empire pipe. Strategically it would be unwise of the southern to leave this newly expansionist (Operation Deliverance) proviblock at their backs while fighting elsewhere. Originally by: solicitatora I truly feel that the southern coalition it's acting wrongfully by taking CVA space. They should really grow some marbles, take the time to do some logistics and move their fat arse's to the real enemy. But at this point you can clearly see it's an act of laziness on part of the high command for the southern coalition. As above, they can't leave an untrustworthy neighbour sneaking around their backyard while they want to go party elsewhere. Originally by: solicitatora So sad that greed has poison the minds of the southern bandwagon so quickly, such shame.... ugh Greed? For providence? You're sadly misinformed and/or biased. Take proviganda with a pinch of salt.
Butter Dog Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.01 21:02:00 - [16] Originally by: Sapphrine OP, I agree this thread needs a lock. Please go back and re-read the history of u'k, the history in providence and then come back with a constructive post if that is truly your goal. Literally nothing you've posted has been factually accurate in anything more than generalities. U'K are older than CVA U'K have operated NRDS from inception. U'K have more beef with CVA than with the NC :P RuleoftheBone > and somebody ask sapph to stop "seriouspostin" on caod u mad? ~ ---------- ~bitter dog~ etc
Lykouleon Gallente Trust Doesn't Rust Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.01 21:04:00 - [17] Originally by: solicitatora I will like to know how the eve community feels now that the last of the true NRDS alliance (seeing as I have no recollection whatsoever about EVE history nor its actual politics outside of CAOD) seems to be losing ground after so many years?!?!?!?! No one cares. [/thread] Quote: CCP Mindstar > Sorry - I've completely messed all that up. lets try again
solicitatora Caldari The Minutemen Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2010.03.01 21:04:00 - [18] Originally by: Xennith To be honest with you, thats not flaming, thats disagreement. You asked for honest responses and got them. Pointing out that CVA are not the oldest alliance, or the only NRDS alliance and that UK and CVA have been at war for years (UK have no real history with the NC) is not flaming. I think it would be a shame to lose Providence as a free space area, but I think its unlikely to end up vanishing. thank you for answering part of my question. btw- I never said uk and cva were fighting for years. I personally didn't know who uk was until like a year ago tbh mate. lol I agree would suck to lose providence as a free space area though, and that's the reason I started this thread. thanks c'mon folks I want to see different people posting, I only see UK who are the aggressors. I want to see neutrals tell me what's up?
XavierVE Gallente Reasonable People	Posted - 2010.03.01 21:05:00 - [19] OP: Yup. The fall of Providence is a real shame. It was a great place to get used to 0.0 mechanics without having to do much of anything. Hell, I didn't even diplo anyone in CVA when I went out there, just took out some gear by myself and started ratting, traveling around, practicing avoiding ganks, etc. Never once had a problem with anyone CVA-aligned, just nice people in local. For ol' newbs like me, CVA did a great favor in enforcing NRDS space. While it's unfortunate that CVA is a role-play alliance (ick), it was fortunate that they ran Providence in the way they did for so long. Very beneficial for people coming into the game, a great learning experience and extremely self-less. I never thought I'd be rooting for them... ever, but go Goons and go Northern Coalition.
General Windypops Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.01 21:06:00 - [20] Originally by: Nur AlHuda If the "true nrds" of Ushra would be such a great idea they would not need aaa and atlas couse every carebear would try to put their hands on easy 0.0 and join easy bandwagon. If CVA's NRDS was such a great idea those who benefited from it would have shown up to fight to defend it, and CVAs allies might even have put in an appearance. I agree though, it's terribly mean of people to fight back after CVA tried to steal their space. Twitter:@genrlwindypops
solicitatora Caldari The Minutemen Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2010.03.01 21:09:00 - [21] Originally by: XavierVE OP: Yup. The fall of Providence is a real shame. It was a great place to get used to 0.0 mechanics without having to do much of anything. Hell, I didn't even diplo anyone in CVA when I went out there, just took out some gear by myself and started ratting, traveling around, practicing avoiding ganks, etc. Never once had a problem with anyone CVA-aligned, just nice people in local. For ol' newbs like me, CVA did a great favor in enforcing NRDS space. While it's unfortunate that CVA is a role-play alliance (ick), it was fortunate that they ran Providence in the way they did for so long. Very beneficial for people coming into the game, a great learning experience and extremely self-less. I never thought I'd be rooting for them... ever, but go Goons and go Northern Coalition. Thank you mate! I started out the same way you did. I hope new players still get a chance to that experience. C'MON FOLKS. THIS IS TOO IMPORTANT TO NOT PUT ANY ATTENTION. NEED MOAR, MOAR PEOPLE TELLING WHAT'S UP?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!??!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?
RuleoftheBone Minmatar The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.01 21:10:00 - [22] Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Sapphrine OP, I agree this thread needs a lock. Please go back and re-read the history of u'k, the history in providence and then come back with a constructive post if that is truly your goal. Literally nothing you've posted has been factually accurate in anything more than generalities. U'K are older than CVA U'K have operated NRDS from inception. U'K have more beef with CVA than with the NC :P RuleoftheBone > and somebody ask sapph to stop "seriouspostin" on caod u mad? ~ u? Although U'K have more beef with CVA than with the NC made me feel all dirty n sleazy...kind of like responding to an AWE poster BLAHHHHCHHH Lalala awe awe awe real estate postin yeah. Paging Farnham for more useless additions to this most AWEsome of threads
Nostradamous Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2010.03.01 21:14:00 - [23] Originally by: Butter Dog do you know anything factual about providence, CVA, and UK? go on, throw me a bone Honestly i have to agree with this, go do some research, here ill even point you in a direction http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/UNL/beta2.png
General Windypops Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.01 21:14:00 - [24] Hey guys the OP is simply trying to impartially assess the demand for people to leave CVA alone and stop being meanies. I think we should respect his neutrality and cut him some slack, as I can't help feeling that some of you are just laughing at him. Twitter:@genrlwindypops
solicitatora Caldari The Minutemen Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2010.03.01 21:15:00 - [25] Originally by: RuleoftheBone Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: Sapphrine OP, I agree this thread needs a lock. Please go back and re-read the history of u'k, the history in providence and then come back with a constructive post if that is truly your goal. Literally nothing you've posted has been factually accurate in anything more than generalities. U'K are older than CVA U'K have operated NRDS from inception. U'K have more beef with CVA than with the NC :P RuleoftheBone > and somebody ask sapph to stop "seriouspostin" on caod u mad? ~ u? Although U'K have more beef with CVA than with the NC made me feel all dirty n sleazy...kind of like responding to an AWE poster BLAHHHHCHHH Lalala awe awe awe real estate postin yeah. Paging Farnham for more useless additions to this most AWEsome of threads Thanks for your partial answer, I'm picking up that you feel like a jerk for invading providence in that disagreeing with your alliance motives. Thanks again... NEED MOAR MOAR REPONSES. SORT OF GETTING IRATE AT ONLY UK ANSWERS. LET'S GO FOLKS GET IN FLEET, ERR I MEAN MORE POST!>!>!>!>!
RuleoftheBone Minmatar The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.01 21:19:00 - [26] Originally by: General Windypops Hey guys the OP is simply trying to impartially assess the demand for people to leave CVA alone and stop being meanies. I think we should respect his neutrality and cut him some slack, as I can't help feeling that some of you are just laughing at him. Gosh you are right mate. I totally forgot that CAOD is the place for impartial observations. Bawwwwwwww AWE AWE AWE
Nur AlHuda Amarr Callide Vulpis	Posted - 2010.03.01 21:21:00 - [27] Originally by: General Windypops Originally by: Nur AlHuda If the "true nrds" of Ushra would be such a great idea they would not need aaa and atlas couse every carebear would try to put their hands on easy 0.0 and join easy bandwagon. If CVA's NRDS was such a great idea those who benefited from it would have shown up to fight to defend it, and CVAs allies might even have put in an appearance. I agree though, it's terribly mean of people to fight back after CVA tried to steal their space. Nice how you try to spin it off but it has little dent. First CVA dont forces casual residents to attend opses. (Never. Exception to the rule are Holders who own their own part of providence and are allies to CVA.) Second nobody from holders decided to leave providence or retract CVA support.
Borza Slavak Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.01 21:23:00 - [28] Originally by: General Windypops Hey guys the OP is simply trying to impartially assess the demand for people to leave CVA alone and stop being meanies. I think we should respect his neutrality and cut him some slack, as I can't help feeling that some of you are just laughing at him. I stopped laughing a while ago, it hurt too much.
solicitatora Caldari The Minutemen Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2010.03.01 21:34:00 - [29] The reason UK is not considered a true NRDS alliance like CVA, Because UK always operated under what/with used to be BOB alliance, now known as IT alliance. I know plenty of director alts in UK with bob influence, I would hate to put them out in the open like that with "SHAME". Not until recently that you guys open the door to AAA too btw. So to inform those new players a little of eve politics, UK was what we call a minor alliance "PETS" reason why they were not really put of any importance or considered again a true NRDS alliance. C'MON FOLKS GET IN THIS POST AND TELL ME YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE MATTER, NEW PLAYERS ARE LOSING THEIR ONLY WAY OF LEARNING THE NULL SEC LIFE FOR FREE!!! WITHOUT GIVING ANYTHING IN RETURN TO OTHER ALLIANCES.. THIS IS WAY TOO IMPORTANT AGAIN TO OVERLOOK.. THANKS ALL IN ADVANCED....
RuleoftheBone Minmatar The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.01 21:43:00 - [30] Somebody must be losing access to ratting alt or something. Just be like everyone else and put up your firesales....and go get yer shinebox for the Jita trade

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