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solicitatora
Caldari The Minutemen Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2010.03.01 20:38:00 -
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Please keep this thread strictly civil.
*- I will like to know how the eve community feels now that the last of the true NRDS alliance seems to be losing ground after so many years?!?!?!?!
Please again. only express how you think the EVE community will react to the southern coalition after their taking of providence? good or bad??
clearly abuse of power was shown on the southern coalition's part; In which for example, they could've easily move forces north and finish what would be the last great war, per say. Now all eyes are back on the south....
I will quote myself from a diff post since it all relates anyhow, and note this is only my opinion on the matter.
"shame on UK and the southern coalition for taking out the last of the NRDS alliance. May it curse the game play of you and your friends like it has in the past.
cheers for the awesomeness of gang jumping tactics. Rolling Eyes
-soli"
I truly feel that the southern coalition it's acting wrongfully by taking CVA space. They should really grow some marbles, take the time to do some logistics and move their fat arse's to the real enemy. But at this point you can clearly see it's an act of laziness on part of the high command for the southern coalition.
This is where I tip my hat to the northern coalition. and say good job to you guys for being strong, since they move forces so easily with no hesitation to help their allies. clearly can see who has a better mindset.
So sad that greed has poison the minds of the southern bandwagon so quickly, such shame.... ugh
I hope all of eve turns against you guys like it did not so long ago. Wink
-soli
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.01 20:40:00 -
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Edited by: Butter Dog on 01/03/2010 20:42:42 lol
guess what
they're not the only NRDS alliance in the game 
and the southern coalition aren't trying to 'take providence'
your whole post is just awful... worse than my usual coad output, and thats p bad ----------
~bitter dog~
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Dek Kato
Amarr Delusions of Mediocrity
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Posted - 2010.03.01 20:45:00 -
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I'm sorry, you seem to be confused about the meaning of "true NRDS". NRDS means that YOUR alliance will not engage neutrals, it means nothing about what others do in your space. CVA operates a modified version, forcing NRDS on everyone in their space (rather unsuccesfully). U'K will likely operate true NRDS. I for one look forward to Providence becoming TRUE NRDS.
Also, greed is what led CVA to stupidly attack a much larger neutral party, therefor leading to this downfall. So, fail.
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Borza Slavak
Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.01 20:46:00 -
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Confirming that Ushra'Khan are only fighting CVA because we're too lazy to go attack the NC, our real enemy.
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solicitatora
Caldari The Minutemen Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2010.03.01 20:47:00 -
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they're the oldest, and the only one recognize in the EVE community as NRDS. But anyhow, I would politely listen to your opinion if you have one that's productive to my question in the matter.
I don't want to divert my attention. thanks....
So please folks out there, don't be embarrass to tells us what/how you think the EVE community will react to this change in providence???
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Adeptus mecanicus
Caldari The Flaming Sideburn's Fuzzy Nut Attack Squirrels
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Posted - 2010.03.01 20:47:00 -
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Dude they Invaded -A- first and they border to -A- space, where is the logic in moving your fleet north and ignoring a attack on your back yard?
shure NRDS is a nifty thing but hardly can -A- feel ashamed of current affairs considering they even offerd a settlement with CVA but CVA refused
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.01 20:49:00 -
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Originally by: solicitatora they're the oldest, and the only one recognize in the EVE community as NRDS.
wrong
and wrong 
do you know anything factual about providence, CVA, and UK? go on, throw me a bone ----------
~bitter dog~
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solicitatora
Caldari The Minutemen Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2010.03.01 20:52:00 -
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Originally by: Dek Kato I'm sorry, you seem to be confused about the meaning of "true NRDS". NRDS means that YOUR alliance will not engage neutrals, it means nothing about what others do in your space. CVA operates a modified version, forcing NRDS on everyone in their space (rather unsuccesfully). U'K will likely operate true NRDS. I for one look forward to Providence becoming TRUE NRDS.
Also, greed is what led CVA to stupidly attack a much larger neutral party, therefor leading to this downfall. So, fail.
thanks for answering and giving me your honest response.
The other UK guys seem to be flaming me, After I politely asked to be civil. It's only normal for someone to defend if feeling threaten.
I will most than likely be forced to find an operator lock some responses since people have no moderation for players like myself while posting.
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RuleoftheBone
Minmatar The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.01 20:55:00 -
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Intrepid Crossing.
Yuck.
:insertlarkimage:
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Megan Maynard
Minmatar Clown Punchers. Clown Punchers Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.03.01 20:56:00 -
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UK are just upset they have to borrow space from AAA in order to have "space".....
Originally by: F'nog
Originally by: Stareatthesun No no no ... Polaris is where CCP keeps the death star that will destroy eve when the servers shut down.
Thankfully I've got Interceptors trained to V. S
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solicitatora
Caldari The Minutemen Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2010.03.01 20:57:00 -
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please folks read the whole introduction to the thread. This is not a flaming thread I want people to give me their true feelings on the matter.
Thanks in advanced.
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Sapphrine
Caldari Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.01 20:57:00 -
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OP, I agree this thread needs a lock. Please go back and re-read the history of u'k, the history in providence and then come back with a constructive post if that is truly your goal. Literally nothing you've posted has been factually accurate in anything more than generalities.
U'K are older than CVA U'K have operated NRDS from inception. U'K have more beef with CVA than with the NC :P
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Xennith
Caldari Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.01 20:58:00 -
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To be honest with you, thats not flaming, thats disagreement.
You asked for honest responses and got them. Pointing out that CVA are not the oldest alliance, or the only NRDS alliance and that UK and CVA have been at war for years (UK have no real history with the NC) is not flaming.
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Nur AlHuda
Amarr Callide Vulpis
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Posted - 2010.03.01 20:59:00 -
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If the "true nrds" of Ushra would be such a great idea they would not need aaa and atlas couse every carebear would try to put their hands on easy 0.0 and join easy bandwagon.
But who wants to have shared intel channels with people who will use that info to kill him. Kinda pointles to ask on route if you dont make it trough alive. Couse Ushra would not lift a finger against the offenders who would be blue to them.
Thats the difference between CVA who takes personal responsibility and USHRA does not. From the last news article it is also obvious the idea about slicing providence for atlas renters, aaa and ushra so called true nrds. So even the new nrds would be just a small piece of providence comparing to entire region under CVA and Holder rule.
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Borza Slavak
Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.01 21:00:00 -
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Ok, lets point out false assumptions underlying your position.
Originally by: solicitatora *- I will like to know how the eve community feels now that the last of the true NRDS alliance seems to be losing ground after so many years?!?!?!?!
They're not the only NRDS alliance, simply the most famous.
Originally by: solicitatora clearly abuse of power was shown on the southern coalition's part; In which for example, they could've easily move forces north and finish what would be the last great war, per say. Now all eyes are back on the south....
AAA ignored CVA for a long time. Last time they tried to fight a war elsewhere proviblock tried to ninja some systems directly adjacent to AAA's Empire pipe. Strategically it would be unwise of the southern to leave this newly expansionist (Operation Deliverance) proviblock at their backs while fighting elsewhere.
Originally by: solicitatora I truly feel that the southern coalition it's acting wrongfully by taking CVA space. They should really grow some marbles, take the time to do some logistics and move their fat arse's to the real enemy. But at this point you can clearly see it's an act of laziness on part of the high command for the southern coalition.
As above, they can't leave an untrustworthy neighbour sneaking around their backyard while they want to go party elsewhere.
Originally by: solicitatora So sad that greed has poison the minds of the southern bandwagon so quickly, such shame.... ugh
Greed? For providence? 
You're sadly misinformed and/or biased. Take proviganda with a pinch of salt.
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.01 21:02:00 -
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Originally by: Sapphrine OP, I agree this thread needs a lock. Please go back and re-read the history of u'k, the history in providence and then come back with a constructive post if that is truly your goal. Literally nothing you've posted has been factually accurate in anything more than generalities.
U'K are older than CVA U'K have operated NRDS from inception. U'K have more beef with CVA than with the NC :P
RuleoftheBone > and somebody ask sapph to stop "seriouspostin" on caod
u mad? ~ ----------
~bitter dog~
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Lykouleon
Gallente Trust Doesn't Rust Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.01 21:04:00 -
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Originally by: solicitatora I will like to know how the eve community feels now that the last of the true NRDS alliance (seeing as I have no recollection whatsoever about EVE history nor its actual politics outside of CAOD) seems to be losing ground after so many years?!?!?!?!
No one cares.
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solicitatora
Caldari The Minutemen Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2010.03.01 21:04:00 -
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Originally by: Xennith To be honest with you, thats not flaming, thats disagreement.
You asked for honest responses and got them. Pointing out that CVA are not the oldest alliance, or the only NRDS alliance and that UK and CVA have been at war for years (UK have no real history with the NC) is not flaming.
I think it would be a shame to lose Providence as a free space area, but I think its unlikely to end up vanishing.
thank you for answering part of my question. btw- I never said uk and cva were fighting for years. I personally didn't know who uk was until like a year ago tbh mate. lol
I agree would suck to lose providence as a free space area though, and that's the reason I started this thread. thanks
c'mon folks I want to see different people posting, I only see UK who are the aggressors.
I want to see neutrals tell me what's up?
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XavierVE
Gallente Reasonable People
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Posted - 2010.03.01 21:05:00 -
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OP: Yup.
The fall of Providence is a real shame. It was a great place to get used to 0.0 mechanics without having to do much of anything. Hell, I didn't even diplo anyone in CVA when I went out there, just took out some gear by myself and started ratting, traveling around, practicing avoiding ganks, etc. Never once had a problem with anyone CVA-aligned, just nice people in local. For ol' newbs like me, CVA did a great favor in enforcing NRDS space. While it's unfortunate that CVA is a role-play alliance (ick), it was fortunate that they ran Providence in the way they did for so long. Very beneficial for people coming into the game, a great learning experience and extremely self-less.
I never thought I'd be rooting for them... ever, but go Goons and go Northern Coalition.
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General Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.01 21:06:00 -
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Originally by: Nur AlHuda If the "true nrds" of Ushra would be such a great idea they would not need aaa and atlas couse every carebear would try to put their hands on easy 0.0 and join easy bandwagon.
If CVA's NRDS was such a great idea those who benefited from it would have shown up to fight to defend it, and CVAs allies might even have put in an appearance.
I agree though, it's terribly mean of people to fight back after CVA tried to steal their space.
Twitter:@genrlwindypops
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solicitatora
Caldari The Minutemen Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2010.03.01 21:09:00 -
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Originally by: XavierVE OP: Yup.
The fall of Providence is a real shame. It was a great place to get used to 0.0 mechanics without having to do much of anything. Hell, I didn't even diplo anyone in CVA when I went out there, just took out some gear by myself and started ratting, traveling around, practicing avoiding ganks, etc. Never once had a problem with anyone CVA-aligned, just nice people in local. For ol' newbs like me, CVA did a great favor in enforcing NRDS space. While it's unfortunate that CVA is a role-play alliance (ick), it was fortunate that they ran Providence in the way they did for so long. Very beneficial for people coming into the game, a great learning experience and extremely self-less. I never thought I'd be rooting for them... ever, but go Goons and go Northern Coalition.
Thank you mate!
I started out the same way you did.
I hope new players still get a chance to that experience.
C'MON FOLKS. THIS IS TOO IMPORTANT TO NOT PUT ANY ATTENTION.
NEED MOAR, MOAR PEOPLE TELLING WHAT'S UP?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!??!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?
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RuleoftheBone
Minmatar The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.01 21:10:00 -
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Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Sapphrine OP, I agree this thread needs a lock. Please go back and re-read the history of u'k, the history in providence and then come back with a constructive post if that is truly your goal. Literally nothing you've posted has been factually accurate in anything more than generalities.
U'K are older than CVA U'K have operated NRDS from inception. U'K have more beef with CVA than with the NC :P
RuleoftheBone > and somebody ask sapph to stop "seriouspostin" on caod
u mad? ~
u?
Although U'K have more beef with CVA than with the NC made me feel all dirty n sleazy...kind of like responding to an AWE poster BLAHHHHCHHH
Lalala awe awe awe real estate postin yeah.
Paging Farnham for more useless additions to this most AWEsome of threads 
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Nostradamous
Caldari Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.01 21:14:00 -
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Originally by: Butter Dog do you know anything factual about providence, CVA, and UK? go on, throw me a bone
Honestly i have to agree with this, go do some research, here ill even point you in a direction
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/UNL/beta2.png
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General Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.01 21:14:00 -
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Hey guys the OP is simply trying to impartially assess the demand for people to leave CVA alone and stop being meanies. I think we should respect his neutrality and cut him some slack, as I can't help feeling that some of you are just laughing at him.
Twitter:@genrlwindypops
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solicitatora
Caldari The Minutemen Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2010.03.01 21:15:00 -
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Originally by: RuleoftheBone
Originally by: Butter Dog
Originally by: Sapphrine OP, I agree this thread needs a lock. Please go back and re-read the history of u'k, the history in providence and then come back with a constructive post if that is truly your goal. Literally nothing you've posted has been factually accurate in anything more than generalities.
U'K are older than CVA U'K have operated NRDS from inception. U'K have more beef with CVA than with the NC :P
RuleoftheBone > and somebody ask sapph to stop "seriouspostin" on caod
u mad? ~
u?
Although U'K have more beef with CVA than with the NC made me feel all dirty n sleazy...kind of like responding to an AWE poster BLAHHHHCHHH
Lalala awe awe awe real estate postin yeah.
Paging Farnham for more useless additions to this most AWEsome of threads 
Thanks for your partial answer, I'm picking up that you feel like a jerk for invading providence in that disagreeing with your alliance motives. Thanks again...
NEED MOAR MOAR REPONSES. SORT OF GETTING IRATE AT ONLY UK ANSWERS. LET'S GO FOLKS GET IN FLEET, ERR I MEAN MORE POST!>!>!>!>!
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RuleoftheBone
Minmatar The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.01 21:19:00 -
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Originally by: General Windypops Hey guys the OP is simply trying to impartially assess the demand for people to leave CVA alone and stop being meanies. I think we should respect his neutrality and cut him some slack, as I can't help feeling that some of you are just laughing at him.
Gosh you are right mate.
I totally forgot that CAOD is the place for impartial observations.
Bawwwwwwww AWE AWE AWE 
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Nur AlHuda
Amarr Callide Vulpis
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Posted - 2010.03.01 21:21:00 -
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Originally by: General Windypops
Originally by: Nur AlHuda If the "true nrds" of Ushra would be such a great idea they would not need aaa and atlas couse every carebear would try to put their hands on easy 0.0 and join easy bandwagon.
If CVA's NRDS was such a great idea those who benefited from it would have shown up to fight to defend it, and CVAs allies might even have put in an appearance.
I agree though, it's terribly mean of people to fight back after CVA tried to steal their space.
Nice how you try to spin it off but it has little dent.
First CVA dont forces casual residents to attend opses. (Never. Exception to the rule are Holders who own their own part of providence and are allies to CVA.)
Second nobody from holders decided to leave providence or retract CVA support.
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Borza Slavak
Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.01 21:23:00 -
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Originally by: General Windypops Hey guys the OP is simply trying to impartially assess the demand for people to leave CVA alone and stop being meanies. I think we should respect his neutrality and cut him some slack, as I can't help feeling that some of you are just laughing at him.
I stopped laughing a while ago, it hurt too much.
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solicitatora
Caldari The Minutemen Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2010.03.01 21:34:00 -
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The reason UK is not considered a true NRDS alliance like CVA, Because UK always operated under what/with used to be BOB alliance, now known as IT alliance. I know plenty of director alts in UK with bob influence, I would hate to put them out in the open like that with "SHAME".
Not until recently that you guys open the door to AAA too btw. 
So to inform those new players a little of eve politics, UK was what we call a minor alliance "PETS" reason why they were not really put of any importance or considered again a true NRDS alliance.
C'MON FOLKS GET IN THIS POST AND TELL ME YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE MATTER, NEW PLAYERS ARE LOSING THEIR ONLY WAY OF LEARNING THE NULL SEC LIFE FOR FREE!!! WITHOUT GIVING ANYTHING IN RETURN TO OTHER ALLIANCES..
THIS IS WAY TOO IMPORTANT AGAIN TO OVERLOOK.. THANKS ALL IN ADVANCED....
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RuleoftheBone
Minmatar The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.01 21:43:00 -
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Somebody must be losing access to ratting alt or something.
Just be like everyone else and put up your firesales....and go get yer shinebox for the Jita trade 
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Lykouleon
Gallente Trust Doesn't Rust Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.01 21:44:00 -
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Originally by: solicitatora The reason UK is not considered a true NRDS alliance like CVA, Because UK always operated under what/with used to be BOB alliance, now known as IT alliance
...cannot tell if this is a troll or serious-postin'. If its serious, remove yourself from the gene pool (in game) and save us the misery of your pressence.
Quote: THIS IS WAY TOO IMPORTANT AGAIN TO OVERLOOK
As I said...no one cares about Provi. Its a bad region with no true value in the grand scheme. The only reason provi was ever allowed to exist as it did was that the other big-boy alliances didn't want to waste their time cleaning out all the CVA tower-spam and lolRP. Simply, no one gives a flying **** 
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solicitatora
Caldari The Minutemen Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2010.03.01 21:47:00 -
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I wish I would get more responses other than those from UK!!!!!
Since you guys are attacking It's only normal to feel threaten by a post like this. I mean you guys no harm and hope you don't invade cobalt edge for my raising awareness campaign. 
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Borza Slavak
Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.01 21:49:00 -
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Originally by: solicitatora Since you guys are attacking It's only normal to feel threaten by a post like this. I mean you guys no harm and hope you don't invade cobalt edge for my raising awareness campaign. 
New plan guys.
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RuleoftheBone
Minmatar The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.01 21:52:00 -
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Originally by: Borza Slavak
Originally by: solicitatora Since you guys are attacking It's only normal to feel threaten by a post like this. I mean you guys no harm and hope you don't invade cobalt edge for my raising awareness campaign. 
New plan guys.
You out yer mind .
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General Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.01 21:54:00 -
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Edited by: General Windypops on 01/03/2010 21:54:02
Originally by: solicitatora I know plenty of director alts in UK with bob influence, I would hate to put them out in the open like that with "SHAME".
Who?
Twitter:@genrlwindypops
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solicitatora
Caldari The Minutemen Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2010.03.01 21:57:00 -
[36]
Edited by: solicitatora on 01/03/2010 22:01:25 Edited by: solicitatora on 01/03/2010 22:01:06
Originally by: General Windypops Edited by: General Windypops on 01/03/2010 21:54:02
Originally by: solicitatora I know plenty of director alts in UK with bob influence, I would hate to put them out in the open like that with "SHAME".
Who?
sort of beats the point of my quote doesn't?
I welcome my new UK overlords
/me prays, someone "WELP"<--edited us....
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WhiteGirl ShotInHead
Caldari The Dark Horses
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Posted - 2010.03.01 22:04:00 -
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Originally by: Nur AlHuda If the "true nrds" of Ushra would be such a great idea they would not need aaa and atlas couse every carebear would try to put their hands on easy 0.0 and join easy bandwagon.
But who wants to have shared intel channels with people who will use that info to kill him. Kinda pointles to ask on route if you dont make it trough alive. Couse Ushra would not lift a finger against the offenders who would be blue to them.
Thats the difference between CVA who takes personal responsibility and USHRA does not. From the last news article it is also obvious the idea about slicing providence for atlas renters, aaa and ushra so called true nrds. So even the new nrds would be just a small piece of providence comparing to entire region under CVA and Holder rule.
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General Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.01 22:04:00 -
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Originally by: solicitatora Edited by: solicitatora on 01/03/2010 22:01:25 Edited by: solicitatora on 01/03/2010 22:01:06
Originally by: General Windypops Edited by: General Windypops on 01/03/2010 21:54:02
Originally by: solicitatora I know plenty of director alts in UK with bob influence, I would hate to put them out in the open like that with "SHAME".
Who?
sort of beats the point of my quote doesn't?
I welcome my new UK overlords
/me prays, someone "WELP"<--edited us....
I was just curious because you sound fairly knowledgeable and well informed, unlike some of those petty trolls who just make claims like that baselessly.
Twitter:@genrlwindypops
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solicitatora
Caldari The Minutemen Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2010.03.01 22:05:00 -
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Still positively waiting for more responses from people that have possibly gone through the providence experience.Thanks everyone....
POST YOUR THOUGHTS!!!
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Garreck
Gallente Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.01 22:10:00 -
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Oh, c'mon OP. Be realistic.
We in CVA decided to rock the boat to test our sea-legs. -A- rocked back, and our sea-legs were none too strong. Now we've fallen out of the boat and we're splashing around trying not to drown.
This was a natural result. We're not victims here, we entered a conflict with every intention of seeing it through, and now the reality is upon us. They could no more ignore our incursion (or allow it to stand without push-back) than we could accept the offer to be their veggie garden in exchange for keeping our space 
The sandbox is cruel mistress, OP.
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General Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.01 22:11:00 -
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Edited by: General Windypops on 01/03/2010 22:11:31
Originally by: solicitatora Still positively waiting for more responses from people that have possibly gone through the providence experience.Thanks everyone....
POST YOUR THOUGHTS!!!
Don't worry, I'm sure someone will be along in a bit.
Edit: oh, looks like one of them already rocked up. Not sure Soli will like the answer though.
Twitter:@genrlwindypops
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solicitatora
Caldari The Minutemen Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2010.03.01 22:11:00 -
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Originally by: WhiteGirl ShotInHead
Originally by: Nur AlHuda If the "true nrds" of Ushra would be such a great idea they would not need aaa and atlas couse every carebear would try to put their hands on easy 0.0 and join easy bandwagon.
But who wants to have shared intel channels with people who will use that info to kill him. Kinda pointles to ask on route if you dont make it trough alive. Couse Ushra would not lift a finger against the offenders who would be blue to them.
Thats the difference between CVA who takes personal responsibility and USHRA does not. From the last news article it is also obvious the idea about slicing providence for atlas renters, aaa and ushra so called true nrds. So even the new nrds would be just a small piece of providence comparing to entire region under CVA and Holder rule.
bitter CVA pet spotted...
Obviously you're far beyond the level of game play you think you are. lolz what a insignificant muppet... true fact!!!
muppets << pets, at least they can roam around their selected space.
If you don't like the video, I have slides. 
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boliano
Caldari Archangels Assault Force Sinful Transgression
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Posted - 2010.03.01 22:14:00 -
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Edited by: boliano on 01/03/2010 22:15:51 Edited by: boliano on 01/03/2010 22:15:17 Ok forgive me if im wrong but wasnt it CVA that took aaa space first? So please tell me how it is that UK and AAA are cowards? They simply fought back against an entity that tried to move in on there space. So i'm sure they will turn there attention to the( as you said real enemy) the Nc soon enough!
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Lord Milton
Caldari GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.03.01 22:21:00 -
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look at that IRC op, didn't we curb stomp you guys last year?
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Lykouleon
Gallente Trust Doesn't Rust Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.01 22:21:00 -
[45]
Quote: solicitatora - Created 2009.10.18 23:31
Intrepid Crossing, please get a hold on your pubby posters. They're making you look bad.
Quote: CCP Mindstar > Sorry - I've completely messed all that up. lets try again
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solicitatora
Caldari The Minutemen Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2010.03.01 22:24:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Garreck Oh, c'mon OP. Be realistic.
We in CVA decided to rock the boat to test our sea-legs. -A- rocked back, and our sea-legs were none too strong. Now we've fallen out of the boat and we're splashing around trying not to drown.
This was a natural result. We're not victims here, we entered a conflict with every intention of seeing it through, and now the reality is upon us. They could no more ignore our incursion (or allow it to stand without push-back) than we could accept the offer to be their veggie garden in exchange for keeping our space 
The sandbox is cruel mistress, OP.
mate, It doesn't matter you get a slap on the wrist, and -A- goes on business as usual. they don't hand it over to UK. -A- out of all alliances, and talking about some of their corps that have been in game for so long should know how cva holding providence is of such importance until whenever.
Again such great shame on the southern coalition that you have even killed morale within CVA.
You have created an eternal enemy on my side, and have finally helped me decide my long undecided question "which side to join finally indefinetly in this great null sec war.
Death to IT and the southern pets!!!!  
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General Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.01 22:27:00 -
[47]
Since this thread appears to be about nostalgic recollections of former NRDS alliances I'd cast my vote for CFS. At its time it was one of the most innovative 'alliances' in the game - a nightmare for us to administer given the lack of ingame tools, but a hugely ambitious project.
Miss the original Teister owner, and some of the other guys there (SmallGreenBlur's original owner etc).
Twitter:@genrlwindypops
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Malice Takashima
Caldari Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.01 22:34:00 -
[48]
Edited by: Malice Takashima on 01/03/2010 22:35:08 UK starts to be the new Goonswarm on CAOD...
So much chestbeating, so many posts...
Since it's -A- that achieved this, please at least don't behave like you singlehandedly defeated the rest of the universe... Reminds me of a saying
"we're sailin' " - a sh*t smeared on the bottom of Titanic said proudly
And, this is just my personal point of view, I started my 0.0 voyage in Providence, and I am grateful to CVA for the opportunity. Attacking -A- when they were fighting Goons was outright stupid. So was allying yourself with Goons TBH.
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solicitatora
Caldari The Minutemen Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2010.03.01 22:41:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Malice Takashima UK starts to be the new Goonswarm on CAOD...
So much chestbeating, so many posts...
Since it's -A- that achieved this, please at least don't behave like you singlehandedly defeated the rest of the universe... Reminds me of a saying
"we're sailin' " - a **** smeared on the bottom of Titanic said proudly
And, this is just my personal point of view, I started my 0.0 voyage in Providence, and I am grateful to CVA for the opportunity. Attacking -A- when they were fighting Goons was outright stupid. So was allying yourself with Goons TBH.
Thanks for posting a response.
Pardon my usage of your quote, but it's a great example to ask why are such whining children given such space anyhow these days? It was before that you had character as a group and people liked you, cause of it you had space. I hope we never lose that as ops.
btw- since -A- is running providence, and monitoring this I hope(LOLz) who's in charge over there??? I would like to pay a settlement for CVA to hold their space. contact me via eve-mail seriously or I will make my own contacts soonish . Thanks....
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Garreck
Gallente Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.01 22:44:00 -
[50]
Originally by: solicitatora mate, It doesn't matter you get a slap on the wrist, and -A- goes on business as usual. they don't hand it over to UK. -A- out of all alliances, and talking about some of their corps that have been in game for so long should know how cva holding providence is of such importance until whenever.
Again such great shame on the southern coalition that you have even killed morale within CVA.
Our morale is not so low that we would rather hold onto our space at the mere pity of outsiders, to be honest.
There are no "slaps on the wrist" in Eve. If you make a move, you'd better be able to back it up. Years ago when ISS tried to place towers in space that we did not have sov in but nonetheless "claimed," we were expected to shut up and color. Instead we declared war on ISS and the towers were removed. This time we were the aggressors that couldn't back up our aggression.
That's Eve. Alliances losing space, being assumed marginalized, and then returning is also part of Eve. We've no intention of just going away forever and always. There's nothing can be lost in Eve that can't be regained...look what U'K is doing.
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General Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.01 22:46:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Malice Takashima Edited by: Malice Takashima on 01/03/2010 22:35:08 UK starts to be the new Goonswarm on CAOD...
So much chestbeating, so many posts...
Since it's -A- that achieved this, please at least don't behave like you singlehandedly defeated the rest of the universe... Reminds me of a saying
"we're sailin' " - a sh*t smeared on the bottom of Titanic said proudly
And, this is just my personal point of view, I started my 0.0 voyage in Providence, and I am grateful to CVA for the opportunity. Attacking -A- when they were fighting Goons was outright stupid. So was allying yourself with Goons TBH.
You're clearly not aware of the fact that some of our directors have influence with IT leadership, or you would not have posted something so nasty and vicious.
Twitter:@genrlwindypops
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solicitatora
Caldari The Minutemen Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2010.03.01 22:49:00 -
[52]
Originally by: General Windypops
Originally by: Malice Takashima Edited by: Malice Takashima on 01/03/2010 22:35:08 UK starts to be the new Goonswarm on CAOD...
So much chestbeating, so many posts...
Since it's -A- that achieved this, please at least don't behave like you singlehandedly defeated the rest of the universe... Reminds me of a saying
"we're sailin' " - a sh*t smeared on the bottom of Titanic said proudly
And, this is just my personal point of view, I started my 0.0 voyage in Providence, and I am grateful to CVA for the opportunity. Attacking -A- when they were fighting Goons was outright stupid. So was allying yourself with Goons TBH.
You're clearly not aware of the fact that some of our directors have influence with IT leadership, or you would not have posted something so nasty and vicious.
mate, threat by fear doesn't work all the time!!!!!
lolz angry little muppet....
I'm loling hard..
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Lilan Kahn
Amarr The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.01 22:49:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Malice Takashima Edited by: Malice Takashima on 01/03/2010 22:46:42 Edited by: Malice Takashima on 01/03/2010 22:35:08 UK starts to be the new Goonswarm on CAOD...
So much chestbeating, so many posts...
Since it's -A- that achieved this, please at least don't behave like you singlehandedly defeated the rest of the universe...
Reminds me of a saying
"we're sailin' - a sh*t smeared on the bottom of Titanic said proudly"
And, this is just my personal point of view, I started my 0.0 voyage in Providence, and I am grateful to CVA for the opportunity.
Attacking -A- when they were fighting Goons was outright stupid.
So was allying with Goons TBH.
ban all 2007 pubbies
fofofofofo power to the swarm!!
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Lightbringer
Minmatar The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.01 22:52:00 -
[54]
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D3rg3
Minmatar Alpann Siad Anam
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Posted - 2010.03.01 22:54:00 -
[55]
Originally by: solicitatora
The other UK guys seem to be flaming me, After I politely asked to be civil.
troll or idiot, doesn't matter
U'K is also NRDS U'K is oldest continuous alliance in the game
your facts are wrong and you choose to be ignorant
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solicitatora
Caldari The Minutemen Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2010.03.01 22:58:00 -
[56]
Edited by: solicitatora on 01/03/2010 22:59:28
Originally by: Garreck
Originally by: solicitatora mate, It doesn't matter you get a slap on the wrist, and -A- goes on business as usual. they don't hand it over to UK. -A- out of all alliances, and talking about some of their corps that have been in game for so long should know how cva holding providence is of such importance until whenever.
Again such great shame on the southern coalition that you have even killed morale within CVA.
Our morale is not so low that we would rather hold onto our space at the mere pity of outsiders, to be honest.
There are no "slaps on the wrist" in Eve. If you make a move, you'd better be able to back it up. Years ago when ISS tried to place towers in space that we did not have sov in but nonetheless "claimed," we were expected to shut up and color. Instead we declared war on ISS and the towers were removed. This time we were the aggressors that couldn't back up our aggression.
That's Eve. Alliances losing space, being assumed marginalized, and then returning is also part of Eve. We've no intention of just going away forever and always. There's nothing can be lost in Eve that can't be regained...look what U'K is doing.
Bud, I remember an old alliance long gone now; I asked the holder(controller of last remaining assets) at the end of the war we had lost baby titan, all of HC went afk or gone. I asked him "why not run fack it all you know...", he said you fight until the end. guess it stuck with me to the heart after all those years....lol
good luck meng, and keep on popping those pesky red thingies in your overview, never stop...ever, ever,ever, for ever, ever...for evar, evar? lolz
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solicitatora
Caldari The Minutemen Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2010.03.01 23:03:00 -
[57]
Originally by: D3rg3
Originally by: solicitatora
The other UK guys seem to be flaming me, After I politely asked to be civil.
troll or idiot, doesn't matter
U'K is also NRDS U'K is oldest continuous alliance in the game
your facts are wrong and you choose to be ignorant
what you guys are doing is wrong, and, I'm letting people know of your intentions you silly little muppet.
you don't deserve anything given to you. you have not proven anything at all, so go crawl back under the rock you been the last 3 years...kty 
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General Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.01 23:09:00 -
[58]
I don't get the rules of this thread :(
He says he want any or all views and to play nice, then he keeps being mean to us and calling us muppets when we do. It's like he's saying "touuuch meeeeee"... "DON'T TOUCH ME"... "touuuuchchhh meeeeeee"... "DON'T TOUCH ME".
Oh god I don't know what to do or how to make him like me :(
Twitter:@genrlwindypops
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Lilan Kahn
Amarr The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.01 23:12:00 -
[59]
Originally by: solicitatora
Originally by: D3rg3
Originally by: solicitatora
The other UK guys seem to be flaming me, After I politely asked to be civil.
troll or idiot, doesn't matter
U'K is also NRDS U'K is oldest continuous alliance in the game
your facts are wrong and you choose to be ignorant
what you guys are doing is wrong, and, I'm letting people know of your intentions you silly little muppet.
you don't deserve anything given to you. you have not proven anything at all, so go crawl back under the rock you been the last 3 years...kty 
u mad?
the russian overlords not feeding you enough drone crap?
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Nagapito
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.01 23:13:00 -
[60]
For someone who started to know so little about CVA/UK history and asked for civil opinions you ended to know a LOT of stuff about UK and CVA (most of them just strange stuff...) and showing a lot of rage against UK!!!
What would you expect from this post? A public protest from all eve comunity against a retaliation war?
Why dont you post with your main so we all could understand your tears?!? Yes, I dont beleive a four month player has so much rage against us unless its a alt!
Funny that CVA player has a alt on IRC alliance! Once a bear, always a bear!
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solicitatora
Caldari The Minutemen Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2010.03.01 23:21:00 -
[61]
C'MON FOLKS, NEED MORE RESPONSES. WE'VE DIVERTED SOME OF TOPIC, BUT NOW WE'RE TANNED, WE'RE RESTED, AND READY TO GIVE THESE OLD CAOD FORUMS A WEDGIEEEEEEEEE AGAIN....
ARE YOU WITH ME BOYS?? A LITTLE LOUDER?
EVE-ONLINE PHD THESIS question:
-SHOULD UK BE GIVEN FREE CVA SPACE FOR THEIR GREAT EFFORTS IN THE GREAT WARS OF THE PAST.
A) FACK NO B} FACK THE HELL NOES C) THEY HAVE TO FIGHT A BIT MORE D) SPY DIRECTOR ALT SHOULD DISBAND ALLIANCE FOR CURRENT ACTIONS IN PROVIDENCE. E) ALL OF EVE INVADES UK, AAA, IT FOR ALLOWING SUCH TREACHERY ACTIONS F) GIVE UK A BREAK MAN, THEY EARNED NADA... G) FACK THE HELL NOES, HECK NO FOR ****ZLE LOLZ (GOD, WHAT IS WRONG WITH OP) J) THEY HAVE TO KICK ALL THE TINY ALLIANCES REVOLVING IN THE OUTSKIRTS OF CURSE AND GREAT WILDLANDS. k) THIS IS THE HARDEST MULTIPLE CHOICE QUESTION EVER? L) AGAIN, HELL THE FACK NOES SPACE FOR UK IN PROVIDENCE.
SELECT ALL THAT APPLY: (ENTER HERE)
lolZ
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Nagapito
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.01 23:24:00 -
[62]
I vote B
We dont want it for free! We want to fight for it!!!
Sadly, CVA disagrees....
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General Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.01 23:26:00 -
[63]
He was an ok troll for a but but he got overexcited in his last two or three posts. I' rate him as a levle 3 - shadow hawk.
Twitter:@genrlwindypops
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Lilan Kahn
Amarr The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.01 23:26:00 -
[64]
Originally by: solicitatora C'MON FOLKS, NEED MORE RESPONSES. WE'VE DIVERTED SOME OF TOPIC, BUT NOW WE'RE TANNED, WE'RE RESTED, AND READY TO GIVE THESE OLD CAOD FORUMS A WEDGIEEEEEEEEE AGAIN....
ARE YOU WITH ME BOYS?? A LITTLE LOUDER?
EVE-ONLINE PHD THESIS question:
-SHOULD UK BE GIVEN FREE CVA SPACE FOR THEIR GREAT EFFORTS IN THE GREAT WARS OF THE PAST.
A) FACK NO B} FACK THE HELL NOES C) THEY HAVE TO FIGHT A BIT MORE D) SPY DIRECTOR ALT SHOULD DISBAND ALLIANCE FOR CURRENT ACTIONS IN PROVIDENCE. E) ALL OF EVE INVADES UK, AAA, IT FOR ALLOWING SUCH TREACHERY ACTIONS F) GIVE UK A BREAK MAN, THEY EARNED NADA... G) FACK THE HELL NOES, HECK NO FOR ****ZLE LOLZ (GOD, WHAT IS WRONG WITH OP) J) THEY HAVE TO KICK ALL THE TINY ALLIANCES REVOLVING IN THE OUTSKIRTS OF CURSE AND GREAT WILDLANDS. k) THIS IS THE HARDEST MULTIPLE CHOICE QUESTION EVER? L) AGAIN, HELL THE FACK NOES SPACE FOR UK IN PROVIDENCE.
SELECT ALL THAT APPLY: (ENTER HERE)
lolZ
y so mad?
mommy dosnt love you?
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bournville
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.01 23:27:00 -
[65]
I AM TOASTING IN EPIC BREAD
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solicitatora
Caldari The Minutemen Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2010.03.01 23:29:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Lilan Kahn
Originally by: solicitatora C'MON FOLKS, NEED MORE RESPONSES. WE'VE DIVERTED SOME OF TOPIC, BUT NOW WE'RE TANNED, WE'RE RESTED, AND READY TO GIVE THESE OLD CAOD FORUMS A WEDGIEEEEEEEEE AGAIN....
ARE YOU WITH ME BOYS?? A LITTLE LOUDER?
EVE-ONLINE PHD THESIS question:
-SHOULD UK BE GIVEN FREE CVA SPACE FOR THEIR GREAT EFFORTS IN THE GREAT WARS OF THE PAST.
A) FACK NO B} FACK THE HELL NOES C) THEY HAVE TO FIGHT A BIT MORE D) SPY DIRECTOR ALT SHOULD DISBAND ALLIANCE FOR CURRENT ACTIONS IN PROVIDENCE. E) ALL OF EVE INVADES UK, AAA, IT FOR ALLOWING SUCH TREACHERY ACTIONS F) GIVE UK A BREAK MAN, THEY EARNED NADA... G) FACK THE HELL NOES, HECK NO FOR ****ZLE LOLZ (GOD, WHAT IS WRONG WITH OP) J) THEY HAVE TO KICK ALL THE TINY ALLIANCES REVOLVING IN THE OUTSKIRTS OF CURSE AND GREAT WILDLANDS. k) THIS IS THE HARDEST MULTIPLE CHOICE QUESTION EVER? L) AGAIN, HELL THE FACK NOES SPACE FOR UK IN PROVIDENCE.
SELECT ALL THAT APPLY: (ENTER HERE)
lolZ
y so mad?
mommy dosnt love you?
pardon the capital letter folks, I had to scream over all the UK folks invading my post.
go away you pesky flies. true fact - flies eat only the leftover trash... lolZ
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Lilan Kahn
Amarr The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.01 23:37:00 -
[67]
:protip:
this is our corp forum get out pubbie
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Lykouleon
Gallente Trust Doesn't Rust Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.01 23:38:00 -
[68]
Originally by: solicitatora EVE-ONLINE PHD THESIS question
As the head of your thesis review comitee, I can confirm that we will fail you and send you back to pre-k.
Originally by: General Windypops Oh god I don't know what to do or how to make him like me :(
i like you windy, aren't i enough? 
Quote: CCP Mindstar > Sorry - I've completely messed all that up. lets try again
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Tar Ecthelion
Caldari The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.01 23:45:00 -
[69]
Originally by: General Windypops Since this thread appears to be about nostalgic recollections of former NRDS alliances I'd cast my vote for CFS. At its time it was one of the most innovative 'alliances' in the game - a nightmare for us to administer given the lack of ingame tools, but a hugely ambitious project.
Miss the original Teister owner, and some of the other guys there (SmallGreenBlur's original owner etc).
/me sheds a tear for the old CFS, miss the old days  ....
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solicitatora
Caldari The Minutemen Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2010.03.02 00:12:00 -
[70]
C'MON FOLKS GET IN THIS POST AND TELL ME YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE MATTER, NEW PLAYERS ARE LOSING THEIR ONLY WAY OF LEARNING THE NULL SEC LIFE FOR FREE!!! WITHOUT GIVING ANYTHING IN RETURN TO OTHER ALLIANCES..
THIS IS WAY TOO IMPORTANT AGAIN TO OVERLOOK.. THANKS ALL IN ADVANCED....
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Lilan Kahn
Amarr The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.02 00:18:00 -
[71]
Originally by: solicitatora C'MON FOLKS GET IN THIS POST AND TELL ME YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE MATTER, NEW PLAYERS ARE LOSING THEIR ONLY WAY OF LEARNING THE NULL SEC LIFE FOR FREE!!! WITHOUT GIVING ANYTHING IN RETURN TO OTHER ALLIANCES..
THIS IS WAY TOO IMPORTANT AGAIN TO OVERLOOK.. THANKS ALL IN ADVANCED....
qouteing this for lulz course its hard to get in to corp with less than 2 months in game, i do surgest they join sons of viagra they have you has drake? open policy on recruiting
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Naughty Spanker
Minmatar Boob Heads Vivisection.
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Posted - 2010.03.02 00:22:00 -
[72]
Somehow U'K drivel manages to be as annoying as Goons' spam, but with a lot more hatred and without the occasional funny post.
It's really sad when you open a CAOD thread and miss Goons.
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Nykitah
Minmatar The Partisan Brigade Republic Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.02 00:24:00 -
[73]
I find it rather halarious that everyone thinks that CVA and their Holders are NRDS, when we've had multiple incidents of their fleets moving down to kill our carebears in our area of space, having borderline pirating tactics of jumping in a bait ship who targets and orbits others with their drones out in order for the neutral party to agress first.
But hey, what does RE-AL know? We're just carebears and don't know what we're doing, according to lonewolfnight. =)
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Lilan Kahn
Amarr The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.02 00:26:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Nykitah I find it rather halarious that everyone thinks that CVA and their Holders are NRDS, when we've had multiple incidents of their fleets moving down to kill our carebears in our area of space, having borderline pirating tactics of jumping in a bait ship who targets and orbits others with their drones out in order for the neutral party to agress first.
But hey, what does RE-AL know? We're just carebears and don't know what we're doing, according to lonewolfnight. =)
there is also severance pirateing and shoting nbsi in providence as well 
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MiLojko
Caldari Paxton Industries Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2010.03.02 00:29:00 -
[75]
Makes me wanna puke when UK is presenting themselves as NRDS alliance. UK isnt NRDS and in my opinion they never were true NRDS alliance. When I was first time in Providence 4 years ago I quickly learned UK definition of NRDS. You have to shoot my enemy or you are my enemy. It was their unprovoked aggression that aligned us with CVA when we never wanted to pick sides in their argument.
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Salastil
Gallente ElitistOps
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Posted - 2010.03.02 00:30:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Lilan Kahn
ban all 2007 pubbies
fofofofofo power to the swarm!!
Hey, you're the pubbie. Anyone who is not a Goon is a pubbie.
I ran a corp of pubbies once, when we played a game of pubbiemon. They did mission running in empire and I took a nice % of isk in taxes.
Good times.
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Lilan Kahn
Amarr The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.02 00:32:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Salastil
Originally by: Lilan Kahn
ban all 2007 pubbies
fofofofofo power to the swarm!!
Hey, you're the pubbie. Anyone who is not a Goon is a pubbie.
I ran a corp of pubbies once, when we played a game of pubbiemon. They did mission running in empire and I took a nice % of isk in taxes.
Good times.
sorry you not a bitter 2003 player aka shut up pubbie and get out
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Yakov Draken
Minmatar Tides Of War
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Posted - 2010.03.02 00:34:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Naughty Spanker Somehow U'K drivel manages to be as annoying as Goons' spam, but with a lot more hatred and without the occasional funny post.
It's really sad when you open a CAOD thread and miss Goons.
I dunno. I think the OP has managed to make the U'K posters look pretty good and I even chuckled at Windy - which is scary. OP is scary bad.
The U'K BoB connection alluded to is perhaps based on a story I heard a few times of U'K losing a group of pvper's to BoB. There were some BoB Minmatar pilots who were pro-U'K and I assumed were some of the pilots in question. Been awhile though so it is all pretty hazy.
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solicitatora
Caldari The Minutemen Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2010.03.02 00:34:00 -
[79]
nice try in diverting the clear message of my topic.
the point is even if CVA tried expanding a bit on -A-, do you honestly think they will kill them?
as for the shootouts in a NRDS region with neuts, I can let it go very easily knowing that if I compared to other places where is NBSI it's worst with a huge PLUS sign in overview, so it was ran very well.
So please I ask the UK people, actually I prohibit you from posting here anymore. you guys have been trying to kill my post since the beginning. so please once again, you've posted enough. I want to hear from other folks. kty 
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Lilan Kahn
Amarr The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.02 00:39:00 -
[80]
Originally by: solicitatora nice try in diverting the clear message of my topic.
the point is even if CVA tried expanding a bit on -A-, do you honestly think they will kill them?
as for the shootouts in a NRDS region with neuts, I can let it go very easily knowing that if I compared to other places where is NBSI it's worst with a huge PLUS sign in overview, so it was ran very well.
So please I ask the UK people, actually I prohibit you from posting here anymore. you guys have been trying to kill my post since the beginning. so please once again, you've posted enough. I want to hear from other folks. kty 
i am on my forum controling your posts
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Lykouleon
Gallente Trust Doesn't Rust Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.02 00:43:00 -
[81]
Originally by: solicitatora I prohibit you from posting here anymore
Since when were you declared overlord of CAOD? 
Re-read Garreck's post. Being probably the only level-headed and decent poster left in CVA, his words are true.
Now excuse me, i'm going to go dance on the remains of the Y-MPWL IHUB.
Quote: CCP Mindstar > Sorry - I've completely messed all that up. lets try again
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RuleoftheBone
Minmatar The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.02 00:47:00 -
[82]
Edited by: RuleoftheBone on 02/03/2010 00:47:20 I am bed going to.
OP is boring now. Actually if op does not like how Provi is going perhaps the awesome might of Intrepid Crossing can come help CVA?
Just sayin 
**edit**fofofofofofofofofofofofo
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solicitatora
Caldari The Minutemen Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2010.03.02 00:56:00 -
[83]
Originally by: RuleoftheBone Edited by: RuleoftheBone on 02/03/2010 00:47:20 I am bed going to.
OP is boring now. Actually if op does not like how Provi is going perhaps the awesome might of Intrepid Crossing can come help CVA?
Just sayin 
**edit**fofofofofofofofofofofofo
cause the might of UK is so strong by themselves. I chuckle at what you guys can do by yourselves? has there been anything you done by yourself really? since incubation? didn't think so...
perhaps you will also try to expand on -A- or even IT and face your doom. unless you go under the uber pet banner of course. don't pull a logofski and and let them dig a 12km butthole for nothing if it hasn't happened already. lolz
I again welcome our new providence overlords/Uber pets
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Kali Shoumei
Gallente British Federation Sleepless Knights Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.02 00:58:00 -
[84]
ok shall give my opinion on this whole mess
cva in providence
i admired them for what they we doing and achieving - they were providing access to 0.0 for those unable to get to or survive elsewhere in 0.0 - hard work for them organising it all and making it work
to be honest i always considered cva to be apart from the world of 0.0 politics - they didn't get involved with sov wars outside of providence and knowone bothered them - so yeah was a good unique place
but
seems the role playing got the better off them and they tried to make a move into the wider world of 0.0, and why? seemed to be arrogance and not alot more. and as a consequence they have in a way betrayed the residents that relyed on them in providence
i dont have any doubts that they brought this on themselves even turning down a peace offer to go back to how things were but was flatly refused all because of arrogance
now cva might not want to back down and lose face and are willing to take the hit of lost space and assets but what about the little guys? they will lose access to ships that they perhaps cant afford to lose
i also think that the timeing of the attacks while tactically sound proved to be well sorta hitting below the belt as it were and strategically insane - specially since aaa had moved to assist cva to defend providence after cva alliance got hacked and disbanded
so as much as i admire what they did - it seems they weren't satisfied with that anymore and wanted to join the sov warfare alliances at which point there claims of peace and goodwill kinda got thrown away and consequently diserved what has befallen them
as for uk well it will be interesting to see what kinda of system they put in place as a nrds entity in providence - i'm under no illusions that it will be as safe as it what when cva were managing things but at the very least it should provide places for neutrals to dock and not be chased down by the residents of the area and even if roaming gangs aren't hunted down with teh same zeal perhaps the reliance on cva is part of the problem and that providence will grow stronger for it
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Motseth
Caldari dLx AAA Citizens
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Posted - 2010.03.02 01:08:00 -
[85]
So CVA declares open war on -A- and now you blame -A- for fighting back? -A- are the greedy alliance when CVA was the one making a greedy opportunistic assault on -A- systems?
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rmfHorus
Gallente AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2010.03.02 02:11:00 -
[86]
we have a caod ban on alliance, unless you are an official voice for IRC so stop pot solicitatora.
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Igoh
Gallente United Terran Industries Chained Reactions
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Posted - 2010.03.02 03:15:00 -
[87]
i have somthing to add. i was a member of cva, i patroled provadace, i attacked reds just like all other members do. i even came to the aid of neuts that were under attack by reds. i reported the presents of uk and all other cva kos. if cva loses this war i will not care what thier attack poicy is i WILL attack uk atlis or what ever current nbsi allance controls provadace as i will never be consided a neut by any of them.
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Lykouleon
Gallente Trust Doesn't Rust Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.02 07:28:00 -
[88]
If i'm such a terribad pet, why doesn't Intrepid Crossing come put me back in my place? 
Quote: CCP Mindstar > Sorry - I've completely messed all that up. lets try again
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RuleoftheBone
Minmatar The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.02 08:00:00 -
[89]
Originally by: rmfHorus we have a caod ban on alliance, unless you are an official voice for IRC so stop pot solicitatora.
Too late....all EvE has now remembered who ya'll are as highlighted by your wayward spewer of sillyness 
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foksieloy
Minmatar Universal Army Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.02 08:35:00 -
[90]
Bumping this for OP, SOMEBODY HAS TO CARE.
Please? Anyone?  _______________________ We come for our people! |

Suitonia
Gallente Genos Occidere Sev3rance
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Posted - 2010.03.02 08:48:00 -
[91]
I thought the OP was a terrible poster, then I read the replies to this thread :cripes: ---
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.02 09:07:00 -
[92]
Originally by: solicitatora
pardon the capital letter folks, I had to scream over all the UK folks invading my post.
go away you pesky flies. true fact - flies eat only the leftover trash... lolZ
I bow before the true masters of Providence: ~IRC~
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~bitter dog~
etc |

Lord Makk
Caldari Trust Doesn't Rust Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.02 09:16:00 -
[93]
Terrible poster reporting in.
Your orders sir ? The Cerbmeister |

Ltd SpacePig
Amarr Consolidated Council Core Factor
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Posted - 2010.03.02 10:15:00 -
[94]
Wow! So many tears from U'K and AAA in here.. buhuuu big bad wolf CVA took 3 system from catch.. what a big threat we are to you. So you took D-G to show your point, good! You got the biggest cap slaughter in the game, but that wasn't enough. Then you gave CVA a peace offer you knew that they never would accept. So you decide to **** Providence because CVA wouldn't bow for you. So now your almost done destroying the one region in this game where newer players could get their first taste of 0.0 before they move on.
The unique thing about providence wasn't that ONE alliance was NRDS, we all enforce NRDS in providence. Thats why newcomers don't have to pay or clear anything with any diplo before they come to providence. They could come out here, get a taste of 0.0, do some pvp, ratting or what ever in peace. What Providence was under CVA is something this game really needs. This is what true NRDS means to me and for providence. No matter what U'K says that will be gone when this war is over. Providence will now become like every other 0.0 region in this game.
And please.. stop with the victim role, your not a victim in this war.. you may not have started this war but should had ended it after D-G no matter what. There is no sane reason behind your actions after D-G.
Cya on the battlefield!  "Carebear gone bad" |

Suitonia
Gallente Genos Occidere Sev3rance
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Posted - 2010.03.02 10:21:00 -
[95]
Don't worry new players can just join Systematic Chaos alliance. They accept 2 week old characters. ---
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McFly
Caldari Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2010.03.02 10:22:00 -
[96]
So CVA should be in Providence becuase they are friendly NRDS...?
No entity in eve is entitled to anything, CVA has it's black marks against it just like any other entity. Now you're on the losing side. So whining about how much eve needs CVA as a justification for CVA's presence in Providence, regardless of their actions and diplomatic choices is a moot point.
More entities should be NRDS imho, however using such as a justification for CVA to keep their space regardless of CVA's Actions is pretty dumb.
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Lord Makk
Caldari Trust Doesn't Rust Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.02 10:28:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Ltd SpacePig Wow! So many tears from people like me in here
You crying about tears while your own flows is simply priceless. The Cerbmeister |

Suitonia
Gallente Genos Occidere Sev3rance
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Posted - 2010.03.02 10:39:00 -
[98]
Don't worry Butter Dog it seems there are quite a few Providence alliances that are worse posters than the ones in your alliance. ---
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Borza Slavak
Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.02 11:00:00 -
[99]
Originally by: rmfHorus we have a caod ban on alliance, unless you are an official voice for IRC so stop pot solicitatora.
Hey, don't be giving Sapphrine any ideas man. If he banned us from CAOD it'd be the worst thing since our incubation.
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bornaa
Minmatar MAGNUZ ONE The Ascendent Dominion
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Posted - 2010.03.02 11:36:00 -
[100]
Originally by: RuleoftheBone Edited by: RuleoftheBone on 01/03/2010 21:47:30 Somebody must be losing access to ratting alt or something.
Just be like everyone else and put up your firesales....and go get yer shinebox for the Jita trade 
**edit**i am molle 
or join a big alliance, rat on their space and feel that by pressing f1 to f8 when you're ordered you to among 1000's of other guys earned you the rights to be ****y on the forum 
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Eskalin
Minmatar Evolution IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.02 12:22:00 -
[101]
CVA is getting what they deserve. they know it and are taking it like men for the most part(and not being all buttsore on the forums) you are doing them a disservice by thinking that they want or need your white knighting.
Originally by: bornaa or join a big alliance, rat on their space and feel that by pressing f1 to f8 when you're ordered you to among 1000's of other guys earned you the rights to be ****y on the forum 
aww poor no name in no name alliance FYI it's just f1 now that ccp has made it easier with grouping. stay bitter. ps. I'm arrogant cause i am better than you.
If babies weren't to be eaten they wouldn't be hibachi sized
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RuleoftheBone
Minmatar The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.02 12:23:00 -
[102]
Originally by: bornaa
Originally by: RuleoftheBone Edited by: RuleoftheBone on 01/03/2010 21:47:30 Somebody must be losing access to ratting alt or something.
Just be like everyone else and put up your firesales....and go get yer shinebox for the Jita trade 
**edit**i am molle 
or join a big alliance, rat on their space and feel that by pressing f1 to f8 when you're ordered you to among 1000's of other guys earned you the rights to be ****y on the forum 
Hahahahahahaha oh boy. Actually last night all I had to do was lift my pinky and press F1 to activate HIC bubble. I got tired of F1-F6 in the ole Tempest :effort:.
As if there is any other way to actually take space .
Trust me...most folks will be quite happy when all the fleet crap is done and those that enjoy small gang stuff can return to it...and afk cloaking etc. Where you live again?

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UVPhoenix2
Gallente Brotherhood of Heart and Steel Iron Heart Brotherhood
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Posted - 2010.03.02 12:33:00 -
[103]
It's called blowback.
I know how you feel. Material of this nature affect us all in different ways. What you need to do is learn from this. And this is just my sig. |

Sapphrine
Caldari Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.02 13:09:00 -
[104]
U'K posters, less trolling, more ignoring. Sure the OP is being a tard but just let his stupidity stand on its 'merit'. 4 pages of drivel does nothing and yes I know, sense in my CAOD etc.
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Lilan Kahn
Amarr The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.02 13:22:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Sapphrine U'K posters, less trolling, more ignoring. Sure the OP is being a tard but just let his stupidity stand on its 'merit'. 4 pages of drivel does nothing and yes I know, sense in my CAOD etc.
go back to igs plx n00b
"Bringing Content to you 1 round of ammo at a time" |

bornaa
Minmatar MAGNUZ ONE The Ascendent Dominion
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Posted - 2010.03.02 16:07:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Eskalin CVA is getting what they deserve. they know it and are taking it like men for the most part(and not being all buttsore on the forums) you are doing them a disservice by thinking that they want or need your white knighting.
Originally by: bornaa or join a big alliance, rat on their space and feel that by pressing f1 to f8 when you're ordered you to among 1000's of other guys earned you the rights to be ****y on the forum 
aww poor no name in no name alliance FYI it's just f1 now that ccp has made it easier with grouping. stay bitter. ps. I'm arrogant cause i am better than you.
did you recognize yourself somewhere in there and it huwt youw wiwl feewings? awww 
maybe if i kiss enough ass i can be a tiny irrelevant, easily replaceable cog in a big alliance like yourself. cant wait! 
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solicitatora
Caldari The Minutemen Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2010.03.02 17:17:00 -
[107]
C'MON FOLKS GET IN THIS POST AND TELL ME YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE MATTER.
NEW PLAYERS ARE LOSING THEIR ONLY WAY OF LEARNING THE NULL SEC LIFE FOR FREE!!! WITHOUT GIVING ANYTHING IN RETURN TO OTHER ALLIANCES..
GETTING VERY GOOD MIXED FEELINGS ABOUT THE WHOLE DILEMMA. KEEP THOSE COMMENTS COMING GUYS....
THIS IS WAY TOO IMPORTANT AGAIN TO OVERLOOK.. THANKS ALL IN ADVANCED....
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Lykouleon
Gallente Trust Doesn't Rust Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.02 17:18:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Lord Makk Your orders sir ?
gb2 making me ISK and stop posting, thats my job 
Quote: CCP Mindstar > Sorry - I've completely messed all that up. lets try again
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Dr Ngo
Amarr Shut Up And Play WE FORM VOLTRON
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Posted - 2010.03.02 17:19:00 -
[109]
Originally by: solicitatora C'MON FOLKS GET IN THIS POST AND TELL ME YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE MATTER.
NEW PLAYERS ARE LOSING THEIR ONLY WAY OF LEARNING THE NULL SEC LIFE FOR FREE!!! WITHOUT GIVING ANYTHING IN RETURN TO OTHER ALLIANCES..
GETTING VERY GOOD MIXED FEELINGS ABOUT THE WHOLE DILEMMA. KEEP THOSE COMMENTS COMING GUYS....
THIS IS WAY TOO IMPORTANT AGAIN TO OVERLOOK.. THANKS ALL IN ADVANCED....
The troll is over. Go home.
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Ba'Rumph
Caldari The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2010.03.02 17:33:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Ltd SpacePig Then you gave CVA a peace offer you knew that they never would accept.
I heard the peace offer was "We'll give you back all your space if you promise not to invade our space again." If CVA couldn't accept that, they deserve to die.
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Ruezer
Gallente Grid Square Removal System
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Posted - 2010.03.02 18:03:00 -
[111]
hey UK...can you hurry and finish what your doing so we can have "friendly" pew pew action again. Your anger towards CVA is not much fun when you blow up my ships
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Sandwich PvP
Caldari The Maverick Navy IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.02 18:20:00 -
[112]
As a disinterested observer I say ... Kill zem, kill zem all.

And to the OP I say: Your own people are telling you to shutup, take their advice.
The only fight worth fighting is the one you should lose. |

Garreck
Gallente Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.02 18:26:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Ba'Rumph
I heard the peace offer was "We'll give you back all your space if you promise not to invade our space again." If CVA couldn't accept that, they deserve to die.
Y'know, it's interesting to read something like this when all anyone ever complains about these days as regards 0.0 in particular is the NIP/NAPfesting, the bandwaggons, blah de blah...
CVA aren't trying to be heroes by refusing to back down even though we know we can't win, but given all the anti NAP/NIP sentiment that goes around one might think people would at least 'get' why we have no desire to feed the NAP/NIP culture. Either we hold space at our whim or we lose space. That's far healthier for the game as a whole than stepping back in line and being just one more potential conflict that will never happen, one more alliance that shouldn't hold space but does anyway.
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solicitatora
Caldari The Minutemen Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2010.03.02 18:28:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Garreck
Originally by: Ba'Rumph
I heard the peace offer was "We'll give you back all your space if you promise not to invade our space again." If CVA couldn't accept that, they deserve to die.
Y'know, it's interesting to read something like this when all anyone ever complains about these days as regards 0.0 in particular is the NIP/NAPfesting, the bandwaggons, blah de blah...
CVA aren't trying to be heroes by refusing to back down even though we know we can't win, but given all the anti NAP/NIP sentiment that goes around one might think people would at least 'get' why we have no desire to feed the NAP/NIP culture. Either we hold space at our whim or we lose space. That's far healthier for the game as a whole than stepping back in line and being just one more potential conflict that will never happen, one more alliance that shouldn't hold space but does anyway.
I totally support this! two thumbs up....
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RuleoftheBone
Minmatar The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.02 18:38:00 -
[115]
Edited by: RuleoftheBone on 02/03/2010 18:43:36
Originally by: bornaa
Drivel
Oh look another one begging for perpetual roaming and cloaking gangs. Where is it the mighty whatever-yer-alliance-name-is hangs out?
I get befuddled trying to find these tiny little ****holes even on Ombey's maps 
**edit**ex-Sylph or something? figures 
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Ba'Rumph
Caldari The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2010.03.02 18:39:00 -
[116]
Originally by: Garreck
Y'know, it's interesting to read something like this when all anyone ever complains about these days as regards 0.0 in particular is the NIP/NAPfesting, the bandwaggons, blah de blah...
CVA aren't trying to be heroes by refusing to back down even though we know we can't win, but given all the anti NAP/NIP sentiment that goes around one might think people would at least 'get' why we have no desire to feed the NAP/NIP culture. Either we hold space at our whim or we lose space. That's far healthier for the game as a whole than stepping back in line and being just one more potential conflict that will never happen, one more alliance that shouldn't hold space but does anyway.
Honestly, I think it's great that you'd rather fight to the death than have boring NAPs. The problem is that so many of your renters seem to think that -A- et al is some sort of uber evil aggressor (ok, they are uber evil, but they aren't the aggressors), when in fact there was a way out for CVA and pets from the get go.
So, if all you want is ~good fights~ while you die, go for it. Just tell your renters this so they can gtfo to empire and not die for your ~good fights~.
CVA has harbored criminals for far too long, and I look forward to them being back where I can shoot them without getting blobbed by you guys.
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Stratio
Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.02 19:07:00 -
[117]
Originally by: Garreck Either we hold space at our whim or we lose space. That's far healthier for the game as a whole than stepping back in line and being just one more potential conflict that will never happen, one more alliance that shouldn't hold space but does anyway.
When CVA was disbanded recently, .-A-. was a very good neighbour to you. Was that wrong of them? Now that you(proviblock) had invaded their space, they gave you a bloody nose in D-G but offered to go back to the relationship you had before. Was that wrong of them? We all enjoy roaming providence and RP aside it would be a shame if that were lost. At the moment you are not even fighting for your space. _____________________
For Tribe and Honour! |

Danny Lonnegan
Caldari 1st Steps Academy Tread Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.02 19:16:00 -
[118]
Edited by: Danny Lonnegan on 02/03/2010 19:23:46
Originally by: Ltd SpacePig Wow! So many tears from U'K and AAA in here.. buhuuu big bad wolf CVA took 3 system from catch.. what a big threat we are to you. So you took D-G to show your point, good! You got the biggest cap slaughter in the game, but that wasn't enough. Then you gave CVA a peace offer you knew that they never would accept. So you decide to **** Providence because CVA wouldn't bow for you. So now your almost done destroying the one region in this game where newer players could get their first taste of 0.0 before they move on.
As a response to the CVA invasion of Catch, burning down Provi is probably overkill. However, it's a lot more than that. Consider:
1) Destroying CVA removes a potential threat to AAA's flank if (when) the next big war between north and south breaks out.
2) Destroying CVA removes a potential staging area for Northern Coalition forces if (when) the next big war between north and south breaks out.
3) Destroying CVA sends a powerful message to all the other small alliances in the south--"Don't play sov games with us."
4) Placing a friendly alliance (U-K) in North Providence essentially opens three new outlets to Empire space (conveniently close to Rens and Amarr, at that) for AAA.
You can't look at the CVA invasion out of context. The Provibloc hit them exactly when they were tied up with the Goons. It doesn't matter if we weren't actually allied with Goonswarm; it showed CVA's willingness to take advantage of AAA when it was distracted by a more dangerous enemy. Not to mention, those empty systems we invaded might not have been very valuable in and of themselves, but they're in striking distance of HED, a critical outlet to Empire space for AAA. Do I think we were actually planning to take HED? No. But that doesn't matter--Provibloc, intentionally or not, changed the game, and AAA is a lot better at this game than we are. If we'd gone after some dead-end systems somewhere unimportant, it might have been different, but we didn't, and it's too late to cry about it now.
I don't particularly like being run out of my home (btw, fire sale in G5! All the cheap T1 crap you've ever wanted at low low prices! Everything must Go! Go! Go!), but if I were AAA, I would be doing exactly the same thing they're doing right now. It makes good strategic sense for them. Boo-hoo-hooing about it on the forum just makes you look like you need your diaper changed.
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Garreck
Gallente Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.02 19:28:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Stratio
When CVA was disbanded recently, .-A-. was a very good neighbour to you. Was that wrong of them?
This keeps getting brought up as if it's at all relevant. It's not. That was a very good thing of -A- to do as we got boned by a EULA breach. After CCP squared everything away, it was game on again and that was clearly understood.
Originally by: Stratio
Now that you(proviblock) had invaded their space, they gave you a bloody nose in D-G but offered to go back to the relationship you had before.
Wrong to offer? Nah, it's a smart move, saves you guys a lot of trouble if we agreed to the terms. Wrong of us to accept? You betcha.
Originally by: Stratio At the moment you are not even fighting for your space.
This is not at all accurate. We're just not fighting the way you'd like to see us fight. Now that's something I know U'K can relate to 
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Ba'Rumph
Caldari The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2010.03.02 19:55:00 -
[120]
Originally by: Garreck
Wrong to offer? Nah, it's a smart move, saves you guys a lot of trouble if we agreed to the terms.
Saves them a lot of trouble if you accept the offer for them to give you back systems they already took?
Originally by: Garreck
Wrong of us to accept? You betcha.
I suppose you didn't want that space anyway.
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Garreck
Gallente Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.02 20:15:00 -
[121]
Originally by: Ba'Rumph
I suppose you didn't want that space anyway.
Make no mistake: we want the space and it sucks to be getting our teeth kicked in. But that's the nature of the game.
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Danny Lonnegan
Caldari 1st Steps Academy Tread Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.02 20:22:00 -
[122]
Originally by: Ba'Rumph
Originally by: Garreck
Wrong to offer? Nah, it's a smart move, saves you guys a lot of trouble if we agreed to the terms.
Saves them a lot of trouble if you accept the offer for them to give you back systems they already took?
I presume he means it would save AAA the trouble of grinding through 50 station systems.
It's actually interesting that AAA made the offer. Presumably, they thought that if CVA promised not to push into Catch again, they'd stick to their word, either out of some sense of honor or because they were afraid of another whipping. Like I said in my tl;dr post above, AAA has good strategic reasons for wanting to see Providence neutralized. There must have been some level of trust in CVA leadership if they were willing to offer a cease-fire when they clearly had the upper hand.
That or they were sure CVA would decline and the cease-fire was a propaganda move.
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SephiXan
Amarr Kiroshi Group death from above..
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Posted - 2010.03.02 20:26:00 -
[123]
I used to fly out in providence a bit back awhile ago, but I didn't like being out there. CVA did very little security on their space so I always referred them to being the weak kid on the block everyone picked on. I mean hell i spent a lot of time seeing people just want to go to Providence for easy kills and when I was out there there was no security.
Only way I can see CVA has kept their space for so long is due to the quality of the systems. So I was actually surprised when i read news of CVA attacking, and I had more respect for them than I used to. And now they're fighting a massive battle. Better than the stagnation they used to run with, so I have to say that CVA made the right choice, be it that they may die oh well. Least they tried to do something.
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Ba'Rumph
Caldari The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2010.03.02 20:27:00 -
[124]
Originally by: Danny Lonnegan I presume he means it would save AAA the trouble of grinding through 50 station systems.
It's actually interesting that AAA made the offer. Presumably, they thought that if CVA promised not to push into Catch again, they'd stick to their word, either out of some sense of honor or because they were afraid of another whipping. Like I said in my tl;dr post above, AAA has good strategic reasons for wanting to see Providence neutralized. There must have been some level of trust in CVA leadership if they were willing to offer a cease-fire when they clearly had the upper hand.
That or they were sure CVA would decline and the cease-fire was a propaganda move.
Yeah I guess. From my experience with CVA, I think they would have honored the deal if they had made it. I understand why CVA didn't want to make the deal, but I also realize that the fact that they didn't make the deal - after pursuing an aggressive expansion policy that backfired - makes them solely guilty of their own and their pets demise and removal from Providence. I just want this obvious fact acknowledged so that the tears from CVA pets can cease. I need them to save those tears for later.
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Jitannya
Caldari BOSS. Industries
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Posted - 2010.03.02 20:51:00 -
[125]
Edited by: Jitannya on 02/03/2010 20:52:03
Originally by: solicitatora Please keep this thread strictly civil.
*- I will like to know how the eve community feels now that the last of the true NRDS alliance seems to be losing ground after so many years?!?!?!?!
Please again. only express how you think the EVE community will react to the southern coalition after their taking of providence? good or bad??
clearly abuse of power was shown on the southern coalition's part; In which for example, they could've easily move forces north and finish what would be the last great war, per say. Now all eyes are back on the south....
I will quote myself from a diff post since it all relates anyhow, and note this is only my opinion on the matter.
"shame on UK and the southern coalition for taking out the last of the NRDS alliance. May it curse the game play of you and your friends like it has in the past.
cheers for the awesomeness of gang jumping tactics. Rolling Eyes
-soli"
I truly feel that the southern coalition it's acting wrongfully by taking CVA space. They should really grow some marbles, take the time to do some logistics and move their fat arse's to the real enemy. But at this point you can clearly see it's an act of laziness on part of the high command for the southern coalition.
This is where I tip my hat to the northern coalition. and say good job to you guys for being strong, since they move forces so easily with no hesitation to help their allies. clearly can see who has a better mindset.
So sad that greed has poison the minds of the southern bandwagon so quickly, such shame.... ugh
I hope all of eve turns against you guys like it did not so long ago. Wink
-soli
Who are you? lol IRC thought you guys got kicked for posting!!
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Danny Lonnegan
Caldari 1st Steps Academy Tread Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.02 20:52:00 -
[126]
Considering how many people in Provi have been affected by this, I don't think there's been all that many tears. There's been some, but you're always going to get a couple whiners. I don't understand it myself (What do they expect? Provi resident: "WAH! It's not fair!" AAA: "By gum, he's right! This isn't fair! Back to Catch, boys, and don't forget to tip your hats on the way out."), but that's life on the Internet.
Could be wrong, though. I'm only on the forums sporadically.
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Stratio
Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.02 22:49:00 -
[127]
Originally by: SephiXan And now they're fighting a massive battle.
I'm still a bit perplexed how little actual fighting there is going on.
Either CVA & friends have given up or they have a cunning master plan up their sleeves.  _____________________
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rmfHorus
Gallente AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2010.03.02 22:55:00 -
[128]
24h and solicitatora is a caod issue no more an irc problem
thx for your attention
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solicitatora
Caldari The Minutemen Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2010.03.03 02:22:00 -
[129]
Bump for the most of epic threads.
C'MON FOLKS, NEED MORE RESPONSES. WE'VE DIVERTED SOME OF TOPIC, BUT NOW WE'RE TANNED, WE'RE RESTED, AND READY TO GIVE THESE OLD CAOD FORUMS A WEDGIEEEEEEEEE AGAIN....
ARE YOU WITH ME BOYS?? A LITTLE LOUDER?
EVE-ONLINE PHD THESIS question:
-SHOULD UK BE GIVEN FREE CVA SPACE FOR THEIR GREAT EFFORTS IN THE GREAT WARS OF THE PAST.
A) FACK NO B} FACK THE HELL NOES C) THEY HAVE TO FIGHT A BIT MORE D) SPY DIRECTOR ALT SHOULD DISBAND ALLIANCE FOR CURRENT ACTIONS IN PROVIDENCE. E) ALL OF EVE INVADES UK, AAA, IT FOR ALLOWING SUCH TREACHERY ACTIONS F) GIVE UK A BREAK MAN, THEY EARNED NADA... G) FACK THE HELL NOES, HECK NO FOR ****ZLE LOLZ (GOD, WHAT IS WRONG WITH OP) J) THEY HAVE TO KICK ALL THE TINY ALLIANCES REVOLVING IN THE OUTSKIRTS OF CURSE AND GREAT WILDLANDS. k) THIS IS THE HARDEST MULTIPLE CHOICE QUESTION EVER? L) AGAIN, HELL THE FACK NOES SPACE FOR UK IN PROVIDENCE.
SELECT ALL THAT APPLY: (ENTER HERE)
C'MON FOLKS GET IN THIS POST AND TELL ME YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE MATTER.
NEW PLAYERS ARE LOSING THEIR ONLY WAY OF LEARNING THE NULL SEC LIFE FOR FREE!!! WITHOUT GIVING ANYTHING IN RETURN TO OTHER ALLIANCES..
GETTING VERY GOOD MIXED FEELINGS ABOUT THE WHOLE DILEMMA. KEEP THOSE COMMENTS COMING GUYS....
THIS IS WAY TOO IMPORTANT AGAIN TO OVERLOOK.. THANKS ALL IN ADVANCED....
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Edible Bandaid
Gallente Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.03.03 03:02:00 -
[130]
Please caps lock.
I dont understand why you are reiterating your questions, as the political field is very simple.
-A- deployed to the west with the goals of hindering goonswarms involvement in defending their northern allies/gaining a foothold for the obvious campaigns to follow.
CVA choose this exact moment to attack -A- Stations systems, pronounce grand campaign (SOmething Deliverence).
Goonswarm thanks CVA for their help and -A-/Allies deployment stalls for multiple reasons, very much including the fact that they are fighting on 2 fronts.
Goonswarm fails as they do.
CVA hides.
CVA dies because it chose to aid the losing side.
UK has promised i believe to keep the area NRDS, so whats the big deal? Other then the pilots that ocupy the space everything will stay the same for those who suggest their "nuetrality." So if you are trully nuetral, shhhhh. ___________________________________ WHHYYYYYY |

Conlin
Gallente Mad Bombers Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.03 03:41:00 -
[131]
He isnt truly nuetral , hence his feet stomping .
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Ba'Rumph
Caldari The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2010.03.03 03:44:00 -
[132]
Nah, he's working hard to try to get people to believe that his threads were some sort of epic troll totally worth getting kicked out of his alliance over and not just whiny failthreads.
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Xpaulusx
Caldari The Centurions Eternus Imperium Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.04 18:02:00 -
[133]
I pretty much learned the 0 sec ropes when i was in CVA. But even back then, you could tell it was falling apart. My old corp soon fled Providence and resettled in empire. In retrospect CVA did fill a role allowing semi new players to experince 0 sec. For whatever reasons, i wish CVA best of luck holding on to there Sovereignty 
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SephiXan
Amarr Kiroshi Group death from above..
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Posted - 2010.03.04 18:54:00 -
[134]
Originally by: Stratio
Originally by: SephiXan And now they're fighting a massive battle.
I'm still a bit perplexed how little actual fighting there is going on.
Either CVA & friends have given up or they have a cunning master plan up their sleeves. 
Well I still have a few friends in the alliance, gotta cheer for the underdogs once inawhile
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Lord Zulu
Amarr The Maverick Navy IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.04 20:19:00 -
[135]
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Jitannya
Caldari BOSS. Industries
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Posted - 2010.03.04 21:00:00 -
[136]
Edited by: Jitannya on 04/03/2010 21:06:50 Edited by: Jitannya on 04/03/2010 21:02:05
Originally by: solicitatora Please keep this thread strictly civil.
*- I will like to know how the eve community feels now that the last of the true NRDS alliance seems to be losing ground after so many years?!?!?!?!
Please again. only express how you think the EVE community will react to the southern coalition after their taking of providence? good or bad??
clearly abuse of power was shown on the southern coalition's part; In which for example, they could've easily move forces north and finish what would be the last great war, per say. Now all eyes are back on the south....
I will quote myself from a diff post since it all relates anyhow, and note this is only my opinion on the matter.
"shame on UK and the southern coalition for taking out the last of the NRDS alliance. May it curse the game play of you and your friends like it has in the past.
cheers for the awesomeness of gang jumping tactics. Rolling Eyes
-soli"
I truly feel that the southern coalition it's acting wrongfully by taking CVA space. They should really grow some marbles, take the time to do some logistics and move their fat arse's to the real enemy. But at this point you can clearly see it's an act of laziness on part of the high command for the southern coalition.
This is where I tip my hat to the northern coalition. and say good job to you guys for being strong, since they move forces so easily with no hesitation to help their allies. clearly can see who has a better mindset.
So sad that greed has poison the minds of the southern bandwagon so quickly, such shame.... ugh
I hope all of eve turns against you guys like it did not so long ago. Wink
-soli
I thought noob corp posting wasnt allowed oh wait..............guess we'll see this toon for sale soon!!
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MiLojko
Caldari Paxton Industries Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2010.03.04 21:04:00 -
[137]
Originally by: Edible Bandaid
CVA choose this exact moment to attack -A- Stations systems,
Quoting this for truth. And UK is NRDS
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Suitonia
Gallente Genos Occidere Sev3rance
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Posted - 2010.03.05 01:20:00 -
[138]
Are people still using that "CVA were working with goons" bull****? lol. Some people are so ******ed. ---
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Sabbat Martyr
Caldari Dark Krystal Magnum Opus.
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Posted - 2010.03.05 01:40:00 -
[139]
Edited by: Sabbat Martyr on 05/03/2010 01:42:27
Originally by: MiLojko
Originally by: Edible Bandaid
CVA choose this exact moment to attack -A- Stations systems,
Quoting this for truth. And UK is NRDS
Props to UK for being NRDS but can people stop this NRDS it crap. It doesn't matter what UK is, the fact is they're not going to police their space, ergo, 0.0 will return to being all hostile, all the time. (Not like it was ever a safe, and friendly place to begin with. CVA at least tried to police it, maybe even succeeded a few times.)
'The views that I express are mine and mine alone. Not my corps', nor my alliance if applicable.'
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silvertree umholtz
Minmatar Priory Of The Lemon Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.05 02:10:00 -
[140]
All I can say is good fight today guys!!!
http://killboard.atlas-alliance.com/?a=kill_related&kll_id=153146
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StainLessStealRat
Caldari Legio V Fidelus Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2010.03.05 04:04:00 -
[141]
Originally by: silvertree umholtz All I can say is good fight today guys!!!
http://killboard.atlas-alliance.com/?a=kill_related&kll_id=153146
GF's today Please re-size your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels. Zymurgist |

cBOLTSON
Caldari Shadow Legion. Talos Coalition
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Posted - 2010.03.05 05:32:00 -
[142]
Edited by: cBOLTSON on 05/03/2010 05:32:21 Im just hoping that 'U'K NRDS' will give players an area that has lots of pvp and a thriving economy. It would be good to spice things up a little.
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Exordium8
Minmatar Dead poets society The Laughing Men
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Posted - 2010.03.05 06:03:00 -
[143]
I want U'K to burn CVA out of Providence with a purifying fire --------------------------------- Pillage, then burn. Everything is air-droppable at least once. There is no 'overkill.' There is only 'open fire' and 'time to reload.
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MiLojko
Caldari Paxton Industries Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2010.03.05 07:00:00 -
[144]
Originally by: Sabbat Martyr Edited by: Sabbat Martyr on 05/03/2010 01:42:27
Originally by: MiLojko
Originally by: Edible Bandaid
CVA choose this exact moment to attack -A- Stations systems,
Quoting this for truth. And UK is NRDS
Props to UK for being NRDS but can people stop this NRDS it crap. It doesn't matter what UK is, the fact is they're not going to police their space, ergo, 0.0 will return to being all hostile, all the time. (Not like it was ever a safe, and friendly place to begin with. CVA at least tried to police it, maybe even succeeded a few times.)
I was trying to be ironic. CVA block did not attack -A- Station systems but has only onlined TCU in four unclaimed systems in Catch. Also UK isnt NRDS for over 2 years now and even before their interpretation of NRDS was just funny. Already explained in post on page 3.
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StukaBee
Minmatar GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.03.05 11:28:00 -
[145]
Originally by: Suitonia Are people still using that "CVA were working with goons" bull****? lol. Some people are so ******ed.
The CVA-Goonsarm alliance is the troll that just keeps on giving.
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CrazyCric
Caldari Lethal Weapons Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.03.07 18:01:00 -
[146]
To add something to the discussion: I am a neutral in Providence. We moved here with our little corp (<10 active members) just a few weeks before this war started. We were glad, the proviblock offers this kind of NRDS. It was not easy to convince every member of our corp to go in 0.0, but the relative security and good profits there made the move to 0.0 easy.
I see this war with mixed feelings: we lost the easy profit, but we are gaining some great experiences. We moved our important assets back to empire, to stay survivable in case whole providence falls. But we try to give something back to the holders (especially -7-) and contribute to the defense. Thats not easy, as we can only maintain a small gang that can't cope with the big fleets, but we try and we have fun.
Personally I wondered how the good relationship between proviblock and -A- was destroyed. My (limited) experience was, that they fought each other in a friendly manner. I know of friendships between -A- and -7- Pilots. They want nice fights, but they don't want to really destroy each other. Fights for sovereignty in their homelands just is not what they want.
I see how this relationship will get destroyed with a spiral of escalation. CVA claimed (unclaimed) sov in some systems in catch. That was a bad thing. -A- took inhabited systems in Providence, that was even worse. Maybe CVA thought it would be fun, to have some sov fights with -A- and picked these unclaimed systems. But without communication I can understand that -A- fights back the way they do.
I would have loved if -A-/U'K and CVA would have chosen some systems for a kind of proxy war. That would fit nice into the RP. Just choose some systems from Providence/Catch and declare them important. Now fight for sovereignty in these systems. These battleground could have been arranged before the actual fighting. I know roleplaying from other games, and good roleplay is mostly arranged. Develop a nice story, why control of these few systems decide the war about slavery. That way you could have thrilling sov warfare without threatening your friendship.
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.07 18:41:00 -
[147]
Originally by: MiLojko Also UK isnt NRDS for over 2 years now and even before their interpretation of NRDS was just funny.
yeah, our version of NRDS is to not shoot people who aren't red
~crazy~
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~bitter dog~
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ginlaaan
Gallente Paxton Industries Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2010.03.07 19:12:00 -
[148]
State what you want and continue to claim NRDS when and if you control all of provi. Its not going to be a reality for you when the number one roamer will be blue to UK. Unless your going to set -A- red your version of NRDS wont work. Spin it how ever you like, you really expect all the incoming alliances to be blue with -A-? Do you think -A- is going to like that? lots less targets that way. Maybe that is what happens but i just cant see that since its GF everyone wants.
So what happens when UK is in a roaming -A- fleet and hit there so called friends in provi that own space that happen to be blue to UK but red to them? Are UK not going to shoot? Are you not going to allow UK to join roaming -A- gangs? What be the answer say the? Do all the system holders alliances just be red to each other?
To sit here and claim your going to NRDS just wont cut it since it wont work unless your red to -A-. Your whole argument about neutrals not being shot is fail since its not really going to be the neutrals that are the primary target anyway it will be the system holders.
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.07 21:20:00 -
[149]
Edited by: Butter Dog on 07/03/2010 21:22:11
What don't you understand about Not Red Don't Shoot?
also confirming the odd roaming gang from AAA will bring the New Providence Order to its knees
also confirming that these roaming gangs will be a major threat to spaceholding, and that residents definately cannot fight them off, or wait in a station/pos until they pass - this will be impossible
its much worse than having CVA in charge and being in a state of territorial war... honest~ ----------
~bitter dog~
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Yoji Kio
Minmatar StarHunt Systematic-Chaos
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Posted - 2010.03.07 21:58:00 -
[150]
man i agree to this topic. I realy cant be arsed to move my ships up North. you know how many jumps that is ???
Thats why we fighted goons, Cva and now coven. We loved them all in our special way but they were just closer to us.
Next we will fight AAA, IT and Atlass and then take over the Amarr empirem, Gal vederation and Minmatar Rep.
Caldari state we leave alone as it is way to far to take my ratting raven
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Princess Jodi
Gallente Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.07 22:12:00 -
[151]
Originally by: Eskalin
aww poor no name in no name alliance FYI it's just f1 now that ccp has made it easier with grouping. stay bitter. ps. I'm arrogant cause i am better than you.
Just quoting this to remind people why Bob was the most hated alliance in the game.
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Metal Dude
Gallente Destructive Influence IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.07 22:30:00 -
[152]
Edited by: Metal Dude on 07/03/2010 23:00:32
Originally by: Princess Jodi
Originally by: Eskalin
aww poor no name in no name alliance FYI it's just f1 now that ccp has made it easier with grouping. stay bitter. ps. I'm arrogant cause i am better than you.
Just quoting this to remind people why Bob was the most hated alliance in the game.
NC along with goonis has long taken over that honor, but if you keep whining, maybe you can again form up to stop the tyranny. You know, in the name of honor and integrity? 
The truth will set you free
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Kushmir
Amarr GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.03.07 23:26:00 -
[153]
Originally by: Metal Dude Edited by: Metal Dude on 07/03/2010 23:00:32
Originally by: Princess Jodi
Originally by: Eskalin
aww poor no name in no name alliance FYI it's just f1 now that ccp has made it easier with grouping. stay bitter. ps. I'm arrogant cause i am better than you.
Just quoting this to remind people why Bob was the most hated alliance in the game.
NC along with goonis has long taken over that honor, but if you keep whining, maybe you can again form up to stop the tyranny. You know, in the name of honor and integrity? 
Poor BoB, still bitter years after we ****d you like a Darfur refugee.
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General Windypops
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.08 00:24:00 -
[154]
Originally by: Kushmir
Originally by: Metal Dude Edited by: Metal Dude on 07/03/2010 23:00:32
Originally by: Princess Jodi
Originally by: Eskalin
aww poor no name in no name alliance FYI it's just f1 now that ccp has made it easier with grouping. stay bitter. ps. I'm arrogant cause i am better than you.
Just quoting this to remind people why Bob was the most hated alliance in the game.
NC along with goonis has long taken over that honor, but if you keep whining, maybe you can again form up to stop the tyranny. You know, in the name of honor and integrity? 
Poor BoB, still bitter years after we ****d you like a Darfur refugee.
Just quoting this to remind people why Goons were the most hated alliance in the game.
Twitter:@genrlwindypops
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Itzena
Amarr GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.03.08 00:26:00 -
[155]
Originally by: Edible Bandaid UK has promised i believe to keep the area NRDS, so whats the big deal? Other then the pilots that ocupy the space everything will stay the same for those who suggest their "nuetrality." So if you are trully nuetral, shhhhh.
NRDS is meaningless if it's not enforced. U'K lack both the ability and political freedom to enforce it.
Therefore Providence will not be NRDS.
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Kushmir
Amarr GoonWaffe SOLODRAKBANSOLODRAKBANSO
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Posted - 2010.03.08 01:38:00 -
[156]
Originally by: General Windypops
Originally by: Kushmir
Originally by: Metal Dude
NC along with goonis has long taken over that honor, but if you keep whining, maybe you can again form up to stop the tyranny. You know, in the name of honor and integrity? 
Poor BoB, still bitter years after we ****d you like a Darfur refugee.
Just quoting this to remind people why Goons were the most hated alliance in the game.
a bloo bloo bloo
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.08 11:38:00 -
[157]
Originally by: Itzena
Originally by: Edible Bandaid UK has promised i believe to keep the area NRDS, so whats the big deal? Other then the pilots that ocupy the space everything will stay the same for those who suggest their "nuetrality." So if you are trully nuetral, shhhhh.
NRDS is meaningless if it's not enforced. U'K lack both the ability and political freedom to enforce it.
Therefore Providence will not be NRDS.
Who gives a ****?
We'll apply NRDS, which is all we care about. ----------
~bitter dog~
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Suitonia
Gallente Genos Occidere Sev3rance
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Posted - 2010.03.08 11:57:00 -
[158]
I guess some people are confused, as even someone in your own alliance suggested that you would allow people to live there and provide infrastructure for them.
But since you lack the means to enforce the safety of the people moving in there, it won't really be successful, AAA and your political blues will be free to kill who they want, even gatecamp the area, as long as they don't kill you, you'll do nothing about it. Only alliances that NAP with AAA and your blues will only really be able to live and enforce anything there (Which is kinda ironic you know forced, or "carrot on a stick" standings enclaves and all that) Unless said alliances are capable of holding their own (in which case they'll move to Curse and Stain and enjoy the much better space). ---
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Xavier Reign
Caldari The All-Seeing Eye Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.08 12:21:00 -
[159]
There is no NRDS in nullsec, it is a lie. There are only hippies who believe in nullsec NRDS and others who cynically promote the existence of NRDS to have some easy kill. The current standing system makes it impossible even to enforce NRDS.
Anyway, respect goes to CVA for standing against and forming up.
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Jhonen Senraedi
Minmatar Dopehead Industries Republic Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.08 13:34:00 -
[160]
A long time ago! When I was a rookie...I aspired to join Ushra Khan Diidn't have an in route to that alliance so I joined Namtz..a Minmatar lowsec NRDS Alliance..and whilst there I observed U'K pilots shooting neutrals.. After Namtz I moved on to Foundati0n,possibly a greater NRDS Alliance than CVA..until it was infiltrated by former enemies and began to shift in a direction in opposition to what the majority had become accustomed to and/or desired it to be! Whilst in Foundati0n..I remember being in a roaming gang down Scalding Pass way when we encountered some blues,UK in fact,who then engaged us and informed us that they had or would be resetting us..
Now I am in Republic Alliance,an entity that tries,along with our allies in True Reign and Warped Aggression plus several corps etc. to carry out NRDS in the area of space we live in..so that people new to 0.0 can come and experience it without the usual difficulties etc. I thus feel able to comment on the NRDS policies of both CVA and U'K ...
U'K...Once a height aspired to for me..but a light dimmed by personal experience..They have operated NBSI in blue space,shot on allies and generally behaved in an NBSI manner!
CVA...Called us carebears even though we generally have better stas than their holders etc. Have come to our space to hunt and shoot neutrals etc. Set us KOS for laughable reasons even though we don't go to Providence!
As to the current issue...CVA acted in an aggressive manner towards -AAA- and attempted to take their space...unfortunately..that would sort of suggest that CVA were in the wrong here and are reaping what they sowed!
Would be nice if U'K and CVA were NRDS but,experience has taught me..they aren't really!Shame as we need more entities in Eve to enable younger/newer pilots and corps to experience and access 0.0 space!
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Balhi
Caldari Le Cercle Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2010.03.08 18:33:00 -
[161]
Originally by: Butter Dog Edited by: Butter Dog on 07/03/2010 21:22:11
What don't you understand about Not Red Don't Shoot?
also confirming the odd roaming gang from AAA will bring the New Providence Order to its knees
also confirming that these roaming gangs will be a major threat to spaceholding, and that residents definately cannot fight them off, or wait in a station/pos until they pass - this will be impossible
its much worse than having CVA in charge and being in a state of territorial war... honest~
I am sorry, but this is just hilariously dumb.
What is the point living in a crappy space, when even the red can dock into yours stations? Curse would be a lot better, and safer even for the carebears than Providence, with Ushra'Khan holding the stations, and being blue to -A-.
Providence is going to be a pointless desert.
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Jenny Jackson
Minmatar Out of Order Cult of War
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Posted - 2010.03.08 19:19:00 -
[162]
Hmm.. not going to read 6 pages of a horrible thread...
UK are role players CVA are role players
UK and CVA role play for different factions so they shoot each other. Both somewhat operated at NRDS (they always shot me both of them) lol
CVA and -aaa- always use to scrimmage aka fight but -aaa- never took there space. It was horrible space so no one wanted it... Now that you can upgrade space why not take it and rent it out?
Southern Command didn't come up with this idea to take CVA space. I'm pretty sure -aaa- pretty much did it on their own with their best friends UK.. (Possibly because CVA decided to send roaming gangs into other peoples space... (NRDS but traveling to other regions to shoot people). Not sure how that worked.
I think everyone was ok with CVA in Providence as a punching bag or a place to take a fleet to get a fight.. CVA fck them self when they started to push into other regions to kill things.. Notable -aaa-. They created their own doom.
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Agent Unknown
Caldari Night Theifs Apotheosis of Virtue
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Posted - 2010.03.08 20:24:00 -
[163]
Here's the kicker: They may be NRDS, but everyone's red except their friends.  By the way, this is my signature.
TeamSpeak For EVE - API-controlled TeamSpeak 3 Access!
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Suitonia
Gallente Genos Occidere Sev3rance
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Posted - 2010.03.08 22:07:00 -
[164]
Originally by: Jenny Jackson Hmm.. not going to read 6 pages of a horrible thread...
UK are role players CVA are role players
UK and CVA role play for different factions so they shoot each other. Both somewhat operated at NRDS (they always shot me both of them) lol
CVA and -aaa- always use to scrimmage aka fight but -aaa- never took there space. It was horrible space so no one wanted it... Now that you can upgrade space why not take it and rent it out?
Southern Command didn't come up with this idea to take CVA space. I'm pretty sure -aaa- pretty much did it on their own with their best friends UK.. (Possibly because CVA decided to send roaming gangs into other peoples space... (NRDS but traveling to other regions to shoot people). Not sure how that worked.
I think everyone was ok with CVA in Providence as a punching bag or a place to take a fleet to get a fight.. CVA fck them self when they started to push into other regions to kill things.. Notable -aaa-. They created their own doom.
Quoting this rated 5.
CVA started killing the SCs ratters and roaming in their space so they decided to get the axe? hahahahaha, you guys are bigger carebears than the north. ---
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.09 09:38:00 -
[165]
Originally by: Agent Unknown Here's the kicker: They may be NRDS, but everyone's red except their friends. 
on your overview settings, you can make neutrals appear with a red box around them
now the revelation: this is standing UK orders because we lack e-honour ----------
~bitter dog~
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Maestro Ulv
Gallente Phaze-9 Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.09 11:07:00 -
[166]
Edited by: Maestro Ulv on 09/03/2010 11:09:03 Edited by: Maestro Ulv on 09/03/2010 11:07:56
Originally by: Agent Unknown Here's the kicker: They may be NRDS, but everyone's red except their friends. 
I was hoping your CAOD stats were better than your PVP stats but no, seems you cannot even manage one kill in here 
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Agent Unknown
Caldari Night Theifs Apotheosis of Virtue
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Posted - 2010.03.09 14:09:00 -
[167]
Originally by: Maestro Ulv Edited by: Maestro Ulv on 09/03/2010 11:09:03 Edited by: Maestro Ulv on 09/03/2010 11:07:56
Originally by: Agent Unknown Here's the kicker: They may be NRDS, but everyone's red except their friends. 
I was hoping your CAOD stats were better than your PVP stats but no, seems you cannot even manage one kill in here 
Unfortunately I'm not posting with my PVP character.  By the way, this is my signature.
TeamSpeak For EVE - API-controlled TeamSpeak 3 Access!
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Swiftgaze
Caldari Elysium Holdings
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Posted - 2010.03.09 14:20:00 -
[168]
Edited by: Swiftgaze on 09/03/2010 14:21:05 I'm still waiting for the moment where someone claims that all of CVA's enemies have been hacked by ISK sellers, although they haven't bought ISK, and weren't actually planning to take down CVA before the hack > so it should be rolled back to the state of June 2009.
Or something. 
(PS I predict it to be 20 minutes after CVA lost its last sov system)
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McLovin Sr
Caldari ORIGIN SYSTEMS Shadows of Light
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Posted - 2010.03.12 21:35:00 -
[169]
bump for such an awesome thread and truthful.
I agree with the op totally!!!!
Blows smelly donkey balls that we're losing providence to a bunch of ****tators....
Tears, and cheers for those fighting still down there.
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Dimdamm
Minmatar Aries Engineering Quasar Generation
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Posted - 2010.03.12 22:19:00 -
[170]
Originally by: Butter Dog
Who gives a ****?
We'll apply NRDS, which is all we care about.
So you will set AAA red ?
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Forlorn Wongraven
Caldari Universal Army Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.12 22:37:00 -
[171]
Originally by: Jhonen Senraedi Now I am in Republic Alliance,an entity that tries,along with our allies in True Reign and Warped Aggression plus several corps etc. to carry out NRDS in the area of space we live in..so that people new to 0.0 can come and experience it without the usual difficulties etc.
A wasteland with four stations in three systems all in one constellation will always be a napfest. That's not NRDS. +10 for the effort though. You can't compare Great Wildlands with Providence. Some systems in Provi have more towers than you can find in over a couple constellations in GW. ____________________
Lord Makk > I swear to god if there is a saviour, his name is Forlorn.
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.13 09:44:00 -
[172]
Originally by: Dimdamm
Originally by: Butter Dog
Who gives a ****?
We'll apply NRDS, which is all we care about.
So you will set AAA red ?
why are you even asking this question? ----------
~bitter dog~
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Manfred Sideous
Amarr H A V O C Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.03.13 10:27:00 -
[173]
Edited by: Manfred Sideous on 13/03/2010 10:31:09 Shoot more talk less ______________________________
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Dimdamm
Minmatar Aries Engineering Quasar Generation
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Posted - 2010.03.13 11:52:00 -
[174]
Edited by: Dimdamm on 13/03/2010 11:55:30
Originally by: Butter Dog
why are you even asking this question?
Because if you want to apply a real NRDS in Providence, you have to set red and attack all those who attack neutrals in Provi. If you don't, it's a "Not Blue My Friends Shoot it".
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Lilan Kahn
Amarr The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.13 12:20:00 -
[175]
Originally by: Dimdamm Edited by: Dimdamm on 13/03/2010 11:55:30
Originally by: Butter Dog
why are you even asking this question?
Because if you want to apply a real NRDS in Providence, you have to set red and attack all those who attack neutrals in Provi. If you don't, it's a "Not Blue My Friends Shoot it".
obvisly you failed understanding what NRDS means its okay but dont come and play smart abut how stupid you are 
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.13 12:27:00 -
[176]
Originally by: Dimdamm Edited by: Dimdamm on 13/03/2010 11:55:30
Originally by: Butter Dog
why are you even asking this question?
Because if you want to apply a real NRDS in Providence, you have to set red and attack all those who attack neutrals in Provi. If you don't, it's a "Not Blue My Friends Shoot it".
You could have just replied: "I don't know what NRDS means" ----------
~bitter dog~
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Dimdamm
Minmatar Aries Engineering Quasar Generation
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Posted - 2010.03.13 12:37:00 -
[177]
Okay, so let's take an exemple 
Yours AAA friends are camping the kari gate, and destroying all the poor neutrals who jumps.
If you let them do that, you can't say it's a NRDS area.
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.13 12:49:00 -
[178]
Edited by: Butter Dog on 13/03/2010 12:50:16 didn't claim it was, and whats an 'NRDS area' anyway? an area where everyone is forced to follow our standings?
I said we would probably run NRDS, which is all we care about - we're not CVA ----------
~bitter dog~
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William DeMeo
Gallente Genos Occidere Sev3rance
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Posted - 2010.03.13 17:50:00 -
[179]
Originally by: Manfred Sideous Edited by: Manfred Sideous on 13/03/2010 10:31:09 Shoot more talk less
You telling U'k? Horses. Before the automobile, it was the horse that was used for transportation. Wars, exploring... were fought with men on horses. Must have been interesting back then when many people had horses as |

Eric carr
Caldari Big Shadows Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.13 18:41:00 -
[180]
STOP!!! Kia was sounding great, but we could've used a little more cowbell. |

Ace Frehley
Minmatar Big Shadows Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.13 18:41:00 -
[181]
HAMMERTIME!
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Lilan Kahn
Amarr The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.13 19:23:00 -
[182]
Originally by: William DeMeo
Originally by: Manfred Sideous Edited by: Manfred Sideous on 13/03/2010 10:31:09 Shoot more talk less
You telling U'k?
omgosh its ~wolfpax~ 
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Suitonia
Gallente Genos Occidere Sev3rance
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Posted - 2010.03.13 22:33:00 -
[183]
Originally by: Lilan Kahn
omgosh its ~wolfpax~ 
Well seeing as you guys are now an anomaly running / Generic powerblock alliance having switched from a roaming PvP one, I guess ~wolfpax~ isn't something that concerns you anymore ~ ---
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Lilan Kahn
Amarr The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.13 22:47:00 -
[184]
Originally by: Suitonia
Originally by: Lilan Kahn
omgosh its ~wolfpax~ 
Well seeing as you guys are now an anomaly running / Generic powerblock alliance having switched from a roaming PvP one, I guess ~wolfpax~ isn't something that concerns you anymore ~
2003 called they whant there roaming gangs back that matters 
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Sa'Shena
Amarr Nomad LLP Wayfarer Stellar Initiative
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Posted - 2010.03.13 23:32:00 -
[185]
Originally by: Lilan Kahn whant there roaming gangs back that matters
lolwut
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Suitonia
Gallente Genos Occidere Sev3rance
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Posted - 2010.03.13 23:50:00 -
[186]
There are plenty of roaming gangs around Lilan, there always have been, and always be. Your alliance used to be one of the most respected and decent roaming PvP alliances in the game, lots of great solo and small gang PvPers. Unfortunately the majority of the pilots who were involved in that seem to have parted with Ushra'Khan, although you still have some fine guys like Karn.
If your terrible almost illegible post is trying to say that "roaming gangs aren't relevant in the big picture" then yeah, you're absolutely right. No-one has claimed any different.
As demonstrated by you earlier in XHQ today, if you can't beat providence in a 200 vs 200~ ish fight, bring 450 vs 200. ---
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Lilly Tigress
Caldari Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2010.03.13 23:56:00 -
[187]
we can bring what we like no one is saying its a fair fight and we dont give a damn about genos, and we dont care that is all
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Suitonia
Gallente Genos Occidere Sev3rance
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Posted - 2010.03.14 00:32:00 -
[188]
http://www.scrapheap-challenge.com/viewtopic.php?t=33087&start=60
Atlas wanted ~goodfights~ though, and apparently you ruined that for them. ---
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Lilan Kahn
Amarr The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.14 08:05:00 -
[189]
atlas crash our party then complains abut it 
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Butter Dog
Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2010.03.14 11:54:00 -
[190]
oh god, UK has changed, oh no, the sky is falling, less ~wolfpax~, we are going to die, please GOD NO, IT CANT BE 
ffs who cares if we don't do as many ~wolfpax~ as we once did, we're a little busy burning providence at the moment with our gay napfest, in case you hadn't noticed
i'm sure once this objective has come to a conclusion either way, we'll be back in those all-important roaming gangs killing NPCers once more ----------
~bitter dog~
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