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Spurty
Caldari
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.03.06 14:16:00 -
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So march 10th is almost here.
Who has remapping remorse from over doing the wrong pair of skills?
Who held off until this remap to train certain skill?
Personally, I need to up my int / mem for drone love this remap
 Originally by: Hurley
I WAS NOT QUITTING SoT AND WAS NOT THINKING ABOUT JOINING IT. PL/SoT MADE A MISTAKE AND ARE NOT MAN ENOUGH TO ADMIT IT OR FIX IT.
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Some Advisor
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Posted - 2010.03.06 14:17:00 -
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ill take it 10. march is the 1. anniversary then? :P
hmmm, need to remap i guess
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Psychotic Maniac
Caldari
Head Shrinkers
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Posted - 2010.03.06 14:41:00 -
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Edited by: Psychotic Maniac on 06/03/2010 14:41:44
unless you need fighter bombers forget mem.
perc./intel best combo.
having most all the supports trained and not worried about leadership.
going perc./wp for cross-training every race sc and weapons.
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Scout Ops
Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.03.06 14:57:00 -
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Most important attributes, overall:
#1 Perception (30%)
#2 Intelligence (27%)
#3 Memory (21%)
#4 Willpower (18%)
#5 Charisma (4%)
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Callista Sincera
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.03.06 15:17:00 -
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Was perc/wp and will probably go for int/mem next - but not right away since there is still some more perc/wp stuff I got to finish first.
Really nice to train all those gunnery and spaceship command skills at 2673 sp/min for a year straight.
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Alex V0X2
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.03.06 15:45:00 -
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I am lows on charismas :( Please lub me :(
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Mashie Saldana
Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.03.06 15:58:00 -
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It's another 463 days until I'm swapping over to int/mem for a ~500d run with that attribute mix.
The whole min/maxing do cause a fair bit of regret when you find out you have to do an int/mem skill for two weeks in the middle.
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Ashira Twilight
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Posted - 2010.03.06 17:00:00 -
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I have yet to do a remap, and I have three accounts. I do plan on doing one next year, maybe.
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Banana Torres
The Green Banana Corporation
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Posted - 2010.03.06 17:03:00 -
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Spurty, after you have upped your intelligence a bit, do you think you wil be able to select the correct forum to post in?
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Drykor
Minmatar
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2010.03.06 17:58:00 -
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Trained a LOT of perception/willpower skills for the last year, but not quite done yet. I'm gonna remap around July again and then do a year of max willpower and some charisma points, to get all T2 ship skills to 5 and max out my leadership tree.
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AdmiralJohn
The Unknown Bar and Pub
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Posted - 2010.03.06 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: Banana Torres
Spurty, after you have upped your intelligence a bit, do you think you wil be able to select the correct forum to post in?
I giggled.
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TimMc
Gallente
Trans-Solar Works
Rooks and Kings
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Posted - 2010.03.06 19:06:00 -
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After having 2 years of high memory, it was nice to have a whole year training pure perception/will skills. Soon I will probably remap to balanced attributes (ignoring charisma obviously).
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Contralto
GCHQ
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Posted - 2010.03.06 19:27:00 -
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I am maxed in Int/mem atm. next is perc/will so I can cross train some ship/weapons skills. But I intend to hold off until Tyrannis to see if a lot of new skills are introduced.
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Ryhss
Caldari
42nd Airborn
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Posted - 2010.03.06 19:37:00 -
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I still have 1 remap from when I first created my toon in Apr '09. I dissagree that cha is not important. Some people play the social game with thier skills, not me but some do. I myself like a balanced skillset. My cha is only 18, everything else is 21-22. And sometimes I regret falling for the "cha is not needed" thing but oh well.
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Callista Sincera
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.03.06 21:28:00 -
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Originally by: Ryhss
And sometimes I regret falling for the "cha is not needed" thing but oh well.
Uh, what? Do you intend to train a lot of trade-, social-, leadership- or corp management-skills to level 5? If not, you don't need it. Usually not even if you plan some to level 4 since you gain a lot more time by training your primary skills at maxspeed then you lose by having to train a couple of days at minimum speeds for those few charisma-based skills.
I think the only other skillsection that makes some remote use of that attribute is learnings, where it's used as a secondary in the rank3 version of the wp learning and primary for the rank3 charisma skill (obviously). That's about it.
In any case, EveMONs skillplanner can tell you which attributes you will want to max.
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JBS2
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Posted - 2010.03.07 03:22:00 -
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You know.....I had completely forgotten all about remaps....guess it's time to look at my attributes again.
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Spurty
Caldari
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.03.07 10:57:00 -
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Originally by: Banana Torres
Spurty, after you have upped your intelligence a bit, do you think you wil be able to select the correct forum to post in?
There is a skill mapping forum?
Learn something new every day
Originally by: Hurley
I WAS NOT QUITTING SoT AND WAS NOT THINKING ABOUT JOINING IT. PL/SoT MADE A MISTAKE AND ARE NOT MAN ENOUGH TO ADMIT IT OR FIX IT.
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Winters Chill
Amarr
Shadow Legion.
Talos Coalition
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Posted - 2010.03.07 11:04:00 -
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Just a guess but,
I'd keep it until after tyrannis.
Those evil dictators sure are a charismatic bunch... Dealing with people through "treaties and deals" they must surely be skilled socially, yes, its just logical.
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Drykor
Minmatar
Tribal Liberation Force
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Posted - 2010.03.07 11:15:00 -
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Originally by: Callista Sincera
Originally by: Ryhss
And sometimes I regret falling for the "cha is not needed" thing but oh well.
Uh, what? Do you intend to train a lot of trade-, social-, leadership- or corp management-skills to level 5? If not, you don't need it. Usually not even if you plan some to level 4 since you gain a lot more time by training your primary skills at maxspeed then you lose by having to train a couple of days at minimum speeds for those few charisma-based skills.
I think the only other skillsection that makes some remote use of that attribute is learnings, where it's used as a secondary in the rank3 version of the wp learning and primary for the rank3 charisma skill (obviously). That's about it.
In any case, EveMONs skillplanner can tell you which attributes you will want to max.
Not quite right.. in my case Evemon is telling me my charisma needs to be my second highest attribute for the upcoming year. I already have wing command 3 and all basic leadership skills to 4 and armored warfare specialist to 4 as well. To get them all to advanced 5 and get fleet command, I will be needing charisma.
Keep in mind I'm not training ANY other charisma related skill here and I already have 5/4 in charisma learning skills, further increasing the speed in which these skills will be done. So charisma in a remap can be useful.
But for most people who don't follow a strict plan, it won't be so necessary.
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Mike Takumi
Caldari
hirr
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2010.03.07 11:33:00 -
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Originally by: Spurty
Originally by: Banana Torres
Spurty, after you have upped your intelligence a bit, do you think you wil be able to select the correct forum to post in?
There is a skill mapping forum?
Learn something new every day
Indeed there is
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Typhado3
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.03.07 11:33:00 -
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aahh, my maxed out charisma will wear out soon.
used it to completely max out the leadership skills (FC 5 4tw, social skills are mostly 5, quite a few trade skills are at 5 and some corp management skills as well (still working on POS guns 5).
The only question now, is do I switch over to my planned perc/will for training gunnery/missile/spaceship as soon as possible or should I wait for tyranasaur in case it brings in a new set of char skills.... I still have a bit over a month to decide I'm just hoping info on our dyno themed update comes early.
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Spurty
Caldari
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2010.03.07 12:03:00 -
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I browse forums on my Droid. I had a hard time spotting it, but once you said it was there, I went looking. Thanks for the tip.
Originally by: Hurley
I WAS NOT QUITTING SoT AND WAS NOT THINKING ABOUT JOINING IT. PL/SoT MADE A MISTAKE AND ARE NOT MAN ENOUGH TO ADMIT IT OR FIX IT.
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Joe Astor
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2010.03.07 12:24:00 -
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I wasted my main's remap to balance out my points.
Think I might do Willpower/Perception on the 17th when my remap is available.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2010.03.07 13:05:00 -
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9 months in to my max Perc then Will remap and liking it much.
I was pretty much Int/Mem before, so I was well supplied with support skills already. Still got about 11 months left on my subcap command, gunnery and missiles skillplan
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CCP Zymurgist
Gallente
C C P
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Posted - 2010.03.07 15:55:00 -
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Moved to Skill Discussions.
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Dr Caymus
Gallente
Applied Technologies Inc
Agents of Fortune
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Posted - 2010.03.07 17:12:00 -
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Remapping to Perception/Willpower has worked out well for me. A year has been enough time to train some halfway respectable Spaceship Command and Gunnery skills, areas that I was grossly deficient in before the remap. The only down side has been in holding off on training Science skills, causing me to slip quite a bit in the standings.
I'm torn between several options on what to do with the next remap. Options include:
1. sticking with P/W for awhile longer
2. flipping to W/P to work on T2 ship skills
3. switching back to Intelligence to build my Navigation skills and to catch back up with the Science leaders
4. switching to Memory to work on Drone skills to go with my new Gallante ship skills
or possibly
5. swithching to Charisma to work on Leadership, Social and Trade skills (I know this one sounds totally ludicrous, but believe it or not, there's a year's worth of this stuff that can be trained)
It's even tempting to go with a balanced set of attributes for a year, which would facilitate training a little of everything. Guess I'll have to decide pretty soon.
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Sniperpirate
Minmatar
Infinite Improbability Inc
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2010.03.08 08:31:00 -
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After being 90% pvp orientated character, im finding it hard to go any other way than intel/ memory for another year.
drones - not enough for a year
leadership/social/trade - i don't need these skills very much - but it wouldn't be a 15/9 setup
will/per - could do this to max every t2 ship to lvl 5 - but not really worth my time since i have maxed my ship of choice.
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fivetide humidyear
Gallente
Fool Mental Junket
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Posted - 2010.03.08 14:51:00 -
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Edited by: fivetide humidyear on 08/03/2010 14:51:30
will switch from the max perc / willpower clone sometime this year when i have finished t2 ship skills to 5, useable skills in heavy missiles and torps and I get bored of tagging off large gunnery specs to 5 / moar t3 skills.
then it's a average clone for a year to max out the last few support skills (armour compensations to 5, thermodynamics 5, navigation skills to 5, probing skills etc.) and see what new shinys ccp puts into the next patch
there are 4 or 5 skills i wish i had to 5 that i'm holding on (the compensations, and navigation ones) till remap. having to do a couple of subsystem skills was slightly irritating but the time i've saved doing the remap is still massively in the black.
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Valrandir
Gallente
Elemental Mercury
Dystopia Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.08 15:32:00 -
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After one year of training pure intel/memory skills, it is now time to remap for perc/will and train spaceship command for one year.
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Orree
Dynaverse Corporation
Sodalitas XX
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Posted - 2010.03.08 19:32:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Astor
I wasted my main's remap to balance out my points.
Think I might do Willpower/Perception on the 17th when my remap is available.
I did the same with my first remap. I guess after having a base 3 perception for so long as an Intaki, I was only too happy to merely have a "decent" perception score and have my attributes balanced overall.
When I can next remap (end of this month), I will most assuredly be putting together a training plan and optimizing. I put a preliminary plan together last night as saw I could save about 55 days of training by optimizing. That's pretty powerful assuming one can stick to the plan.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
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Posted - 2010.03.08 21:28:00 -
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probably stay in per/wp for the next 6months or so. My missile and calari ship skills need some lovin.
then over to int/mem for a year of the support skills I cba to do before. I ended up with a surprisingly long list.
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Drahcir Nasom
Independent Manufacturers
Independent Manufacturers Alliance
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Posted - 2010.03.08 23:20:00 -
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Dr C
Originally by: Dr Caymus
I'm torn between several options on what to do with the next remap.
You're not the only one. I remapped to Int/Mem last year. I have a skill plan for Int/Mem which is 578 days, and a Perc/Will I could move to which would be 503 days, but I'm worried that I change to the Perc/Will and Tyrannis will bring in a load of Int/Mem industry skills for the planetary production.
I think you should definitely go for the balanced set, that way I might catch you up a bit on total SP 
Drahcir
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Dr Caymus
Gallente
Applied Technologies Inc
Agents of Fortune
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Posted - 2010.03.09 02:05:00 -
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Originally by: Drahcir Nasom
I think you should definitely go for the balanced set, that way I might catch you up a bit on total SP
LOL, well I guess I'll eliminate that option...
I'm actually leaning toward waiting on a remap until we know what new skills Tyrannis might bring. I obviously have plenty of room to train more P/W skills. The only down-side is seeing how far ahead of me Qual is getting in the Science race 
Dr Caymus
Applied Technologies Inc (ATI)
M-Spec Industrial Resources Ltd (MTLS)
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