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Belfist	Posted - 2010.03.06 16:03:00 - [1] Hello Community, i know the following case isn't a kind of piracy but it's one of terrorism. So i just want to hear your opinion to this facts and maybe you're able to help us out of these hopeless situation. Me and a friend playing Eve since round about 4 weeks because of another friend who's ingame known as KiAdiMundi. For sure he was in a Corp (called Reborn Falcons) and we tought about to join them, too. But after some days with them in Teamspeak they told us something about regroup in another Corp, now known as "Ordo Iustitia", without KiAdi. Therefore we decided to build up our own Corp (Bountyhunter Ltd.) where we are able to play together. But three days ago they send us a declaration of war. Now we're unable to run missions, trading or simply fly arround because in every case they meet us they're starting fire. How do you think about this? If this war goes on there is no reason to continue playing Eve. Please help us. Fly Safe and with best regards Belfist (Bountyhunter Ltd.)
Alt Tabbed	Posted - 2010.03.06 16:10:00 - [2] Bountyhunter Ltd. Sounds kinda Limited. First. Welcome to EvE. Second. You'll either grow a pair, or not, but either way, a WarDec does not prohibit you from playing.
Giannamichaels	Posted - 2010.03.06 16:14:00 - [3] Edited by: Giannamichaels on 06/03/2010 16:15:07 The only option if your genuinely considering quitting eve is to all drop out of the corp into the default npc corp. Then make a channel and all join it, you cannot be war decced in the starter npc corp however there is an 11% tax rate in it. This is the only way out for you if you wont or cant fight back. Then you can get back to what you were doing. Ive been in the same boat as you myself its not nice when your new and outnumbered and cant fight back. The corp name is also highly inappropriate for scared new carebears.
Ran Khanon Amarr Vengeance Innovations	Posted - 2010.03.06 16:16:00 - [4] Edited by: Ran Khanon on 06/03/2010 16:18:25 Edited by: Ran Khanon on 06/03/2010 16:17:03 You can, in no particular order; 1. drop corp and find yourself in a wardec free noobcorp 2. surrender and/or try to reason with them to stop the war 3. hire mercs 4. man up and try to get some pvp experience with the little isk / skills you have 5. spin your ships in station until they get bored 6. hope for a knight in shining armor in this thread 7. quit playing edit: counting to seven is really hard Support Lana's new bounty system.
Marko Riva Adamant Inc.	Posted - 2010.03.06 16:18:00 - [5] Wardeccing real newbs is meh, on the other hand you need to realise that you can't "just" do stuff because there's always someone that takes offense, gets interested or whatever. So making your own corp made you vulnerable to being wardecced and you or your friends probably did something to warrant the other's attention. Running a proper corp requires you to know what's going on and have experience and you just found out why. Advise: drop that corp and join EVE-university or something similar. Or at LEAST a proper, active corp with more than just 20 members so you can learn the game and try out different things. Being in your own corp with other newbies is a great way to shield yourself from knowledge and experience. ----------- I think, therefore I'm single. Want to learn combat/PVP? Alliance creation service
Belfist	Posted - 2010.03.06 16:19:00 - [6] Edited by: Belfist on 06/03/2010 16:23:35 Edited by: Belfist on 06/03/2010 16:21:16 At first thx to everyone who will answer here :D Originally by: Alt Tabbed Bountyhunter Ltd. Sounds kinda Limited. First. Welcome to EvE. Second. You'll either grow a pair, or not, but either way, a WarDec does not prohibit you from playing. Today i nearly lost my Drake because they were camping in front of the station. The only thing i can do online is just put new skills into my skillqueue. All of you speaking like one voice. Thx for your advices. I'll think about this. Thx a lot
Spruillo	Posted - 2010.03.06 16:26:00 - [7] Knight in Shining armor reporting front and center Will not save you Ill help you save yourself Only thing that makes a corp worth anything is the longer term benifits of POS's, jump clones, etc. Which you can do anyway through personal standings. Yall are obviously not at this level yet so... A: Pull all assets, drop the lame corp, form a new lame corp everybody rejoin and hope they are dumb enough to dec it for enhanced lulz at the moneys they have continued to foolishly mismanage and loose. B:??? C:Profit
Alt Tabbed	Posted - 2010.03.06 16:27:00 - [8] Originally by: Belfist Edited by: Belfist on 06/03/2010 16:23:35 Edited by: Belfist on 06/03/2010 16:21:16 At first thx to everyone who will answer here :D Originally by: Alt Tabbed Bountyhunter Ltd. Sounds kinda Limited. First. Welcome to EvE. Second. You'll either grow a pair, or not, but either way, a WarDec does not prohibit you from playing. Today i nearly lost my Drake because they were camping in front of the station. The only thing i can do online is just put new skills into my skillqueue. All of you speaking like one voice. Thx for your advices. I'll think about this. Thx a lot You can do alot more than insert skills while under a war dec. ALOT more. BTW: here's a little hint for you. Never ever ever ever dock up while in a war with station campers. This just gives them "You" in a station...to be camped. Just fly to a safe spot and log for the night. There are other things you could do..insta undocks and such but...at this point you may find those hard to make.
Gladys Pank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.03.06 16:38:00 - [9] So your real life friend got you guys to join up and has now wardeced you? I suggest better friends Take this as a learning opportunity and get some pew on... Check out some of the guides to PVP that are about. If they are camping you into station you can fit some cheap insured ships and try to take out some of their more expensive ships. Even if you lose you are hopefully doing them more damage, or at least getting some experience If you really don't want to fight, there are ways of escaping their camps. Learn to relocate and if you keep evading them they will soon get bored jumping around empire trying to catch you. ~ Soar Like a Penguin
Gladys Pank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.03.06 16:40:00 - [10] Originally by: Alt Tabbed There are other things you could do..insta undocks and such but...at this point you may find those hard to make. Pretty easy to roll an alt to do this, it takes no skill. ~ Soar Like a Penguin

Belfist Caldari Bountyhunter Ltd.	Posted - 2010.03.06 16:42:00 - [11] Edited by: Belfist on 06/03/2010 16:43:21 Edited by: Belfist on 06/03/2010 16:42:59 Originally by: Gladys Pank So your real life friend got you guys to join up and has now wardeced you? I suggest better friends No you just misunderstood. Maybe i explained the situation not that well My friend KiAdiMundi is allready with us in our new corp and his former CEO from his old crop wardeced us.
Gladys Pank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.03.06 16:51:00 - [12] Ah, that sounds better Well, how many are in your new corp? Reborn Falcons look to be a fairly incompetent bunch of PVPers so you have a good chance of at least taking out some of their ships. How many do they use to camp you into station? ~ Soar Like a Penguin
Creepy Goat Schindlers Ignore List	Posted - 2010.03.06 17:09:00 - [13] Maybe we can help
Shiho Weitong Caldari Red Federation	Posted - 2010.03.06 17:14:00 - [14] From CCP to you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgvM7av1o1Q Also: Welcome to EVE. /Serious: If you want to avoid wardecs and you really do want to have your own corp, don't make such a name. And keep low. If this is simply a griefdec because the corp lost a player, take it as a cudoes to you. They are actually using time on you guys. Take the opportunity to pew them back a bit.You'll lose, but you'll learn. /serious off AHAHAHAHAHA NOOBS GOT DECCED AND ARE CRYING!!! SUCH SWEET TEARS!!!!!1111ONEONEONE!!!11!! ----------- Why is it called common sense, when it's clearly very rare. I had a mind once, but alas, I seem to have forgotten where I left it. Originally by: Tchell Dahhn You win, and thank you.
Freyr Ashen Black Fury Chain of Chaos	Posted - 2010.03.06 17:16:00 - [15] \o/ Wardec weee, train up for blackbirds, omens, ruptures and thoraxes.. Man up, Gang up.. and enjoy the better part of eve
Alt Tabbed	Posted - 2010.03.06 17:28:00 - [16] Originally by: Gladys Pank Originally by: Alt Tabbed There are other things you could do..insta undocks and such but...at this point you may find those hard to make. Pretty easy to roll an alt to do this, it takes no skill. While true...it may be a few shades harder based on the OPs noobness and current level of game mechanics understanding. I'm sure you could help him understand how to accomplish this if/when he asks.
Ard UnjiiGo The Tuskers	Posted - 2010.03.06 17:31:00 - [17] OP said "terrorism". Welcome to EVE. Listen to the advice above. Never whine again about another player going out of their way to ruin your game experience. This is EVE you are playing. And never, I mean NEVER, call someone's playstyle in a video game "terrorism" again or risk being branded an idiot for the remainder of your time here. Good luck.
Freyr Ashen Black Fury Chain of Chaos	Posted - 2010.03.06 17:35:00 - [18] Originally by: Ard UnjiiGo OP said "terrorism". , call someone's playstyle in a video game "terrorism" again or risk being branded an idiot for the remainder of your time here. u must b american terrorists should get a free lifetime sub to eve for gankin the us..
Millie Clode Amarr Standards and Practices	Posted - 2010.03.06 17:37:00 - [19] 1.Fit up the biggest ship you can afford with the biggest tank you can afford and a rack of smartbombs. 2.Charge into their gang while shouting LEEEEEROOOOOOY in local. 3.????? 4.Lossmail! ---------- Sig Page 1 Snipah YOU CANT MINE SO YOU KILL
Marko Riva Adamant Inc.	Posted - 2010.03.06 17:41:00 - [20] Originally by: Alt Tabbed Originally by: Gladys Pank Originally by: Alt Tabbed There are other things you could do..insta undocks and such but...at this point you may find those hard to make. Pretty easy to roll an alt to do this, it takes no skill. While true...it may be a few shades harder based on the OPs noobness and current level of game mechanics understanding. I'm sure you could help him understand how to accomplish this if/when he asks. I mailed him my youtube channel link with exactly those kinds of tutorials. ----------- I think, therefore I'm single. Want to learn combat/PVP? Alliance creation service

Ard UnjiiGo The Tuskers	Posted - 2010.03.06 17:44:00 - [21] Originally by: Freyr Ashen Originally by: Ard UnjiiGo OP said "terrorism". , call someone's playstyle in a video game "terrorism" again or risk being branded an idiot for the remainder of your time here. Look at me C&P! I'm an idiot. Chain of Chaos
Freyr Ashen Black Fury Chain of Chaos	Posted - 2010.03.06 17:50:00 - [22] felt offended did ya unjigo? :P
Zions Child Caldari Carthage Industries Consortium.	Posted - 2010.03.06 17:59:00 - [23] Originally by: Belfist Hello Community, i know the following case isn't a kind of piracy but it's one of terrorism. So i just want to hear your opinion to this facts and maybe you're able to help us out of these hopeless situation. Me and a friend playing Eve since round about 4 weeks because of another friend who's ingame known as KiAdiMundi. For sure he was in a Corp (called Reborn Falcons) and we tought about to join them, too. But after some days with them in Teamspeak they told us something about regroup in another Corp, now known as "Ordo Iustitia", without KiAdi. Therefore we decided to build up our own Corp (Bountyhunter Ltd.) where we are able to play together. But three days ago they send us a declaration of war. Now we're unable to run missions, trading or simply fly arround because in every case they meet us they're starting fire. How do you think about this? If this war goes on there is no reason to continue playing Eve. Please help us. Fly Safe and with best regards Belfist (Bountyhunter Ltd.) Read the Beginner's Guide to Piracy, it explains some of the mechanics that you'll be needing to fight them off in the war. You don't have to pirate, but it will help you learn how to PvP at least a little bit. Realize the only way to learn is to go out there and do it. Also, It's always a nice idea to go out and make your own corp, sounds like a great idea when you're starting out. Then you realize none of you know how to run a corp, and you bumble through you're learning experience. Best to drop the corp, and join a different corp. Maybe one of the academies for a larger corp, or as someone said, Eve-Uni. Honestly, noob corps don't teach you what you need to know, and if they decced you over losing a member, then they sound like a noob corp as well. It's very difficult to learn on your own in this game, so take advantage of the sheer quantity of knowledge available to you. Also, C&P is filled with bitter, jaded, horrible people, whose only purpose is laugh at your tears and consume your soul. Especially Spank. She's one of the worst of the bunch. >.> <.< DONT HURT ME SPANK! I WUV YOU!!!! _________________________________________________________________ You just lost the game, my friend... Wrong! - Cortes
Kaian Voskhod	Posted - 2010.03.06 18:02:00 - [24] Edited by: Kaian Voskhod on 06/03/2010 18:02:13 well... this is what i do I have an alt with some "i", some "L" and some "O" in the name. These letters can be swapped with others. Example MORMON can be written in 4 different way using the "zero" . M0RMON MORM0N M0RM0N this can be barely be distinguished in game. Now imagine you apply this trick to clones of your main and clones of your corp. When wardecced, you exchange fake alt with your main from the "fake" corp to the "true" one, then you move to the fake corp while the true one being still wardecced. Well, you can even try to concordoken your opponents if they tend to shoot before thinking (shooting at a guy with bad standings just moved in a same name corp but not at war, huh???? bug???!!!!one one eleven !!!... I did that ^ ^. I myself a Yarrbear (casual pirate/griefer) and while people wardec my main, they can't wardec the good corp, I'm always moving... Yes, i think it's cheating. Welcome to Eve (until dev's send me a mail saying: stop that **** or ban hammer ^ ^.
Ard UnjiiGo The Tuskers	Posted - 2010.03.06 18:14:00 - [25] Originally by: Freyr Ashen felt offended did ya unjigo? :P Don't be silly. Why should I be offended by your stupidity? It only hurts you.
Gladys Pank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.03.06 19:10:00 - [26] Originally by: Zions Child Also, C&P is filled with bitter, jaded, horrible people, whose only purpose is laugh at your tears and consume your soul. Especially Spank. She's one of the worst of the bunch. >.> <.< DONT HURT ME SPANK! I WUV YOU!!!! I think you need to reread what I said here. I was being helpful. I only disapprove of the pathetic trolls, wimps who need to alt post to smack and crybabies. Wardec incoming. ~ Soar Like a Penguin
Zions Child Caldari Carthage Industries Consortium.	Posted - 2010.03.06 19:15:00 - [27] Originally by: Gladys Pank Originally by: Zions Child Also, C&P is filled with bitter, jaded, horrible people, whose only purpose is laugh at your tears and consume your soul. Especially Spank. She's one of the worst of the bunch. >.> <.< DONT HURT ME SPANK! I WUV YOU!!!! I think you need to reread what I said here. I was being helpful. I only disapprove of the pathetic trolls, wimps who need to alt post to smack and crybabies. Wardec incoming. Spank, it was clearly a joke. Internet sarcasm only.... _________________________________________________________________ You just lost the game, my friend... Wrong! - Cortes
Glonn Amarr Vivicide Vivisection.	Posted - 2010.03.06 19:38:00 - [28] I recommend hardening the **** up (HTFU) and joining a corp that will help you. I recommend ProCorp as they helped me when I started off Not a night in shining armor. I'm a pirate. Argg! [url=http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Glonn][/url]
Ran Khanon Amarr Vengeance Innovations	Posted - 2010.03.06 20:13:00 - [29] Originally by: Glonn Not a night in shining armor. Hmm, how about a night in white satin? Support Lana's new bounty system.
Gladys Pank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2010.03.06 21:23:00 - [30] Originally by: Zions Child Originally by: Gladys Pank Originally by: Zions Child Also, C&P is filled with bitter, jaded, horrible people, whose only purpose is laugh at your tears and consume your soul. Especially Spank. She's one of the worst of the bunch. >.> <.< DONT HURT ME SPANK! I WUV YOU!!!! I think you need to reread what I said here. I was being helpful. I only disapprove of the pathetic trolls, wimps who need to alt post to smack and crybabies. Wardec incoming. Spank, it was clearly a joke. Internet sarcasm only.... I should have ended the message with a Wardec still incoming. ~ Soar Like a Penguin



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