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Super Effective
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.30 20:32:00 -
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Hey pilots, this tactic has been confirmed by CCP to be working as intended, so it's not an exploit! Avoid the embarrassing consequences for doing stupid stuff with this handy method.
Did you do something stupid and get tackled in your capital ship or any ship with significant numerical structure EHP? OH NO!
Don't panic, all you have to do is time your eject so that your ship dies to loss of skills (<25% structure) and you will be spared any lossmail embarrassment, with no troublesome 2 minute self-destruct timer to wait on! It's like it never happened!
Easily avoid killmails and never let anyone get an expensive kill on you! Just eject at the right time and laugh at the people who spent effort trying to trap you, because that's what EVE is about, right? No consequences for screwing up and getting tackled, just use this handy working-as-intended method that gives you a free pass!
Feel free to go back to nattering about adding killmails for self-destructs while leaving this massive hole unaddressed! |

Hyperdallas
RedBull War Toys Pizza of the hut
12
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Posted - 2012.06.30 21:09:00 -
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1st |

RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
87
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Posted - 2012.06.30 21:21:00 -
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You mean: Give them your Super?
Rather die ty. |

Cat Casidy
Percussive Diplomacy PERCUSSIVE PIZZA TIME DIPLOMACY
44
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Posted - 2012.06.30 21:40:00 -
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The method he's talking about wouldn't let them board, the ship would explode once you left when your lack of skills keeping it above 0 hull caused it to explode SLAPD - Star Scientist, I science stars |

Christine Peeveepeeski
The Imperial Fedaykin
83
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Posted - 2012.06.30 21:46:00 -
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INB4 'because killmails is what matters'. |

Werst Dendenahzees
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
24
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Posted - 2012.06.30 21:52:00 -
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What exactly does this accomplish? You still lost a supercap. |

Super Effective
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.30 21:56:00 -
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Werst Dendenahzees wrote:What exactly does this accomplish? You still lost a supercap.
Prove it.
I guess you've never read a huge chain of mockery on a big loss? |

Werst Dendenahzees
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
25
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Posted - 2012.07.01 00:39:00 -
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Who cares about the mockery you/your alliance are out 30b isk and a ship that can't be replaced instantly off of the Jita market. |

Super Effective
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.07.01 01:29:00 -
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Werst Dendenahzees wrote:Who cares about the mockery you/your alliance are out 30b isk and a ship that can't be replaced instantly off of the Jita market.
Imagine my rapt attention as a Goon tries to tell me that propaganda is of no value. |

Yabba Addict
Legion of the Many
22
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Posted - 2012.07.01 02:03:00 -
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You gotta admit, whether you care about km's or not, it's a pretty screwed up mechanic |

Mfume Apocal
Origin. Black Legion.
506
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Posted - 2012.07.01 03:31:00 -
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NO KM MEANS IT NEVER HAPPENED |

Super Effective
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.07.01 03:53:00 -
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Mfume Apocal wrote:NO KM MEANS IT NEVER HAPPENED
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denying_the_antecedent |

Shade Millith
Fortis Defensor.
41
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Posted - 2012.07.01 04:20:00 -
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Super Effective wrote:Werst Dendenahzees wrote:What exactly does this accomplish? You still lost a supercap. Prove it. I guess you've never read a huge chain of mockery on a big loss?
Fraps is a pretty easy way. |

Super Effective
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.07.01 04:50:00 -
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Shade Millith wrote:Super Effective wrote:Werst Dendenahzees wrote:What exactly does this accomplish? You still lost a supercap. Prove it. I guess you've never read a huge chain of mockery on a big loss? Fraps is a pretty easy way.
That's... that's actually a pretty good practical suggestion. Thank you, Shade. |

Werst Dendenahzees
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
26
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Posted - 2012.07.02 00:55:00 -
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Super Effective wrote:Werst Dendenahzees wrote:Who cares about the mockery you/your alliance are out 30b isk and a ship that can't be replaced instantly off of the Jita market. Imagine my rapt attention as a Goon tries to tell me that propaganda is of no value.
Well the truth is that if you welp 40 titans BUT THEY SELF DESTRUCT BEFORE I GET THE KILLMAIL you still lost 40 titans. |

Dersk
90040045
77
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Posted - 2012.07.02 01:03:00 -
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Werst Dendenahzees wrote:Well the truth is that if you welp 40 titans BUT THEY SELF DESTRUCT BEFORE I GET THE KILLMAIL you still lost 40 titans.
And you'll always wonder if that Erebus had a gyrostab... |

Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch Caldari State Capturing
159
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Posted - 2012.07.02 04:54:00 -
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PVP is not about killmails. We all have those enough already.
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Halete
Echoes of Korgoth Initiative
196
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Posted - 2012.07.02 05:10:00 -
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Dersk wrote: And you'll always wonder if that Erebus had a gyrostab...
This guy gets it.
I don't want to live in an EVE where PL can save face. Dirty heretical mud-child, reporting in. |

Kuehnelt
Devoid Privateering
107
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Posted - 2012.07.02 05:27:00 -
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If there's no lossmail, then you didn't lose it, so WHERE ARE YOU HIDING AN ALLIANCE ASSET? |

Terram alWathani
Ragnarok Rising Sspectre
5
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Posted - 2012.07.02 05:57:00 -
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Super Effective wrote:Werst Dendenahzees wrote:Who cares about the mockery you/your alliance are out 30b isk and a ship that can't be replaced instantly off of the Jita market. Imagine my rapt attention as a Goon tries to tell me that propaganda is of no value.
I lol'd |

Dood Maker
Fweddit I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
2
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Posted - 2012.07.02 12:36:00 -
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Super Effective wrote:Hey pilots, this tactic has been confirmed by CCP to be working as intended, so it's not an exploit! Avoid the embarrassing consequences for doing stupid stuff with this handy method.
Did you do something stupid and get tackled in your capital ship or any ship with significant numerical structure EHP? OH NO!
Don't panic, all you have to do is time your eject so that your ship dies to loss of skills (<25% structure) and you will be spared any lossmail embarrassment, with no troublesome 2 minute self-destruct timer to wait on! It's like it never happened!
Easily avoid killmails and never let anyone get an expensive kill on you! Just eject at the right time and laugh at the people who spent effort trying to trap you, because that's what EVE is about, right? No consequences for screwing up and getting tackled, just use this handy working-as-intended method that gives you a free pass!
Feel free to go back to nattering about adding killmails for self-destructs while leaving this massive hole unaddressed!
So you have just acknowledged to all that you have lost your carrier to people and used this very cowardly and un sportsmanship like way of getting out of a killmail and not just once by the sound of it but many times over. To make things worse you have actually worked out a system to not get a killmail against yourself for the loss.
Just by the way: How many carriers and dreads have you lost trying and testing this method cause it sounds like you do stupid stuff with carriers all the time. I mean if someone posted this in here and you where in my alliance I would question your skills and learning capabilities as a human being.
Scenario: you go belt ratting and get caught and blown up. Now you don't get killmail so you go buy and fit a new carrier and then go belt rat in it again... Now a sane person with brain cells would just go "dam I was maybe stupid and should not do that" but you go "hell I know Im going to loose more carriers but try and not get killmailed."
You most likely going to come back with a I have tested this in sisi or I have not lost any carriers belt ratting cause I am not that stupid but then you cant prove it cause lets be honest you not on the killmail. |

Werst Dendenahzees
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
27
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Posted - 2012.07.02 16:05:00 -
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Super Effective wrote:Werst Dendenahzees wrote:Who cares about the mockery you/your alliance are out 30b isk and a ship that can't be replaced instantly off of the Jita market. Imagine my rapt attention as a Goon tries to tell me that propaganda is of no value.
Oh and ''X allliance is so bad that they selfdestruct their own supercaps to prevent damage to their killboard stats'' is good propaganda. |

Stoleas
Dare Bears
0
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Posted - 2012.07.02 18:29:00 -
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Christine Peeveepeeski wrote:INB4 'because killmails is what matters'.
I just want your loot... |

Super Effective
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.07.03 07:36:00 -
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Dood Maker wrote:Super Effective wrote:Hey pilots, this tactic has been confirmed by CCP to be working as intended, so it's not an exploit! Avoid the embarrassing consequences for doing stupid stuff with this handy method.
Did you do something stupid and get tackled in your capital ship or any ship with significant numerical structure EHP? OH NO!
Don't panic, all you have to do is time your eject so that your ship dies to loss of skills (<25% structure) and you will be spared any lossmail embarrassment, with no troublesome 2 minute self-destruct timer to wait on! It's like it never happened!
Easily avoid killmails and never let anyone get an expensive kill on you! Just eject at the right time and laugh at the people who spent effort trying to trap you, because that's what EVE is about, right? No consequences for screwing up and getting tackled, just use this handy working-as-intended method that gives you a free pass!
Feel free to go back to nattering about adding killmails for self-destructs while leaving this massive hole unaddressed! So you have just acknowledged to all that you have lost your carrier to people and used this very cowardly and un sportsmanship like way of getting out of a killmail and not just once by the sound of it but many times over. To make things worse you have actually worked out a system to not get a killmail against yourself for the loss. Just by the way: How many carriers and dreads have you lost trying and testing this method cause it sounds like you do stupid stuff with carriers all the time. I mean if someone posted this in here and you where in my alliance I would question your skills and learning capabilities as a human being. Scenario: you go belt ratting and get caught and blown up. Now you don't get killmail so you go buy and fit a new carrier and then go belt rat in it again... Now a sane person with brain cells would just go "dam I was maybe stupid and should not do that" but you go "hell I know Im going to loose more carriers but try and not get killmailed." You most likely going to come back with a I have tested this in sisi or I have not lost any carriers belt ratting cause I am not that stupid but then you cant prove it cause lets be honest you not on the killmail.
You have the best sarcasm detector I've ever encountered!
Try recalibrating your detector on the later paragraph about how "EVE is about no consequences for bad choices" .
In case your detector is faulty, the point is it's a cheesy mechanic and it should generate killmails even if loss of skills was the proximate cause of death, the same way CONCORD doesn't steal mails any longer. |

Moonlit Raid
State War Academy Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2012.07.03 12:10:00 -
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Yabba Addict wrote:You gotta admit, whether you care about km's or not, it's a pretty screwed up mechanic No, I do not care about killmails and I also disagree with you about the mechanic. You ship explodes due to your actions, not anyone elses. Yours. That's all there is to it. |

Yabba Addict
Legion of the Many
22
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Posted - 2012.07.03 14:41:00 -
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Moonlit Raid wrote:Yabba Addict wrote:You gotta admit, whether you care about km's or not, it's a pretty screwed up mechanic No, I do not care about killmails and I also disagree with you about the mechanic. You ship explodes due to your actions, not anyone elses. Yours. That's all there is to it.
Good point |

FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
1869
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Posted - 2012.07.03 17:11:00 -
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Moonlit Raid wrote:Yabba Addict wrote:You gotta admit, whether you care about km's or not, it's a pretty screwed up mechanic No, I do not care about killmails and I also disagree with you about the mechanic. You ship explodes due to your actions, not anyone elses. Yours. That's all there is to it. So you regularly explode your ship when no one is shooting it? What? That's not the case? So...it wouldn't have exploded if they weren't shooting it? How is that due solely to your actions? It's time to put an end to CCP's war on piracy. Fight your own battles and stop asking CCP to do it for you. |

Moonlit Raid
State War Academy Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2012.07.03 17:15:00 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:Moonlit Raid wrote:Yabba Addict wrote:You gotta admit, whether you care about km's or not, it's a pretty screwed up mechanic No, I do not care about killmails and I also disagree with you about the mechanic. You ship explodes due to your actions, not anyone elses. Yours. That's all there is to it. So you regularly explode your ship when no one is shooting it? What? That's not the case? So...it wouldn't have exploded if they weren't shooting it? How is that due solely to your actions? So I started this game called EVE, therefore I lost a Titan. True facts. Where should the chain of causation end? Should killmails just include your purchase history. I bought it therefore it exploded, if I hadn't bought it, it wouldn't have exploded. |

MTR GhettoJedi
RSK. Curbstomp..
0
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Posted - 2012.07.06 01:44:00 -
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does my hair make my butt look big? |

Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery Dead On Arrival Alliance
403
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Posted - 2012.07.06 08:27:00 -
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Are you talking abut the hair on your butt, or your head? The skilful employer of men will employ the wise man, the brave man, the covetous man, and the stupid man. Sun Tzu localectomy.blogspot.com.au
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