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Alpha Spinecone
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Posted - 2010.03.02 16:48:00 -
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Do I get the concorduken for shooting down someone who is in my fleet, not my corp?
Also, if someone is in my corp and fleet, and I leave fleet right before he fires, does he get the concorduken?
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Durzel
The Xenodus Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.03.02 16:51:00 -
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Being in a fleet has no effect on CONCORD response at all.
You can shoot corp members in a fleet or out of a fleet.
You can't shoot any fleet member you aren't at war with/aggressed to.
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Alpha Spinecone
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Posted - 2010.03.02 16:53:00 -
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 Originally by: Durzel
Being in a fleet has no effect on CONCORD response at all.
You can shoot corp members in a fleet or out of a fleet.
You can't shoot any fleet member you aren't at war with/aggressed to.
Thank you
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Axemaster
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Posted - 2010.03.02 21:58:00 -
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Edited by: Axemaster on 02/03/2010 21:58:22
Actually I had a question of my own:
When you are at war, and a neutral joins your fleet, do the enemy get to shoot at him?
I don't do highsec wars so I never found out in the past.
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Mithfindel
Aseyakone
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Posted - 2010.03.02 22:49:00 -
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THIS IS OLD HISTORY, NO LONGER VALID: In the old times, being in fleet with war targets allowed people to shoot you. You were warned when you joined a fleet with people at war. Exploit: After you joined, a "war target" joins the fleet without any warning to you. The "hostiles" killed you. (Lofty scam.)
CURRENT: War targets will not aggression flag you to the other side, unless you are actively helping them with targeted modules, such as remote repairers. (Which aggression flag you to the other side regardless of whether you're fleeted with the ship you're helping or not.)
You are free to fire without CONCORD intervention in hisec people, who:
- Are in the same player corporation as you are
- You have kill rights on (have illegally killed you "recently")
- Have < 5.0 security status (outlaws)
- Are valid war targets
- Have stolen from you
- Are criminally flagged (likely NPCs get them first)
- Are attacking you (self defense)
Do note that this means that if you fire on someone who has stolen from you, they can fire back. The aggression flag lasts for 15 minutes, so even if you pop their rookie ship, they may return in a more capable ship.
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Gawain Hawk
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Posted - 2010.03.02 22:54:00 -
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Originally by: Axemaster
Edited by: Axemaster on 02/03/2010 21:58:22
Actually I had a question of my own:
When you are at war, and a neutral joins your fleet, do the enemy get to shoot at him?
I don't do highsec wars so I never found out in the past.
Being fleeted has no effect on agro mechanics.
Fleeted members can not shoot each other without interference from Concord - only Corp members can.
Fleeted members do do get agro on can flippers - only Corp members do.
Fleeted members can not attack or be attacked by war targets belonging to other fleet members without Concord showing up.
Once again - being fleeted has no effect on agro mechanics - only being in the same Corp.
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Hobonator912
Gallente
Dark Nexxus
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Posted - 2010.03.03 01:16:00 -
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Wait, so corp members can do all the S$%t they want to each other with CONCORD still eating dougnuts and not taking a standings/sec hit?
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Gawain Hawk
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Posted - 2010.03.03 02:38:00 -
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Originally by: Hobonator912
Wait, so corp members can do all the S$%t they want to each other with CONCORD still eating dougnuts and not taking a standings/sec hit?
Umm, yes, exactly.
Which is why there are certain individuals who specialise in joining carebear corps just so they can gank their new corpmates.
Depending on who you talk to this either makes them;
A. Pathetic cowards who do not want a fair fight.
B. Exploiters who are avoiding consequences for their ganks.
C. Clever
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Miney Prospector
Maximum Yarrage
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Posted - 2010.03.03 04:04:00 -
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I thought it was CONCORDokken... ? Did it get changed?
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Agent Unknown
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.03.03 05:20:00 -
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Originally by: Miney Prospector
I thought it was CONCORDokken... ? Did it get changed?
Not as far as I've been playing...shooting corpmates has always been allowed.
Of course, you could always go to 0.0 and do away with the silly aggression business. 
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