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Conlin Gallente Mad Bombers	Posted - 2010.03.06 09:30:00 - [31] Lily & towel are the new U'K , guage from them the wise words of wisdom . As long as it comes with coloured pictures & intructions . Towel you ranted & stomped your feet making threats & demanding red standings before you even bothered to getting around to asking why , then you wonder why your KoS ?. Also your corp/alliance was owned by Sylph? , the one you were in .......... then left ?, ......but you were never in Sylph ?. That really needs clarification kid Thanks to all those in U'K , -A- and our other friends for their support in our decision . Good Luck & Fly Safe . Conlin Out .
Archbishop Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2010.03.06 09:58:00 - [32] Originally by: Icarus3 This is a post about the Ushra'Khan. Like I have stated to you numerous times... stop letting your infatuation with -SF- to consume you. As was my question as it relates to the future of UK once they start claiming systems and claiming sovereignty. Quote: The difference between Ushra'khan, -SF- and the s**known as CVA/Holders is that we do not enforce standings upon others. General rules in specific systems maybe(depending on who claims the Sov). You're intelligent and experienced enough to know these reasons already... so why is it you need to inquire? Perhaps a UK diplomat could come here and publically state that they will endorse a NRDS policy in the future if they claim sovereignty? More importantly though if UK would also state they will ignore pirates in their areas who don't attack them directly thus ensuring they are not enforcing their will on others? I'm just saying the minute UK turns on someone in space they control that hasn't attacked them directly they become what you claim to oppose... an organization forcing itself on others. Thus I need to inquire because either the Star Fraction if that happens will do one of two things. They will either attack the UK as a result or they will be hypocritical to their cause and ignore it where their friends the UK are involved. Personally I think "hypocritical" will be your choice as you frequently only follow your "goals" when it's convenient. Quote: The current holders of providence are hated for many reasons. Put simply for you... they are slimy slaving dictators who will not be tolerated. It still amazes me how they've managed to keep such a hold on thousands of their "pet" alliance pilots over the years. Not a single resident of providence, wether the live in CVA, PXF, -7- space(etc), have never and will never know true freedom. Not until Providence is burnt and rebuilt. Certainly they will know freedom. Space is vast and there are a multitude of systems to inhabit. People have the freedom of choice to get up and move to a region of space where CVA, PXF or -7- rules don't apply. You make an interesting comment though saying not until Providence is "rebuilt". I've never known the Star Fraction to accomplish anything in the "building" category only in the "burnt" category. It's always been easier to destroy then build. Quote:** On a non-aggressive note... you feel we simply aim to challenge anyone who claims Sov... if that is truely the case then I suggest to stop by our alliance public channel to keep in touch with out diplomats. Ushra'Khan have claimed... 18 systems now? Many of which have been claimed for some time... only a few of those being in providence and we continue to hold mutual standings with them... Obviously we don't hate everyone. I can find a multitude of posts in the past where your leaders have repeatedly said the act of "claiming" space is in itself a denial of space being open to others... truly open that is. I'll use the example of the CVA to prove my point. Years ago when the CVA was founded there were no "mass standings" in Providence. There was no "master kill list" everyone followed. Yet back then the Star Fraction declared war on the CVA for "claiming space" and "expanding the empire". If as you claim now you oppose CVA because they are imposing their standings on others what was your excuse then? To me it looks like "enforcing standings" is just is your excuse of the week for violence. Your alliance of hypocrisy will find a new excuse the next time around as you attack someone else while at the same time ignoring your "friends" who do the same thing your "enemies" did. Thus the question remains. If the UK claim space and set "rules" for the area like "you must be NRDS" will the Star Fraction then attack them or ignore them? I'm sure the membership of the UK would like to know about their "future". Archbishop PIE WEBSITE ARCHBISHOP PORTAL
Borza Slavak Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.06 10:04:00 - [33] I don't understand Conlin. You say Ushra'Khan has lost sight of its goals by taking more space - but who are we taking the space from? If we were out conquering systems belonging to random space-holding entities you might have a point, but this is territory seized from CVA and their allies, slavers all. I notice you didn't post any comments here about the recapture of Unity Station, was that was a blunder fuelled by greed too?
Butter Dog Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.06 10:10:00 - [34] Oh dear, the corporation who contributed the least to the liberation of Providence from CVA think we're not 'coming for our people'. The cognitive dissonance must be quite something to behold. ---------- ~bitter dog~ etc
Orokar Blane Minmatar Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.06 10:12:00 - [35] We all know what the real reasons are.
EagleKnight11B Caldari Mad Bombers	Posted - 2010.03.06 10:24:00 - [36] Originally by: Butter Dog Oh dear, the corporation who contributed the least to the liberation of Providence from CVA think we're not 'coming for our people'. The cognitive dissonance must be quite something to behold. I do remember you crying in Council forums about our fight in Catch and Providence. You called it useless. Now you jumped on the opportunity when the odds were favorable. We never stopped the fight in Catch or Providence since we joined. It only became political when opportunist, such as you, took advantage of a deteriorating situation in providence that we help emerge. Always remember this Butter. We always been fighting Proviblock since we joined, it was people like you who cried in council to stop. As far as contribution, we have continuously suppressed the enemy since we have been here. The only reason you are saying we did not contribute is because we did not attend UKÆs CTAÆs. It is funny, but when we joined UK we came under terms that we do not do fleet warfare. UK broke that and that is why we left UK. Also, how do you measure participation? We have always been suppressing the enemy since we joined UK. Not like most of UKÆs new pilots, which rat for 95 percent of the time and perform during CTAÆs. We have always been here, where the F*** where you. That is right, you came when the glory could be easily handed to you. Unlike us real grunts that have been fighting in the trenches for a long, long time. 11B will definitely be stopping by the New Providence Block soon, because UK is the new providence. As you can tell, we cannot fight your fleet BSÆs or capital ships, or newly formed blobs. But we can put some punishment down in much needed areas and we hold our traditions well. That is why most UK senior members joined 11B, because we have not changed since we joined UK. UK changed, not 11B. See you in Hell!
Butter Dog Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.06 10:37:00 - [37] Edited by: Butter Dog on 06/03/2010 10:39:43 I have nothing against 11B, in fact I have very little opinion generally speaking. Everyone knows I'm not much of a roamer, I'm much more interested in campaigns, strategy, alliance-wide goals etc - things I believe REALLY move the alliance forward and help achieve our goal of crushing slavery. 11B failed to adapt to our changing circumstances. They were resistant to move forward, to embrace the new strategic landscape, to make best use of it to enable us to 'come for our people' and crush the CVA. This immature spat is quite laughable, and a testament to how removed their opinion is of themselves from that of alliance leadership. But if you want to air dirty laundry in public, you won't come out smelling of roses - far from it. Having 11B outside the alliance doesn't reduce our ability to wage war at all - they never turned up to CTA's, contributed pretty much nothing to strategic alliance goals, used but never contributed to alliance infrastructure, and failed to understand that roaming and killing sansha hunters would not kill ProvidenceBloc, even if they find it amusing. So, they were a bunch of roamers who, whilst occasionally amusing, will move into obscurity as they are not allowing their corporation to grow and develop to be capable of ANYTHING but a little bit of roaming. Whilst the rest of the alliance moves forward, and grows in scale and capablity, they remain nothing more than they ever were. Anyone can roam. You don't need much in the way of resources. It's easy. But fewer corps can successfully think bigger than that, and move themselves into a position of real strength. They failed to adapt. And, like other breakaway corps I can think of, they will eventually wither and die. That said, I'm finding it hard to care - in the grander scheme of things, they simply were not that important. If a corporation like NKB or someone equally important were to leave, then I'd worry. This is just a bit of joke. But if you are going to attract publicity with bizarre galnet transmissions such as this, I'm very comfortable letting people know just how little you contributed, and how you refused to adapt to change. Good luck finding your place in New Eden. ---------- ~bitter dog~ etc
EagleKnight11B Caldari Mad Bombers	Posted - 2010.03.06 10:39:00 - [38] LOL how much of that did you copy and paste from UK forums?
Lilan Kahn Amarr The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.06 10:41:00 - [39] Adapt or Die "Bringing Content to you 1 round of ammo at a time"
Butter Dog Gallente The Littlest Hobos Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.06 10:44:00 - [40] Originally by: EagleKnight11B LOL how much of that did you copy and paste from UK forums? most of it, i don't believe in duplication of effort The thing is, I've always been entirely focused on killing Providencebloc, but I knew how it needed to be done. The difference between you and I, is that you thought this could be achieved by killing lone sansha hunters in small gang warfare - wheras I knew it could not be. I guess some of us just find it easier to see the bigger picture. ---------- ~bitter dog~ etc

Stratio Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.06 10:47:00 - [41] Sad to see you guys go As others have stated already, we are freeing more slaves now than we have ever been able to in the past. The whole point of roaming CVA space was to undermine the economic basis where neutrals pay CVA for docking rights etc. We (with our allies) now OWN some of those stations, permanently denying CVA any further docking fees, notably 9UY. We have made a small but significant contribution to our allies taking the entry points to Providence, further removing the ability of CVA friendly groups getting into providence to rat/mine and pay CVA for station services. Due to the sheer number of recent battles, one of our corp members has been sacrificing an average of one battleship a week to these operations and such losses need to be replaced with ISK. It makes perfect sense to want to earn money from our home systems. I do agree though that, apart from a few exceptions, ex-provi block members generally have no business joing the freedom fighters. As always this is my own private view. _____________________ For Tribe and Honour!
Tirke Amarr	Posted - 2010.03.06 11:15:00 - [42] Sad that you have to show your true colors on IGS, it would have been better handled internally no? You have been showing your ass in alliance chat for the month youve been in 11b, now on IGS? You're idea of freedom fighting is being "elite pvpers" who roam in vagbond squads and kill miners and ratters, then dont show up for group operations that are focused on sov warfare. All so you can point at your 99% effeciency and pat each other on the back for a job well done? Im disappointed, I know youre all good pilots but youre setting a terrible example and you obviously left UK in spirit some time ago and just came on IGS to air dirty laundry because no one cared that you left.
Lucai Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.03.06 11:25:00 - [43] Edited by: Lucai on 06/03/2010 11:25:36 Originally by: Archbishop Incoherent pribble-prabble. Its really shocking to see how far you have come in your obsession with us. In this case, you are trying to built a weak strawman argument using a meager number of totally broken straws. Any freespace ideology neccessarily includes a "live and let live" doctrine. Any NBSI organisation clearly spits on that concept, thus "you must be NRDS" is not a "rule" "enforced" somewhere, but common sense. I have no idea why we should go after UK if they have common sense in Providence. Until you come up with a question thats at least tries to make sense, instead of mad rambling, you may wait for an answer as long as you wish, i dont care. Still, commenting on the "claiming" of space. I think i do not have to lecture you on the past and who set up the first and real NRDS in Providence. Regarding SF attacking CVA, despite claiming NRDS, CVA didnt intervene if members or holder alliances practized NBSI outside providence and just shot whom they were pleased to shoot at. This make a mockery of the whole CVA NRDS from the beginning, as any corporation being attacked by CVA and friends outside providence immediately became KOS in providence if they had the nerve to fight back. The strategy employed by CVA was thus a farce of NRDS from the start. In the last consequence this can be clearly seeing in CVA attacking -A- space, and calling them pirates if they have the nerve to fight back. Pathetic. As a final remark, there is also an important difference between "claiming" space via CONCORD protocols and system occupancy lists, and actually claiming space by enforcing rules or standings.
Cribb Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.06 11:29:00 - [44] 11B good luck and fly safe. It was a pleasure to roam with you. I do have mixed feelings about this. ------- When in doubt, play loud
Xina Tutor Amarr Black Arrows Sev3rance	Posted - 2010.03.06 11:33:00 - [45] You know... there is a lot of talk about NRDS, which is really not the issue. Simply, Sev3arance is all about maintaining open space where peaceful pilots can make use of 0.0 space. There are some limitations to this due to policies of pilots in other space, but generally the pilots of the cluster know the reality of providence free space. They know the spin when they see it, so spin away. And again... no -A- space was invaded. the systems were unclaimed, but again we all know that... in the end.... it's a trap!
Stratio Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.06 11:50:00 - [46] Edited by: Stratio on 06/03/2010 11:52:34 Originally by: EagleKnight11B 11B will definitely be stopping by the New Providence Block soon, because UK is the new providence. So ... instead of just hunting slavers you'll be hunting freedom fighters too now? I would laugh if it wasn't so sad. _____________________ For Tribe and Honour!
EagleKnight11B Caldari Mad Bombers	Posted - 2010.03.06 11:56:00 - [47] Edited by: EagleKnight11B on 06/03/2010 11:58:49 Edited by: EagleKnight11B on 06/03/2010 11:57:14 Originally by: Butter Dog Originally by: EagleKnight11B LOL how much of that did you copy and paste from UK forums? most of it, i don't believe in duplication of effort The thing is, I've always been entirely focused on killing Providencebloc, but I knew how it needed to be done. The difference between you and I, is that you thought this could be achieved by killing lone sansha hunters in small gang warfare - wheras I knew it could not be. I guess some of us just find it easier to see the bigger picture. The difference between you and us is that we never gave up or let down on the fight against Providence. Even in the snowstorm when it seemed impossible, 11B kept fighting. It was you and many UK pilots that gave up and only recently reemerged in opportunity. Now that the tide has come UKÆs way, UK pilots reach for entitlement which they previously have not. Meanwhile, UK pilots slander 11B efforts that have been in place for more then a year and a half. So be it! Bathe in your glory and newfound spirit, and p*ss on the warriors whom been fighting in the Providence trenches before this Glory Hole of an opportunity. Our members, other then Karn and a few others, are the last faithful of what UK used to be. The torch of resistance is passed to 11B!
Nosenhojh Mad Bombers	Posted - 2010.03.06 12:08:00 - [48] Originally by: Tirke Sad that you have to show your true colors on IGS, it would have been better handled internally no? You have been showing your ass in alliance chat for the month youve been in 11b, now on IGS? You're idea of freedom fighting is being "elite pvpers" who roam in vagbond squads and kill miners and ratters, then dont show up for group operations that are focused on sov warfare. All so you can point at your 99% effeciency and pat each other on the back for a job well done? Im disappointed, I know youre all good pilots but youre setting a terrible example and you obviously left UK in spirit some time ago and just came on IGS to air dirty laundry because no one cared that you left. The amount of ignorance UK pilots have shown to our contribution is rather amazing. Mad Bombers LIVED in hostile space. Speak all you like of how you joined CTA's and did your sov warfare, our agreement was to be exempt from such activities in exchange for living amongst the enemy and denying them use of their space. To this end we held up our bargain with great effect. Our interdiction operations denied the enemy use of entire constellations. The mention of UNITY station is quite amusing. The members that were so proud to join ops to take the system mysteriously dissapeared once we held the station. For 2 weeks it was a ghost town with broken services. Mad Bombers were the ONLY corporation who had the guts to live out of the station that so many claimed to be proud of. I ask you UK pilots, where were you when we were on the frontlines? Where were you when we took the fight to the enemy by living at their doorstep? The truth is you are oblivious to our operations because you hid safely in friendly space and awaited the Call To Arms, to claim you were part of the cause, to claim you mattered. How many new faces have we seen in the last few months? Pilots that suddenly emerge when victory seems easy, close. Pilots who were nowhere to be seen when things were challenging, when slaver oppression was at its peak and we were fighting on anyway. The warrior spirit that once drived many pilots has faded. We asked not for recognition, for glory. We asked to be free to live and die as warriors fighting our sworn enemies. Our leadership remained unwilling to keep us free from the restraints UK's new philosophy imposed and we were forced to cut loose. I wish I held no grudge against my former allies, but i find myself severely dissapointed in how quickly they turn and spout such lies. You will see us again, and you will know Mad Bombers as the people of providence know us. I only hope one day soon UK finds its way again and they can pursue the cause of freedom without sacrificing the heart and soul of their alliance in the process. Good Hunting
Tizian Enel Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.06 12:21:00 - [49] Originally by: EagleKnight11B So be it! Bathe in your glory and newfound spirit, and pss on the warriors whom been fighting in the Providence trenches before this Glory Hole of an opportunity. I wonder who is ***ing on whom right now. Personally I'm quite offended. I know I didn't quite reach the roaming levels 11B did. I have done the best I could ever since I got my pilots license. If this is betraying 11B somehow, so be it. I'm glad I've done it even.
Stratio Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.06 12:30:00 - [50] If you were basing out of 9UY, then you must surely agree that taking 9UY was a good thing? _____________________ For Tribe and Honour!

Kozmic Universal Army Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.06 12:41:00 - [51] Stay classy, 11B.
Victorick	Posted - 2010.03.06 12:43:00 - [52] Every word of this has summoned a feeling I have only felt once before, when I was fooled into believing the lies of the Amar. You are shooting this cause you fight so hard for in the leg, shredding it of all it once was, you have dipped your fingers in the pools of corruption yourself, your leaving is only justified by your inability to see the bigger picture, if you were part of it might I add. Do not insult the pride of UshraÆKhan you mindless piece of five bit data, lost within every bite I download to further my ability to kill the weak like you. We fight for freedom, and that has never changed. As a tree grows, it must dig its roots deeper, or we will fall and burn. Yet you believe we can live without these roots, without the foundation required to fight the slavers and rid their kind from existence. Do not insult UshraÆKhan by quoting the deaths of this war, we have saved millions. You and your pathetic group of weak Demi-Gods will be ripped to shreds, I promise you this. Remember my name Mad Bombers. Victorick a proud member of UshraÆKhan until I cease to exist myself.
EagleKnight11B Caldari Mad Bombers	Posted - 2010.03.06 12:47:00 - [53] Originally by: Victorick Every word of this has summoned a feeling I have only felt once before, when I was fooled into believing the lies of the Amar. You are shooting this cause you fight so hard for in the leg, shredding it of all it once was, you have dipped your fingers in the pools of corruption yourself, your leaving is only justified by your inability to see the bigger picture, if you were part of it might I add. Do not insult the pride of UshraÆKhan you mindless piece of five bit data, lost within every bite I download to further my ability to kill the weak like you. We fight for freedom, and that has never changed. As a tree grows, it must dig its roots deeper, or we will fall and burn. Yet you believe we can live without these roots, without the foundation required to fight the slavers and rid their kind from existence. Do not insult UshraÆKhan by quoting the deaths of this war, we have saved millions. You and your pathetic group of weak Demi-Gods will be ripped to shreds, I promise you this. Remember my name Mad Bombers. Victorick a proud member of UshraÆKhan until I cease to exist myself. Ohh boy. A five day old UK member being a "tough guy." I love it. Ok, so let's be tough guys. You wanna fight about it? Put your money where your 5 day old mouth is. Loser!
Victorick	Posted - 2010.03.06 12:52:00 - [54] Originally by: EagleKnight11B Originally by: Victorick Every word of this has summoned a feeling I have only felt once before, when I was fooled into believing the lies of the Amar. You are shooting this cause you fight so hard for in the leg, shredding it of all it once was, you have dipped your fingers in the pools of corruption yourself, your leaving is only justified by your inability to see the bigger picture, if you were part of it might I add. Do not insult the pride of UshraÆKhan you mindless piece of five bit data, lost within every bite I download to further my ability to kill the weak like you. We fight for freedom, and that has never changed. As a tree grows, it must dig its roots deeper, or we will fall and burn. Yet you believe we can live without these roots, without the foundation required to fight the slavers and rid their kind from existence. Do not insult UshraÆKhan by quoting the deaths of this war, we have saved millions. You and your pathetic group of weak Demi-Gods will be ripped to shreds, I promise you this. Remember my name Mad Bombers. Victorick a proud member of UshraÆKhan until I cease to exist myself. Ohh boy. A five day old UK member being a "tough guy." I love it. Ok, so let's be tough guys. You wanna fight about it? Put your money where your 5 day old mouth is. Loser! Haha! This is all you can offer me? Some mindless vomit about how long I have been installed here? It seems Mad Bombers really are just the weakest link here, but I won't stop you from proving me wrong.
Vinndel Gallente Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.06 12:53:00 - [55] Originally by: EagleKnight11B Originally by: Victorick Every word of this has summoned a feeling I have only felt once before, when I was fooled into believing the lies of the Amar. You are shooting this cause you fight so hard for in the leg, shredding it of all it once was, you have dipped your fingers in the pools of corruption yourself, your leaving is only justified by your inability to see the bigger picture, if you were part of it might I add. Do not insult the pride of UshraÆKhan you mindless piece of five bit data, lost within every bite I download to further my ability to kill the weak like you. We fight for freedom, and that has never changed. As a tree grows, it must dig its roots deeper, or we will fall and burn. Yet you believe we can live without these roots, without the foundation required to fight the slavers and rid their kind from existence. Do not insult UshraÆKhan by quoting the deaths of this war, we have saved millions. You and your pathetic group of weak Demi-Gods will be ripped to shreds, I promise you this. Remember my name Mad Bombers. Victorick a proud member of UshraÆKhan until I cease to exist myself. Ohh boy. A five day old UK member being a "tough guy." I love it. Ok, so let's be tough guys. You wanna fight about it? Put your money where your 5 day old mouth is. Loser! I'm sure he does want to fight about it, and the way things are going he just might, but so will everyone else.
EagleKnight11B Caldari Mad Bombers	Posted - 2010.03.06 13:00:00 - [56] How about I role play a little more, considering how totally awesome your 5 day status holds. Better yet: You qualify for council! Good job chicken technician! Here is your totally awesome role play: Thou be turd in corrupt alliance. Why thou be upset young lamb, did ribald Sapphrine make haste to thou? I really do not know why UK is letting you post!
Vinndel Gallente Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.06 13:02:00 - [57] Edited by: Vinndel on 06/03/2010 13:03:26 Originally by: EagleKnight11B How about I role play a little more, considering how totally awesome your 5 day status holds. Better yet: You qualify for council! Good job chicken technician! Here is your totally awesome role play: Thou be turd in corrupt alliance. Why thou be upset young lamb, did ribald Sapphrine make haste to thou? I really do not know why UK is letting you post! ((you're on the wrong forum mate))
Stratio Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.06 13:09:00 - [58] Pilot EagleKnight11B, are you intending to answer my questions, or are you now just being a troll? _____________________ For Tribe and Honour!
GrimmRipper	Posted - 2010.03.06 13:12:00 - [59] Don't worry my little bombers UK will get they're share of betrail from AAA.
Nebulous Minmatar Salvage Junkies	Posted - 2010.03.06 13:13:00 - [60] When did IGS become CAOD? ----------------------------------------------



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