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Zhana Agonskaya	Posted - 2010.03.08 10:01:00 - [1] ok, so I am new to steam, thought I would have a look through the games and see whats what, but what is x3? like a single player eve? civilization type game? c&c in space? could someone tell me what kind of game this is? please? thanks Zhana
justin666	Posted - 2010.03.08 10:03:00 - [2] its rubbish...made the mistake of paying 30 pound for a sh@t game
ReaperOfSly Gallente Heavens Gate Consortium Dead Reckoning Alliance	Posted - 2010.03.08 10:31:00 - [3] Originally by: justin666 its rubbish...made the mistake of paying 30 pound for a sh@t game Quoting someone who never made it past figuring out the controls. Yeah, I can see why some people think it's rubbish. It just dumps you in the middle of the game universe and expects you to know how to play. The controls are not particularly intuitive, and there are a lot of features which don't get explained and you have to figure them out for yourself. Kind of like Eve in that respect. It's a space sandbox game. Sort of like single player Eve, but you fly your ship manually. You can also command other ships you own to do stuff for you. It's only 20 quid now, and personally I think it's well worth it. ____________________
Suneai Gallente The Scope	Posted - 2010.03.08 11:26:00 - [4] I'd say think about a shooter in space, you can go first or third person. It is a single player game and easily the most beautiful space game you could play to date. Terran Conflict is the finale for the series, you don't need the previous games but if you want to be immersed in the full story then I'd recommend playing through the whole series. A lot of people are thrown off from the game series because it isn't the easiest thing to pick up; X3: Reunion was a bit harsh and threw a lot of people into the deep end where NPCs don't wait for you to get your bearings. I'd say Terran Conflict is a little more friendly than the previous game but can still be a little harsh if you don't pay attention. Personally I'd definitely recommend the series, it'll take a bit of time and commitment to learn everything (but playing EVE you should be used to that)... it is more than worth the time. You can download a demo if you want to get a feel the game first. I'd suggest doing the demo for X3: Reunion and X3: Terran Conflict to get a feel of the more recent change within the series. Note that the game would pull away some (or a good chunk of it if you get sucked in) of your time from EVE though.
Dupre Indelian	Posted - 2010.03.08 11:30:00 - [5] It is indeed a bit like EVE, but the learning curve is even higher, you practically thrown in the middle of space, without knowing what to do. Trade, Fight, Build, Think is the Motto and the game expects you to set your own goals. I enjoyed it, but it is certainly not a game for those who like to have everything handed to them. When X3:TC is too strong, then you are too weak!
FlameGlow Rebellion Alliance	Posted - 2010.03.08 14:11:00 - [6] X3:TC storyline missions are way too simple and rewarding compared to X3:Reunion missions, and in many cases nothing depends on you. Esp in terran line - capturing M6 or final mission do stuff as asked and fail or don't do it, result is same as if you succeed. Well, you can just ignore the plot and go do whatever you please and come back to it when you feel like it anyway. Furthermore, you're already reading my sig
X1994 Gallente	Posted - 2010.03.08 14:31:00 - [7] Awesome game IMO, but very difficult to get into.
Rawr Cristina Caldari Omerta Syndicate	Posted - 2010.03.08 14:33:00 - [8] X2 and X3 are imo better if you want an actual plot/story to follow (even if they're short).. TC kind of just puts you out there and lets you decide for yourself. - Malyutka (The Virus) -
Gneeznow Minmatar Ship spinners inc	Posted - 2010.03.08 16:10:00 - [9] great game, very addictive once you get into it, if you do get it, download the MARS fire control mod it will make your life a lot easier, trouble is at later stages in the game it tends to grind my PC to a halt which makes it unplayable, so be aware you're gonna need a pretty good PC to keep up with it at later stages
Irida Mershkov Gallente Honour Before Death Nominis Expers	Posted - 2010.03.08 16:49:00 - [10] Reinstalled it last night as this rig runs it max spec with no slowdown (until I get complexes lol). Any reccomendations on where to start? Lost my old super file with a quarter of space mine.
Lance Fighter Amarr	Posted - 2010.03.08 17:20:00 - [11] Originally by: Irida Mershkov Reinstalled it last night as this rig runs it max spec with no slowdown (until I get complexes lol). Any reccomendations on where to start? Lost my old super file with a quarter of space mine. for me its always the inevitable grind up to a m6 with marines, and from there, usually pure profit. Of course, then they nerfed that strategy.. it actually takes a bucketload of trained marines to take anything, and I cant figure out the damned missile frigates. I cant seem to get the pods to connect, and I refuse to fly them myself. I suppose its always an option to steal defenseless TLs in core systems, but usually I mod those away (among many other changes) My empire is usually founded on marines.. And it usually doesnt fail me. Usually >.> OHGODS BELOW THIS LINE IS MY SIG !!!! SRSLY! Blane Xero > Lance is at -0.9 sec status with a 1 million bounty. Lance is also amarrian. Thats 3 evil points
Chaos Incarnate Faceless Logistics	Posted - 2010.03.08 17:46:00 - [12] Originally by: Irida Mershkov Reinstalled it last night as this rig runs it max spec with no slowdown (until I get complexes lol). Any reccomendations on where to start? Lost my old super file with a quarter of space mine. Get lots of mods; favorites are racial response fleets, NPC salvagers, Salvage claim software and NPC bailing addon. fly to the nearest battle and beat the other guys to picking up the scraps from big fleet fights; repeat until you can afford a bucketload of decent marines and start stealing capital ships and build megacomplexes There's also a nice mod that squishes complexes together into a big factory box to reduce lag, although they obviously won't look as pretty compared to the ones made with the factory complex constructor (which is AWESOME) _____________________ Horrors! Demons in the deep!
Lance Fighter Amarr	Posted - 2010.03.08 18:15:00 - [13] Originally by: Chaos Incarnate There's also a nice mod that squishes complexes together into a big factory box to reduce lag, although they obviously won't look as pretty compared to the ones made with the factory complex constructor (which is AWESOME) I use FDN (freight distribution node) and FCC as well. Anyway, FCC lets me build OOS(i think it does at least.. not sure exactly what anymore, havent played in forever), and FDN eliminates the need for complex construction tubes (for a hellova fee, but its worth it, because it adds a warehouse as well) Anyway, not needing to be in sector to place .. anything is awesome. OHGODS BELOW THIS LINE IS MY SIG !!!! SRSLY! Blane Xero > Lance is at -0.9 sec status with a 1 million bounty. Lance is also amarrian. Thats 3 evil points
Chaos Incarnate Faceless Logistics	Posted - 2010.03.08 19:23:00 - [14] yeah, i tried FDN but it seemed too cheaty to me. Being able to connect and instantly deliver products across several systems renders normal trading ships and logistics completely obsolete _____________________ Horrors! Demons in the deep!
Irida Mershkov Gallente Honour Before Death Nominis Expers	Posted - 2010.03.08 19:32:00 - [15] Thanks for the suggestions peeps, will get to downloading those mods, I've only got a few of them, like the EST also MARs Control, some other ones I've had commended too. My usual tactic is to get some pirate ships in dogfights then work my way up, it's a long process though of getting M4s and M3s to take a Corvette and up. Do you people use the Mobile Carriers to store fighters? Like the Magnetar?
Lance Fighter Amarr	Posted - 2010.03.08 19:32:00 - [16] Edited by: Lance Fighter on 08/03/2010 19:33:17 Originally by: Chaos Incarnate yeah, i tried FDN but it seemed too cheaty to me. Being able to connect and instantly deliver products across several systems renders normal trading ships and logistics completely obsolete Well, thats the thing. For me, it was a replacement for complex tubes - I used it for nothing more. I 'pretended' I had a huge complex in system, where really it was the next system over connected by FDN's eqdock warehouse. I considered placing a FDN node in the Hub, but I never actually got the hub operational.. And to think I sunk over 200 hours into x3tc.. Edit Oh yeah, I remember now why I never finished the hub. I thought it would be cool to start modding. My first project was to be one of the more ambitious projects of the era, turning x3tc into an rts. It almost got past the planning stage. I am afraid to return to the egosoft forums for fear they will demand I finish it OHGODS BELOW THIS LINE IS MY SIG !!!! SRSLY! Blane Xero > Lance is at -0.9 sec status with a 1 million bounty. Lance is also amarrian. Thats 3 evil points
Chaos Incarnate Faceless Logistics	Posted - 2010.03.08 20:06:00 - [17] Originally by: Irida Mershkov Thanks for the suggestions peeps, will get to downloading those mods, I've only got a few of them, like the EST also MARs Control, some other ones I've had commended too. My usual tactic is to get some pirate ships in dogfights then work my way up, it's a long process though of getting M4s and M3s to take a Corvette and up. Do you people use the Mobile Carriers to store fighters? Like the Magnetar? Yes, although it takes some work (again, with mods...lol). there doesn't seem to be much use for TMs in vanilla apart from being an annoying way to drag around your personal fighter + escort. There's some fix for the docking computers from the MARS guy that makes ships instadock inside the 5k range even if you're not controlling them, meaning you can use the TMs to fly around your personal gankfleet without tearing your hair out waiting for them Also, Zephyrus > Magnetar anyways, as most OTAS ships are > Argon standard ships Originally by: Lance Fighter Well, thats the thing. For me, it was a replacement for complex tubes - I used it for nothing more. I 'pretended' I had a huge complex in system, where really it was the next system over connected by FDN's eqdock warehouse. I considered placing a FDN node in the Hub, but I never actually got the hub operational.. And to think I sunk over 200 hours into x3tc.. Ah; yeah, that'd be better. It's whatever that autosells the stuff from the hub warehouses to any station in range that seemed silly to me; i like a challenge, and instant transport across howevermany systems just seemed cheesy. The big factory-brick mod (i can't remember the name) suited me a lot better though for fixing the lag issues and didn't seem as...well, silly. _____________________ Horrors! Demons in the deep!
Lance Fighter Amarr	Posted - 2010.03.08 20:38:00 - [18] Originally by: Chaos Incarnate Ah; yeah, that'd be better. It's whatever that autosells the stuff from the hub warehouses to any station in range that seemed silly to me; i like a challenge, and instant transport across howevermany systems just seemed cheesy. The big factory-brick mod (i can't remember the name) suited me a lot better though for fixing the lag issues and didn't seem as...well, silly. autosell? Gods no. Then again, it was largely used for personal factories only, the stuff I made was personal armaments and goods. I had myself set up in yaki space anyway, with the 'nids as my enemies.. As always it seems for me. OHGODS BELOW THIS LINE IS MY SIG !!!! SRSLY! Blane Xero > Lance is at -0.9 sec status with a 1 million bounty. Lance is also amarrian. Thats 3 evil points
bff Jill	Posted - 2010.03.08 20:48:00 - [19] Edited by: bff Jill on 08/03/2010 20:48:08 i prefer reunion to tc, tc doesn't feel as polished. oh, the game plays best with a trackball i find. not a mouse, not a joystick, a track ball. Try it.
Stratio Minmatar Mirkur Draug'Tyr Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2010.03.09 10:48:00 - [20] Originally by: ReaperOfSly Yeah, I can see why some people think it's rubbish. It just dumps you in the middle of the game universe and expects you to know how to play. Even when I started playing X2 it seemed like they half expected everyone had played X. _____________________ For Tribe and Honour!
Sgt Blade Caldari Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2010.03.09 12:46:00 - [21] the basic jist of the game is as follows (for me anyways) get hauler, trade and make money get more haulers and make them automated traders, get more money get more haulers again and make them automated, make even more money do a bit of the story line to past the time while your traders make you lots of money did I mention make more money? get a station and make more money... create complex stations and make even more money... with your amazing wealth build/buy a fleet of ships and go fight in one of the xenon sectors pro tip: if you plan to fly any of the big ships in x3, id suggest to get a joystick because turning a large ship with your mouse takes FOREVER Hypnotic Pelvic Thrusting Level 5
Stitcher Caldari ForgeTech Industries	Posted - 2010.03.09 13:18:00 - [22] this conversation makes me want to re-install it. - Verin "Stitcher" Hakatain.
Lance Fighter Amarr	Posted - 2010.03.09 17:09:00 - [23] a few points... I started with x2 - back then, they had the 'simulator' option on the main menu (not to mention a cooler looking menu screen with random ships flying across..) Anyway, the simulations taught you a bit.. Also, with tc comes a new control system, so you no longer need infinite desk space to fly around in a big ship. OHGODS BELOW THIS LINE IS MY SIG !!!! SRSLY! Blane Xero > Lance is at -0.9 sec status with a 1 million bounty. Lance is also amarrian. Thats 3 evil points
Gneeznow Minmatar Ship spinners inc	Posted - 2010.03.09 17:35:00 - [24] one of the best additions to TC was the repair laser on your space suit, which means if you're fighting a lot and if you're poor like me you'll be doing this a lot
ReaperOfSly Gallente Heavens Gate Consortium Dead Reckoning Alliance	Posted - 2010.03.09 19:00:00 - [25] Originally by: Gneeznow one of the best additions to TC was the repair laser on your space suit, which means if you're fighting a lot and if you're poor like me you'll be doing this a lot I once repaired an Argon Mammoth from 9% hull with my suit's laser. That took a loooooooooooong time. For stuff like that, you have to weigh down the ctrl key and go afk for a few hours. ____________________
Irida Mershkov Gallente Honour Before Death Nominis Expers	Posted - 2010.03.09 19:06:00 - [26] Originally by: ReaperOfSly Originally by: Gneeznow one of the best additions to TC was the repair laser on your space suit, which means if you're fighting a lot and if you're poor like me you'll be doing this a lot I once repaired an Argon Mammoth from 9% hull with my suit's laser. That took a loooooooooooong time. For stuff like that, you have to weigh down the ctrl key and go afk for a few hours. Now that, is determination. Time to download some mods!
ReaperOfSly Gallente Heavens Gate Consortium Dead Reckoning Alliance	Posted - 2010.03.09 19:12:00 - [27] Edited by: ReaperOfSly on 09/03/2010 19:12:39 Originally by: Irida Mershkov Originally by: ReaperOfSly Originally by: Gneeznow one of the best additions to TC was the repair laser on your space suit, which means if you're fighting a lot and if you're poor like me you'll be doing this a lot I once repaired an Argon Mammoth from 9% hull with my suit's laser. That took a loooooooooooong time. For stuff like that, you have to weigh down the ctrl key and go afk for a few hours. Now that, is determination. Time to download some mods! I also completed The Hub mission without cheating. Before the material requirements were reduced. ____________________
Lance Fighter Amarr	Posted - 2010.03.09 19:33:00 - [28] Originally by: ReaperOfSly Edited by: ReaperOfSly on 09/03/2010 19:12:39 Originally by: Irida Mershkov Originally by: ReaperOfSly Originally by: Gneeznow one of the best additions to TC was the repair laser on your space suit, which means if you're fighting a lot and if you're poor like me you'll be doing this a lot I once repaired an Argon Mammoth from 9% hull with my suit's laser. That took a loooooooooooong time. For stuff like that, you have to weigh down the ctrl key and go afk for a few hours. Now that, is determination. Time to download some mods! I also completed The Hub mission without cheating. Before the material requirements were reduced. You what now? Do not believe. OHGODS BELOW THIS LINE IS MY SIG !!!! SRSLY! Blane Xero > Lance is at -0.9 sec status with a 1 million bounty. Lance is also amarrian. Thats 3 evil points
ReaperOfSly Gallente Heavens Gate Consortium Dead Reckoning Alliance	Posted - 2010.03.09 19:36:00 - [29] Yeah you're right, I was bull****ting. It was after. Still a pain in the arse though. ____________________
Lance Fighter Amarr	Posted - 2010.03.09 20:20:00 - [30] Originally by: ReaperOfSly Yeah you're right, I was bull****ting. It was after. Still a pain in the arse though. Figured its ok, I never actually finished.. well, any of the hub. OHGODS BELOW THIS LINE IS MY SIG !!!! SRSLY! Blane Xero > Lance is at -0.9 sec status with a 1 million bounty. Lance is also amarrian. Thats 3 evil points
Irida Mershkov Gallente Honour Before Death Nominis Expers	Posted - 2010.03.09 21:35:00 - [31] I don't think I ever did any of the hub missions, is it encountered in the storyline? I never found it.
Gneeznow Minmatar Ship spinners inc	Posted - 2010.03.09 21:50:00 - [32] Originally by: Irida Mershkov I don't think I ever did any of the hub missions, is it encountered in the storyline? I never found it. you have to finish the terran plot and the aldrin plot I think, before it pops up, you need to talk to some boron in kingdoms end about 6 hours after you've finished both plots, there's 6 plots in total I think.
Irida Mershkov Gallente Honour Before Death Nominis Expers	Posted - 2010.03.09 21:54:00 - [33] Originally by: Gneeznow Originally by: Irida Mershkov I don't think I ever did any of the hub missions, is it encountered in the storyline? I never found it. you have to finish the terran plot and the aldrin plot I think, before it pops up, you need to talk to some boron in kingdoms end about 6 hours after you've finished both plots, there's 6 plots in total I think. That explains a lot, I told the storylines go to hang on my last playthrough, this time I shall follow through. Thanks.
SabotNoob	Posted - 2010.03.09 21:59:00 - [34] I got so hooked to TC at one point, then it just fizzled. What really drew me in was the level of depth the game had. Another great thing was being able to download and fly custom ships. I totally went for Babylon 5 ships and a few from Star Trek as well. It was incredibly difficult to get those ships working. You needed to have some good skills for that. There were so many additions to the game that the community was able to make, which made it more in depth and fun. The biggest thing that killed it for me was that it wasn't multiplayer. It got boring when you reached the top and conquered Xenon territories endlessly. I guess you just miss the feeling of having other players in game to mess/play with (this is when I investigated EVE). Many other players voiced the same concern. It also didn't have quad core support so some fleet battles were incredibly laggy. Had these two items been addressed in TC (and it was their 4th version of the X series, I think), I would have stuck with it to the present. I might reinstall it some day though. Although TC is the last game in the X series, I hear Egosoft is cooking up something new. Since space sandbox games are their specialty, it should be something similar but a different series. I'd be willing to check it out if it was multiplayer and supported quad cores.
Lance Fighter Amarr	Posted - 2010.03.10 01:18:00 - [35] Originally by: SabotNoob I got so hooked to TC at one point, then it just fizzled... The biggest thing that killed it for me was that it wasn't multiplayer. <snip> It also didn't have quad core support so some fleet battles were incredibly laggy. <snip> Although TC is the last game in the X series, I hear Egosoft is cooking up something new. i agree. For me, the major points of the game was between your first m3 and your first m2.. Everything before was boring, and most after was boring. I got into the whole 'empire building' a bit, but unfortunately the mass micromanagement just made me /suicide in a xenon sector.. And come out victorious. Meh. For the multiplayer, that kinda goes with above. I used many scripts and mods to keep me interested, but all that did was extend the game a bit.. Now, keep in mind ive logged over 150 hours according to steam.. But its just not really enough to keep my interested to the 'end'.. Because, well, there is no end. Sure, completing all the plots? Lame. I eventually decided to write my own end - my grand rts mod I had planned out.. Then i decided it just wasnt worth it. All that work, just so I can finish my game? Nah. I almost expect any 'sandbox' game to eventually give me some way of creating self-sustaining adjuncts of myself to do empire duties, for instance in fallout I wish I could hire generic npc's to patrol for me, or something. (unfortunately, fallout has its own problems.. For instance, combat never happens outside of the cell your in..) Fleet battles are ok for me, even though I am on a laptop. the X engine never had dualcore support either, but with a mod or two to remove a lot of useless fluff (civilian m5s all over the place, for example) and to change up the capship guns a LOT (less spammy PPCs) they were very bearable. And as a final note, TC is at least the 5th.. XT, X-BTF, X2TT, X3R, and X3TC I am fairly sure x2 onward has used the same engine, but I cant comment on x-btf, as I never played it OHGODS BELOW THIS LINE IS MY SIG !!!! SRSLY! Blane Xero > Lance is at -0.9 sec status with a 1 million bounty. Lance is also amarrian. Thats 3 evil points
Sitara Minmatar Solar Flare Trade and Production	Posted - 2010.03.10 08:06:00 - [36] Originally by: ReaperOfSly Originally by: justin666 its rubbish...made the mistake of paying 30 pound for a sh@t game Quoting someone who never made it past figuring out the controls. Haha QFT Excellent game. You need to think to do well tho.
X1994 Gallente	Posted - 2010.03.10 13:21:00 - [37] Originally by: Irida Mershkov Originally by: Gneeznow Originally by: Irida Mershkov I don't think I ever did any of the hub missions, is it encountered in the storyline? I never found it. you have to finish the terran plot and the aldrin plot I think, before it pops up, you need to talk to some boron in kingdoms end about 6 hours after you've finished both plots, there's 6 plots in total I think. That explains a lot, I told the storylines go to hang on my last playthrough, this time I shall follow through. Thanks. I'm pretty sure the requirements for the HUB plot are these: -Very high rank with the Boron (second-highest I think) -High Trade rank If you have this, the next time you enter any central Boron sector (doesn't have to be Kingdom's End) you will be contacted by a ship. Also, there are 7 plots, and soon another one will be added
Irida Mershkov Gallente Honour Before Death Nominis Expers	Posted - 2010.03.10 14:58:00 - [38] Originally by: X1994 Originally by: Irida Mershkov Originally by: Gneeznow Originally by: Irida Mershkov I don't think I ever did any of the hub missions, is it encountered in the storyline? I never found it. you have to finish the terran plot and the aldrin plot I think, before it pops up, you need to talk to some boron in kingdoms end about 6 hours after you've finished both plots, there's 6 plots in total I think. That explains a lot, I told the storylines go to hang on my last playthrough, this time I shall follow through. Thanks. -Very high rank with the Boron (second-highest I think) This is the other reason. I had made it my mission to purge those squids from the galaxy.
SabotNoob	Posted - 2010.03.10 16:02:00 - [39] Originally by: Irida Mershkov Originally by: X1994 -Very high rank with the Boron (second-highest I think) This is the other reason. I had made it my mission to purge those squids from the galaxy. How dare you bring harm to the loveable Boron peoples! You will pay for this treachery...
Irida Mershkov Gallente Honour Before Death Nominis Expers	Posted - 2010.03.10 17:58:00 - [40] Edited by: Irida Mershkov on 10/03/2010 17:58:23 Originally by: SabotNoob Originally by: Irida Mershkov Originally by: X1994 -Very high rank with the Boron (second-highest I think) This is the other reason. I had made it my mission to purge those squids from the galaxy. How dare you bring harm to the loveable Boron peoples! You will pay for this treachery... Split believes you are too cowardly to act. Split reccomends engaging in M3 combat at Heretics End. If you dare. Edit: Engaging an M3 in an M4 head on, not a good idea, this game is a bit of a pain to start over in, think I'll play the storyline a bit to get the funds rolling.
Lance Fighter Amarr	Posted - 2010.03.10 18:46:00 - [41] Originally by: Irida Mershkov Edit: Engaging an M3 in an M4 head on, not a good idea, this game is a bit of a pain to start over in, think I'll play the storyline a bit to get the funds rolling. how else are you supposed to kill stuff? m3s are easy once you get past the rear turret.... Also, most people's problems with the boron stem back to x2.. Specifically, the second plot mission. OHGODS BELOW THIS LINE IS MY SIG !!!! SRSLY! Blane Xero > Lance is at -0.9 sec status with a 1 million bounty. Lance is also amarrian. Thats 3 evil points
Irida Mershkov Gallente Honour Before Death Nominis Expers	Posted - 2010.03.10 18:59:00 - [42] I charged the M3 head on in my M4, straight into each other, we exploded as we collided.
Sral TBear Gatlin penguins Vanguard.	Posted - 2010.03.15 07:35:00 - [43] Found this topic a week ago...got my refund for SH5 and then bought X3 Gold instead... All i can say is that i call it eve of-line, Holy crap and cow. I actualy feel bad that i not have been able to play eve cause this game cought me so bad lmao... I added a few scripts (mods) to deal with the inital problems. Only 1 fleet attacks if you attack a station etc... Then i found something named Responce and defend script.....and i was in a gigantic fleet battle that lastet more than 2 hours..... My puter is amd 64 4000+ 4 GB ram win 7 and i had so many fighters, escorts cap ships that it was like waching a movie. I love you se fighters take of and land on carriers. I love seing all the cap ships shoot.....i love the flak effect.....this game will for abit time take me away from eve..... Alll i can say is that its amazing.... LOVE IT!!
Gneeznow Minmatar Ship spinners inc	Posted - 2010.03.15 10:56:00 - [44] Originally by: Sral TBear Found this topic a week ago...got my refund for SH5 and then bought X3 Gold instead... All i can say is that i call it eve of-line, Holy crap and cow. I actualy feel bad that i not have been able to play eve cause this game cought me so bad lmao... I added a few scripts (mods) to deal with the inital problems. Only 1 fleet attacks if you attack a station etc... Then i found something named Responce and defend script.....and i was in a gigantic fleet battle that lastet more than 2 hours..... My puter is amd 64 4000+ 4 GB ram win 7 and i had so many fighters, escorts cap ships that it was like waching a movie. I love you se fighters take of and land on carriers. I love seing all the cap ships shoot.....i love the flak effect.....this game will for abit time take me away from eve..... Alll i can say is that its amazing.... LOVE IT!! wish my shoddy PC was better so I could play it properly again, my game is several weeks in (I left my PC run on seta overnight a few times) and because of the amount of crap thats gone in, it now grinds to a halt when I load the savegame, if I start a new game it will run at 60 fps but when I load my old savegame it runs at 15 fps regardless of whats on screen, as time goes on in the game I have to tone down the graphics more and more, its probably a CPU bottleneck as I understand it, as my PC is an old socket 939 amd64 with AGP graphics card and pc3200 memory, oh, and then my CD-ROM ate the TC CD, it ate big trenches out of the CD and spat it back out so now I cant even reinstall it to see if my performance issues were due to a gimped install from all the mods I had running.
Irida Mershkov Gallente Capsuleers of Doom	Posted - 2010.03.15 12:32:00 - [45] ^Have you added the mods that remove civilians and stuff?
Gneeznow Minmatar Ship spinners inc	Posted - 2010.03.16 04:27:00 - [46] Originally by: Irida Mershkov ^Have you added the mods that remove civilians and stuff? yeah I had that and a few other performance mods, they probably all conflicted with each other at some point and made things worse though
Lance Fighter Amarr	Posted - 2010.03.16 04:39:00 - [47] Keep in mind that the patches (like 1.3 specifically) fixed a huge game-slowdown issue.. Although id recommend you go on a rampage and kill everything. That seems to fix issues for me.. Actually, i lie. i dont do that often.. but I never had problems with my game being that bloated. Of note, however, it would probably be easier.. and cheaper (RL money wise) to merely script yourself in whatever you would have gotten from leaving your computer on overnight.. not to mention issues that stem from that... ... im a huge no seta while not there guy >.> OHGODS BELOW THIS LINE IS MY SIG !!!! SRSLY! Blane Xero > Lance is at -0.9 sec status with a 1 million bounty. Lance is also amarrian. Thats 3 evil points
Sral TBear Gatlin penguins Vanguard.	Posted - 2010.03.22 07:54:00 - [48] Interesting about some of the comments, but i think my advantage is that i have not been playing vanilla from the beginning. I went to the mod site and looked around just after installing and then i had a a few PM`s with a couple of modders... Im a silent hunter 3 fanatic, and realy enjoy the aspect of crew manegment and stuf like that. I got a cocpit mod, that gives me a bridge on my carrier.. I have CODEA weapon system that gives me full control over the carrier, hangar manegement, logistics, Pilots, recruits all the fun part being bigga boss on bigga space ship I have MARS guncontrol and one ore that gives me gun crew and technician. On top i have modded back grounds, crew chatter enemy invasions, 800 ships and other stuf. With the modt there is just plain battler all over, no sector is safe for invasions. Enemy launch responce fleets, i cant mention it all. About lag, well im actualy not strugling with it. Only running it on a old 4500+ 2 GB ram and a 8800GT and even the big fights are not a problem.....only the laptop struggles... In all its great fun and i nice pause from eve online....Both games are awsome in what they do... TBear
Malcofist Falconpunch	Posted - 2010.03.22 10:28:00 - [49] places one hand on top of Eve's Learning Curve and pulls self up & over Wewt I did it!!! dances Wats this X3? stares at the TerranConflict Learning Cliff NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU T_T; i'm trying this game right now. tad...more...hard?
Sral TBear Gatlin penguins Vanguard.	Posted - 2010.03.22 12:34:00 - [50] Originally by: Malcofist Falconpunch places one hand on top of Eve's Learning Curve and pulls self up & over Wewt I did it!!! dances Wats this X3? stares at the TerranConflict Learning Cliff NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU T_T; i'm trying this game right now. tad...more...hard? yup......know it sounds imposible, but eves learning curve is nothing compared to X3...lmao
Rawr Cristina Caldari Omerta Syndicate	Posted - 2010.03.22 12:39:00 - [51] Edited by: Rawr Cristina on 22/03/2010 12:39:32 Originally by: Sral TBear Originally by: Malcofist Falconpunch places one hand on top of Eve's Learning Curve and pulls self up & over Wewt I did it!!! dances Wats this X3? stares at the TerranConflict Learning Cliff NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU T_T; i'm trying this game right now. tad...more...hard? yup......know it sounds imposible, but eves learning curve is nothing compared to X3...lmao X3 isn't hard really. It just has a horrible UI which makes things complicated for no reason, but anyone should be able to figure it out in a day or two. EVE on the other hand takes months to get to grips with, I've played for years even and there's still some things I haven't done - Malyutka (The Virus) -
SabotNoob	Posted - 2010.03.22 18:45:00 - [52] I'm just eager to see what Egosoft's next title will be. X3 is the last of the X series but I think they'll continue with the space sandbox style game. I just hope to god it's multiplayer. I just can't fathom going back to X3 unless the internet dies or something. As I said before, it got boring fast for me. I do miss the manual aspect of flying though and wish it was in EVE sometimes. OTOH, I can think of dozens of reasons why it'll never be implemented in EVE.
Kijo Rikki Caldari Swarm of Angry Bees	Posted - 2010.03.22 19:06:00 - [53] I bought this game when I stumbled across some awesome cap fights on youtube. Cheated to get said cap ships (downloaded a fairly popular allcheat script) and tried to automate all the turrets and fighters. Unfortunately, once the battle started, I could not, for the life of me, get the commander of my vessel to understand there was more to space combat than FULL RAMMING SPEED MR SULU! So after watching several ships collide I decided I best pilot one myself. That's when I discovered the flight controls for fighters was exactly the same for cap ships.....I dunno about you, but I find it amusing to try to fly a cap ship like a fighter with the handling characteristics of a New Jersey trash barge. I wish they had adapted the flight control they used in Starshatter, that looks like the way a cap ship should be handling move orders. > WHILE SIG<AWESOME DO LOOP there is no escape from my crappy sig.

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