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Samuel Crowe
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Posted - 2010.03.05 11:38:00 -
[31]
 Originally by: De Guantanamo
Originally by: Ambo
You might find this useful/interesting.
Some kills I've had with it:
T2 AC Thrasher with neut
Punisher + Executioner + Thrasher (Arty fit)
Three Rifters
doubling the price of a subpar frigate class ship is just plain stupid
also active tanking without a cap booster is stupid
and lolafterburner
gates and stations only?
Listen to this man. He's a PVP god!
ROFL
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Sidewayzracer
Caldari
Corax.
New Eden Retail Federation
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Posted - 2010.03.07 07:21:00 -
[32]
not completly useless in the right hands quite deadly old CEO of mine had a clip of him in a Hawk vs 3 Kestrels and a Thrasher... end result 2 dead Kestrels and a Dead Thrasher.
its not useless you just suck at flying it.
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Van PokerAlho
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Posted - 2010.03.07 15:15:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Sidewayzracer
not completly useless in the right hands quite deadly old CEO of mine had a clip of him in a Hawk vs 3 Kestrels and a Thrasher... end result 2 dead Kestrels and a Dead Thrasher.
its not useless you just suck at flying it.
So one day I kill 3 t1 ships with my t2 ship of the same class (small) and suddenly everyone sucks at flying the t2 ship I used? just because:
1- I was lucky
2- Other guys were unlucky
3- I played very well that time
4- Other guys played very wrong that time
5- A mix of some/all of the previous
EVE killboards are full of heroic/strange/whatever fights, and we should use that rare occasions to guess what ships are good? One situation and one pilot to prove that a ship is good, please...
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Tub Chil
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Posted - 2010.03.08 09:42:00 -
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Caldari approach to pvp (I'll shoot you from far, but I'm not fast enough to be far from you) really bores me
I think I'll train gal later
the only good thing about caldari in PVP is jammer ships
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Vincent Death
Hyasyoda External Security Trade and Development
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Posted - 2010.03.08 11:02:00 -
[35]
Originally by: Tub Chil
Caldari approach to pvp (I'll shoot you from far, but I'm not fast enough to be far from you) really bores me
I think I'll train gal later
the only good thing about caldari in PVP is jammer ships
Yeah, Drakes really suck at PvP...
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Tub Chil
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Posted - 2010.03.08 11:16:00 -
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DRAKE! WE HAVE DRAKE!
yayyy
:-/
ok seriously
in 1v1 pvp
frigs -
cruisers -
BC ~
BS -
AF -
HAC -
drake is pretty good but it's not the best. it's just not worse that other BC-s
only in fleet fights I see any use of caldari ships
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Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
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Posted - 2010.03.08 11:23:00 -
[37]
Originally by: Tub Chil
Caldari approach to pvp (I'll shoot you from far, but I'm not fast enough to be far from you) really bores me
I think I'll train gal later
lol
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Suitonia
Gallente
Genos Occidere
Sev3rance
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Posted - 2010.03.08 12:57:00 -
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I'd take proxxxays advice, hes a really good and competent PvPer when it comes to frigates, and knowing the frigate metagame.
Yes the Hawk is subpar, this is mostly due to it's bonuses, and rockets/SMLs not being all that great. It is still flyable though, and you can take advantage of the Hawks bad reputation since almost everyone will engage one. Hopefully we will see better use of it when rockets get buffed (CCP have stated they are aware of the issues and looking into it on the test server, hopefully we'll see them this summers patch, fingers crossed!)
They have also shown some interest in fixing assault frigates, they originally were going to get an afterburner bonus but I'm glad they scrapped that because the Ishkur and Jaguar would still be king.
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Van PokerAlho
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Posted - 2010.03.08 19:57:00 -
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If we push to have everything too much balanced things would get boring, the great thing of this game is the variety, either in ships and in what roles those ships do best.
Ishkur and Jaguar being better than others don't bother me, what bother me is some ships being completely useless. Caldari need urgent improvement because in pvp:
- People hate slow ships.
- Cruise missiles are the worst thing for pvp ever for so much reasons and I think not even one person will disagree with this.
- Torpedos are nice but to move fast, tackle and have cap injection you don't have enough mid slots for tank.
- In pvp victory is too often dictated by range, caldari have too much ships with range bonus and no speed to keep on it.
- All fits have to much pvp limitations because tackling (point and web) and speed are in the same slots as tanking, and you don't do that much damage with ballistics in the lows.
- Missiles in general are considered bad for big fleet pvp.
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All the things together leave shield tanking and missiles in a bad position, how many big alliances allow shield tanking in their organized fleets? I think most will tell you to use a interceptor or train to falcon because shield tanking have no room usually.
I could continue to speak and speak about caldari limitations, for example the kinetic missile bonus is bull****, take that out and give some other bonus, almost all caldari ships must shoot kinetic or do **** dps, and the hybrids guess what shoot half kinetic....
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wrathfulbully
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Posted - 2010.03.16 11:57:00 -
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the hawk is a waste of isk for a t2 ship i can fit a kessy better, ccp need to buff this ship up with with rockets, rig slot and a low slot and a little extra powergrid would make this ship worth while beyond that this ship is a nitemare to fit and for the isk and ill be cross training now because of it.
not a happy caldari peep
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